Changing my ways

[LaVaca]

I realize I'm going to try my best to change my ways around. I realize I've said this before, but let me clear up a few things.

Don't start cussing me out for no reason. I realize I cant controll what you do but try and have *some* politeness.

Try and take me seriously.

I really am a nice person, when you get to know me. Even if you dont know me I normally am. I'll try to stop whining. I won't flat out harass or call anyone an idiot from now on, rather express my opinion in a more fashionable manner.

Yeah I realize I've done some bad things. But we all do at some point. Back when I was Vorthais I scammed people, but ever since I rolled up Warclaidhm I never scammed anyone intentionally. On the Ganyru/Njorn incident, Njorn gave me some nice items for doing simple tasks. I didn't think twice, I just thought he was being nice. And he was being nice at the time. I sold some of them, and got to keep the money. Then a few days later, he instant messaged me and told me he was locked out. I didnt understand why. He told me about the scam. I then turned myself in.

I didn't get any warnings, no lockouts, nothing. The only reason is because I turned myself in and I didnt know it was a scam in the first place when I sold the items.

Anyway, I hope this will give every one a new perspective about me, if not, perhaps you'll learn someday that I really am not as bad as some think :thumbsup:

--Player of Warclaidhm.

(Let me fix my sig)

/ Its already fixed. Interesting.

[Edited on 9-30-2003 by LaVaca]

[LaVaca]

If anyone would help me out by giving me suggestions, its appreciated.

[Halfsilver]

That's wonderful if you want to try and make a better name for yourself.

I'll help you start by recommending that you shorten your signature. Before some PC snot comes in here and flames you into oblivion for it.

-grays/d

[Edited on 9-30-2003 by Halfsilver]

[Jolena]

Okay.. I know I should be prepared to be flamed up one side and down the other for saying this.. but I am a firm believer in supporting someone who is trying to change. Now most of you will probably get on here and talk all kinds of shit about Warclaidhm.. but honestly, I never have liked him.. however.. he IS trying to change IMHO. I have personally witnessed him making a strong effort (even under great stress from others pointlessly bashing him for their own amusement) to change. He has been very polite and maintained his cool in situations where he was being publicly humiliated because of his reputation in the past. There are those out there who say that he deserves this and will continue to always treat him that way and never change their opinion of him. That's fine...obviously everyone has the right to an opinion. But in mine, I just want to say to Warclaidhm that I see and acknowledge your efforts and as long as you continue with them and are trying.. I am all for it and will never treat you poorly. I don't have to like how you acted in the past.. but I have respect for your efforts. Unfortunately however, your past will probably always follow you around. Good luck.

[CrystalTears]

I applaud your efforts to want to change for the better. Just understand that this has all been said before. For some, this is just a boy crying wolf episode. It will take time for people to take this action seriously.

I truly hope that this time things will change in your favor. Just realize it will be a slow process, so hang in there and good luck. :)

[Grandsome]

VORTHAIS!!!!! I KNEW YOU WERE WARCLAIDHM, BUT NO ONE WOULD LISTEN TO ME!!! I AM SO KEWL!! Really I told people that I thought you were Vorthais, but everyone said noo nooo, you're wrong. EAT THIS EVERYONE!!! ALL OF YOU!!!

If you don't remeber, I showed you Rivers Rest while Vorthais was a youngin'....I remember you were, for some reason, trying to fill your backpack up with pearls, to which I took a grand interest (in helping myself to) and told you all about th Rest. Memorieeeees.

Grandsome

PS. Vorthais caught me on my 2nd pull, and I was banished from Rivers Rest....for about 30 seconds.

[Hips]

Are you still mad at me for posting about your scooter? :lol:

Seriously though, dude. You would be fine if you didn't bring OOC/OOG stuff like that IG. And if you didn't randomly flip out at my friends at other people's weddings.

Good luck trying to get people to see your new side. :thumbsup:

[DCSL]

Hrm... so YOU'RE the butthole that made Vorthais feel welcome in River's Rest. I remember that, as Devochka.... massively irritating. Although not as much as that halfling that kept drooling and hugging on her, even after she killed him twice. Bleh.

As for Vorthais/Warclaidhm's efforts to change himself and his image... eh. Good luck.

[Chadj]

Well, Im backing Warclaidhm up on this one :)

[Grandsome]

Originally posted by DCSL
Hrm... so YOU'RE the butthole that made Vorthais feel welcome in River's Rest. I remember that, as Devochka.... massively irritating. Although not as much as that halfling that kept drooling and hugging on her, even after she killed him twice. Bleh.

As for Vorthais/Warclaidhm's efforts to change himself and his image... eh. Good luck.

That halfling's name was Bouncy, I'll never forget the MASSIVE HEADACHES I got just from trying to read what he said.

Bouncy says "Whasssaaaaaayername?!"
Bouncy says "Whasssaaaaaayername?!"

Bouncy flings himself against you and giggles madly.
Bounch flings himself against you and giggles madly.

He would say full sentences just like that. Just think how exhausted the player was.

Mason, the butthole ( x )

[Halfsilver]

Sintik was right, Chadj. lol.

[Soulpieced]

Instead of posting how you're going to change. Just change. It's just like people who complain about their weight in real life. If you're overweight or don't like your figure. Shut your face and go do something about it, rather than dwelling on the fact that you may not like the way you look. Words are passive, actions speak volumes.

[Chadj]

Wasnt talking to me, im afraid :-P

[Grandsome]

Originally posted by Chadj
Wasnt talking to me, im afraid :-P

Heh, was he talking to Zarvon? I think I remember him IMing that to me awhile ago. Funny cause it's true.

Mason, Posting Spree!

[Adhara]

It will take time to change people's opinion of you. My only advice is to not falter from your path. It might be tempting to think "I'm being a good guy and they still hate me, I might as well go back to my old self," but resist. You will be glad in the end.

[GSTamral]

talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words

[Chadj]

Yup, it was Zarvon.. That night was quite entertaining. Sintik was on a roll.

[Edaarin]

I like Soulpieced's analogy. Write on, Peon Slayer.

[LaVaca]

Ok shortened my sig. Thanks everyone for the support!

[CrystalTears]

Shorter, shorter!

[Soulpieced]

By shorter they mean 1 or 2 quotes, not 6.

[Izalude]

Like I said before Warclaidhm, if you really want to change, I'll help you in any way I can.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
I'll help you start by recommending that you shorten your signature. Before some PC snot comes in here and flames you into oblivion for it.

Umm, you are a PC snot.

Guilt by association.

Warclaidhm, while your intentions seem good, your follow through has been less than spectacular.

Actions and words must meet if anyone is going to take you seriously. You have a reputation as a scammer, a warn freak, and even an OOC idiot. While you may eventually overcome the reputations of warn freak and idiot by simply refraining from acting in those manners, you will probably never lose the reputation for being a scammer.

Trust is a hard won commodity and I'm sorry to say it happens to be a commodity you will probably never gain simply because of how dishonest you have been.

Soulpieced summed it up best, just do it.

[Warriorbird]

Yes folks, we've heard this before. Honestly, Warclaidhm? At this point, I'd reccommend a different game.

[HarmNone]

Good luck to you, hon. It is never easy to make big changes like this, and it always takes time to see the benefit of your efforts. Nevertheless, your desire to improve and your efforts to do so deserve notice. Not all will even try. :)

HarmNone wishes you well

[Betheny]

Good luck, Warclaidhm. I've never known your old, bad personality, or your new, better one. But I do know that every time I had a change of heart and wanted to change how I acted or how people percieved me in Gemstone, I deleted the character with the stygma or bad reputation and started a new one.

And don't whine about levels. I"ve deleted two 30+ characters and several 20+ characters.

It's the only way to go, man.

[GS4Gurl]

Originally posted by Maimara
Good luck, Warclaidhm. I've never known your old, bad personality, or your new, better one. But I do know that every time I had a change of heart and wanted to change how I acted or how people percieved me in Gemstone, I deleted the character with the stygma or bad reputation and started a new one.

And don't whine about levels. I"ve deleted two 30+ characters and several 20+ characters.

It's the only way to go, man.

She's right make a new character and don't tell people who you were. If you start over fresh. You will have to let go of the past that includes Warclaidhm and his friends, items, and everything accociated with him. Completely anew.

You can do it.

[Rowi]

Rowi never had problems with Warclaidhm, I actually hated seeing people kick his ass all the time got boring to watch.

Warclaidhm never did me wrong so if he changes he changes if he doesnt who cares.

[longshot]

You're changing?

That's why you denied that LaVaca was Warclaidhm, right?

Riiiiight...

The only interaction I've ever had with Warclaidhm was when he thought over the net

Warclaidhm: "I want a samari sword"

I informed him that it was "Samurai".

Do any of you honestly believe that re-rolling is going to mask the fact that this person is either

1) 12
2) Has the mental capacity of a 12 year old.

Do you?

I don't.

I'm not trying to be mean.

Reality is harsh though.

Play checkers at yahoo or something...

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by LaVaca
This is my last post. I really don't belong here. Talking about people behind their backs is wrong, like some of you have done to me. There is no excuse for it. Coming to a message board outside of a game where people have fun just to harass someone, is wrong. I am not reading these forums anymore. I come to realize that this is wrong, and I am better than wrong.



This was his latest quote prior to the this thread. Gee.. I guess this won't be your last post.

My point is: Your claims hold so little water with most folks. You claim to have changed now at least 10 times. Do I NEED to bring up Vorthais?

Let the people who don't know you fall for your latest claim.. I for one know it's only BS. It's been said before... if you want to change, DO IT already. That is the only way things will change for you here.

[More Lean]

i liek warclaidhm

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Delete and reinstall

Getting to lvl 35 or whatever is easy enough.

I don't believe you can escape the stigma that comes with Warclaidhm, even if you really want to.

[Betheny]

He could escape it if he started over. I mean, really started over. But somehow, I think he's one of those kind of sick people that likes to be treated how he's being treated. Why else would he come here in a guise and try to gain acceptance, but basically out himself? It all makes sense now, see? :lol:

[Edited on 9-30-2003 by Maimara]

[More Lean]

Originally posted by Maimara
He could escape it if he started over. I mean, really started over. But somehow, I think he's one of those kind of sick people that likes to be treated how he's being treated. Why else would he come here in a guise and try to gain acceptance, but basically out himself? It all makes sense now, see? :lol:

[Edited on 9-30-2003 by Maimara]

i dont like you you dont know warclaidhm dont act liek you do

[Drew2]

For some reason I'm not surprised More Lean and Warclaidhm are friends.

[More Lean]

Originally posted by Tayre
For some reason I'm not surprised More Lean and Warclaidhm are friends.

we are friends with you to

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

LOL. The moronic defending the idiotic.

[Betheny]

Originally posted by More Lean
i dont like you you dont know warclaidhm dont act liek you do

Edited to remove the picture.

He's been punished sufficiently.

[Edited on 9-30-2003 by Maimara]

[More Lean]

that was not funy i peed on myslef and strted drooling i hte you for that

[Hips]

I'm not reading this topic again until it goes to another page, that thing just made my eyes water.

GAH. :(

[Betheny]

I removed it.

[More Lean]

Originally posted by Maimara
I removed it.

i changed my pants

[Meos]

here's a suggestion, stop trying to rip people off too.

[Weedmage Princess]

Good Luck, Warclaidhm. I've never met your character, but from what I've read on these boards, (about you, and your own posts) I didn't think too highly of you either. But people change, it happens all the time...so good luck in your endeavors.

I will say this...if some time passes and I'm reading the same ol' stuff from and about you...then you come back with the same story...I'm going to join the mocking masses and laugh at you, too.

[HappyGuyJr]

FACT: 99.99% of all People do not simply "change", they do so ONLY when they have no other choice or recourse.

FACT: Those people who are eventually forced to change, WILL revert to their old habits/ways as soon as the conditions that FORCED the change in the first place are relaxed.

FACT: Having a sig that is some 20 lines (including blank ones) long is a perfect example of someone doing something... ANYTHING for attention. People may not even be reading the Sig, but they sure a hell notice its size.

OPINION: You have no intention of changing, and the people who join the "I applaud your intentions... blah blah blah" camp make me simply giddy with the need to scream "ARE YOU FRIGGIN NUTS?!?!?"

[GS4Gurl]

I totally agree HappyGuy Jr.

I have no idea what his sig says. I just know its annoying. See he's still being annoying and claiming hes "changing".

Whatever.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by More Lean
that was not funy i peed on myslef and strted drooling i hte you for that

anyone else notice the scrambled words and missing "A"s? I think this was the most amusing post of this thread.

[Edaarin]

I knew it. I refrained from commenting for as long as I could. I even told you that I'd stop as long as you didn't give me any reason to. But I'll say it now. You're 100%, completely full of shit.

I didn't have any problem with you killing Augie, even if it was a wuss way of going about it waiting for her to be sitting picking a box and using Feras. But. What did you do after that? You ran like a little bitch and hid at the inn. Fine. Still in character.

Then what did you do. You came to OUR wayside table with a fucking Game Host. Then you left, and starting your sob story about how Augie's out to get you. I'm not a big fan of how the GH handled the situation, I think that it should have handled IC. Killing someone is grounds for CvC, and you couldn't handle the consequences. Well, so be it. Do your warn interaction like the little bitch you are, you've once again managed to piss off an ungodly number of people.

And as a side note, Hasek is also a moron. Parkbandit will back me up on this.

[JustMe]

Did I miss something? I know he killed Augie because he said she was stealing from him... but what else happened?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Don't forget that he first WARNED Augie, THEN killed her like a little puss bitch.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Edaarin
Then what did you do. You came to OUR wayside table with a fucking Game Host. Then you left, and starting your sob story about how Augie's out to get you. I'm not a big fan of how the GH handled the situation, I think that it should have handled IC. Killing someone is grounds for CvC, and you couldn't handle the consequences. Well, so be it. Do your warn interaction like the little bitch you are, you've once again managed to piss off an ungodly number of people.


Unless I missed something, and tho it pains me dearly, if Augie got caught stealing by our resident scooter pilot and was then killed by him then at that point the altercation ended.

A thief when discovered is the one initiating CvC and must deal with the consequences. If that includes a strike that kills them then oh well. This of course is assuming the altercation takes place out of the jurisdiction of the constable.

If I am in your opinion in error in how either the system works or how the events in question went down, please do clarify that for me.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

He warned her, THEN killed her. I could give a shit he killed her (even if he didn't see dick -- thats arguable). Just something his punk ass does. He'll get his soon I'm sure.

* Pussyasshatnodick just bit the dust

[Xcalibur]

Warned is evil

There should be a message when you warn that IF YOU ACTUALLY warn you are hereby FORCED to ignore TOTALY the person, otherwise you'll get a warning

cut 99% of useless warn

[Skirmisher]

Well thats a horse of a different color and far more in line with the lil scooter rider we know.

[Edaarin]

Yeah, whoops, forgot to mention that part. Heh.

[HarmNone]

Heh. If he Warned Interaction, then killed her, he broke the Warn himself. That does, in fact, suck! Is that what happened?

HarmNone is now curious

[Xcalibur]

He told me that SHE warned him first, then he was imiting her voice (i don't understand that part)

she harass and stole

he killed her

that what he saids. maybe it's a bit different though

[HarmNone]

I am not up on the messaging associated with Warn. Does everyone see that an individual is being Warned, or does only the Warned individual see the messaging?
I also understand that there are several kinds of Warn. I am wondering which kind was allegedly used here and how someone would know, for sure, if someone else was Warned.

HarmNone is trying to sort out this Warn stuff

[Xcalibur]

better idea
Think they should put the warn that WHENEVER you warn someone, if you try to act something to the person you warned, you're bubbled/thumped/stopped
à la when your curse.
People would take the warn seriously and not use as a form of "i am right you are wrong now shut up!"

[Tsa`ah]

You killed Augie. Good job.

You did it classic Wardoofhm style, very bad.

Take your lumps kid, otherwise you will never get respect.

[HarmNone]

Well, if only the Warned person sees the Warn messaging, then we have only that person's word that she was warned. Again, we are presented with a situation that we cannot, in all fairness, interpret in such a way as to know we are correct.

HarmNone figures this one is a wash

[JustMe]

The only way he may ever change is to go through puberty.

[Artha]

Isn't he like, 18 or something?

[JustMe]

13 or 14

[Artha]

Well, he says he's 13 or 14. But, from what I've heard, he said that with his first character too.

[Xcalibur]

From my understanding of his post, on aim, on here (hey, i can analyse things too!) i'd say warclaidhm is 16 and he's a shy person

anyone surprised?

[LaVaca]

Ok it went like this. Sorry as before I forgot to tell you that I also warned her. I forgot how this happened, but I might've warned her first, then she warned me, or it could've been the other way around.

I realize I did do something wrong. Considering she warned me I interacted but she also interacted.

On the gamehost thing. I was interestered in a laen shield from Kailya. I went to her table and she happened to be at the table which ardwen and the gang were at. Realizing my mistake, I immediatly left the area. I'm sorry if it appeared different.

I did do a mistake. She warned me, I warned her, or something like that, I forgot who warned who first its been awhile. But we both violated our warnings, she insulted/harassed me, stole from me, and I Killed her for stealing.

Thats how it really went. And I am telling the whole story here.

[FireSonata]

First of all, before I start rambling, I've known Warclaidhm since he was Vorthais. I believe that HE believes that he isn't really doing anything wrong anymore (post Vorthais). I believe that he truly has tried to change. Anyone who took half a minute to ever get to know Vorthais before he became Warclaidhm would have been able to see the huge transition. For awhile I wasn't even entirely certain that they were the same person though some similarities did prevail.

I think it's sad that Warclaidhm's player is being pressured to change. Sure, his methods may not be the best in everyone's opinion. He may not even make sense to half of us all the time. But some people seem to want to force away his right to simply be who he is.

Warclaidhm, not everyone's going to like you. Gemstone is full of a lot of very small minded and bitter people. No matter what sort of metamorphasis you undergo there will always be someone who dislikes you for the way you handle PvP or CvC, there will always be someone who thinks you're an idiot. There will be people who will hate you simply because of the type of shoes your character has on.

Some change is probably welcome, which is simple player morality such as in the case of scamming... but I don't think that you need to conform to how a bunch of people you've never met, and never will meet, think you should be. Be yourself and don't give people the satisfaction of beating you down with their negative comments. Simply ignoring people goes a long way and if they still try to bother you then you've got a clear and simple case of GM trackable harrassment.

You've come a long way from Vorthais even if other people don't realize it. Even though my character doesn't always like yours 80% of the time, I for one, as a player, am proud of you. And if you feel you need to change in the future I believe you can if you want it enough.

Don't do it because people are treating you badly. Don't do it because you want everyone to like you. Do it because you want to be the best RPer that you can be. If you're satisfied and happy with yourself then you can just tell the rest of us to go to hell when if we bother you in the game and you won't need to whine about us, because you won't care.

And always remember, its a game. When you turn off your computer its like turning on a light, and none of us matter. Our characters are all just shadows and then we're gone.


Good evening to you all,
The Fire's Song.

[HarmNone]

That was very true, and very kind, FireSonata. I knew Vorthais, as well. I also believe his player is making an effort to enjoy the game more. Such effort should be encouraged, in my opinion. :)

HarmNone thanks the Fire's Song

[CrystalTears]

FireSonata, I do believe it's been a combination of the two. People would like to see him change AND he wants to change.

He's come here numerous times asking people why they don't like him and what he should do to change. When he says he will change, he continues to do things that he knows he shouldn't.

I applaud him for his desire to be a better player, however it doesn't happen overnight, neither does the opinion that others have accrued over the years will change overnight. It will be a slow process. I just don't believe that it's been strictly people ganging up on him to change his ways.

[JustMe]

No one told him to change, they just told him what they didn't like about him. He said he was going to change himself, you can't say he is being "pressured" to change. What he does is HIS responsibility and actions, not pressure from someone else. People could tell him all day long that he has to change or needs to change, in the end, it's HIS decision.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by LaVaca
Ok it went like this. Sorry as before I forgot to tell you that I also warned her. I forgot how this happened, but I might've warned her first, then she warned me, or it could've been the other way around.

It only happened a couple of hours ago Warclaidhm.. did the scooter crash really make your memory go like this?

Or could it be that ONCE AGAIN you conveniently leave out the truth and details until you are cornered with it.

You will never change.

[LaVaca]

The scooter crash is not a laughing matter. I dont think it was a lose of memory, rather I was in shock. Everything seemed to go in a daze.

If you want to know the whole situation. I was riding a 55cc scooter. It was all modified to go fast. It had a pipe, everything. It goes around 30 mi/h on a flat road. I was going down a very steep hill, I'd say, about a 90 degree angle. Full speed down. Now I dont wear a biycile helmet, its a special racing helmet used for quadrunners. It costs around 100$. Anyway, I was going very fast, it was sidewalk too by the way, I wasn't using good judgement; I was going to fast. I happened to hit a curb on the way, I went flying off the scooter at over 40 mi/h force and landed very hard. It is nothing to laugh about. If I didnt have the helmet on it would've been definitly a serious concusion, maybe even death. I was basically in a shock for along time, I had terrible road rash.

It seemed like a memory loss because when I came back to Gemstone, (after I patched myself up) I totally forgot everything. I couldnt remember where I was, what I was doing, nothing. It slowly returned back to normal though.

[AnticorRifling]

90 degree hill, a 55 CC that could do 30 but you were doing 40, you wearing a special helmet. Do you even read the stuff you post?

[AkMan]

What Anticor said.

A 90 degree hill? Come on man.

[longshot]

Originally posted by LaVaca
The scooter crash is not a laughing matter. I dont think it was a lose of memory, rather I was in shock. Everything seemed to go in a daze.

If you want to know the whole situation. I was riding a 55cc scooter. It was all modified to go fast. It had a pipe, everything. It goes around 30 mi/h on a flat road. I was going down a very steep hill, I'd say, about a 90 degree angle. Full speed down. Now I dont wear a biycile helmet, its a special racing helmet used for quadrunners. It costs around 100$. Anyway, I was going very fast, it was sidewalk too by the way, I wasn't using good judgement; I was going to fast. I happened to hit a curb on the way, I went flying off the scooter at over 40 mi/h force and landed very hard. It is nothing to laugh about. If I didnt have the helmet on it would've been definitly a serious concusion, maybe even death. I was basically in a shock for along time, I had terrible road rash.

It seemed like a memory loss because when I came back to Gemstone, (after I patched myself up) I totally forgot everything. I couldnt remember where I was, what I was doing, nothing. It slowly returned back to normal though.

This has to be a joke.

Nobody is really this stupid, are they?

You getting hurt is funny.

This is all a process that eventually will leave you with the inability to reproduce, this making the human gene pool stronger.

Maybe next time it will be a few fingers in a blender... who knows?

But we will laugh...

Oh yes!

We will laugh our asses off.

Why?

Because we can!

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Well, I'm probably gonna get hit by lightning, but anyone getting hurt badly isn't really funny -- even him.

God, can't believe I said that.

[crazymage]

Someone want to show me a 90 degree sidewalk...

[Trinitis]

wait..I was never too good at math..but

Ain't a 90 degree hill..strait down?

-Adredrin

[Tsa`ah]

::sighs::

Those "power" pipes and velocity air intakes DO NOT increase power. The frickin engine is a single stroke chainsaw motor. Open exhaust, vacuum aspirated. Adding an exhaust pipe is only going to give you more sound and a bit of backpressure (that may increase compression). Adding a cone filter does nothing. The wheelie effect is called throttle response. Meaning you hit the gas and it takes off quicker. No added equine, not a bit faster, just quicker.

Riding down a steep incline on an aluminum frame with a 2.2 hp single stroke engine is going to have a 5mph (tops) difference. What will happen, if it's that steep of an incline, is the engine will redline on the RPMs and the compression in the combustion chamber will spool (thus the increased MPH). At that point, while the scooter is in gear, there will be a braking, or decelerating effect until the spooled compression causes detonation (bye bye piston) and in the same instant, seizure. That's what happens when a connecting rod isn't connected to a piston and lodges into the piston wall thus bringing the crank and everything after to a halt.

You could get to maybe 30 MPH or better if you are at full speed when you come to the incline, let the compression spool a bit and then kick it into neutral. I'm guessing this did not happen.

I've had a few spills on motorcycles and they can be scary. I wiped out on 200cc scooters while screwing around on gravel. If you know how to take a spill, you'll walk away every time. Spills involving other vehicles are another matter.

This is entirely unsubstantial though.

You picked on a snert of mediocre training. Half the time I'm tempted to change my tone and mock people that don't know how to use it. I'm sure I would have laughed my ass off.

She stole from you, warnings were passed, and you killed her. Any points deducted for you Drizzdt stunt have now been nulled. bravo.

FireSonata had good advice, don't give a damn what anyone else thinks. Play your game and don't scam people. Don't ask what's wrong on message boards and no one will bother you with advice or bashing that you may or may not take heed of.

Since you have asked for advice, and I have given it, I'll give you more.

Stop using warn. That is the only detractor in this whole confrontation.

Don't whine and complain when someone drops something down the well. Those knee jerk reactions to you in game are because of how you have handled yourself in the past, both in game and on message boards. Look at it like this, if these ass clowns want to waste silver to play a joke on you, let them. It's costing you nothing. I would have simply shrugged my shoulders and asked who the real idiot was.

So, drop the warning, drop the harassing (unless there is a legitimate IC reason for it), be consistent with you RP, don't assist unless it is needed and don't have your fun at the expense of others, and don't come to a BBS and say your going to change or whine about how someone treated you.

God do my fingers hurt now.

[HappyGuyJr]

Complete and utter horse-shit.

40mph is nothing to get hit at. I was hit by a Semi doing 65, he changed lanes into me without looking, forcing me into the guard-rail. The front tire on my Suzuki GSX-RR 750 dragged till it hit a post, and I was thrown. I hit the pavement, and attempted to get my feet under me, but was simply moving too fast. I flipped over the rail and down the 150 foot drop of gravel, rock, and dirt waiting on the other side.

By the time I had dragged my dazed and sore ass back up the hillside, there were people standing around the semi, crawling and attempting to crawl under it, where my bike was hung up in the 2nd axle. Everyone seemed to think I was wrapped up in there somewhere with my bike. And it took me a few minutes to realize what several people were freaking and crying about.

Me? I dislocated my shoulder, wore a blue patch in my leather jacket, and scuffed my boots and gloves. I melted a small section of my backpack from friction, and had a livid bruise in my right hand in the shape of the handle I had death gripped to the point of it snapping off in my palm, which I was still holding when I got back up to Highway 17. Thats a mountain pass going thru the Santa Cruz Mountains, leading into Los Gatos.

My helmet never touched the ground, and didn't have a mark on it.

The next morning I was increadibly sore, but hardly in any kind of danger or difficulty.

Special racing Quadrunner helmet? Bullshit I say, complete and utter bullshit. Theres no such animal dumbass. There are 3 classes of cycle helmets, open face moto-cross style, enclosed face steet riders, and half helmet 'beanies', which are ment for low speed long distance/cross country riding, and provide minimal (if any protection).

There is one single unwritten law in cycles, get a $10 helmet if you have a $10 head, and no decent helmet is going to cost you less then $100. I actually have 2, a decent Bieffe, and a VERY nice Shoei RF-700 Elite whose main vents don't even open until you hit 80mph

The guys at the shop I took my bikes to all heard about the wreck, knew it was me, and all looked like they had seen a ghost when I showed the next day to price out a new bike :lol:

40mph a dangerous fall? I've taken worse tumbles on my 21 Speed... GOD you're such a putz, and a really lousy liar. SKATEBOARDERS fall harder then that.. if your going to lie about something, make it about something you have at least SOME expierience with.

55CC scooter? Thats a moped, rated at nearly 30mph, and there's no way it's going to reach 40+, "pipes" or not. They simply dont have the power to reach that kind of speed carrying anything larger then an 8 year old without a complete engine rebuild and customization. Your utter lack of awareness of 'everything' required cancels out the possibility of that.

I think it's funny how the stupedest of lies often have the teller belittling themselves in an effort to add some kind of credance to the lie itself. That, added to the simply appalling quality of language use leads me to believe you've either been huffing paint fumes, or like to chase parked cars when the voices start getting too loud.

And yes, a 90* angle is either a wall, or a cliff, straight up or down genius.


Originally posted by LaVaca
The scooter crash is not a laughing matter. I dont think it was a lose of memory, rather I was in shock. Everything seemed to go in a daze.

If you want to know the whole situation. I was riding a 55cc scooter. It was all modified to go fast. It had a pipe, everything. It goes around 30 mi/h on a flat road. I was going down a very steep hill, I'd say, about a 90 degree angle. Full speed down. Now I dont wear a biycile helmet, its a special racing helmet used for quadrunners. It costs around 100$. Anyway, I was going very fast, it was sidewalk too by the way, I wasn't using good judgement; I was going to fast. I happened to hit a curb on the way, I went flying off the scooter at over 40 mi/h force and landed very hard. It is nothing to laugh about. If I didnt have the helmet on it would've been definitly a serious concusion, maybe even death. I was basically in a shock for along time, I had terrible road rash.

It seemed like a memory loss because when I came back to Gemstone, (after I patched myself up) I totally forgot everything. I couldnt remember where I was, what I was doing, nothing. It slowly returned back to normal though.

[Edited on 10-5-2003 by HappyGuyJr]

[Savaard]

ever wonder if he just makes this shit up for attention? sorry if this has already been covered in the posts but I just recently started postin here and Im prolly a lil behind on my reading... but yeah

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Savaard
ever wonder if he just makes this shit up for attention? sorry if this has already been covered in the posts but I just recently started postin here and Im prolly a lil behind on my reading... but yeah

All the time. Who knows with him.

I think the scooter crash was invented when he was caught doing something or saying something he shouldn't have. He needed a believable excuse and that's what he came up with.. 90 degree incline and all.

[CrystalTears]

Aw, leave the poor guy alone. He probably hasn't gotten to Geometry and learned his angles yet. 90, 80, 50, what's the difference? ;)

By the way I don't know Warclaidhm or his player, all I have going is from what's been posted on this forum. The only thought that comes to my mind is, "Poor child, will he ever learn." He doesn't know better and I don't think he knows how. Eventually he will. He may have to plow into one of those real 90 degree angled walls first though and rejog his memory.

[Xcalibur]

He surely meant 45 degrees, my sister does the same mistake every time

for her 90 means perfectly diagonal angle (but it's 45 in that case)

[LaVaca]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Aw, leave the poor guy alone. He probably hasn't gotten to Geometry and learned his angles yet. 90, 80, 50, what's the difference? ;)

By the way I don't know Warclaidhm or his player, all I have going is from what's been posted on this forum. The only thought that comes to my mind is, "Poor child, will he ever learn." He doesn't know better and I don't think he knows how. Eventually he will. He may have to plow into one of those real 90 degree angled walls first though and rejog his memory.


a 90 degree angle is a right triangle. Thats what I thought of it as a triangle and yes, as a diagonal line. I do know geometry , and most trigometry. I just got confused on that type of angle.

[StrayRogue]

I think you meant 45 degree.

[Artha]

I do know geometry , and most trigometry.

There's your proof he isn't 13, if he isn't lieing.

Geometry isn't taught until high school, neither is trig.

[Drew2]

He wouldn't know Trig if it slapped him in the face. His math teacher probably told him a concept was used in Trig, and he thought "OMG I know TRIG!!!!"

Big difference.

[Chadj]

Ive been learning geometry since grade 6 if not younger.. nothing complicated till grade 7 or 8. But trig isnt learned to late 10th grade, if not 11th

[Drew2]

Hell if you want to get technical, I learned my shapes from Fisher Price when I was still wearing diapers. That's Geometry. Warclaidhm is an attention whore.

[Xcalibur]

Told you he meant that 45.. I know warclaidhm, he's like my sister

She has a "limit personnality"
For those that care, she "matured" at 23

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Chadj
Ive been learning geometry since grade 6 if not younger.. nothing complicated till grade 7 or 8. But trig isnt learned to late 10th grade, if not 11th

Knowledge of math concepts is useless as an indicator of maturity and age. I can not do things involving math and I am 33 with a masters in computer information and resource management.

[JustMe]

I just got done reading this whole thing and I don't think I've ever laughed so hard in my life...

Maybe I should start acting like an idiot/snert and blaming it on the fact that I was slung off the back of a 4-wheeler and hit my head on a tree.

Warclaidhm, the only thing I have to say is "Excuses, excuses." Figure it out for yourself.

[Savaard]

I remember when we first started see'n Warclaidhm, I gave em a hard time cause I was friends with Warclaidh and so I started off on a bad foot cause I didnt like the fact he was stealing a name from a friend of mine... Anyways later on my best friend irl(Draacon) became friends with him in the game so I gave him the benefit of the doubt and gave him another chance... so yeah Warclaidhm and I were friends I guess, Im incredibly lazy when it comes to training so naturally Warclaidhm caught up to me in trains... Anyways whenever he'd see me out hunting he'd jump right on in and not say anything and just join my group. My fiance in game is Khalypso, we hardly ever spend time together cause she's gone alot... we were hunting and Warclaidhm showed up and sure enough he jumped in, grabbed loot, and just kinda invited himself in... I was given that look by the girl so I was like, "Warclaidhm, tryin to spend time with my girl if you dont mind" and he got all bent outa shape and gave me that bs about not being his friend etc. Anyways later on he apologized and asked for another chance etc. I gave him one... bout this stage in his life he was into dueling and redux, so whenever he'd see me he would try and lop my leg off with his claidhmore to check my current dux and compare, which got rather annoying but anyways... A bit later on my friend Dyridian was looking for a breastplate that was further enchantable and Warclaidhm sold him one claiming that it was, later to find out that it wasnt...When Dyridian asked for a refund Warclaidhm said I dont do refunds. So since I was the middle person friend to both Dyridian and Warclaidhm, I said "you sold something that wasnt what you said it was and you need to give a refund to him or you will lose a lot of respect from me" about as soon as I said that..... "Warclaidhm is informing you that he wishes to have no further interaction with you OF ANY KIND! He desires that the two of you go your separate ways and have no further contact. " So I was like ok fine whatever and went on with my life in relief that I wouldnt be legged outa the blue, I could hunt in peace without having idiothm jumping in on my kills... Life was good. Then about a month later I run into him in sheru, guess who jumps right in and acts like he never warned me... Asks me if we're still friends cause he's having a shortage at the momment. So trying to not be a dick Im like sure we can be friends again... So Im friendly to him and whatnot life goes on. not long after, folk are on the boulder dueling and whatnot... Im there as well as a few others and Warclaidhm... Since we were close to being the same train we dueled, so we're duelin and he busts out a blue crystal with his claidhmore and Im like whoa, thats not fair dueling... And I scold him for it... "Warclaidhm is informing you that he wishes to have no further interaction with you OF ANY KIND! He desires that the two of you go your separate ways and have no further contact. "

since then I think he made up to me again and I just kinda said whatever... until a day ago he killed Augie, a friend of many of us, which irritated the hell outa me cause of how he did it. So I go and talk to him about it and he busts out his lil net cloak and goes invis'd... Later on that day I see Huka selling a very ugly cloak but I remember'd that my friend liked Mularos so I thought I might buy it for em... So I outbid Warclaidhm and was gunna hang onto it for my buddy when Warclaidhm thought on the net, well shoot I guess Im out I only have 920k! *whines* 10k less than what I bid... which makes me think that he just said that shit for attention and pity....cause if he really wanted that cloak for himself and not resale Im sure he'd have bid more and found the rest(if he really didnt have more) so anyways, thats my sum'd up life story with Warmookhm!

and there are a many other times when he's flat out pissed me off but ohwell... Trying to change, he's said it countless times... Will he change now or is this just a thread for more attention? I agree with whoever said find a new game... I think its too late for a new reputation kid.

[Edited on 10-5-2003 by Savaard]

[Edaarin]

Meh, it's completely possible to take Geometry when you're 13. About half my class took Algebra II/Trig their freshman year, the rest took Geometry.

[Savaard]

I dont think he's 13, he's prolly near 18 or so which makes him even more sad.

[Chadj]

Actually, due to a conversation a friend of mine and he had, he is between id say 13-15... not much older.

[LaVaca]

Originally posted by Edaarin
Meh, it's completely possible to take Geometry when you're 13. About half my class took Algebra II/Trig their freshman year, the rest took Geometry.

Um perhaps I dont take that in school? In fact I don't, they wont let me, no matter how high your grade is.And since I have a love for math and science I searched though the internet and learned trigonmetry.

I also strive to have the best grade possible. I guess you could call me compulsilve. I'm so obessed with school that if I get anything below a 3.8 GPA I'm pissed. I don't like school, but I'd rather get good grades so I could go into a good colleage.

Perhaps I have some social problems, but that doesn't make me an idiot, I'm very intelligent.

[Edited on 10-5-2003 by LaVaca]

[theotherjohn]

LaVaca. word of advice. take it or not. I dont care.

start using a online dictionary and check your posts before you post them. You will remove your glaring spelling errors and give people less ammo to attack you

[StrayRogue]

To add to the above: Just ignore/stay away from Ardwen. I think it will cause alot less trouble in the long run.

[Artha]

I'm very intelligent.

There's a difference between knowing things and being smart.

Damn, I'm deep.

[CrystalTears]

A love for math and you didn't know the difference between a 45 and 90 degree angle?

Edit: By the way, we've had our share of "geniuses" here lately. Intelligence does not include nor equal common sense.

[Edited on 10/5/2003 by CrystalTears]

[HappyGuyJr]

Who's prettier? I wanna know who to ask out :smilegrin:


Originally posted by Xcalibur
Told you he meant that 45.. I know warclaidhm, he's like my sister

She has a "limit personnality"
For those that care, she "matured" at 23

[HappyGuyJr]

Well SAID! :smug: Now put on yer dancin' shoes.. we goin out!

Oh.. and yeah.. I started Geometry in my Freshman year of Highschool, but should have started it a year earlier, but they gave me a choice in 8th grade, Algebra or Geometry...

Heh... Jeneal was in Algebra... guess which I took? :rolleyes:


Originally posted by CrystalTears
A love for math and you didn't know the difference between a 45 and 90 degree angle?

Edit: By the way, we've had our share of "geniuses" here lately. Intelligence does not include nor equal common sense.

[Edited on 10/5/2003 by CrystalTears]

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Savaard
since then I think he made up to me again and I just kinda said whatever... until a day ago he killed Augie, a friend of many of us, which irritated the hell outa me cause of how he did it.

I wasn't aware of the etiquette pertaining to thieves and how they are dealt with. Care to explain?

Aside from the warning aspect, Augie the thief got punked in a pretty clever way. I take it she was in RT from picking and was dragged out of town. I call that a grand strategy.

It's an old worn out argument dealing with thievery. The thief takes advantage of the opportunity to steal (outside of sancts, which?s all the time). The victim, in my opinion, has the right to extract justice within a reasonable amount of time. I prefer to wait for the opportunity to do it with the utmost ease.

I wouldn't have blamed him if he waited a week to do it. I've waited months myself. The trick is to let the thief know he/she will be dealt with in due time.

Augie is a warn freak merchant whore to begin with. I even remember a stink in the official rogue folder over her defense of keeping a closed group while stealing. I'm actually shocked he was able to drag her.

To me she received a touch of justice that will be trailed by a reputation. I wish we could tattoo it on her forehead "PWNED by Warclaidhm - 10-04-03"

[Edaarin]

Are all old men so bitter that they hold grudges for months? <duck>

[Xcalibur]

For the record, I killed warclaidhm 4 times and he killed me 0

I agree with that tatoo but warclaidhm is begining to be powerful, i'd say in his 40's... beware people that flames him!

HappyGuyJr: I think you know the answer :lol:

[Edited on 6-10-03 by Xcalibur]

[Tsa`ah]

Why don't you come to our Hallowed Eve bash?

I'll sign you up for the hayloft jump.... except I'm going to chuck you off the loft... repeatedly.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'd agree with everything you say Tsa'ah, EXCEPT HE WARNED HER THEN KILLED HER.

I could give a rats ass if he just killed her. The WARN THEN KILLING is what everyone is talking about.

Good for him for killing her, I'd do the same were I him and SAW it (which he didn't btw), only reason he even knew was she mentioned it on the net.

He admited it, read one of the 3 or 4 threads on his dumb ass and you'll see it. Again, for all those that think he's changed, tell me why he'd post on Klaive's dead boards that "Vorthais is back!", several times in fact.

Doesn't sound so changed to me.

[Xcalibur]

Suppa Hobbit Mage:

Some people just use internet to have fun/piss off people/flame

Warclaidhm COULD be intelligent

speculation: Maybe he is intelligent AND he just laugh his ass off of you guys, about the fact you give him so much attention about his so called "immature" behavior

Maybe

other speculation: maybe he's just plain idiot

[Tsa`ah]

Big woop! He warned her. She warned him to. She also broadcast her pilfering of him over the net from my understanding.

My question is did she warn him before, after or at the point of theft? Did she broadcast her escapade on the net before, after, or at the point of warning him?

Just to reiterate my stance. Everything was fine, with the exception of warning.

They are both twits. One twit is just pissed over the loss of a deed and to whom it was lost. Were Augie smart she would drop it and just go get her tattoo. In my experience she's not all that bright. She will probably go after a deed in revenge, at which point she will be in violation of policy, providing Warclaidhm reports her.

I'm with CT, the best we can hope for is that the two of them will deed each other.

[Edaarin]

Heh. I may take some flak here too, but I kinda like Augie. In my past experiences, she's been nothing but polite and nice. Not really a big fan of all the merchanting, but I'll be honest, I probably resell 90% of the shit I buy a few days later. I'm not really around her too much, so who knows, I could be wrong but in this case I'm on her side. You don't warn someone and then violate it 2 minutes later when you see an easy chance to kill them.

By the way, selling a vultite fish spine sword!

[Tsa`ah]

I'm still chucking you from the loft the first chance I get shorty.

I can't begrudge anyone because they like someone I don't. No flak given.

I am going to give you the biggest wedgie of your life and hurl you from the loft using your boxers as a grip.

[Soulpieced]

Mmmm, math. Granted I don't really consciously think about the things, you really do use it a lot in everyday application. If this makes sense to you, you are good. P.S. Kranar rules.

.

public static void transaction(int price[], String[] machine, int itemCount){
int totalCoins = 0;
String list;
//Check product availability
if (itemCount == 0) {
JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null,
"Sorry, vending machine is empty", "No Products Available",
JOptionPane.INFORMATION_MESSAGE);
}
else {
boolean more = true;
while (more) {
String processing = JOptionPane.showInputDialog(null,
"What are you doing? (1=enter coin, 2=make selection, 3=change return)",
"Customer Transaction Processing", JOptionPane.QUESTION_MESSAGE);
int enter = Integer.parseInt(processing);
switch (enter) {
//This case will determine the total value of the coins entered.
case 1:
String coins = JOptionPane.showInputDialog(null,
"What kind of coin? (1=quarter, 2=dime, 3=nickel)",
"Coin Input", JOptionPane.QUESTION_MESSAGE);
int currency = Integer.parseInt(coins);
totalCoins += coin(currency);
if (coin(currency) == 0) {
JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null,
"Invalid coin type!", "Input Error", JOptionPane.ERROR_MESSAGE);
JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null,
"Total money input: " + totalCoins, "Coin Input Result",
JOptionPane.INFORMATION_MESSAGE);
}
else {
JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null,
"Total money input: " + totalCoins, "Coin Input Result",
JOptionPane.INFORMATION_MESSAGE);
}
break;

[AkMan]

Easy! Vending machine code.

[Drew2]

"Sorry, vending machine is empty", "No Products Available",


...What was your first clue?

[peam]

Good to see that I'm not the only one who bugs Kranar for help coding.

Bad to see that this has nothing to do with Warclaidhm.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by peam
Bad to see that this has nothing to do with Warclaidhm.

I was thinking the same thing.

Wruh wro Waggie.

[HappyGuyJr]

Coolness, tell her to get her dancin' shoes on, I'll be there at 6 to pick her up. I promise to have her back by... um.. Friday?

:saint: :o :lol:


Originally posted by Xcalibur

HappyGuyJr: I think you know the answer

:smilegrin:

[Edited on 10-6-2003 by HappyGuyJr]

[Warriorbird]

He's around 18ish...which makes it all the more sad. More lies than a web based rap group.

[LaVaca]

Originally posted by Soulpieced
Mmmm, math. Granted I don't really consciously think about the things, you really do use it a lot in everyday application. If this makes sense to you, you are good. P.S. Kranar rules.

.

public static void transaction(int price[], String[] machine, int itemCount){
int totalCoins = 0;
String list;
//Check product availability
if (itemCount == 0) {
JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null,
"Sorry, vending machine is empty", "No Products Available",
JOptionPane.INFORMATION_MESSAGE);
}
else {
boolean more = true;
while (more) {
String processing = JOptionPane.showInputDialog(null,
"What are you doing? (1=enter coin, 2=make selection, 3=change return)",
"Customer Transaction Processing", JOptionPane.QUESTION_MESSAGE);
int enter = Integer.parseInt(processing);
switch (enter) {
//This case will determine the total value of the coins entered.
case 1:
String coins = JOptionPane.showInputDialog(null,
"What kind of coin? (1=quarter, 2=dime, 3=nickel)",
"Coin Input", JOptionPane.QUESTION_MESSAGE);
int currency = Integer.parseInt(coins);
totalCoins += coin(currency);
if (coin(currency) == 0) {
JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null,
"Invalid coin type!", "Input Error", JOptionPane.ERROR_MESSAGE);
JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null,
"Total money input: " + totalCoins, "Coin Input Result",
JOptionPane.INFORMATION_MESSAGE);
}
else {
JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null,
"Total money input: " + totalCoins, "Coin Input Result",
JOptionPane.INFORMATION_MESSAGE);
}
break;


While I'm still learning C++, I cant get my damn compiler to work. I use Dev.cpp

I asked lots of folks who are good with C++ and they dont know why its acting up.

Here's a program which some people learn first:

#include <iostream.h>

int main()
{
cout << "Hello World!\n";
return 0;
}

[Soulpieced]

People were mentioning math. Java is a pretty heavy math-oriented language. I said in the beginning of the post this was referring to people saying math sucks, it's useless, etc. etc. etc. You stole fizzy lifting drinks, you get nothing... Er.. nervermind.

[Drew2]

I knew C++ the first semester of my Junior year of HS.

I couldn't program my way out of a paper bag with it now.


I remember HTML still I think.

[GemstoneFan]

I write Java apps all day long in "the real world" and don't touch any math whatsoever. Oracle SQL, PL/SQL, and heavy database calls and processing / manipulation of data, yes. Math? Nope.

Heaviest math I've needed to do was some financial application programming for a company... and they gave me their own standard formulas for that ;-)

But now we are SOOOOOO far off topic.

[Drew2]

Warscooterhm is a tool.


Not only am I back on topic but I'm stealing from Backlash.

[AnticorRifling]

I thought I coined that name? Ahh well it's still classic.

[Drew2]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
I thought I coined that name? Ahh well it's still classic.

I stole the name from you, the insult from Backlash.

I have no creativity I guess.

[Xcalibur]

When I was 14, i wanted a scooter. When a friend of mine bought one and about 95% of all the kids in school laughed at him, i changed my mind.

Now, here, scooters are seen only with people weighting like 400 pounds and with neat jogging clothes

[GS4Gurl]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
When I was 14, i wanted a scooter. When a friend of mine bought one and about 95% of all the kids in school laughed at him, i changed my mind.

Now, here, scooters are seen only with people weighting like 400 pounds and with neat jogging clothes

scooter + 400lbs. = flat tires, smooshed scooter, and no movement


I love math!

[Artha]

It's called hyperbole.

[Xcalibur]

No Artha, it wasn't an hyperbole

Everyone knows that every people got their weight written on their forehead :smilegrin: that's how i figured it out it was around 400 pounds
:spin:

key word too was the "like"

[Edited on 8-10-03 by Xcalibur]

[Kailya]

Anyone seen warclaidhealer?

[Betheny]

can you get a DUI on a scooter?

[Kailya]

Well, definitely public intoxication!

[Betheny]

For that i shall go visit my work and breathe rum on whoever the hell is working

thx

[BroVod]

Why hasn't anyone deeded warmookhm yet?

[A Voice Among the Many]

I am quite suprised that he hasn't fallen within the whole "High Maintenance Character" policy that Simutronics made such a huge deal out of in the first place. It is obvious that he does not wish to seek out the advice that he claims he wishes.

He does not seem to want to change his ways, judging by his continuous immature actions. I believe that the more that people speak about him, whine at him, bitch at him, and make him feel inferior, he will merely thrive on that all the more willingly. If we were all to just stop and ignore him completely, I will guarantee he will get bored with his act and drop it.

[Betheny]

Ill' change his ways, give me a 2x4 6 foot long and some rusty nails

[BroVod]

...just an odd thought....if this mookhm commited suicide...is gemstone considered a legal area?..I mean you hear all the time about how school bullies get arrested or sued and stuff in civil courts for pushing these suicidal kids over the edge for picking on them, making fun of them and all that noise...what if he wrote sum long note about how people in game pushed him to do himself in, in the real world...I've been drinking and thought about that, that it was funny and odd...but then again, i'm all messed up, upstairs heheheh, chew on that!

[BroVod]

oh, and if anyone wants tickets to Ardwen's raffle let me know, i think i got sum left over from last time!

[A Voice Among the Many]

Well considering parents can try to sue video game and online gaming companies for death of their children due to the seizures they have for playing them (as was the case with EverQuest), anything is possible.

I personally pity him and doubt he'll ever change. The problem with him is he fails to see the error of his ways. It's a constant "I'll change" then he goes back to the way he was then it's "I'm sorry! I'll change this time for real I swear!" then he goes back to the way he was. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[BroVod]

If he really truley with all his heart wants to change, reroll, make a new character...he's not that old in game..start over, start fresh, and do it right

[LaVaca]

Originally posted by BroVod
...just an odd thought....if this mookhm commited suicide...is gemstone considered a legal area?..I mean you hear all the time about how school bullies get arrested or sued and stuff in civil courts for pushing these suicidal kids over the edge for picking on them, making fun of them and all that noise...what if he wrote sum long note about how people in game pushed him to do himself in, in the real world...I've been drinking and thought about that, that it was funny and odd...but then again, i'm all messed up, upstairs heheheh, chew on that!


Honestly if I had a gun I would. However I don't have the mone y. Soon as Ican I'll get a loan from the bank and borrow money then go do it. :Shrug: People hate me in game and out, I have no use to live. Look how people treat me here, really, people would be happier if I just killed myself.

[Xcalibur]

That is lies

don't believe him

He won't commit suicide, that's a call for attention

p.s. you don't need a gun to suicide, you need to be the most coward person on the face of earth, take pills, jump of a bridge, cutting your veins.

Stop that, seriously, it's really pathetic, you won't do it, we all know it, your life sux as much as you want it to sux

[Edited on 23-10-03 by Xcalibur]

[StrayRogue]

Perhaps play it smarter than Atheana and actually listen to what people say to you. Take their advice. I am all for eugenics and the cleansing of the gene pool from weaker matter, but killing yourself because of a game is pretty foolish.

[LaVaca]

Ok don't believe me. Obviously no one on the web would know anyway considering my parents wouldnt post anything of the like. I Jsut wouldnt be around. I'm planning to do this, and I'm serious about it, its no joke. But think if it as you wish.

[StrayRogue]

Seek help. Outside the game. Quit the game it it weighs so heavily on your life.

[StrayRogue]

Peacehm just went south.

[CrystalTears]

How about you just log out of the game and seek professional help. Seriously. Telling people on a message board that you're actually considering killing yourself over a game is not something that anyone can help you with. Please seek help from a live person.

[Xcalibur]

He's lying

Take that as seriously as Klaive's death threat

Mythoman, they all are!

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by LaVaca
Ok don't believe me. Obviously no one on the web would know anyway considering my parents wouldnt post anything of the like. I Jsut wouldnt be around. I'm planning to do this, and I'm serious about it, its no joke. But think if it as you wish.

I'm done with you. Next time I'm seeing I will warn interact you and I will report and make sure it's actually taken seriously. I want nothing to do with your sorry attention seeking self.

Get professional help.

[CrystalTears]

Serious or not, that's not an issue you play around with, and I for one do not want to hear how someone wants to kill themselves over a game on a message boards. This is the worst type of attention seeking that people despise and it's not going to get himself any better with the GS population he so strongly want to belong in.

[Edaarin]

...

Speaking to you. The player. Close your Gemstone account, take a year or so off to do normal stuff, go hang out with your friends, go to the mall, go to movies, stay the hell away from Gemstone.

That is all.

[LaVaca]

I don't have any friends in real life. I don't have a girlfriend. Just two parents 11 rabbits and 2 dogs

[Adhara]

http://www.sprc.org/index.asp

http://contactusa.org/

[Xcalibur]

No, i disagree with Adhara

Do not use computers to get friends.

Go to medieval stores, buy stuff, hang around, go to place they play magic the gathering (and game like that) cards game

Go to the library, GO

Do not remain in your room searching, you must get outside

Leaving the "addiction" (computers) is the first part of the cure

[HappyGuyJr]

Mmmmmmmm... rabbit & doggy stew :P


Originally posted by LaVaca
I don't have any friends in real life. I don't have a girlfriend. Just two parents 11 rabbits and 2 dogs

[Adhara]

........... Those are suicide prevention websites with numbers for help lines................

[Xcalibur]

He won't do it, he just needs a kick in the butt

(thought it was place to meet people, sorry, heheh)

[longshot]

Usually, people give away all their things of meaning and value before they kill themselves...

I doubt Warscooter would be able to part with any of his hard scammed items.

How are you planning to kill yourself?

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
Do not use computers to get friends.

Go to the library, GO



Maybe that's why Ben was at the library, looking for friends.

[Dighn Darkbeam]

Best advice is to take a forced break from GS. If the game is making you feel anything but pleasure or entertainment it is time to stop immediately.

As for friends? I have no advice, never had alot. Start exercising though, running and/or swimming. Join a gym if your old enough.PT makes you feel and look better, and you dont need to do it with anyone.

Get a new hobby, start watching alot of movies or reading books. You can have a good time by yourself, you just have to get used to being alone.

Not to plug my job but consider getting involved in something like the JROTC or other military organized groups. Possibly take an interest in some form of organized religion. I personally didnt go that route, but it seems to make people happy enough.

You dont need to quit gemstone if you still want to play. Simply liquidate your characters assests as descretely as possible, have someone hold them. If you cant find anyone I will roll up a character and hold them for you. Dighn has never cheated anyone, and I wouldnt stop now. You need to close that account, roll up a new character and stay in an isolated area. RP one on one as best you can, and try to build your skills.

Killing yourself is the most selfish thing you can do. Think of what it would do to your family, especially your parents. Your basically telling them they are total failures.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by LaVaca

Honestly if I had a gun I would. However I don't have the mone y. Soon as Ican I'll get a loan from the bank and borrow money then go do it. :Shrug: People hate me in game and out, I have no use to live. Look how people treat me here, really, people would be happier if I just killed myself.

BOOOOOO HOOOOOO! :sniffle::sniffle::sniffle:
JUST when I thought you couldn't sink any lower.. you surprise even me.

How much an attention whore are you? My god, give me a break. You are so pathetic that you would kill yourself

OVER A STUPID GAME???

Get a fucking grip already. Forget us... do YOURSELF a damn favor and QUIT GEMSTONE. Get out and see something other than your dark skanky room. Go play football... go to the movies... get laid.

Do something.

[ClawofAndelas]

Originally posted by Maimara
Ill' change his ways, give me a 2x4 6 foot long and some rusty nails

That was totally sexy for some reason.

Anyway...

I now reiterate my request that you quit Gemstone and take up masturbation. It doesn't require friends or a girlfriend. It certainly does not require 11 rabbits and 2 dogs. (Stay far away from THOSE websites. <shiver>)

Just beat it.

~The Claw

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by LaVaca
I don't have any friends in real life. I don't have a girlfriend. Just two parents 11 rabbits and 2 dogs

If your parents do not know how troubled you are, and how much hurt you are experiencing, go to them and tell them. Do it now.

You need professional help, hon. The way you are feeling can be treated. But, you must stop trying to find a way to feel better through an internet game and internet message boards. It will not work for you.

Please, get help. Go to your parents and tell them how you are feeling.

HarmNone does care

[Vesi]

1-800-SUICIDE.

Get help now.

Vesi

[LaVaca]

Basically what hurts me the most is some of these people on the boards. Yes, I like your help of this, but it really gets to me in real life. I have depression, and for some reason I can't take insults well.

Saying things like:
BOOOOOO HOOOOOO!
JUST when I thought you couldn't sink any lower.. you surprise even me.

How much an attention whore are you? My god, give me a break. You are so pathetic that you would kill yourself


Is really low and makes me feel bad. I'm not trying to seek attention, I'm trying to express my feelings. People on these boards make me feel worthless, and its only getting worse. I've tried to ignore the board, not go to it, etc, but I can't stop myselff, I'm curious to see what people will say to me since I am trying to change.

[Drew2]

From the ages of about 11-14, I seriously considered suicide for a long time. I didn't threaten anyone, I didn't tell my parents I would do it or anything... I just always thought about it. I think my last episode ended with me with a knife to my wrist and my friend on the phone talking me out of it. It was scary.

But then I grew up. Realized there was more to life than what was beyond my limited perceived reality. I decided to take action... change myself... change my life. All in all, I'm pretty happy with the results. I look better, feel better, act better, It's easy for me to get friends...

I think a lot had to do with my mother's divorce of my step-father. After he was out of my life, I gradually started to feel worth more than I did. I felt I had more purpose. Most of this happened internally... I didn't seek help, etc. There were some points I'm sure I cried out for attention, but in the end, it came down to my own lack of self-confidence and insecurities.

Basically, Warclaidhm, you just need to change something in your life. Whether it be quiting GS, finding a hobby, exercise, reading... ANYTHING. Any small change can have a chain reaction and lead to small progressions in your overall self-esteem.

I know this from experience. There's more to life than claidhmores and bunny costumes.

[LaVaca]

If I can get back to excercising I will, I noticed it helps me too. I'm trying to do things in small progressions as well. Thank you Tayre

[Kurili]

I'm sorry to be mean. The advice given was good. Get off the boards altogether.

We are not required to be nice to you. Sorry, we arent paid to be here. And I dont think I could take a job as a paid friend anyway. But looking for acceptance on a message board, or in a game, is not what you should be doing. Especially not this message board. This is mainly adults here, and we come here for many reasons. And niceness isnt required.

If you seriously have such esteem problems, and do feel despairing, by all means, GET OFF THE COMPUTER and talk to your mother and father. Talk to a teacher, religious leader, anything. Dont keep spending time here whining, when you know very well you are not getting the acceptance you want here. And probably never will.

And at the risk of being deemed heartless, yes, you are an attention whore. Sorry. After the last few posts, you still come back and whine that someone wasnt nice to you. Get over it, get out of the house, and find some outside interests.

Acolyte Kurili

[Drew2]

Per your last post, another major change that helped me move on...

I stopped caring about what people thought. I just figured if they're not doing me any good, fuck them. I didn't turn bitter... I just didn't spend time dwelling on other's opinions, insults, etc. It's hard at first.. but eventually you learn to let it just roll off you. Start by pretending it doesn't bother you. Either people will stop, or you'll convince yourself it really doesn't bother you, and then that leaves you open to worry about more important things than what the Captain of the football team, who will most likely spend the rest of his life at some dead-end, low paying job, thinks about you.

Just do your thing... ignore me, ignore the rest of these people. If you don't want them to say shit about you, don't post. Don't change for anyone but yourself, and only do it when you're ready. Once you detach yourself from what others think, life becomes a whole lot easier.

I babble too much. omg.

[HarmNone]

Exercise is one of the best available treatments for depression. It costs nothing, the side-effects are beneficial, and you do not need anyone to get you started. You just need to do it.

Depression tends to leave people in a state of inertia. Depressed people are more likely to sit around and feed their depression rather than get up and do something that might help. It is part of the disease process, and it is difficult to overcome. You really have to make a concerted effort in order to get past it.

For you, Warclaidhm, instead of sitting in front of the computer, promise yourself that for one hour out of every four hours that you are awake, you will do something good for yourself that is not connected to the computer. Do some exercise. Read. Go out and take a walk. Sit and think about times you have enjoyed and how those feelings might be recreated. Talk to your parents about the way you are feeling and ask their help.

If you will do these things, you can make life better for yourself. Playing GemStone is not going to help you. To me, it looks like it may be harming you.

HarmNone

[Drew2]

Unlike what Kurili said, I know how hard it is to talk to an authority figure about your problems. It's near impossible to talk to adults about how you feel, what goes on, etc.. Mostly because most adults don't remember what it's like to be that age, or they experienced a completely different livelyhood than what you have. The fact is, telling someone like Warclaidhm to talk to adults isn't as easy as it sounds. I know this.

I'm not saying adults CAN'T help, I'm saying it's hard for people like him to just open up to adults. They're not your equals... they may not know you well enough to read you like you need to be read. It's just hard.

I don't know if my point came across, but oh well.

[Drew2]

What HarmNone said is right. Experience is the key to changing. No matter what it is... events have a way of connecting and intertwining themselves to different parts of your life. While something you do may seem inconsequential at first, a week, a month, a year from then... it may have an affect on something. Picking up a new hobby, meeting a new person, overcoming something that's stopping you from doing something you want to do... the possibilities are endless. And each will help you get out of this rut you're in.

I was there not long ago myself.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Tayre
Unlike what Kurili said, I know how hard it is to talk to an authority figure about your problems. It's near impossible to talk to adults about how you feel, what goes on, etc.. Mostly because most adults don't remember what it's like to be that age, or they experienced a completely different livelyhood than what you have. The fact is, telling someone like Warclaidhm to talk to adults isn't as easy as it sounds. I know this.

I'm not saying adults CAN'T help, I'm saying it's hard for people like him to just open up to adults. They're not your equals... they may not know you well enough to read you like you need to be read. It's just hard.

I don't know if my point came across, but oh well.

I understand what you are saying, Tayre, and I know that it is true. However, if a depressed young person is able to talk to his/her parents, he/she must do so. It is from them that help can come.

A young person cannot afford to pay for evaluation, treatment and medication, if medication is required. A depressed young person benefits hugely from someone who loves them AND understands what they are going through.

Some people are not lucky enough to have supportive parents. That is sad, but too true. However, Warclaidhm may have parents who truly care but just do not know that their help is needed. Unless they are told...unless they are brought into it...how can they help?

HarmNone is a parent who really cares. I would hope my children would tell me if they need my help. :)

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by LaVaca
Basically what hurts me the most is some of these people on the boards. Yes, I like your help of this, but it really gets to me in real life. I have depression, and for some reason I can't take insults well.

Saying things like:
BOOOOOO HOOOOOO!
JUST when I thought you couldn't sink any lower.. you surprise even me.

How much an attention whore are you? My god, give me a break. You are so pathetic that you would kill yourself


Is really low and makes me feel bad. I'm not trying to seek attention, I'm trying to express my feelings. People on these boards make me feel worthless, and its only getting worse. I've tried to ignore the board, not go to it, etc, but I can't stop myselff, I'm curious to see what people will say to me since I am trying to change.

Hold on.. I feel a tear swelling...

:sniffle:

There, better.

You can try and pull this shit on other folks pal.. but I've seen your act for FAR TOO LONG to know you are merely trying to pull the very last card you have in your deck... the "I'll kill myself sympathy" card.

The "I'll change" card didn't work.

The "I lost all my money" sympathy card fell short.

The "I really don't care if you like me or not" indifference card drew nothing.

The "I'm not Warclaidhm, I'm Fishsticks" presto chango card didn't work.

The "Isn't Ardwen an asshole" diversion card flopped.

The "I'm not Fishsticks, I'm LaVaca!" presto II card was transparent in your first post.

I've seen your deck... you have one card left. Use it with some of these saps if you will... but I've already given you the absolute best advice...

REROLL AND START OVER.

And let me reiterate my initial comment once you tossed your "I'll commit suicide" card... if you are really that pathetic to kill yourself over a stupid game, then feel free. I personally do not wish to take the chance of someone like that further polluting the gene pool.

[Drew2]

I can't claim to know Warclaidhm any better than anyone else... so ParkBandit may be right. This could be a cry for attention, but I'm hoping there's advice here somewhere he can take and apply to whatever situation he's facing. The cold slap in the face bit is played enough here, so I'd thought I'd try a different method.

I'm not saying ParkBandit is doing anything wrong, however. :)

[HarmNone]

Agreed, Tayre. I will not sit back and judge anyone's reaction to what has been posted here. People see things in different ways, and react as individuals. It is that which makes the world an interesting place.

Tools for living life come in many guises. The trick is to recognize the one that will work best for you. I hope that Warclaidhm's player finds one here that will work for him. :)

HarmNone would like to see something work

[JustMe]

Warclaidhm, if you didn't spend 24/7 on the computer, you probably wouldn't have social problems and you'd probably have friends. It doesn't matter if you're fat, ugly, a dork, if you wear glasses, if you like computers, none if it matters because there is always someone out there that will befriend you. They might be just like you, but you have to find them. Hell, even "cutters" who are usually social outcast and have very bad family problems have friends and meet people just like them. Just get off the computer and go out and meet people. I'm not saying it will be easy to meet people like you that like you for who you are, but if everything in life was easy, you wouldn't appreciate shit. So go out, go places like the mall to the video arcade, I'm sure you like playing games, or go to the library. There has to be somewhere that you can meet people that will like you for you, you just have to find it.

[Adhara]

What you said about going to parents is true Tayre. If there is something wrong I go to my mother now but when I was a teen, the last people I wanted to talk about my problems with were my parents.

I've had some rough times and found some great (and almost free) professional help at my school. There are also free help lines.

If you are comfortable with your parents (or a parent), they should be the ones you should turn to but for most teenagers it's not obvious. Don't keep it inside. Find someone you're comfortable with (friend, school therapist) and start talking about it. It is the first step on the healing path.

[Xcalibur]

need 3 things

a foot in a big boot

warclaidhm's player

a kick in the butt

only that

[JustMe]

If you're really that bad and need somewhere to express your feelings without people you know judging you, join Xanga. www.xanga.com It's a free online journal type thing. Type your little heart out there and at least that way you can reread everything, see what is good/bad in your life and try to fix it. If you start doing something such as working out and exercising, write it down there, keep track and you'll see how much better your mood gets also.

[Xcalibur]

Internet is the worst thing to happen to humanity

I repeat

Internet is the worst thing to happen to humanity

I am pretty sure internet is the worst thing to happen to humanity

Internet should be used ONLY by people with enough willpower/strength/intelligence


If i got major in psychology, I do my these on that

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Tayre

I'm not saying ParkBandit is doing anything wrong, however. :)

I would have thought by now you know what everyone else knows..

ParkBandit does no wrong :)

I know my post sounded harsh... I guess I'll never be a good suicide hotline operator.. but I've just seen the shit Warclaidhm's player has tried to pull in the past. Folks here have too, but they seem to be more forgiving than me.

[Edited on 10-23-2003 by Parkbandit]

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Adhara
What you said about going to parents is true Tayre. If there is something wrong I go to my mother now but when I was a teen, the last people I wanted to talk about my problems with were my parents.

I've had some rough times and found some great (and almost free) professional help at my school. There are also free help lines.

If you are comfortable with your parents (or a parent), they should be the ones you should turn to but for most teenagers it's not obvious. Don't keep it inside. Find someone you're comfortable with (friend, school therapist) and start talking about it. It is the first step on the healing path.

I find it very sad that so many young people find it difficult to go to their parents with the problems they encounter during the growing-up period.

My kids did come to me. I admit that there were times when I felt like I was in over my head, and had to ask for a few minutes (or hours, at times) "thinking time" before we could sit down and talk things out intelligently. However, we always managed to do so. When I needed help to help them, I was not afraid, nor did I hesitate, to get it. All and all, we did damned well and I am bursting with pride over the two people I now call my adult "children". They are awesome!

Oddly enough, when I need help now, guess where I go. :D

HarmNone is very, very lucky

[Drew2]

I went to my mother for some things. But I lied a lot as a child. It was part of the attention thing...

So when I went to her and told her my step-father had slapped me across the face and thrown me against a wall and she didn't believe me, I lost all hope. I was very much alone for the next few years until she realized how evil he was and divorced him.

So yes, while parents can help you with some things, sometimes it's near impossible to talk to them about things. Especially when one of your parents IS the problem.

Yet... like HarmNone, my mother already comes to me for help. It's weird.

[Xcalibur]

Warclaidhm has the habit to say it's not his fault.

That habit speaks a lot about his life, about what he would be living with his parents, he denys a lot..

Either his parents are those kind that should had no children but forgot to put condoms, or he is a very very problematic child (i doubt that)

He saids he has professional help and stuff like that (i won't speak about it if he do not)
well...

I think it's useless to give him advice though. He doesn'T want to help himself (in the gemstone topic). Help yourself and heaven will help you (or so they say)

Thursday, payday! come babbling later

[Vixen]

I couldnt go to my mother for anything when I was a teenager. I was an extreme introvert, and talking to ANYONE was hard for me.
But like someone mentioned before.. a journal actually does help. It doesnt replace things like social activity and getting out and meeting people.

But it IS a way to get all the negativity out. Sometimes, as in my case, you dont know how extreme and dangerous your feelings can be until they are there in front of you in black and white.

Now of course, my mother and I , though friends before, are as close as anything now, and she always comes to me for advice. Its funny how things change.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Tayre
Yet... like HarmNone, my mother already comes to me for help. It's weird.

Heh. Perhaps she is trying to let you know how much she respects you and what you have done for yourself. ;)

HarmNone knows there are more reasons for things than those which are most apparent

[Stunseed]

One of my biggest beliefs is that parents just don't understand.....sometimes. I know I've a few friends that I hope I have helped for the better. Nothing like a good friend and an un-biased opinion.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Tayre
From the ages of about 11-14, I seriously considered suicide for a long time. I think my last episode ended with me with a knife to my wrist and my friend on the phone talking me out of it. It was scary.

Damn Friend

[Drew2]

That was a reall jackass thing to say.


That aside, it was funny.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Tayre
That was a reall jackass thing to say.
That aside, it was funny.

Well good, you won't mind my tag then.

[Parkbandit]

LOL.. I didn't get it at first..

I thought he meant like "Damn, friend" like he couldn't believe it and was calling Tayre a friend.

Heh.. I'm slow... but most girls like it that way.

[Drew2]

Uh... I didn't claim to draw energy from anyone.

But whatever floats your boat.

[Wezas]

Fixed it, must have misread your post through the tears of laughter.

[Drew2]

wtf is bravo by the way?

[GemstoneFan]

"Arts and Entertainment" channel on DirecTV/Cable

um..... also hosts "Queer Eye For the Straight Guy"

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Tayre
wtf is bravo by the way?

A liberal TV station that specializes in the more alternative lifestyles.

[Drew2]

This just in...


chica: you dont like Wezas?
me: nope
chica: bleh, I like him cos he reminds me of Tayre!

[Miss X]

Gah..... I dont just like him cos of that! He just reminds me of Tayre in some ways, messing around a lot etc. hehehe
Vx

[Drew2]

>

You hear the subdued thoughts of Warclaidhm echo in your mind:
"Fruitcake is my favorite"


Haaaa ok that was funny.

[Xcalibur]

He simply doesn't want, he says he won't try to change

What else can be done beside just continuing?

[LaVaca]

I never said that. I said I'm not going to re roll. If I do this I accept that I'll still have tons of enemies, but I'll take that. I'm changing in small steps

[Grandsome]

I'm going to kill myself but my Mood says VACA ES BIEN!

And it should be Esta. It's an emotion.

F!!
(See me after class.)

Mason

[Edited on 10-24-2003 by Grandsome]

[Weedmage Princess]

If you do what?

[Xcalibur]

It's like an alcoolic saying he will cure his addiction with removing 1/100 of a beer each week.

Sorry, i don't believe that

you either change, or you don't, there is no middle

[Syberus]

Originally posted by GemstoneFan
"Arts and Entertainment" channel on DirecTV/Cable

um..... also hosts "Queer Eye For the Straight Guy"

Oh shit that show is actually real? I saw the southpark just last night making fun of it and thought it was funny as hell... The crab people!

Syb

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Lady Daina

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Tayre
wtf is bravo by the way?

A liberal TV station that specializes in the more alternative lifestyles.

Wondering how it is that Wezas is so up to speed on Bravo. ::runs away cackling madly::

Gotta admit, I've seen a few minutes of those Queer eye shows. They're pretty funny. Gay guys making fun of how fast the straight guy shaves and shit like that. Amusing.

And I cought about 4 seconds of that Boy meets Boy show before I had to turn it. I don't see anything wrong with being gay, just not my mug of beer. (cup of tea sounded a bit...well.... gay)

[Back]

Gotta admit, I've seen a few minutes of those Queer eye shows. They're pretty funny. Gay guys making fun of how fast the straight guy shaves and shit like that. Amusing.

There should be a Straight Eye for the Queer Guy show. 7 straight guys set a gay guys straight.

What the fuck is that? You call that a shirt? Here, wear this old sweatshirt.

You've got way too much product in your hair.

Put the damn Cosmopolitain down. Bud-Lite!

Produce section? Cook? You cook with the phone. Dial a number and pizza is at the door!

[peam]

On topic.

[longshot]

Originally posted by LaVaca
I never said that. I said I'm not going to re roll. If I do this I accept that I'll still have tons of enemies, but I'll take that. I'm changing in small steps

You aren't changing shit...

And as park bandit mentioned, you're all out of cards as well.

GAME OVER!

[Grandsome]

I always tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, Warclaidhm. Despite hearing about you being constantly OOC, the scooter-crash-for-attention incident, scamming people, being a warn whore and an all around idiot, I thought that there had to be some decency in you. I looked and looked, I even tried pointing out to people of some of the good things you've done. Even 2 nights ago, I tried to talk to you over IM, but you acted like you were too good to talk to me. But with this last incident, well, I give up.

>Tone Ralph Wiggum
"YOU'RE A GRADE "A" MORON!"

You want attention, well congradulations, you have mine. And I'll be sure you know you have it.

You say you're going to change? Do it. None of this baby step shit. You need to turn a complete 180 right now, you need to grow up, you need to realize no one gives a fuck about you anymore and stop making these wild statements to get sympathy and attention. You might be getting attention, but it's not the kind you want, you're just gaining more enemies. Until you do change, you've dug your own grave, now lie down in it.

I really used to feel sorry for you ...no longer though.

Mason

[Xcalibur]

You hear the subdued thoughts of Warclaidhm echo in your mind:
"Selling the last of my locker contents, the very last stuff. Got a mystery backpack, with its own different description, inside I got some enchanted plate, a rare rift gem with/show (it might do some special stuff, no clue), a dagger, some ale, and a box found item. MB 100k"

HE WON'T CHANGE, GOT IT?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

LOL, now he's selling mystery items, go figure.

[GS4Gurl]

Originally posted by LaVaca
I never said that. I said I'm not going to re roll. If I do this I accept that I'll still have tons of enemies, but I'll take that. I'm changing in small steps

Warclaidhm, what your failing to understand is no matter how much you have the character change it will not matter because the reputation will stick with you FOREVER.

That is why people are suggesting that you start OVER. So to repeat changing "Warclaidhm" will do you NO GOOD whatsoever. Why? Because not everyone will be witnessing each of the "small" steps you supposedly change. Not everyone wakes up every day asking themselves, "Ohh which thing did the Warputzhm change today? Cus I just can't wait to find out."

So say, you've matured, completely changed and etc. PersonX doesn't know this and you try to talk to him again, cus hey you're different now, right? Personx doesn't give two shits that you changed they still don't want anything to do with you and they say so. You inturn revert back to your ways and start whining thus putting you back into your old ways, which causes you to post on the boards... again whining, then everyone else who doesn't know about this "change" bring up why they hate you cus your a scamming, moron, idiot.

Okay do do you see the cycle here? Do you see that it would be pointless to continue as you are? If you still don't get it then you're more moronic than I thought.

[Edited on 10-25-2003 by GS4Gurl]

[Xcalibur]

With a stern look you pull your hooded cloak close and cross your arms, making it obvious you wish to be left alone.

thanks bro