MoveOn.org Hosts say that members are "regular folks"

[Atlanteax]

I wonder if the Host said "We don't want to come across as leftist, liberal activists. We want to come across as we are- regular folks who are finally saying enough is enough to the extremists" with a straight face. :lol:

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http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm

REVEALED: INSIDE A MOVEON SUPREME COURT HOUSE PARTY; TAKE 'BUSH LIAR' T-SHIRTS OFF
Sun Jul 10 2005 20:29:27 ET
**Exclusive**

Over the weekend, the liberal activist group MOVEON.ORG hosted over house parties across the nation to stop President Bush from nominating a “radical right judge” -- and the DRUDGE REPORT obtained an exclusive invite to one of their hottest parties!

Charles Fazio of Alexandria, VA was the host of one of the most widely attended MOVEON parties in the Washington, DC area. The DRUDGE REPORT has learned because of Fazio’s registration success, his party was chosen to be a finalist on the WASHINGTON POST’s list of house party events the paper would cover.

In a desperate bid to sanitize his gathering and control how its attendees would be perceived by the POST, the MOVEON host emailed talking points to his guests. A copy of those talking points was obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT.

Fazio warned his guests: “Its very important that if you talk to the reporter, you stay on message. Remember, it is quite possible that our event will be the one the POST uses to represent the entire MoveOnPac effort this weekend.”

The key message for the event: “The momentum is finally shifting away from extremism. We will not accept a extremist nominee. This is not about conservatism vs liberalism or Republicans vs Democrats, this is all about extremism vs moderation and we're on the side of moderation.”

The MOVEON host reminded his guests: “We don't want to come across as leftist, liberal activists. We want to come across as we are- regular folks who are finally saying enough is enough to the extremists; that we're not falling for their extremist rhetoric anymore and we're finally going to expend the effort necessary to get our country back.”

Fazio: “Please stay on message and just know that ANYTHING you say can be taken out of context and used against the effort.”

One last suggestion from Fazio to his liberal MOVEON party-goers: “Oh, because a photographer will be here, might I suggest we put away our ‘Bush is a Liar’ t-shirts. Let's look like they do.”

[Warriorbird]

Err... they generally are regular folks. Often boring. I think the same could be said of readers of the Drudge report, to be honest.

[Edited on 7-11-2005 by Warriorbird]

[DeV]

Sounds like some sensible advise to me.

[Wezas]

Would they be happier if Bush was not such an extremist? Probably.

I put about as much faith in moveon.org as I do in Drudge.

[Apotheosis]

if by "regular folks" you mean insane fanatics, paranoid schizophrenics, then ok I believe that.

[Edited on 7-11-2005 by Yswithe]

[Gan]

Thats just too funny with the "lets try and be normal" preparation. Why cant they just be themselves and still get their message across? :whistle:

And the T shirts really crack me up.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Yswithe
if by "regular folks" you mean insane fanatics, paranoid schizophrenics, then ok I believe that.

[Edited on 7-11-2005 by Yswithe]

I'm on the mailing list and I don't consider myself any of those things named.

[Atlanteax]

Originally posted by Ganalon
Thats just too funny with the "lets try and be normal" preparation. Why cant they just be themselves and still get their message across? :whistle:

And the T shirts really crack me up.

Seems like the MoveOn organizers know that they'd only be laughed at if they were "just themselves" and everyone wore that Tshirt in front of the news camera.

[DeV]

It also doesn't help to get their actual point across if they're behaving the way many view their ideology to be... extreme. If they want to be taken seriously, which I know that many feel is IMPOSSIBLE and will NEVER HAPPEN, granted.... they still need to at least attempt to revamp their image.

[Wezas]

Just like Drudge and so many of the bias sites on both sides of the spectrum - they would improve their image so much by just taking down the "Anti-(whoever)" t-shirt and mug banner ads.

[Hulkein]

They're taking a page out of Hillary Clinton's book.

Man, MoveOn and them Clintons, just can't get enough of eachother.

[Sean]

I know when I generally goto a business meeting or somewhere I want people to take me more seriously and blend in with the enviornment I wear a suit or atleast a tie ... I can't say wearing a tie is something I would consider being myself. Anyway, dressing and acting the part in an attempt to be taken seriously isn't a bad thing in my opinion.

[Warriorbird]

Indeed. We know people who read the Drudge report sometimes wear really ugly yellow ties. I bet they don't when talking in front of important higher level employees, however...at least when they know about it beforehand. I bet they dress up.

[Edited on 7-11-2005 by Warriorbird]

[Hulkein]

That joke failed.

[Warriorbird]

Well... the inspiration was pretty derivative.

It ended up nearly as bad as a gratuitious Clinton reference.

[Edited on 7-11-2005 by Warriorbird]

[Atlanteax]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
Well... the inspiration was pretty derivative.

Or defensive...

[Warriorbird]

I don't wear pale lavender in public.

I guess the declaration of fairly tame Democratic organizations as extremists just seems silly to me. Trust me, having gone to college where I did, I've seen liberal extremists. They're REALLY scary. The type of people that make me out as a "tool of the patriarchy" or "racist" or "unwilling to support the revolution"(I'm serious on that last). Those are liberal extremists.

I guess it just proves Republicans are exceedingly good at "framing the debate." Democrats need to get better.

It'd be nice to be able to declare the "Internet Republicans" extremists in return, but y'all aren't. If you're not making a couple hundred grand already and you're a Republican, you're a dupe. You have to be either religiously insane or extremely wealthy to qualify as a real Republican extremist. It could work for someone, then. Otherwise you're just being used.

[Edited on 7-11-2005 by Warriorbird]

[Hulkein]

What I said about Clinton actually makes sense. Both her and MoveOn (apparently, from this story) are on the move to seem more moderate in hopes to further their own not so moderate agenda down the road.

It wasn't a joke, it's the truth.

[Edited on 7-11-2005 by Hulkein]

[Warriorbird]

Eh? As far as I can tell, Hillary's recently been on the attack. I don't think that usually comes across as moderate unifying. I seriously hope she doesn't get nominated. Y'all will win versus her.

[Artha]

I'm on the mailing list and I don't consider myself any of those things named.
Denial's not just a river in Egypt :no:

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Artha

Denial's not just a river in Egypt :no:

:die:

Originally posted by Warriorbird


I guess it just proves Republicans are exceedingly good at "framing the debate." Democrats need to get better.


or perhaps its not. Maybe the republicans are not so good at "framing the debat." Maybe groups like moveon.org (who put out things like bush is Hitler adds) really are extremists.

Edit: The Clintons and Move on are bedfellows, they were involved in its creation if I remember correctly when they first came out.

[Edited on 7-12-2005 by Dave]

[Warriorbird]

Actually, you need to straighten out your hysterical rantings (see, I can play that too!), Meester dupe. Howard Dean was the primary political force (Howard Dean, OMG!) behind the creation of moveon.org.

I stand corrected. :)

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[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Backlash
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Heh, Backlash must be having a bad day.

[Edited on 7/12/2005 by CrystalTears]

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MoveOn.org are not crazy like Karl Rove wants you to think.　Ｔｈｅy are normal people.

[Nieninque]

I reckon he is on the runway and the funny characters are where he is ducking to avoid the planes flying over his head.

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[Atlanteax]

Originally posted by Skirmisher

Originally posted by Artha

Denial's not just a river in Egypt :no:

:die:

:lol: He's right, you know? :fish:

[Hulkein]

While the Clintons weren't the ones creating MoveOn, it's name is referring to the scandal about Clinton with Lewinski.

The name MoveOn mean move on from the perjury/lying thing Clinton committed, and get to other things in the country.

[Warriorbird]

And lo, they did.

[Gan]

More accurately the goal of moveon.org was to petition for a censure instead of impeachment.

Interesting history of moveon.org.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moveon.org

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
And lo, they did.

If that site was never created we'd probably STILL be talking about the Clinton/Lewinski scandal...

[Warriorbird]

Knowing you? Yeah.

[Hulkein]

If anything MoveOn would make be talk about it more.

Plus I wasn't really into politics at all back then, I didn't care either way.

I'm only 21.

[Warriorbird]

I'm sorry.