Magic Hindrance

[Lookkin]

I think its been posted up before, but can someone tell me the formula for producing the lowest magical hindrance for a particular circle. I know the hindrance for doubles is 4% (wizard circle), and in order to lose the movement hindrance I have to train in armor 8 times. There used to be a formula calculating the number of trains required to retain the lowest magical hindrance. (i.e. 4% for doubles – wizard circle).

Thanks.

[Latrinsorm]

You need (20 * hindrance) - 10 in bonus of Armor Training. 4% * 20 = 80 - 10 = 70 = 10 ranks (50) + 5 ranks (20) = 15 ranks.

[Lookkin]

Thats the one.
Thanks bunches!!

[Lookkin]

Last question - its a sliding scale right on the ranks per skill points?

First 10 trains gets you 5 points per rank, next 10 trains get you 4 points per rank..

[Latrinsorm]

Correctamundo.

[Lookkin]

OK - sooo... does have anyone have some smokey grey leathers they wanna unload?

[AnticorRifling]

00 for robes
04 for fulls
15 for doubles
27 for LBP
35 for Cuirb

I haven't worn heavier than that but I think it's 70 for Reinforced and 130 for brig.

[Lookkin]

After doin the calcs - I was going to shoot for LBP. I know there is only one additional hindrance between LBP and Cuir, but I just can't squeeze out 8 addition ranks to get there.

[AnticorRifling]

Yeah from LBP to cuirb you're looking at over 100 ptps to get rigid on your arms. I used to wear cuirb and if I find some uber arm greaves I might go back as I'm sitting on 163 ptps right now that I'm not using.

[mgoddess]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
You need (20 * hindrance) - 10 in bonus of Armor Training. 4% * 20 = 80 - 10 = 70 = 10 ranks (50) + 5 ranks (20) = 15 ranks.

Pulling this back up, for quick verification. These 15 ranks are in addition to the 8 ranks needed to train off the normal hindrance RT of doubles, right? So a wiz would need 23 ranks of armor use to cover base RT hindrance and spell hindrance?

[AnticorRifling]

No, 15 ranks covers it all. See my list above. That's total ranks you'd need.

[mgoddess]

Ahhhh, right. Ok, so my next question is, what if the ranks needed to train off magical hindrance is less the that needed to train off base RT? (Say, for doubles...one needs 8 ranks to train off the RT, but for a sorc to train off the 2% hindrance, they only need 6 ranks. Would 8 ranks be all they'd need?)

[Latrinsorm]

You need 8 ranks to train off all the penalties for doubles for a sorcerer. To be specific, the RT only requires 6 ranks, whereas the maneuver penalties require 8 ranks to be minimized.

[mgoddess]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
You need 8 ranks to train off all the penalties for doubles for a sorcerer. To be specific, the RT only requires 6 ranks, whereas the maneuver penalties require 8 ranks to be minimized.

Right. Excellent. Thanks!

(And sorry I brought up a sorcerer in the wizard category...I just figured I'd use the thread that was already made instead of making a new one. :) )

[Lilfunaho]

I just came back from like a 7 year break from playing and was wondering if this armor training will completely remove spell hinderances from armor or just give wizzies the lowest hinderance for the armor?

[MangledKitty]

You can't remove hinderance, only train it to the minimum. The percentages listed are the minimum, and that's what's used in the 20*hinderance-10 formula.

[Lilfunaho]

Ok thanks much!