"Smokin' Weed, Drinkin' Beer"

[GSLady17]

(Wonders who will point out where the title of the thread comes from.:lol: )


Ok, this thread was inspired by:


Originally posted by Arkans
AP courses ain't shit. I got placed in them in my second year in highschool. I realized it wasn't for me because I didn't want to spend the extra time doing homework when I could have been smoking pot. The classes were easy though.

- Arkans



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So, who were the kids out there that loved to party in High School?

If you did: How were your grades effected? How often did you do it? Any funny stories?


If you didn't: Why not? Any experiences with kids that did?


We grow up being told in programs like D.A.R.E and classes like Health, that drinking Beer and Smoking Pot, will ruin your life.

It is a rare occasion that I do either now.

However, especially during 10th and 11th grade, I was drinking tons and smoking weed almost every day.

Hell, We would drive around the like on our lunch and smoke a 20 while listening to The first of the Month by the Bone Thugs before we went back for afternoon classes.

There were times I went to school still drunk because I had been drinking until 5 in the morning and had to get up at 7 for school. I was coming home at 4-6 in the morning almost every night.

Did it ruin my chances of getting a diploma? Nope. I know kids that didn't get it though who did everything I did.

My parents either turned their heads, didn't care, or thought I was studying late every night. I'd guess the second one though. As long as my GPA was a 4.0, they never bothered me or gave me a curfew.

Maybe it was easier for me because I don't get hang overs. And when I get drunk, I don't get nutts. I have an easy time acting normal. (I remember many times when I drank more then Darcy yet, was the one talking to her parents normally while she is downstairs wobbling around and dancing on her bed.)

When I smoke, I don't get giggly so that might also help. I smoked pot a few times in the past 3 months though and realized how differently it hits me now. I just kind of stare and get lost in thought and don't know my surroundings. OR, I start panicking and feel like I can't breathe. So yeah--not really my thing anymore unless I was to fall asleep. Maybe it's different because I don't do it every day anymore or something---because before I felt normal--could concentrate even better.

Only thing I can see, is I think my memory is so shitty because of it. I can remember things from when I stopped, Like I can study for a test now and keep the information...But everything that I did during school, in Gemstone, in conversations, even some movies I watched when stoned---Yeah, all gone. It's sad, I regret it.

I'll never trust my kids...I think about that many times when talking or thinking of having my own kids. They can get a 4.0, but who knows what they are doing... They will have rules though and a curfew!

[hectomaner]

jay and silent bob?

[Anebriated]

I think D.A.R.E. is what made me want to try pot....

[hectomaner]

monday - mashed up mondays - 40s of malt liquor at a buds house at 5am every monday, school after

thursday - thirsty thursday - group of us went to a local bar my friends dad owned on lunch break and would get ripped proper then go back to school

friday - kegs and eggs - every friday, 430am, keg of bud and eggs all ways for breakfast, school after


4.5 years of that. no better way to prep for school.

during/after school.... well thats another story...

as far as grades, they werent effected. i maintined a 3.2 gpa throughout highschool. i could have done better, had i wanted to spend more time on school work. i could have graduated after my junior year, also, had i wanted to spend the extra time.

as for AP classes. i think 'AP' classes should be 'normal' classes. it seems they toned stuff down, because students dont want to do so much work, so they give em watered down classes, and let the people who want to do the normal, take the 'AP' class. thats what it seemed from my high school at least

[Ilvane]

I never understood drinking and drugs in school, either in high school or college. I was there to learn, not be someone who wasted the teachers time and caused trouble.

Honestly, what is the point? Is it somehow cool do do something like that?

As far as my GPA, I graduated college with a 3.84. I could have done better, but I got tired at the end of senior year in college from working my way through.

Yep, I took AP classes too. Sometimes I found in high school that the AP classes were easier than the college prep.

I can also usually form complete sentences and have pretty decent grammar.

-A

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Ilvane
I never understood drinking and drugs in school, either in high school or college. I was there to learn, not be someone who wasted the teachers time and caused trouble.I'm pretty sure most teenagers, even the 80-pound high school freshwomen, can have a beer every night and not affect their studies in any way. While drinking or drugs to excess is certainly a very serious problem, to say even the most minimal indulgence in drugs or alcohol is going to waste the teachers' time is a bit much.

[Ilvane]

What exactly are the laws there for? I don't think I ever knew many high schoolers who drank ONE beer. They'd drink a bunch..just because it was cool.

We lost three kids in our high school to "fun" like that.

-A

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by Ilvane
I never understood drinking and drugs in school, either in high school or college. I was there to learn, not be someone who wasted the teachers time and caused trouble.
-A


i for one, did not waste any teachers time, or cause them trouble. with 2 exceptions. one was a math teacher i had for 2 years, but it was more of a friendly harassment back and forth. the other was my 11th grade english teacher. i'm sure i caused her much emotional distress.

[Anebriated]

Umm I dont know where the misconception comes from that kids who drink/smoke do poorly in school. I had a 3.4 through high school and currently am around the same in college and I partook in all of that good stuff.

[Keller]

APs: US History, Euro History, Physics (calc based), Calc BC, Chem, Bio, English (comp), Micro Econ.

High School GPA: 3.6 unadjusted

College GPA: 3.8

Smoked Pot?: Check

Drank Alcohol?: Check

Ate Mushrooms on Occasion?: Check



Partying can really cause problems for kids who are already unmotivated. If you're a type-A personality you will succeed no matter what you do in your free time. If you're a lazy son-of-a-bitch you're going to procrastinate and do poorly. It's really a circular argument to say that drugs cause kids to do poorly.

Kids who fail at school would play video games sober if they didn't have drugs.

Just my opinion.

[Doyle Hargraves]

I never understood drinking and drugs in school, either in high school or college.

Most schools teach things that most people could care less about, will be forgotten over the summer, and wouldn't have made a difference anyway.


Is it somehow cool do do something like that?

I don't know about the cool part, but it sure was a lot of fun then.


I can also usually form complete sentences and have pretty decent grammar.

Me too. Actually, I can do it all the time.

[Ilvane]

I'm sorry, give me a break..You were all drinkers and drug users and had great grades?

How are you doing now?

-A

[Bobmuhthol]

I don't party because the people who do it are such fucking douche bags. If people I respected were drinking and smoking, I'd probably join them. As of now, I don't do either. I'm perfectly content knowing that I have the capacity to do it without having to. I can drink the vodka equivalent of five beers in under an hour and still function normally. When I hear people in high school talk about how they "got wasted last night," I think they're complete idiots. Some girl wrote something in her blog about how she got so drunk and threw up from drinking Smirnoff ICE. The first thing that came to my mind was how you have to suck so much at drinking to get really drunk from a few bottles of a malt beverage. I have no problem with the acts of marijuana and alcohol abuse (I'm not a fan of tobacco smokers and can't approve of it), but it's the people who do it that make it such a bad thing. They're morons.

I don't know what this says in the way of drugs ruining academics, but I'm a lazy fuck when it comes to school and I very rarely smoke or drink, and my current GPA is 3.454 in all honors classes where applicable.

[StrayRogue]

Beer and weed made my school and uni life worth living. Sure the grades suffered a tiny amount but the experiences and the memories make up for it one million fold.

[Anebriated]

How are you doing now?

I have a 3.4 as of last semester and I have worked pretty much 25+ hours a week since sophmore year of high school. That is on top of playing lacrosse and running cross country(Only smoked occasionally in high school due to the running). I had a regular 9-5 job this summer that has me travelling around the country and am still playing club lacrosse(school doesnt have varsity). And I still drink/smoke often.

edit: I snowboard consistantly in the winter and surf in the summer as well, if that counts.

[Edited on 8-9-2005 by Elrodin]

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by Keller
If you're a lazy son-of-a-bitch you're going to procrastinate and do poorly.

Just my opinion.

I'm quite lazy when it comes to school and finished High School with a 3.2 GPA and started college with 6 hours of History credit and 3 hours of English credit. I also smoked pot for the first time at 11, took pillls off and on throughout school, and picked up drinking around 11th grade. So yeah, you can be lazy, procrastinate and do drugs, and still do well in school, including AP classes.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Ilvane
I'm sorry, give me a break..You were all drinkers and drug users and had great grades?

How are you doing now?

-A

I'm doing well. I have no physical or mental illnesses. Albeit, I'm not retarded. I didn't abuse drugs or alchohol.

I did it to have a social life and not be a complete fucking outcast. I like to have fun.

- Arkans

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Ilvane
What exactly are the laws there for?The laws in regards to substance abuse in this country are severely out of whack, and have been for a long time.
We lost three kids in our high school to "fun" like that.Like I said, doing drugs or alcohol to excess is a very serious problem. This doesn't mean that having a beer or smoking a joint is going to turn Jimmy Straight-A's into Johnny Rotten.

[DeV]

Honestly, I didn't really know much about marijuana then and fortunately my curiousity never made me interested enough to try it at the time. I now understand that it was not my cup of tea and I didn't find the kids who did it to be cool in the least. I was an honors student athlete and my priorities were always on winning our next game or trying to ace my next exam. The kids who did those things actually steered me away from trying any of that stuff in school. 3.8 gpa all the way through. Earned myself a full academic scholarship.

I made a conscious decision to try marijuana when I was in my third year of undergrad, and it wasn't because of peer pressure or anything of the sort. I discovered that I liked it. I still maintained a 3.7 throughout my undergrad and now I'm finishing up grad school with Law school right around the corner. It hasn't affected my academics negatively as I first suspected it would. My career goals are still in place and going as strong as ever.

I don't smoke while the semester is in session. My sports consist of me being a weekend warrior (Softball, flag football, soccer) so I do partake during the summer and breaks. I'm not even what you could call a light drinker, perhaps light social drinker would be a better word. I'm very particular about what goes in my mouth, pun intended.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I didn't abuse drugs or alchohol.>>

Using any illegal drug, or any legal drug illegally, is abuse.

[Anebriated]

Id say abuse is excessively using the drug/alcohol. Otherwise its just illegal.

[StrayRogue]

Semanctically maybe. Beyond the meaning of words I don't see the difference between me drinking 1 beer when I was 17 (when it was illegal) and me drinking 1 beer when I was 18 (when it was not). I consider abuse to be an overuse - an addiction to a substance illegal or otherwise that one cannot control and something that effects other aspects of your life. In regards to this "meaning", I didn't abuse either.

[Edited on 9-8-05 by StrayRogue]

[Bobmuhthol]

You're right in saying that it's semantics over a fact of life, but abuse encompasses anything that is as small using the drug as it was not intended. I understand where you're coming from; I just have a thing about people who don't acknowledge what it is they're doing. I don't mind the act of drinking or smoking illegally. Just have the decency to admit that you're abusing the drug.

[StrayRogue]

OK I abused various drugs while I was a minor and it only enhanced my life. It, however, continues to be the bane of my friends at certain times:

[Ilvane]

I wasn't an outcast at school either, for not doing those things..:) hehe.

I just didn't find it necessary. I have a couple drinks here out with my friends nowadays too, and I don't abuse it. What some of you guys were saying for use would be considered abuse by me.

-A

[Doyle Hargraves]

Originally posted by Ilvane
I'm sorry, give me a break..You were all drinkers and drug users and had great grades?

How are you doing now?

-A

If you truly believe that anyone that drank and/or did drugs in school is going to have piss poor grades and flip burgers for the rest of their life, then you're either closed minded or dumb.

I'm doing fine now by the way, but not a billionaire like I'd like to be.

[Edaarin]

Didn't touch alcohol until I graduated from high school (with a 3.8, adjusted for AP's), went in with 31 credits (would have been 37 if I had bothered studied for biology).

First semester of college...3.1, from a combination of skipping lectures where there were more than 200 people and the professors lectured off os slides (read: all my classes except discussion and lab). I would have done the same had I not touched a single drop of alcohol that year, I was just burned out from high school. Woulda found a way to procrastinate.

Second year of college...I started playing Gemstone again. Grades sucked in the fall semester because I was all depressed, confused, and had no direction. Also drank during that time, but again there was no single instance where alcohol detrimentally affected my grades.

Third year of college...took on more responsibility, became an RA, and worked part time while taking a heavy courseload. Also cut going out to one night a weekend.

If I've learned anything in college, it's that there's a very high correlation for me at least between attending class and grades. I'm thoroughly convinced that girls fucked my grades up more than any drug could have (example: me totally fucking up my last final because of issues with a friend).

[Jenisi]

During the school year, I hardly ever drink. I just don't have time. This semester, 5 classes, two jobs and take care of mom and grandpa at home. I won't even have time for me... I don't even drink much over the summer time either really. I guess I've kinda got most of that stuff out of my system.

I did more drugs in highschool than most people and I drank a lot too. My grades wern't the greatest, but I had a blast, my job pays decently now, and I have no regrets. It's all that matters to me, I suppose.

- Arkans

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by hectomaner
jay and silent bob?

You win!

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by Ilvane
I never understood drinking and drugs in school, either in high school or college. I was there to learn, not be someone who wasted the teachers time and caused trouble.

Honestly, what is the point? Is it somehow cool do do something like that?

As far as my GPA, I graduated college with a 3.84. I could have done better, but I got tired at the end of senior year in college from working my way through.

Yep, I took AP classes too. Sometimes I found in high school that the AP classes were easier than the college prep.

I can also usually form complete sentences and have pretty decent grammar.

-A

I didn't waste the teachers time or cause trouble.

Only time I ever got in trouble was in Art Class because there was no brain stimulation for me and I felt bored as hell. Still got an A in it however.

Wasted my time perhaps when not in school, time could have been used for other things I suppose---Like sleeping.

Teachers always loved me though for some reason. I think love anyone though who gets their work done on time and pulls of quality work and gets A on all the tests. It makes the teacher feel like they are doing their job well.

The only teacher I ever talked to was one of my English teachers. So I wasn't kissing their ass.

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by Ilvane
What exactly are the laws there for? I don't think I ever knew many high schoolers who drank ONE beer. They'd drink a bunch..just because it was cool.

We lost three kids in our high school to "fun" like that.

-A


I'm not saying it was a smart thing to do---Don't get me wrong.


That is why I rarely do either now, IF at all.


There was one time last year that I got drunk over spring break and I could not even move. That had never happened to me before..I also did not remember half the night (lucky I always make sure I have a friend there that isn't drinking that I can trust to watch me to make sure I don't do anything stupid) I never had blacked out before either like that. It scared me and I stopped drinking.

I had to be carrier to the car and then ended up puking (half in the car, and half out) When Bob decided it would be funny to swerve into the gas station when he stopped to get coffee.

No, he was not drinking. Yes, he got what he deserved :lol:

I also always had a friend who was not drinking, take my keys before I drank.


For my 16th Birthday party, we actually blocked in everyone's car. If you were not spending the night, you were not aloud to be at the party. I am very against drinking and driving.

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by Ilvane
I'm sorry, give me a break..You were all drinkers and drug users and had great grades?

How are you doing now?

-A



Have two classes to get my AA, then I will be going to nursing school. (Took summer off though)




Something scary---Someone who graduated with me...His dad smoked Pot with us all the time..He's a doctor and has his own practice AND is the most liked in town. Treats a lot of kids, delivers babies, and also treats adults.

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by Elrodin

How are you doing now?

I have a 3.4 as of last semester and I have worked pretty much 25+ hours a week since sophmore year of high school. That is on top of playing lacrosse and running cross country(Only smoked occasionally in high school due to the running). I had a regular 9-5 job this summer that has me travelling around the country and am still playing club lacrosse(school doesnt have varsity). And I still drink/smoke often.

edit: I snowboard consistantly in the winter and surf in the summer as well, if that counts.

[Edited on 8-9-2005 by Elrodin]


Yep, I had a job all through highschool too as a waitress. I also volinteered at a health and rehab center where my mom works.

I did Basket ball as well. Wish I had done soccer too, did it when younger but got too wrapped up in b-ball to conentrate on anything else.

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by Arkans
I did it to have a social life and not be a complete fucking outcast. I like to have fun.

- Arkans



I did it for the same reason. But now that I look back, it was not the right reason. I never had any "true" friends. I had friends to party with. Are they going to care about me now that Highschool is over with? Probably not. Sure, I might go to lunch with a few, or the movies...but that is about it.

I look at the kids who were in band and stuff, and they were always so close.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Arkans
I did more drugs in highschool than most people and I drank a lot too. My grades wern't the greatest, but I had a blast, my job pays decently now, and I have no regrets. It's all that matters to me, I suppose.

- Arkans

Yep, exactly the same here. Thankfully I didn't turn out to be a shim.

Edited to add that shim, for all you wonderfully smart and quick people = She/He. A shim. A tranny. A fucking man woman.

[Edited on 9-8-05 by StrayRogue]

[Valthissa]

Sounds like a testable hypothesis.

I wonder if anyone ever thought to study whether drug and alchohol use has any correlation with academic achievment?

C/Valth

[Warriorbird]

I drank and did some dubious things with dubious substances. I ended up with a weighted 4.7 in high school from the sheer number of AP courses and college courses I took early.

If anything, chasing after the opposite sex (which I didn't do very much of in high school) in college had more of an effect on my grades/utilization of education there. I ended up with only a 3.5.

Now that I've been happily married for a while I'm applying myself once again to attempt to go to law school.

In essence, anything can be problematic if you let it take over your life. Smoking up and drinking does not necessarily mean you will do poorly. Discovering that I could get somewhere with girls and messed up relationships had the most detriment on my undergraduate life.

P.S.

There were a ton of ridiculously dim people in AP classes. They usually didn't manage 5s on their tests however.

[Edited on 8-9-2005 by Warriorbird]

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by Edaarin
Didn't touch alcohol until I graduated from high school (with a 3.8, adjusted for AP's), went in with 31 credits (would have been 37 if I had bothered studied for biology).

First semester of college...3.1, from a combination of skipping lectures where there were more than 200 people and the professors lectured off os slides (read: all my classes except discussion and lab). I would have done the same had I not touched a single drop of alcohol that year, I was just burned out from high school. Woulda found a way to procrastinate.

Second year of college...I started playing Gemstone again. Grades sucked in the fall semester because I was all depressed, confused, and had no direction. Also drank during that time, but again there was no single instance where alcohol detrimentally affected my grades.

Third year of college...took on more responsibility, became an RA, and worked part time while taking a heavy courseload. Also cut going out to one night a weekend.

If I've learned anything in college, it's that there's a very high correlation for me at least between attending class and grades. I'm thoroughly convinced that girls fucked my grades up more than any drug could have (example: me totally fucking up my last final because of issues with a friend).

I always skipped wednesday when I took college classes because we would meet in the lecture hall and get lectured for 2 hours. And still got an A.

That's one thing I loved about college...participation and attendance was not factored into the grade for about 90% of the classes.

[Warriorbird]

That varies.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by GSLady17

That's one thing I loved about college...participation and attendance was not factored into the grade for about 90% of the classes.

Apparently neither were spelling or grammar.

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by Valthissa
Sounds like a testable hypothesis.

I wonder if anyone ever thought to study whether drug and alchohol use has any correlation with academic achievment?

C/Valth


I think they just said you'd fail, drop out, be a loser etc to make kids not do it.

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by StrayRogue

Originally posted by GSLady17

That's one thing I loved about college...participation and attendance was not factored into the grade for about 90% of the classes.

Apparently neither were spelling or grammar.


It did, but I checked my papers over many times and spent time on them. I also would type them out (which was required) and word would pick up most of the errors.

I do a million things at once while posting on the forums. Like now, I have 5 gemstone windows open (five accounts), singing to gems and items, reading about scripts, telling my boyfriend what I want a script to do as he writes it, and chatting.

I don't want to have to open even another window (word) and type it out there.

I also don't want to have to sit here and read my post over twice while trying to listen/talk to my boyfriend at the same time. I'd get distracted and would have to start all over again atleast 20 times!

If people can understand it, I don't see why it would bother them so much. Unless, they just want to insult me.

There are a few around that point out ever time I miss spell something. But the rest either ignore it, or do not notice.

They probably would rather reply to someone's post instead of replying to mine only to insult me or try to make me look dumb.

Never had any "true" friends? I mean.. seriously, I need to ask.. "What the fuck is wrong with you?" then. Just because you party a lot and do a lot of drugs and drink pleanty, that doesn't all of a sudden outcast you from having "true" friends. I still talk to people and even hang out with those back from my highschool haydays.

Regardless, just because band geeks sit around and scratch each other's ass that doesn't mean they were closer. They still got their own friends.. The difference between them and me? No one pissed in my tuba.

- Arkans

[Warriorbird]

Yeah. The person who I got up to the most questionably legal stuff with was the best man at my wedding. He's an awesome guy. He's definitely made a whole lot more money than I have. He lives in Alaska in the summer while he's working now and owns a half interest in a fishing boat up there. He works only about five months a year... it's crazy dangerous work but I don't think he'd be happy any other way. He lives in Seattle in the off season and does some fishing there too.

I certainly would trust him a lot more than 95% of the "proper" people I've been friends with.

[Edited on 8-9-2005 by Warriorbird]

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by Arkans
Never had any "true" friends? I mean.. seriously, I need to ask.. "What the fuck is wrong with you?" then. Just because you party a lot and do a lot of drugs and drink pleanty, that doesn't all of a sudden outcast you from having "true" friends. I still talk to people and even hang out with those back from my highschool haydays.

Regardless, just because band geeks sit around and scratch each other's ass that doesn't mean they were closer. They still got their own friends.. The difference between them and me? No one pissed in my tuba.

- Arkans


I'm not saying you didn't. But usually all the girls just talked crap about each other behind their backs.

The guys fought over girls and stuff, but they always forgave and forgot fast. Maybe because they bonded a lot in sports. Perhaps that's part of the difference.

:lol:

Okay, seriously, you must see things in some weird fantasy or stereotypical way.. Because y'know? Guys and girls are like that no matter what social circle they were in. There is no Utopia. Holy "grass in greener" Batman!

- ARkans

[Doyle Hargraves]

I'm not saying you didn't. But usually all the girls just talked crap about each other behind their backs.

The guys fought over girls and stuff, but they always forgave and forgot fast. Maybe because they bonded a lot in sports. Perhaps that's part of the difference.

No, it's just one of the many differences between most men and women. Most guys don't give a shit about dumb things. Most women make it a point to raise hell over nothing, and hate 99% of other women that aren't fat and ugly.

When was the last time you heard a guy say something like "Oh my God, that asshole is wearing the same shirt as me! I hate him so much now, what a dick!"


Like now, I have 5 gemstone windows open (five accounts), singing to gems and items, reading about scripts, telling my boyfriend what I want a script to do as he writes it, and chatting.

And that, my friends, is far worse than what drugs and alcohol can do to someone.

Just look at Warclaidhm. I doubt he's done any illegal drugs or drank anything.

[SpunGirl]

Heh. With regards to DARE, I think it's a cute program and it's a nice way to introduce kids to some specific concepts. And I never drank in high school. But when I did in college, I wasn't thinking, "OMG my DARE officer said I shouldn't do this!" And when I chose not to drink, it wasn't because DARE said I shouldn't. I don't think it's that effective with regards to the choices kids make.

-K

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
Heh. With regards to DARE, I think it's a cute program and it's a nice way to introduce kids to some specific concepts. And I never drank in high school. But when I did in college, I wasn't thinking, "OMG my DARE officer said I shouldn't do this!" And when I chose not to drink, it wasn't because DARE said I shouldn't. I don't think it's that effective with regards to the choices kids make.

-K


Nope, lots of things factor into it. But it all comes down to the persons choices. I know kids with parents who have always taught them drugs are bad etc. That do drugs.

How you are raised is another factor though.

[SpunGirl]

LOL. My DARE officer was a personal family friend. I've known him since I was five.

I think in high school, it was partly because I was afraid that my parents would kill me. I also didn't get away with a lot, I knew they'd figure it out. When I lived in the dorms at college, there was less chance of discovery.

Another factor was who my father is, and the knowledge that if I did something stupid everyone would hear about it. I really didn't want to embarass him the way some of his colleagues' children embarassed them.

-K

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by Ilvane
I'm sorry, give me a break..You were all drinkers and drug users and had great grades?

Smartest person I ever met was a big drinker, smoked/dealt pot through engineering school, and his backpack was always full of pills. Eventually he laid off the pot and stuck mostly with alcohol, but even so went on to finish his BS, own a few planes, a house, and a beach house, all while working on his MS in Telemetry.

I have another friend that dealt pot all through high school and college and just finished his BS with around $15,000 in cash he made off dealing.

Success depends heavily on responsibility. If you're a responsible person, you can use drugs, or sell drugs, and still do fine. If you're irresponsible, then you're going to have issues with drugs, and most likely, with school as well, even without the drugs. I've never met anyone that went from a straight A student to an F student because of drugs. I've met poor students that dropped out because of drugs and A students that slipped to B/C students because of them.


How are you doing now?

-A
I'm okay. How are you? Thanks for asking, thanks for asking.

[hectomaner]

my best friends dad is a now retired sheriff, and he was THE d.a.r.e. offficer. he looked like sgt. slauter. we used to (and still do) go into his basement and hijack d.a.r.e. stickers and clothes

[Ilvane]

I'm sorry, but no one is going to convince me that drugs and alcohol don't take a toll on your life at some point. Whether it be grades, or your job, or your relationships with your loved ones, or your friends..it does eventually cause problems if you abuse it.

And Sarah, I was one of those band/chorus 'geeks', and we were as close as we seemed.:) These people are still my friends to this day, and we had enough fun to not have to drink or do drugs.

-A

[GSLady17]

Hey, I never called them geeks! My brother is a drummer...he IS a geek but that is because well, he's my younger brother!:D

In middle school, he was in thier band. (not really that big of a thing, more like something to prepare them for highschool band.)

His band teacher kept him for half of his 6th grade year. Then he went to the high school band teacher and said hey, you have to check this kid out.

My brother was the first kid EVER to be in the highschool band when, well he wasn't even in Highschool. (Middle school is 6-8 and he was only in 6th!)

At first I was like oh my God no, please don't let my friends find out! Then people I didn't even know started coming up to me and saying, "Wow your brother is awesome!" His sense of humor quickly made him popular with the band memeber and they didn't feel like he was a threat.

For three years now...Instead of going to school at 8:30, he wakes up at 5 and is at the highschool by 6. Now that's dedication! He has NEVER missed a practice, he even got to go to Hawii and compete. Plus, I have no doubt that with his band career and his grades, he will get a KICK ASS scholarship!

Ok, sorry, had to brag about him...I'm very proud of him.

(He also plays GS actually hehe)

[Warriorbird]

"if you abuse it."

[GSLady17]

I thought about Ivane's post. I have to agree with her.

What about those who do drugs that have kids? Every time they buy a drug or alcohal, that's taking money away from the family. Wouldn't it be better spent on a vacation with your family to spend more quality time with them?

Or prehaps it would serve a better purpose in a college fund.

And what happens when they see Mommy/Daddy doing drugs?

I smoked pot...Would I say, "ok kids, I did it, feel free!" Heck no!

If you don't have family, and have the money to spend, what about an emergancy fund? Suppose your car broke down. You could also put it towards better use paying off bills or buying a house.

[Alfster]

Originally posted by GSLady17
So, who were the kids out there that loved to party in High School?

If you did: How were your grades effected? How often did you do it? Any funny stories?


The first few times I drank I was in 8th grade. One of my friends had an older brother that had a fake I.D. and he could get us liquor whenever we wanted it and whenever someone's parents were out of town we'd all lie about where we were staying and end up over there drinking.

It was that summer after 8th grade that I found marijuana. At this point, my friends sibling had gone away to college and weed was 10 times easier to find than alcohol during that summer and up until about 10th grade. I'd steal liquor from my parents about once a month until 10th grade.

From there, I partied every Friday and Saturday night until I graduated highschool. I didn't smoke much weed until I got into college because I didn't want to get arrested like some of my friends were.

We were stupid, we'd get drunk and drive home. My curfew was 2 am which gave me plenty of time to drink and spew my guts out, then drive home.

I didn't get caught drinking by the police until I was in college, and I only got one underage fine out of all the times I got caught. I was an alcoholic freshmen year and that year I had the best grades I ever got in college. It may have been because most of the classes were easy as hell and were all prerequisites, or it may have been that I cared enough to goto class then.

Sophmore year of college I started smoking pot again, and haven't stopped yet. Booze and weed have gotten me into some of the strangest situations I could ever imagine and that's half the fun sometimes.

I've stayed away from C for the most part, I've seen that fuck way to many people's lives up to really get into it. I've tried most kinds of pills imagineable too.

So yeah, I graduated highschool with honors and I'm still working on my college degree. I will definatly get my degree because well, without it I'll be stuck working my shitty job that I have right now.

*edidted to add that I started smoking cigarettes in 8th grade and I'm still going strong with that.

[Edited on 8-9-2005 by Alfster]

[Asha]

I was the worst during high school.
Smoked heroin 10 mins before my maths exam.

During college I made up for all my mistakes though. I had a great time with just the right amount of drink, smoking pot and working hard.
lots of fun and lots of good grades.
But school was a waste of time for me. I was an idiot.

[Leetahkin]

I never did any of that growing up. Maybe it was because my dad was a cop.

I never gave into peer pressure. I still feel the pressure to go get drunk (never have) and to try weed. But I still refrain.

Call me boring, if you will. But my reasons to not try far outweigh the reasons to try. I will never be able to relate to people who do/have done these things.

[Warriorbird]

Eh. I didn't have any pressure. I think in a lot of ways that's a myth... or at least never happened in any circles I ran with. The whole "war on drugs" is laughable.

I guess it's like this. Seeing four alcoholic grandparents convinced me that I never wanted to be like that... but hearing that LSD and marijuana weren't physically addictive in the D.A.R.E program made me go, "Ohhh, so those are the good drugs." The reason I don't use either these days is due to the effect they have on genes "crossing over", but even that is minimal.

[Edited on 8-9-2005 by Warriorbird]

Yeah, when half the school hates you and you get made of of every single day, "Fuck band geek, go eat shit"... "Hahaha hey Bandie.. Try blowing on THIS flute!!!" Doesn't surprise me why the might have been close.

Anyway, there are people that use and arn't affected. Not believing it? Eh, I mean, you're entitled to that, but it doesn't make it any less wrong.

- Arkans

[GSLady17]

Wow, you'r school was very cruel compared to mine.

It very well might have been, considering the above quotes were actual things yelled at other kids. We did other stuff that was far worse (I remember once this hippie's house got nailed with paintballs, eggs, and the like), but that's how it was. Honestly, someone like Ilvane would never really even been talked too and maybe even hassled at my school. Still was a very interesting place though.

- Arkans

[GSLady17]

Perhaps it is interesting if you enjoy that sort of environment. A person I graduated with, not only got a Band Scholarship but also a Football Scholarship. Although some were ignored, there was never anything like you describe.

If a person enjoys playing an instrument, I think band is great. It is awesome that they can be so dedicated to something and an awesome way to win Scholarships.

Doesn't make them any less of an egg head.

- Arkans

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Doyle Hargraves
When was the last time you heard a guy say something like "Oh my God, that asshole is wearing the same shirt as me! I hate him so much now, what a dick!"The last time I talked to Arkans.
Originally posted by Ilvane
I'm sorry, but no one is going to convince me that drugs and alcohol don't take a toll on your life at some point. Whether it be grades, or your job, or your relationships with your loved ones, or your friends..it does eventually cause problems if you abuse it.It depends on what you mean by "abuse". If you mean that any illegal use of alcohol or drugs is going to hamper someone's life, you're clearly incorrect, unless you consider every posted example here to be a lie. If you mean using alcohol or drugs to excess, then that's what you should have said in your first post.
Originally posted by GSLady17
What about those who do drugs that have kids? Every time they buy a drug or alcohal, that's taking money away from the family. Wouldn't it be better spent on a vacation with your family to spend more quality time with them?Leisure is inherently personal. What you think is a waste is just right for someone else.

[AnticorRifling]

I was going to do drugs but instead I just got addicted to text based games got 5+ accounts, lied about who I was on the internet and then proceed to lie about what I'd done in school. Much better than pot believe you me.

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by GSLady17
What about those who do drugs that have kids? Every time they buy a drug or alcohal, that's taking money away from the family. Wouldn't it be better spent on a vacation with your family to spend more quality time with them?[/quote]Leisure is inherently personal. What you think is a waste is just right for someone else. [/quote]


True, I just could not justify spending money on drugs if I had kids to support. I would rather use it to do something fun with them. Even if it means saving up a days worth of pay to take the day off and spend time with them.

[GSLady17]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
I was going to do drugs but instead I just got addicted to text based games got 5+ accounts, lied about who I was on the internet and then proceed to lie about what I'd done in school. Much better than pot believe you me.


I don't have kids. I also pay for the accounts by selling silvers.

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by GSLady17

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
I was going to do drugs but instead I just got addicted to text based games got 5+ accounts, lied about who I was on the internet and then proceed to lie about what I'd done in school. Much better than pot believe you me.


I don't have kids. I also pay for the accounts by selling silvers.

On a scale of 1 to 10 you need a helmet and should ride a bus that's short in length. Where did I say you had kids or how you paid for your accounts??

Holy shit what's that out there and why is it so big? That, that's the real world. Don't go there it's scary.

[Alfster]

Originally posted by Nobody Cares

Call me boring, if you will. But my reasons to not try far outweigh the reasons to try. I will never be able to relate to people who do/have done these things.

I have a lot of friends that have never done any sort of drug nor have ever drank enough to get drunk.

I've had no problems relating to them, I just don't talk about drugs around them.

I just love how some people here really would by into the movie "Reefer Madness" it makes me laugh so hard.

- Arkans

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by GSLady17

I look at the kids who were in band and stuff, and they were always so close.

and we out drank/drugged everyone else too...

:lol: Band kids would smoke like one joint between 10 people and then crack open a six back and share between another 15.. They'd get "wasted" and claim to say, "Yeah, we did crazy things too!!"

- Arkans

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by Arkans
:lol: Band kids would smoke like one joint between 10 people and then crack open a six back and share between another 15.. They'd get "wasted" and claim to say, "Yeah, we did crazy things too!!"

- Arkans

I will kill you.

You wish, bandie!

- Arkans

[Janarth]

I started drinking in high school, freshman year. Ya know, three of us would get someone to buy us a bottle of vodka, lock ourselves in our room (boarding school) and finish it, then go into Newport. I started smoking butts a year later, and ended poking smot a little as well. By senior year, I was smoking a pack a week and drinking two to three nights a week, often on school nights and always on the weekend (I had classes saturday...). I graduated high school ( a private boarding school, not an easy public school) with a B+ average that did not weight the six APs I took (and got fives). So in high school, it didn't affect me at all.

Then I went to college, where freshman year I had 2.0 (c average), started buying an eighth a week, and was drinking...four to seven nights a week. It was not uncommon for me to be drunk every night of the week. It got worse sophmore year, and my gpa got slightly better. Halfway through senior year I stopped buying pot, and cut down on my drinking. I got a 3.1 senior spring.

I work in insurance, its a boozing culture. I drink two to three nights a week, but when I drink, I drink hard. My buddy, he's alcoholic now. His tolerance spiked last year of college, now he has none and he routinely blacks out. My tolerance is still high, and I'm usually the caretaker at the end of the night. I still have a great time, everyone in my office thinks I have a super liver (everyone from college thinks it amazing I still have a liver). I am very successful at my job.

The point of all this? Everything in moderation, and stay away from the riskier health stuff. I want to quit smoking butts, need to quit like I did pot, its just a more...present temptation I guess, its all over. Drinking is fun, and you can go on some serious benders, but I need to schedule time off or I'm a mess. Thats my spiel, go big a coupla nights, rest the others, take care of your body, and don't smoke anything if ya can (though ripping butts or passing a j is okay once in a while, but don't buy!). New York Times recently did a story...the most successful business men average 2-3 drinks a day. After that amount of drinks, the profile says performance drops dramatically.

[Janarth]

PS
Arkans, I'll kill you in a case race. My record is a 30 rack of bud in 7 hours: started at 9am finished my rack by 4, ate a bit and hydrated, went out after.

Most I had was about 20 Coronas in a span of 2 1/2 to 3 hours. Blacked the fuck out. Was a fun night from what people told me. I woke up with the worst hang over in my life.

- Arkans

[hectomaner]

you all are a bunch of fucking n00bs when it comes to alcohol/drug abuse. it saddens me :(

well really it doesnt.

Wait.. I remember once I did 12 shots in about 15 minutes... I tried to out drink a Russian...... girl.

- Arkans

[Janarth]

Lets hear it Hectomaner;) I've done ten shots in ten minutes, power hours are a joke, case race is no problem, and I can put back a pint by putting it in the palm of my hand not spill a drop. Lemme hear your claim to fame!

[AnticorRifling]

I would say I'm impressed but what kind of nancy brags about drinking beer?

[Warriorbird]

Moonshine, Diesel, Everclear.

[Doyle Hargraves]

Originally posted by Ilvane
I'm sorry, but no one is going to convince me that drugs and alcohol don't take a toll on your life at some point. Whether it be grades, or your job, or your relationships with your loved ones, or your friends..it does eventually cause problems if you abuse it.

And Sarah, I was one of those band/chorus 'geeks', and we were as close as we seemed.:) These people are still my friends to this day, and we had enough fun to not have to drink or do drugs.

-A

Quoted to make the part that we're trying to explain to you but you still don't seem to understand, even though you just said it yourself, in REALLY BIG LETTERS.

Drinking a case of beer everyday is abuse.
Drinking until you can't take 2 steps without falling over at a party on the weekend isn't abuse.

Being so hooked on coke that you steal from people and go straight to the pawnshop to get your next fix is abuse.
Snorting a line now and then isn't.

As for marijuana -- if your life is really that bad off, it's because you were destined to be a dumb fuck anyway, with our without marijuana, and "pot abuse" is just the scapegoat.

I can't help but laugh at the ridiculousness of those "Just tell them <insert tragic event> was because you were out getting stoned. They'll understand." anti-drug commercials. Ironically, the only people those ads might work on are the really ignorant people.

This doesn't just apply to drugs. Look at all the horror stories (mostly from EQ) that are the result of MMORPG "abuse".

Too much of anything can be a bad thing. Even "good" things, like vitamins.

Anyway the point is, just because someone isn't squeaky clean like you claim to be doesn't automatically mean they're going to ruin their life, or that it makes you a candidate for the Donna Reed Award.

It's all about moderation and self control. That applies to everything, not just drugs.

NOTE: The above examples are not using Bob's definition of abuse (which is technically correct, though that would also mean that fucking for pleasure instead of for having children is abuse).

Amsterdam has one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Ever wonder why?

[Edited on 8-9-2005 by Doyle Hargraves]