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08-05-2005, 06:50 PM
Since you have decided to ignore my requests for clarification by avoiding them I will put it in neon lights so you will see it and not have an excuse.

It is obvious that you have already decided to deal with the issue, and continue to lurk the boards

Last active: 8-5-2005 at 14:46
Last Post 8-5-2005 at 13:20 / Subject: "Hrmm Alas, yet again it "appears" I was not wrong."


So I ask here why is my thread not returned. It violated no TOS nor had it moved to a point of being off topic.
A response is respectfully requested.
Either here or in response to the U2U i sent you 15minuets ago that you currently are ignoring.

Ravenstorm
08-05-2005, 06:51 PM
Wow. I'm having TOJ flashbacks.

Raven

Jolena
08-05-2005, 06:57 PM
Jesus Dave, ever heard of U2U? Must you clutter the forums with these threads when it is ONE mod you have a question for? Damn, TOJ flashbacks indeed.

Hulkein
08-05-2005, 06:57 PM
Eh, this is a warranted question I think.

08-05-2005, 06:58 PM
So is this the players corner Offical responce? Silence?

Last active: 8-5-2005 at 14:52

Harmnone?

Hulkein
08-05-2005, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Jolena
Jesus Dave, ever heard of U2U?


Originally posted by DaveEither here or in response to the U2U i sent you 15minuets ago that you currently are ignoring.

gj

Parkbandit
08-05-2005, 06:58 PM
Someone must have re-rolled Alliance. It's the only answer.

Jolena
08-05-2005, 06:58 PM
I'm not debating if it's warranted or not. I'm debating the need for a thread to be made. It's ridiculous and serious attention whoring attempt.

Jolena
08-05-2005, 06:59 PM
Fifteen minutes and he makes a thread? Come on Hulkein. You're an intelligent person. Fifteen minutes?! Damn.

08-05-2005, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Jolena
Jesus Dave, ever heard of U2U? Must you clutter the forums with these threads when it is ONE mod you have a question for? Damn, TOJ flashbacks indeed.

Yes jolena I have used U2U. Knowing the speed at which Harmnone normaly replies to my U2U's i am left to assume she has alerts on.

«no subject» HarmNone 8-5-2005 at 14:30 Read

The u2u sent was read 30 minutes ago.

Stunseed
08-05-2005, 07:00 PM
We all know what assuming does. Last time I knew, HN did things by majority in mind, perhaps she is doing just that?

Ilvane
08-05-2005, 07:01 PM
She has no reason to tell YOU anything about X's business. He knows what he has done. Don't be foolish and play into his little game.

Seriously Dave, if you trust me on anything, trust me on this. Your theory is WAY off.

-A

08-05-2005, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Jolena
Fifteen minutes and he makes a thread? Come on Hulkein. You're an intelligent person. Fifteen minutes?! Damn.

Having experience with Harmnone in the past she is very punctual in her responses.

I am left to only wonder why this time she is not.

Jolena
08-05-2005, 07:01 PM
And? You have so little patience in life that you think making a thread for the entire forum to read is necessary and will garner you the response you are looking for? Seriously Dave. Grow the hell up and use some of that discipline you learned in military world. WAIT A WHILE FOR HER TO RESPOND AS I'M SURE SHE'S GOT MORE TO DEAL WITH THEN JUST DAVE. WOW WHAT A CONCEPT I KNOW.

08-05-2005, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by Ilvane
She has no reason to tell YOU anything about X's business. He knows what he has done. Don't be foolish and play into his little game.

Seriously Dave, if you trust me on anything, trust me on this. Your theory is WAY off.

-A

This is about the restoration of my thread. It has nothing to do with X at the moment.

Hulkein
08-05-2005, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Jolena
Fifteen minutes and he makes a thread? Come on Hulkein. You're an intelligent person. Fifteen minutes?! Damn.

I agree with you, but I would think if you read his whole post (which I don't blame you for not doing, if that's the case) you would've said '15 minutes isn't long enough for anyone to respond,' or something along those lines.

I agree, I would've waited longer, but since I'm eager to see why the thread was pulled, I'll say it's a warranted question. ;)

08-05-2005, 07:03 PM
Calm down, Jolena. Dave has a very valid concern that should be addressed. Whether Harmnone decides to do it publically or not is up to her. Whether Dave decides to share is up to him, but it is still a valid concern. He should give more than 15 minutes time though.

- Arkans

Jolena
08-05-2005, 07:05 PM
I probably should have worded it better, while i did read the entire post that he made where he mentioned the U2U, I also thought in my mind "Okay 15 minutes, U2U her again and ask why she hasn't responded. Perhaps there's a glitch in the system and she hasnt read it, any number of things". Or, and I know this is a long stretch for Dave to understand, think that the world for HN doesn't revolve around Dave and sometimes (although she's normally very punctual) things happen and she has a lot to look over all at once that takes priority over Dave asking why his thread was moved.

[Edited on 8-5-2005 by Jolena]

08-05-2005, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Stunseed
We all know what assuming does. Last time I knew, HN did things by majority in mind, perhaps she is doing just that?

That is very true Stunseed, but I received this response to an issue after the thread was read by Harmnone.

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Perhaps you have been mostly reactionary, Dave. I haven't been keeping records. However, I do want to be sure you understand that your random attacks on staff will be considered baiting.

That little gaffe of yours (when you mistakenly attributed a comment made by Jolena to "mods") recently was uncalled for, as have been several of your anti-staff verbal missiles. You don't react well when verbal missiles are fired your way, Dave. I'll appreciate it, and reciprocate, if you'll stop firing them at chance every time you think you see a chance.

Does staff make errors? Of course, they do. Do you? Do I? Damn straight we do. I haven't seen any perfect people on these boards, and I surely don't claim to be the Second Coming myself. Let's just cut it out with the digs. I'll do what I can to cut down on the crap if you'll make an effort, as well.
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You forget that staff should be held to higher standards, for they are the people selected because they can do the job. When they are as bad if not worse than the normal posting base (tsa'ah and more recently skirmisher) something should be done, but rarely is. When i watch staff go on a crusade against members in attempts to bait them to the point where they do something to get banned, and nothing is done to stop it, it annoys me.
I was also quick to point out the error in my comment. I will however continue to point out where the staff are acting in such a manner, for it lacks the professionals that is required to do a job. You forger you have a few hundred people who post here, although unpaid the job is treated as just that, a job. I have never let anyone who worked for me use the excuse, they are human, when they fuck up big nor constantly.
The TOJ issue was a perfect example where half the staff including the "high ranking" baited him again and again and again (granted he didnt really need it he dug his own holes, being a moron does that) That type of action is uncalled for and the which hunt that staff members go on because of a personal dislike should never take place.

they are selected them because you hold them to a higher standard. they should continue to be held them to that standard after they become staff.
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You need to take that whine (with or without cheese) to Kranar, Dave. Your feelings on the matter and his feelings on the matter differ.







It refers to a discussion we had yesterday, but the matter and topic at hand is quite fitting.
I was in fact right that X was banned. And by that for "perhaps" no good reasons except because I said so.

[Edited on 8-5-2005 by Dave]

08-05-2005, 07:06 PM
It seems my answer will have to wait as Harmnone has decided to log off the Players Corner without giving a responce.

Jolena
08-05-2005, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Arkans
Calm down, Jolena. Dave has a very valid concern that should be addressed. Whether Harmnone decides to do it publically or not is up to her. Whether Dave decides to share is up to him, but it is still a valid concern. He should give more than 15 minutes time though.


- Arkans

I'll refer you to my other post further up in this thread. I'm not debating his question, I know it's a valid one. What I'm debating is why he feels the need to start yet another fucking thread about this when it's a question left for HN alone AND it's been a very short amount of time. You are also an intelligent person, Arkans. You know as well as most of us, that starting a thread to goad a mod or in this case an Admin into responding to something that's had 30 minutes to deal with, is just ridiculous.

Again, it's not the validity of his question I debate, but his need to make a thread to goad her into a response after 15 minutes. :shrug:

Nieninque
08-05-2005, 07:08 PM
It is a warranted question but it could have been put in the other half a dozen threads he made, he really didnt need to start another.

Wah wah you havent answered me yet. Me me me me me me me me

Fucking dickhead

Shut the fuck up dave you are a boring little retard who is far too full of his own self importance.

08-05-2005, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Jolena
I probably should have worded it better, while i did read the entire post that he made where he mentioned the U2U, I also thought in my mind "Okay 15 minutes, U2U her again and ask why she hasn't responded. Perhaps there's a glitch in the system and she hasnt read it, any number of things". Or, and I know this is a long stretch for Dave to understand, think that the world for HN doesn't revolve around HN and sometimes (although she's normally very punctual) things happen and she has a lot to look over all at once that takes priority over Dave asking why his thread was moved.

I took that into mind, but she continued to be active on the boards and selected not to respond to my U2U after reading it.

08-05-2005, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Nieninque
It is a warranted question but it could have been put in the other half a dozen threads he made, he really didnt need to start another.

Wah wah you havent answered me yet. Me me me me me me me me

Fucking dickhead

Shut the fuck up dave you are a boring little retard who is far too full of his own self importance.

True to our word arnt we, truce...

08-05-2005, 07:09 PM
Well, both threads potentially could have different topics. The last thread was to discuss why his thread was missing and this thread is just calling bullshit on HN. So, while the other thread was actually productive, this thread is another "bash the mods" thread that we've seen and heard so many times before. Two different animals. One worthy of discussion the other.. well.. I'll leave that alone.

- Arkans

Ravenstorm
08-05-2005, 07:09 PM
And just like with TOJ, Dave... Just because you demand immediate responses to your little tantrums doesn't mean you're going to get them. Frankly, I'd just ignore you even if I were a mod.

You have the same option TOJ chose not to take... Vote with your feet if you don't like how things are run. Please do.

Raven

Nieninque
08-05-2005, 07:09 PM
I took that into mind, but she continued to be active on the boards and selected not to respond to my U2U after reading it.

SO FUCKING WHAT?

YOU ARE NOT THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH GROW THE FUCK UP

[Edited on 5-8-05 by Nieninque]

Jolena
08-05-2005, 07:10 PM
I'm curious to know what post she referred to made by Jolena ??

Nieninque
08-05-2005, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Dave

Originally posted by Nieninque
It is a warranted question but it could have been put in the other half a dozen threads he made, he really didnt need to start another.

Wah wah you havent answered me yet. Me me me me me me me me

Fucking dickhead

Shut the fuck up dave you are a boring little retard who is far too full of his own self importance.

True to our word arnt we, truce...

Sorry but I tried so hard to ignore your bullshit.
You make me want to scream and for weeks I havent said a word...now you are following in Toj's footsteps, I cant help it. You are a prick. Fuck off

08-05-2005, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Jolena

Originally posted by Arkans
Calm down, Jolena. Dave has a very valid concern that should be addressed. Whether Harmnone decides to do it publically or not is up to her. Whether Dave decides to share is up to him, but it is still a valid concern. He should give more than 15 minutes time though.


- Arkans

I'll refer you to my other post further up in this thread. I'm not debating his question, I know it's a valid one. What I'm debating is why he feels the need to start yet another fucking thread about this when it's a question left for HN alone AND it's been a very short amount of time. You are also an intelligent person, Arkans. You know as well as most of us, that starting a thread to goad a mod or in this case an Admin into responding to something that's had 30 minutes to deal with, is just ridiculous.

Again, it's not the validity of his question I debate, but his need to make a thread to goad her into a response after 15 minutes. :shrug:

If you read my posts again you will notice that the situation was dealt with well over an hour and a half ago. But no reasoning was given.

I have to go help a friend out, but I eagerly await a reply when I return.

StrayRogue
08-05-2005, 07:12 PM
It must be the army training. Or some weird attention craving desire that he and TOJ suffer from.

08-05-2005, 07:14 PM
Woah.. I'm in the Army :(

- Arkans

Edaarin
08-05-2005, 07:14 PM
Feels like WWII all over again.

TOJ, Xcalibur, and now Dave = the Axis.

The staff = Allies.

Normandy? The Player's Corner.

Welcome to D-Day. Who will end up winning?

(A) Harmnone
(B) Harmnone
(C) Harmnone
(D) Harmnone

StrayRogue
08-05-2005, 07:14 PM
It must be something else then.

Nieninque
08-05-2005, 07:15 PM
Too much sex with rabid animals

08-05-2005, 07:16 PM
:lol: Okay, that was kinda funny

- Arkans

Ravenstorm
08-05-2005, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Edaarin
Feels like WWII all over again.

TOJ, Xcalibur, and now Dave = the Axis.

The staff = Allies.

Normandy? The Player's Corner.

Welcome to D-Day. Who will end up winning?

(A) Harmnone
(B) Harmnone
(C) Harmnone
(D) Harmnone

Well, duh. That's a stupid question. If it's D-Day, the answer is obviously: (D) Harmnone.

Raven

Terminator X
08-05-2005, 07:31 PM
I have a rifle, her name is Sue! :spaz:

Oh and BTW, Edaarin is quite the joker. End transmission.

Tisket
08-05-2005, 07:31 PM
Personally I hope HN takes even longer to respond. It's fun watching Dave squirm.

Back
08-05-2005, 07:33 PM
Dave, the secret to it all is...

A little Bailey’s goes a long way.

A round for everyone on me.

Leetahkin
08-05-2005, 07:44 PM
Let's see... take my avatar...

....take my name....

...insert how you wish....

It's Friday! Goodness this weekend was long in coming.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
08-05-2005, 07:56 PM
Maybe Harmnone doesn't take to answering pissants on their schedule, but on her own?

:)

HarmNone
08-05-2005, 08:00 PM
Very astute of you, SHM! :D

Actually, Dave, I have other things on my plate right now that far outweigh you in terms of importance. Were I to make a list, you would fall somewhere near the bottom of a veeery looong list.

Brattt8525
08-05-2005, 08:05 PM
I think the whole making a thread, and pretty much a demanding attitude is what is taking them so long Dave.

There are always 2 ways say something one gets you spoken to the other only makes people avoid you.

Edaarin
08-05-2005, 08:09 PM
Quite frankly, if pissing off moderators was grounds enough for banning, YOU would have been gone a long time ago Dave.

As would Tabor, Teeoncy, and quite a few other posters that don't contribute much else than stirring the shit kettle every now and then with inane, retarded bullshit.

HarmNone
08-05-2005, 08:14 PM
Edaarin is correct. :D

Leetahkin
08-05-2005, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Edaarin
Quite frankly, if pissing off moderators was grounds enough for banning, YOU would have been gone a long time ago Dave.

As would Tabor, Teeoncy, and quite a few other posters that don't contribute much else than stirring the shit kettle every now and then with inane, retarded bullshit.

You don't consider your "coming out" thread retarted bullshit?

Suppa Hobbit Mage
08-05-2005, 08:16 PM
Harmnone... I have one question for you....

[Edited on 8-5-2005 by HarmNone]

Edaarin
08-05-2005, 08:23 PM
1 out of a few years of posting on this incarnation of the boards isn't bad. :rolleyes:

EDIT: I'd add a more substantive explanation (not an excuse), but I've already done that in the aforementioned thread. Since you ignored it there, there's probably not much of a point posting it here.

[Edited on 8-5-2005 by Edaarin]

Kainen
08-05-2005, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Harmall
Blah blah blah

P.s. you fucking facist arrogant waste of humanity.

Look who the fuck is talking? For god's sake.. when did these boards become YOUR domain and when were YOU the one who gets to decide ANYTHING. It always amazes me when people start demanding that they be answered on a forum where mods have absolute control and can basically do anything they please. Personally all these "The Mods are unfair bastards and they should do what I think is right" threads are bullshit and I hope they continue to put the smack down on assholes who think they have a "right" to get an answer, or whine about how unfair the mods are, or bash the mods untill a bunch of us are sick of hearing about it. What about that last paragraph that you agree to when you register for PC don't you understand? I know I keep bringing that up.. but truthfully I feel that since they seem to be ignoring that all important piece of the TOS.. someone has to point it out. This whole trend of "waaahh the mods are beating me up and not being fair" is enough to make me sick. Life isn't fair. Get over it already.

HarmNone
08-05-2005, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Harmnone... I have one question for you....

[Edited on 8-5-2005 by HarmNone]

Heh. Sweetie, there are some things that are worth a fight and others that are not. Same thing goes for people. :smilegrin:

DeV
08-05-2005, 08:49 PM
Here here Kainen. :cheers: You said it woman.

Back
08-05-2005, 08:51 PM
Last I checked this was a free message board. Of course there have been options over time to contribute monetarily, but never mandatory. Yadda the F yadda. This is old hat. I don’t even know why I am posting this again.

Rainy Day
08-06-2005, 11:19 AM
I don't get the mod bashing here at all. I read a lot of boards all over the net. I've read this one off and on since the first guy had it...Caels or something like that I think?

Over the last couple years the mods here have done a bang up job. This is a privately owned forum with volatile posters. Most such forums would have blown up long before now with that combo. That it hasn't is a testament to the quality of moderation here. Yeah people make mistakes. So fucking what? The rants I see about how the boards are handle are so god damn ridiculous and paranoid I don't know whether to scream or laugh.

RD

p.s. Since I've been a reader for years and only just registered recently, I'm about as unbiased an opinion you can get on this issue.

HarmNone
08-06-2005, 11:25 AM
Heh. Thanks, Rainy Day. I'm sure all the staff appreciate your comments. It's really good for all of us to hear the good things once in awhile.

Several of you have been very supportive over the years, to the staff and to other posters. We all have our good days and our bad days but, for the most part, this is a really great group of people. If it weren't for the posters there would be no boards, so your opinions are valuable to us, even if they aren't always what we might like to hear. We do the best we can. It's nice to know that's recognized. :)

Gan
08-06-2005, 12:26 PM
As a participant in some of the more 'violent' topics I have had some posts pulled, and even while I've disliked that they were, I've respected the reasoning given and the objectivity displayed by those moderating my activities.

All in all the mods do a bang up job here. And give HN a few extra shots of butterscotch schnapps to go with her baileys for all the things she has to do while filling Kranar's shoes.

HarmNone
08-06-2005, 12:29 PM
Heh. Nevermind, Ganalon. I'm going to take it out of Kranar's hide as soon as he gets back. Even if I have to fly to Canada! :lol:

HarmNone
08-06-2005, 12:31 PM
It's also important to realize, on a serious note, that Kranar has been putting up with this stuff for a lot longer than I have. I've watched him deal with much the same many times in the past. I have a lot of admiration for the guy. :)

Showal
08-06-2005, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Harmnone... I have one question for you....

[Edited on 8-5-2005 by HarmNone]

Probably one the best pictures I've seen posted here.

Were I to be paying a monthly subscription fee to post here, I'd probably expect some sort of satisfaction in regards to banning ... but I wouldn't be upset if I didn't get any. The mods have spoken to X, I am positive of it, about why he is banned. If you're so curious, ask him. Starting a thread is not a great way to get the results.

But seeing this thread and some of the ones you've created over the past few days, I'm not surprised anymore that someone, namely you, called me a brown-noser for giving praise to the mods in my thread. They do a good job here. If they weren't here or they didn't care, we'd probably still have thread after thread of SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM.

Moral of the story, you're a big boy now. You have to learn to deal with life when it doesn't go your way.

CrystalTears
08-06-2005, 12:52 PM
I'm sure he has asked X. And X probably said something like, "I was banned and no one told me!". He was told. He's always been told of his demerits and violations. Just because you deny them, doesn't mean that they go away or don't exist.

X also lies and tries to suck up to people to get them to feel sorry for him. I don't buy into it. He's all nice and sweet in IMs and tries to be a friend, but in reality he's finding something juicy to throw back at you later. He's not nice by any means.

Showal
08-06-2005, 12:57 PM
I will miss seeing hohohohoho and strayrogue making fun of him.

Skirmisher
08-06-2005, 01:05 PM
oHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
Le haw.

There...that should hold you for a bit.

Artha
08-06-2005, 01:18 PM
I think you mean LA haw, you silly english speaking woman brain.

Skirmisher
08-06-2005, 01:57 PM
:(