Best Places to live

[theotherjohn]

Money magazine published a LIST (http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/)


I live at number 32 and find it very suprising

13 for me.

- Arkans

[Latrinsorm]

God I hate Greenwich. I've never heard of Tolland or Colchester (in CT anyway), but New Milford and Guilford can suck it too.

[Anebriated]

Was a contender but didnt make the cut apparently. I have to say though West Chester is a great town. I wouldn't have wanted to grow up anywhere else(aside from west coast).

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/snapshots/45581.html

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/snapshots/27733.html

edit: kind of lived right in between these two towns(5 minute drive either way tops).

[Edited on 7-12-2005 by Elrodin]

[Betheny]

lol I lived in Vienna.

It was shitty.

[Alarke]

Wow... Apparently I live in the 3rd nicest spot to raise a family! I'd say the town is well above average, but if this is #3, i'll be disappointed. Only reason i'll spend my life here is because of Chicago.

[DeV]

Naperville, IL made #3 which is pretty surprising.
I'd figure Lake Forest over Naperville any day but they did make the top 10 as far as biggest earners.

I'm going to rag on my friend now who's always been very modest and humble despite where she was born and raised (Lake Forest). Her dad is a Dentist who's run a successful practice out of his basement for years and I've always admired him for his hard work.

[Janarth]

I grew up in Barrington, #6, not too too surprised. But...Barrington is a dry town (only two restaurants have full liquor licenses) and that kinda sucks...

Surprised Darien didn't make the list but Greenwich was up there, Darien is nicer, smaller, richer per capita I do believe.

[CrystalTears]

Wow, New London and Groton aren't even on there. :(

[theotherjohn]

I lived in Naperville for about 2 years. I loved it.

I miss all the fall festivals

[Sean]

What was the critera to decide. I've lived in NJ for 21 years and never heard of Moorestown. Well not true, I know it only because a lot of people confuse it with Morristown.

[Jolena]

My folks live in Overland Park, MO and we lived there for a few years. It made #30. I love my parent's neighborhood. :heart:

[Trinitis]

My town is not even in the list under my state. I feel slighted :(

[Warriorbird]

100 best suburbs in America.

:grins:

[Jenisi]

I've been to New London/Groton and it was very very nice.

[SnatchWrangler]

I'm a town away from #9, Chatham. Nice enough place, although I don't see it being all that distinctive from the half dozen towns around it.

Moorestown is a really nice place, I had a couple friends that went to Villanova from there.

[Valthissa]

odd criteria if you ask me:

"Money magazine and CNN/Money teamed with data researchers at OnBoard to research the Best Places to Live for 2005.

OnBoard maintains a database of nearly 40,000 cities. To narrow our search, we began by considering only those with population above 14,000, above-median household income, population growth and real estate appreciation over the past 5 years.

Those restrictions led to a list of 1,321 places.


From there, we eliminated places that aren't within 60 miles of a major airport and 30 miles of a major teaching hospital"

some people would consider living in place with above average popultion growth to be a negative factor.

C/Valth

[Latrinsorm]

That's why I :heart: Valthissa.

Also, I checked up on my town, and 81º isn't anywhere near the hottest day during July.

[Wezas]

I lived in #4 for a while, currently still live about 5 minutes from there.

Average home price $510,987

Yeah, that's the reason I didn't buy a house there :no:

[Hips]

Boooo Greenwich. :heart: Fairfield.

[Soulpieced]

I used to live 1 city away from Lake Forest, so I'm biased... HP is so much nicer :D

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Valthissa

some people would consider living in place with above average popultion growth to be a negative factor.

C/Valth

People who think land value growth is a bad thing, I guess.

It shows there is a demand to live there if both the annual income there is high and there is growth.

[Snapp]

Only one town in Delaware even made it to the finalist list (#59).. and it's snobsville. Only the richest can even think of living there.

[Alarke]

It's funny... when i think of nice cities in the Chicagoland area, Naperville would be... nowhere near the top. I'd take a city like Evanston or Winnetka over those any day. A nice little city on the north shore with lake Michigan as my backyard? yes please.

[Valthissa]

Originally posted by Hulkein

Originally posted by Valthissa

some people would consider living in place with above average popultion growth to be a negative factor.

C/Valth


People who think land value growth is a bad thing, I guess.

It shows there is a demand to live there if both the annual income there is high and there is growth.

You are slightly confused.

Basic law of supply and demand.

You cannot say that given two situations:

1) area with high income and high growth

2) area with high income and low growth

that 1 has higher land value growth than 2 - the opposite is true.

C/Valth

[ElanthianSiren]

King of Prussia was a contender. I'm interested to know how they choose the cuts also; other than auto insurance, it seems like its other categories are above their average.

-M

[Soulpieced]

I don't know so much about Evanston Alarke, but everyone who lived in Winnetka/Wilmette (people who probably went to New Trier) were mad $$$$.

[Jenisi]

How do you figure out the average price for a home in a city???

[DeV]

Originally posted by Alarke
It's funny... when i think of nice cities in the Chicagoland area, Naperville would be... nowhere near the top. I'd take a city like Evanston or Winnetka over those any day. A nice little city on the north shore with lake Michigan as my backyard? yes please. I'll second that.

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Valthissa
You are slightly confused.

Basic law of supply and demand.

You cannot say that given two situations:

1) area with high income and high growth

2) area with high income and low growth

that 1 has higher land value growth than 2 - the opposite is true.

C/Valth

No, myself and CNN Money are not confused.

If there is population growth in an area where there is above average income and previous land value appreciation (which are both parameters in this thing), then it is a good thing. This means people with money are continuing to move in.

That means that supply and demand will cause land value to continue to rise.

So I'll say it again, if land value appreciation is something you dislike in a place where people are eager to relocate to, then hey, you're right.

How do you think areas with high land value and no growth get there? It's not like they just appear... the place becomes appealing and people with money move in until there isn't anymore land for expansion.

[Edited on 7-12-2005 by Hulkein]

[DeV]

Originally posted by Soulpieced
I used to live 1 city away from Lake Forest, so I'm biased... HP is so much nicer :D Very biased I see. :saint:

[AnticorRifling]

24. Fishers, IN

Yeah that's me. Corn fields and all w00t w00t.

[Artha]

68 Chino Hills, CA
I'm surprised. If you fuck up there, you get taken to the desert. AND THINGS HAPPEN IN THE DESERT.

[Sean]

Originally posted by Snapp
Only one town in Delaware even made it to the finalist list (#59).. and it's snobsville. Only the richest can even think of living there.

Further proof that NJ > Deleware.

[Valthissa]

Originally posted by Hulkein

Originally posted by Valthissa
You are slightly confused.

Basic law of supply and demand.

You cannot say that given two situations:

1) area with high income and high growth

2) area with high income and low growth

that 1 has higher land value growth than 2 - the opposite is true.

C/Valth

No, myself and CNN Money are not confused.

If there is population growth in an area where there is above average income and previous land value appreciation (which are both parameters in this thing), then it is a good thing. This means people with money are continuing to move in.

That means that supply and demand will cause land value to continue to rise.

So I'll say it again, if land value appreciation is something you dislike in a place where people are eager to relocate to, then hey, you're right.

How do you think areas with high land value and no growth get there? It's not like they just appear... the place becomes appealing and people with money move in until there isn't anymore land for expansion.

[Edited on 7-12-2005 by Hulkein]

I think we sort of agree (and you concede my point in your response).

Which land is more valuable and rising faster:

1) exclusive Georgetown neighborhood in DC. No homes can be built, demand is high, and income is high.

2) Stafford county. Lots of new construction, demand is high, income is high

I agree with this part of your post - "until there isn't anymore land for expansion." That's something you added from the previous post. That would the reason for low (or no) growth in the example I posted above.

The 'anymore land for expansion' can be artificially restricted by zoning and other means.

So my position is:

Many people would desire to move into an area where the community is stable and there is no population growth and where there exist many favorable externalities. The CNN/Money method of defining best places to live may (as I don't how much of a factor population growth plays) leave out locations that people find very desirble - Pebble Beach as an example.

C/Valth

[TheRoseLady]

#18 is close by. My city in particular was a contender but didn't make the cut.

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Valthissa
Many people would desire to move into an area where the community is stable and there is no population growth and where there exist many favorable externalities. The CNN/Money method of defining best places to live may (as I don't how much of a factor population growth plays) leave out locations that people find very desirble - Pebble Beach as an example.

C/Valth

I see what you mean in terms of their list...

I only was responding to your sentence that said - "some people would consider living in place with above average popultion growth to be a negative factor." - That isn't exactly the same as saying 'there are good places to live that don't have population growth,' which I know you've said now, and I agree with.

[Nauriel]

my hometown made the contenders list fo florida, but didnt make the finalists..:)

[MaryJane]

I heard last years that the town with the schoolbus derby made the cut.

[HouseofElves]

My town was a contender, think this is why we didn't win

Housing City Stats Best places

Average home price $928,946
Average for Best Places $316,665

And there is a lot of old people, no one likes that.