My job, in regards to those that question.

no more need for it to be up.

[Edited on 7-12-2005 by Dave]

[AnticorRifling]

You're a POG. You can hope to be high speed low drag but in the end you're a POG. All the cool shit and fun things I did and at the end of the day I was still a POG. You'll come to terms with this and eventually stop thinking you're doing the dangerous stuff.

Also;

That there is the job I was trained to do, some things I deal with, others I do not at this point in my career. I currently hold what is called a 20level position of the job, which in the end just means I am in charge and hold more responsibility, due to the fact that i have so far proven myself to my superiors, even though others under me carry more on their collar than I do.

That means your superiors are fucking retarded. No way in hell a a nonrate would ever be allowed to open his suck to give me, an NCO, orders. Fuck no. Hell no. Shit no.

[4a6c1]

We know, we know, you are elite ninja spook of awesomeness.

;)

Anitcor, I am a POG, but I run with the grunts, shoot with the grunts and kick in doors with the grunts. Once I get my desk job I will regress to the fact that I am a POG, though here every day I am reminded that I am a Cavalry Scout.

As to those under me, they are E-4's. not NCO's, so still just Joes.
There is a lack of E-5's willing to transfer into the type of unit that I am in because of the dangers, and enough positions open elsewhere that they cant be forced in.

[DeV]

Isn't RangerD's job similiar if not the same?

[xtc]

I mean no disrespect but from what I can surmise from your post the intelligence you are responsible for is limited to combat situations which you currently aren't in. As such it looks like your information on Al Qaida wouldn't exceed mine.

FYI cool job

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by DeV
Isn't RangerD's job similiar if not the same?

nope he is a straight killer

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by DeV
Isn't RangerD's job similiar if not the same?

No. He's actually been to war.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling

Originally posted by DeV
Isn't RangerD's job similiar if not the same?

No. He's actually been to war.

you talk smack all the time big guy?

How many combat stripes do you have?

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by Dave
Anitcor, I am a POG, but I run with the grunts, shoot with the grunts and kick in doors with the grunts. Once I get my desk job I will regress to the fact that I am a POG, though here every day I am reminded that I am a Cavalry Scout.

As to those under me, they are E-4's. not NCO's, so still just Joes.
There is a lack of E-5's willing to transfer into the type of unit that I am in because of the dangers, and enough positions open elsewhere that they cant be forced in.

E-4s are NCO's and they are still E-4s and you're an E-3 as such I'd throw you a nasty eat shit and die followed by something looking like a fist only bigger. No way does shit roll up hill, ever.

And again you kick in doors at a training facility. So did I. I also went to the field, went to Cuba, went to the desert. Etc, etc. and you know what? I wasn't cannon fodder. That's grunts, whom I have the utmost respect. They are the fighters even if I am trained as one. Why? That's their main job their first MOS all they know. You get a taste and it's a notch in your belt maybe but it's going to be secondary to being a data dink. Sorry.

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by AnticorRifling

Originally posted by DeV
Isn't RangerD's job similiar if not the same?

No. He's actually been to war.

you talk smack all the time big guy?

How many combat stripes do you have?

None. I don't hide it. I wasn't allowed to go.

I was saying that RangerD has been to war.

[Caiylania]

What his job is or not, it was Nien's comment that upset me.

I think every job in the military is important, from the cooks to the generals. As long as they do it well. :)

Originally posted by AnticorRifling

Originally posted by DeV
Isn't RangerD's job similiar if not the same?

No. He's actually been to war.

RangerD is in a parallel unit in a different brigade that and he has been deployed already. He would be in a position to control the movement of the units on the ground, including me when dismounted. I am not combat arms, but moonlight as one when needed. Scouts don’t roll 12 deep on a stryker as the infantry do, we have a lot less manpower so every last person is needed whenever trouble is met.

[DeV]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling

Originally posted by DeV
Isn't RangerD's job similiar if not the same?

No. He's actually been to war. Heh, sho 'nuff.

It's a cool looking job description.

[OreoElf]

Originally posted by Caiylania
What his job is or not, it was Nien's comment that upset me.

I think every job in the military is important, from the cooks to the generals. As long as they do it well. :)

I agree with that... completely. Though I hate to agree with toj. I don't expect much from Nien... this is par for her...

[Edited on 7-7-2005 by OreoElf]

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Caiylania
What his job is or not, it was Nien's comment that upset me.

I think every job in the military is important, from the cooks to the generals. As long as they do it well. :)

As do I.
I dont disrespect people for their jobs.
Dave talks like he is a five star general when he has only been in the army five minutes.

I'm sorry you dont like that way I presented it.

I respect:
RangerD
Anticor
Stealth
Lyonis
Most of my family

for the stuff they have done in terms of serving in the armed forces.

I respect them more for the fact that they dont pretend they do lunch with the President and know his intimate secrets.

Dave is a prick.

Edited to spell "the" correctly.

[Edited on 7-7-05 by Nieninque]

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by OreoElf

Originally posted by Caiylania
What his job is or not, it was Nien's comment that upset me.

I think every job in the military is important, from the cooks to the generals. As long as they do it well. :)

I agree with that... completely. Though I hate to agree with toj. I don't expect much from Nien... this is par for her...

[Edited on 7-7-2005 by OreoElf]

OH NOEZ...some fucking nobody doesnt expect much from me. My life is so empty now.

:jerkit:

[DeV]

I got it Nien, which is why I didn't find the comment to be that disrespectful, more like a very low blow. I mean seriously now, he's dropped the c-bomb on her how many times and she takes it and gives it right back.

[AnticorRifling]

Also, since RangerD1 is reading this, he is a muffin.

Originally posted by AnticorRifling

Originally posted by Dave
Anitcor, I am a POG, but I run with the grunts, shoot with the grunts and kick in doors with the grunts. Once I get my desk job I will regress to the fact that I am a POG, though here every day I am reminded that I am a Cavalry Scout.

As to those under me, they are E-4's. not NCO's, so still just Joes.
There is a lack of E-5's willing to transfer into the type of unit that I am in because of the dangers, and enough positions open elsewhere that they cant be forced in.

E-4s are NCO's and they are still E-4s and you're an E-3 as such I'd throw you a nasty eat shit and die followed by something looking like a fist only bigger. No way does shit roll up hill, ever.

And again you kick in doors at a training facility. So did I. I also went to the field, went to Cuba, went to the desert. Etc, etc. and you know what? I wasn't cannon fodder. That's grunts, whom I have the utmost respect. They are the fighters even if I am trained as one. Why? That's their main job their first MOS all they know. You get a taste and it's a notch in your belt maybe but it's going to be secondary to being a data dink. Sorry.

I don’t deny that I am first a POG, but as the SBCT is structured for the Recon elements, I do the same job as they do, plus some. That was one of the things that RangerD informed me of before I went into the job, and something I knew when I requested to have my assignment changed to Fort Lewis and ended up in a SBCT.

Heh, for the record I'm in 2\14 cav while dave is in 1\14 cav the unit we replaced in Iraq. When 1\14 was here they had their 97b's out with the scouts, but our unit sucked em up to brigade where they did such lovely shit as chow hall guard and other misc tasks.

I'm also an e-4, only bcuz I told the SGM I didn't want to be an NCO, bcuz most of em in the unit were jacked up..in the promotion board. So, I'll never make e-5 in this unit, unless this automatic e-5 promotion thing kicks in. Which will by far be the funniest thing ever, even better than the aforementioned board and my drunk on duty thing.

I'm also very tired so this post may or may not make sense.

Originally posted by DeV
I got it Nien, which is why I didn't find the comment to be that disrespectful, more like a very low blow. I mean seriously now, he's dropped the c-bomb on her how many times and she takes it and gives it right back.
Only two or three times. :)

p.s. Fuck you cupcake

Originally posted by RangerD1
Heh, for the record I'm in 214 cav while dave is in 114 cav the unit we replaced in Iraq. When 114 was here they had their 97b's out with the scouts, but our unit sucked em up to brigade where they did such lovely shit as chow hall guard and other misc tasks.

I'm also an e-4, only bcuz I told the SGM I didn't want to be an NCO, bcuz most of em in the unit were jacked up..in the promotion board. So, I'll never make e-5 in this unit, unless this automatic e-5 promotion thing kicks in. Which will by far be the funniest thing ever, even better than the aforementioned board and my drunk on duty thing.

I'm also very tired so this post may or may not make sense.

Translation. In his unit when they deployed the command decided to pull the CI guys and have them do guard duty.

My unit uses them as they were ment to be used, somewhat, but not worth getting into the politics of it.
RangerD1 lemmie know how that autopromotion thing goes, as long as your still not flagged... ill be calling you sergeant when you get back

[4a6c1]

Instead of Sir, I think everyone in the military should respond to ranking officers with cupcake. Funnier. :yes:

[AnticorRifling]

HAHA That made my day! I almost don't mind the fact that I have another hour's worth of work to knockout now.

[Gan]

I'd like to see everyone represent themselves for what they are/do, not what they'd like everyone else to think they are or what they've done.

But being how this is the internet I dont suppose that would happen. :rolleyes:

[OreoElf]

Originally posted by Nieninque

Originally posted by Caiylania
What his job is or not, it was Nien's comment that upset me.

I think every job in the military is important, from the cooks to the generals. As long as they do it well. :)

As do I.
I dont disrespect people for their jobs.
Dave talks like he is a five star general when he has only been in the army five minutes.

I'm sorry you dont like that way I presented it.

I respect:
RangerD
Anticor
Stealth
Lyonis
Most of my family

for the stuff they have done in terms of serving in the armed forces.

I respect them more for the fact that they dont pretend they do lunch with the President and know his intimate secrets.

Dave is a prick.

Edited to spell "the" correctly.

[Edited on 7-7-05 by Nieninque]


Perhaps I stand corrected then. I don't know Dave enough either way... I was just surprised when we were all talking about trajedy and this came up.

[OreoElf]

Originally posted by Ganalon
I'd like to see everyone represent themselves for what they are/do, not what they'd like everyone else to think they are or what they've done.

But being how this is the internet I dont suppose that would happen. :rolleyes:


Too true.. not just on the internet. People that misrepresent themselves often have too low self esteem to like themselves for who and what they are. I've done what I hate... and done what I love in turns in life... neither being great nor status seeking jobs. I think I am happy with who I am... I wish everyone could be too...

To quote Foamy the Squirrel "IF you're naturally thin... or a fat bastard be happy being a fat bastard... etc" This goes for jobs too...


Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
Instead of Sir, I think everyone in the military should respond to ranking officers with cupcake. Funnier. :yes:

LOL ok that made me snort laugh so hard I got the hiccups.

[Gan]

My sentiment goes for those who are military and for those who arent. I'm not singling out one group. Folks need to quit with this illusion they portray that they're a 'killer' and some joe stud rambo with a 12" K-bar between their teeth pistol gripping some chain gun surrounded by bad guys when in fact they're just some private gassing up transports for the motor pool. Stay on the level and you'll earn lots more respect.

Same goes for the civillians who try to make the illusion that they're all PIMP or Gangster. Give it up. Just be normal and you'll fit in. Quit trying to be all SeanyWestsideBallinVanillaIceWannaBe. Just say NO.

What you do is what you do, live it, talk it and folks wont call you on it, as long as you're not ashamed of it others wont be either.

I do my time in the motor pool just like everyone else. I never said otherwise. I've never killed anyone either, nor do I own a 12inch K-bar, 6 inch gurber though yes. I do what is required of me, as most people in the military, and their civilian jobs do. Its also a mistake to assume you know what it is people do, and dont do in life, on the same par with what botheres you.

[Gan]

This was more a vent than anything. No specific direction was given to it, and although Dave and I have a colorful past; I respect some of the things he's done to further himself. He's gotten off his ass and out from under his parents roof to contribute. I respect that if nothing else.

If someone is angered by my post then I must have hit a nerve. Perhaps a little introspection is required to see why the anger is felt. For that no apologies are given.

With that said I'll only apologize for derailing the thread. I merely felt a rant and saw this as a likely home.

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by Dave
Its also a mistake to assume you know what it is people do, and dont do in life, on the same par with what botheres you.

:wtf:

Dave - do you realize that more often than not you say things that apparently only you understand? :spaz:

[Gan]

You [Dave] also get 50 points for being Republican.

[Edited on 7-8-2005 by Ganalon]

Not a nerve, as much as it was posted in a thread about my job, and fairly specific towards military. Though your intention may not have been to direct it at me, by default it was, considering the topic at hand, so I responded to your rant.

TRL ill put it in simple terms for you. It is a mistake to think that you know what others have or have not done in their lives. A mistake that is equal to that of the people who embellish their accomplishments.

TRL, I am starting to think you have a thing for me. Always searching out my posts and commenting in an insulting manner, much like Nien.

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by Dave
Not a nerve, as much as it was posted in a thread about my job, and fairly specific towards military. Though your intention may not have been to direct it at me, by default it was, considering the topic at hand, so I responded to your rant.

TRL ill put it in simple terms for you. It is a mistake to think that you know what others have or have not done in their lives. A mistake that is equal to that of the people who embellish their accomplishments.

TRL, I am starting to think you have a thing for me. Always searching out my posts and commenting in an insulting manner, much like Nien.

Dave - I am married.

Second, no I don't search you out. Think about the number of run-ins you have had on these boards. Think of the sheer number of posts you have had just today and how many I have responded to, ONE. Perhaps you should learn how to handle the attention you bring upon yourself, Dave. Perhaps you might consider that you are accountable for the things you say on these boards, and often times they make little to no sense to me.

You can't have it both ways Dave. Either post and accept what comes in response, or STFU. Stop crying like a little nancy - with this everyone is trolling me bullshit.

(I have three people who regularly IM me about some of the inane things you say on these boards.) You're the only one who garners that much attention, I don't consider that a compliment.

And...about your job, honestly I never really questioned what you do.

I'm just saying I think you have a thing for me like Nien.

It's okay to admit, I mean im not the best, but im a decent looking guy. ;)

Kinda like the playground, pick on the guy/girl you like.

[Edited on 7-8-2005 by Dave]

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Dave

TRL, I am starting to think you have a thing for me. Always searching out my posts and commenting in an insulting manner, much like Nien.

Youre a fucking wanker.

I responded twice to your scumbag posts in the thread about the terrorist attack.

One where you said you would get some of the terrorists back for [those that were killed] (that was deleted)

The second where you act llike a condescending knob who knows something, when actually you know fuck all.

If you didnt keep spouting shit where it isnt necessary/welcome/etc I wouldnt respond to your inane babblings at all.

Do us a favour and fuck right off.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Dave
I'm just saying I think you have a thing for me like Nien.

It's okay to admit, I mean im not the best, but im a decent looking guy. ;)

Kinda like the playground, pick on the guy/girl you like.

[Edited on 7-8-2005 by Dave]

Actually...its more like pick on the special needs kids because it's easy

[Edaarin]

I found a potato chip today in a stack of Pringles that was misshapen.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Dave

It's okay to admit, I mean im not the best, but im a decent looking guy. ;)



Actually, from the photo you are using as your avatar, I would say I'm not your type....missing the meat and two veg ;)

[Terminator X]

Originally posted by Edaarin
I found a potato chip today in a stack of Pringles that was misshapen.
u mean like just broken up into a funny shape and what not, or like the potato chip mold used to make the chips got something funky goin on with it?

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Nieninque

Actually...its more like pick on the special needs kids because it's easy

You realize you just pwned yourself worse than you could Dave.

Let it go already.

You jumped on someone in the thread about the rumor that the UK had prior warning to this attack and said how it was so low of them to talk that way before the dust had even settled.

I found that odd as it seems to me all this may not be that important to you. After all, you found all the time and energy to carry on with your diatribe against Dave in so many posts today.

Staff tried to keep the thread on topic but you had to be you and show just how clever with words you are and do your best to pwn Dave yet again.

So in the end, the one who derailed the thread relating to the topic you professed to be so dear to you. was you.

Think about that while you watch the news or read the paper tomorrow.

[Xcalibur]

Dave is cool and is among the few that I'd pay a beer and discuss why humanity is, in fact, just something over animals.

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
Dave is cool and is among the few that I'd pay a beer and discuss why humanity is, in fact, just something over animals.

You know, I can really see how you would think you have something in common with Dave.

[Shalla]

These pretzels are making me thirsty.

[Gan]

Xcalibur is enough to make any beer go flat. Even though I'm not Dave, I wouldnt offer to buy nor accept an offer by you to buy beer and engage in a conversation where all you would likely do is dominate the conversation with nothing but your odd inane ideals, and further your enjoyment of hearing yourself speak.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Ganalon
Xcalibur is enough to make any beer go flat. Even though I'm not Dave, I wouldnt offer to buy nor accept an offer by you to buy beer and engage in a conversation where all you would likely do is dominate the conversation with nothing but your odd inane ideals, and further your enjoyment of hearing yourself speak.

I'd buy Dave a beer. I'd break Xcalidumb's fingers.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Skirmisher

You jumped on someone in the thread about the rumor that the UK had prior warning to this attack and said how it was so low of them to talk that way before the dust had even settled.

I found that odd as it seems to me all this may not be that important to you.

Fuck off Skirmisher. As if you can tell that I dont care about terrorist attacks on the basis of 5 posts to dickhead. Take your head out of your arse.


After all, you found all the time and energy to carry on with your diatribe against Dave in so many posts today.

About 5, I would say. So much time and energy :rolleyes:


Staff tried to keep the thread on topic but you had to be you and show just how clever with words you are and do your best to pwn Dave yet again.

Geez...you really are talking shit now.
Please forgive me for not realising I am not allowed to challenge anything that tosser posts. I bow down to your condescendingness and all-seeingness. Please forgive me oh great one.

Oh, and please dont assume you have the first fucking clue about how I feel about things.


So in the end, the one who derailed the thread relating to the topic you professed to be so dear to you. was you.

Think about that while you watch the news or read the paper tomorrow.

No. Actually you need to learn to read. Long before I posted that Dave is a dickhead, HE WAS BEING A DICKHEAD.

not that you would see that, because you would have to remove your head from your arse to be able to do so.

[Skirmisher]

Okie dokie.

[Artha]

Maybe if your head wasn't up your ass, you'd say something like, "He's being a tosser! Now do I make the situation worse, or do I leave it alone?"

[Shalla]

This thread is dave appreciation post right? is bad mouthing him off topic? :lol:

[HarmNone]

Actually, this thread is a Dave-originated thread, the title of which doesn't speak to the issue of appreciation, or lack of same. Whether to bash or praise is up to the individual poster.

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by HarmNone
Actually, this thread is a Dave-originated thread, the title of which doesn't speak to the issue of appreciation, or lack of same. Whether to bash or praise is up to the individual poster.

Sometimes you just make me laugh HN. You post some things so matter of factly, they are not at all offensive - just rather balanced. :lol:

[HarmNone]

Sometimes, I just can't resist. I really try. I do. However, the devil that lives inside me is restless and crafty. Once in awhile, it escapes. :D

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
Dave is cool and is among the few that I'd pay a beer and discuss why humanity is, in fact, just something over animals.

X seems like a good guy sometimes.

[Wezas]

I liked Edine better.

:whocares:

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

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[longshot]

Originally posted by Dave

There is a lack of E-5's willing to transfer into the type of unit that I am in because of the dangers, and enough positions open elsewhere that they cant be forced in.


Originally posted by Dave

Scouts don’t roll 12 deep on a stryker as the infantry do, we have a lot less manpower so every last person is needed whenever trouble is met.

Edine/Dave,

Don't you think it's possible that they tell you this just so you will feel a special imprtance to your job/mission/position?

I'm sure they tell the cook of the logistical importance of providing thousands of needed calories to fuel the bodies of the finest fighting machine ever assembled... but in reality, he's fucking stirring pasta sauce.

Do you feel me on this one?

I'm not sure if you're buying the military's bullshit, or trumping up your own meager responsibilities, or a little of both...

But you've been there for all of five minutes.

Gimme a fucking break.

Not being in the position, or holding the responsibilities I can’t expect you to understand. My job is to gather the information that will keep my fellow soldiers alive. Be it from post raid interrogations or other sources of information. The RSTA is a new type of unit, which was started with 3rd brigade 1-14 cav when they deployed in 2003. If you want to do some research about it feel free longshot.

[Kyra]

Originally posted by Dave
It's okay to admit, I mean im not the best, but im a decent looking guy. ;)

Kinda like the playground, pick on the guy/girl you like.

[Edited on 7-8-2005 by Dave]

:break: :asshole: :puke:

Why don't you go find some rambo/armyboy board to post all your rah rah I'm the man GI b.s. on? Oh wait, then you couldn't feel "special" because you're "in the know" about military "stuff" that us civillians aren't. :tool:

K.

This coming from the cool girl or whatever you are.. thang.. that touches up birds. Right.

- Arkans

[CrystalTears]

I hate being right sometimes.

Dave, why is it that you seem to be the only one presently in the military who needs to give us a blow by blow (no pun intended) of your jobs and 5k1||5? Shouldn't it be done on a need to know basis, since most of us.. don't really need to know? Or are you trying to make yourself seem more important?

I like you as an individual, however this persona you're creating on these boards to self-improve somehow is probably what's getting under people's skins.

He takes a lot of pride in his job. Maybe a bit too much, maybe I'm a bit jaded from the military, who knows and who cares. He's proud in what he does, sees it as important, rather by fault or not, but still does. Don't like it? Don't read it.

Don't think that he's the only one like that though. There are pleanty of "Dave's" in the military and as long as they do their job well, then there is nothing wrong with their pride.

- Arkans

We used to fuck with our 97b's pretty hard. Some were cool some were douches, but it is true that alot of em don't want to be in a line unit.

It's of course understandable, you sign up for this cool high speed job with real world applications and they're all, "Here's your machine gun, let's go"

[HarmNone]

CT is right, not only for Dave, but for others who have come here, and still come here, to promote their own agendae.

I hate to break it to you, but most people here don't give a flying fig what you do...at least, they don't care about the details. For most folks, "I'm in the military", "I'm a programmer", or "I sell cars" will do nicely, and even those are usually only appropriate when information is requested. Even then, a blow-by-blow description of your duties isn't required, or even wanted.

Whether on a message board, or at a friendly gathering, too much information is too much information. Too much "me-talk" rarely makes the impression it's intended to make.

The topic here is very clear. If you don't give a fuck why do you read it? Just to get the taste of piss flavored beer and to troll? Seriously now.

- Arkans

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Arkans
He takes a lot of pride in his job. Maybe a bit too much, maybe I'm a bit jaded from the military, who knows and who cares. He's proud in what he does, sees it as important, rather by fault or not, but still does. Don't like it? Don't read it.

Don't think that he's the only one like that though. There are pleanty of "Dave's" in the military and as long as they do their job well, then there is nothing wrong with their pride.

- Arkans

A lot of people take pride in their jobs. I do. I'm hope you do. Yet, I don't think anybody here is interested in hearing the details of what I do. If someone asks, I'll usually take my answer to U2U to avoid boring the crap out of those who have absolutely no interest.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by HarmNone

I hate to break it to you, but most people here don't give a flying fig what you do...at least, they don't care about the details. .

Perhaps you should do a poll before you make statements like the above.

I dont feel that way

I would much rather here details about someone's job and experience than some fat POS living in England reading off the BBC

[DeV]

Originally posted by Arkans
He takes a lot of pride in his job. Maybe a bit too much, maybe I'm a bit jaded from the military, who knows and who cares. He's proud in what he does, sees it as important, rather by fault or not, but still does. Don't like it? Don't read it.

Don't think that he's the only one like that though. There are pleanty of "Dave's" in the military and as long as they do their job well, then there is nothing wrong with their pride.

- Arkans Granted. I think it hits home for most people when they are told they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to discussing the military. I think its great that Dave takes such pride in his profession; it's how it should be. However, when you cross that line of bursting with pride and mix it with being the ultimate spokesperson and telling anyone with a differing opinion on the subject that they don't know jack, your pride will backlash more often than not.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Arkans
The topic here is very clear. If you don't give a fuck why do you read it? Just to get the taste of piss flavored beer and to troll? Seriously now.

- Arkans

Why do CT and I read it? Because we HAVE to read it. It's our job to read it.

Why do we comment? I did because I can see where the problems are coming from and had hoped to point out to Dave, and others who take a lot of crap on these boards, where the problem might be coming from. I'm pretty sure CT has the same intention.

[Atlanteax]

Don't you people get it?

He's "The Edine" in the Military!

Dave is taking his Roleplaying just a tad bit too far! :lol:

I agree, everyone should have some bit of pride at least. Dave just seems to have more than the average guy and created a thread about his job. We have psycotic bird gropers spamming the thread with smilies and stupid comments like they are important in a thread with a title that wasn't misleading at all.

- Arkans

This obviously excludes mods, but there are non-mods that are, for some reason, pissed about the threads. They have the options, but will power seems to be will, either that, or they get off on flaming. Pick one.

- Arkans

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by HarmNone

I hate to break it to you, but most people here don't give a flying fig what you do...at least, they don't care about the details. .

Perhaps you should do a poll before you make statements like the above.

I dont feel that way

I would much rather here details about someone's job and experience than some fat POS living in England reading off the BBC

Then ask, ToJ. I don't recall ever seeing a post from you asking for details about what someone else does for a living.

[CrystalTears]

Right. The topic was clear which is why I made the decision to voice my feelings in here where it was basically appropriate to do.

I'm not in the mood to stress this feeling whenever he brings up the military in his life, which is daily, in every type of thread, even those that have NOTHING to do with politics or the military.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by DeV

telling anyone with a differing opinion on the subject that they don't know jack, your pride will backlash more often than not.

most of the people here dont know jack about the military.

like Arkans said dont like it dont open a thread created by Dave about Dave's job

[DeV]

Originally posted by Arkans
The topic here is very clear. If you don't give a fuck why do you read it? Just to get the taste of piss flavored beer and to troll? Seriously now.

- Arkans Nah, this topic is a byproduct of other topics in which Dave has made himself seem superior to others, even fellow military men, regarding military operations and informaiton that's assessible to mostly anyone with a brain and the know how to gather it.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Arkans
This obviously excludes mods, but there are non-mods that are, for some reason, pissed about the threads. They have the options, but will power seems to be will, either that, or they get off on flaming. Pick one.

- Arkans

With that I will agree, Arkans. Those who seem to find their joy in putting others down can learn something from this, too. It isn't appreciated by most. In fact, it points out some pretty unflattering things about the person posting the put-downs.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Right. The topic was clear which is why I made the decision to voice my feelings in here where it was basically appropriate to do.

I'm not in the mood to stress this feeling whenever he brings up the military in his life, which is daily, in every type of thread, even those that have NOTHING to do with politics or the military.

I guess some people like being mere cogs in a machine and don't generally like thinking for themselves.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by HarmNone

Then ask, ToJ. I don't recall ever seeing a post from you asking for details about what someone else does for a living.

I have been around long enough to know what most do for a living and/ or hobbies

examples

Spun in security in vegas
PB motel something
Bratt farm
Anticor computer repair



could continue but way off topic

No more points please

:P

edit to add more just to show I could continue

[Edited on 7-8-2005 by theotherjohn]

A byproduct, yes, and at least he had the decency to move it from that thread into this one, yet for some reasons, Dave retained his following. Color me fucking confused as to why that would happen.

- Arkans

[DeV]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
most of the people here dont know jack about the military.
Yet that doesn't mean they don't have friends, family, and loved ones that may know more or even less than someone like in Dave's position.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Arkans
A byproduct, yes, and at least he had the decency to move it from that thread into this one, yet for some reasons, Dave retained his following. Color me fucking confused as to why that would happen.

- Arkans

Heh. It confuses the hell out of me a good deal of the time, as well, Arkans. Yet, perhaps we're learning a bit about this phenomenon from the posts being made here.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by DeV
Yet that doesn't mean they don't have friends, family, and loved ones that may know more or even less than someone like in Dave's position.

I disagree completely

Unless you are there right now doing what he is doing there are so many changes (most not good) to today's military that you really dont

[Skirmisher]

Not being an expert does not somehow take away the right to have an opinion TOJ.

You yourself seem to have more than a few on things you know little about so lighten up on others voicing theirs.

[DeV]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by DeV
Yet that doesn't mean they don't have friends, family, and loved ones that may know more or even less than someone like in Dave's position.

I disagree completely

Unless you are there right now doing what he is doing there are so many changes (most not good) to today's military that you really dont I disagree completely as well. People should no longer have an opinion or seek knowlege on a subject because they are not there to experience it? That is confusing.

[Brattt8525]

I think it is great he is proud of his job, hell everyone should be proud of something right?

What sucks is when certain people seem to get their internet rocks off by downing them at every turn. If you don't like said person, IGNORE them. Shit sometimes I feel like a few people here need to be put in a corner for time out.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Skirmisher
Not being an expert does not somehow take away the right to have an opinion TOJ.

You yourself seem to have more than a few on things you know little about so lighten up on others voicing theirs.

we are not talking about the right to an opinion.

I thought we were talking about the complaints in his folder about himself.

I read the PC for opinions concerning movies, games, training plans etc so if the collective you thought I meant opinions I will be more blunt and clearer in the future :D

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
I read the PC for opinions concerning movies, games, training plans etc so if the collective you thought I meant opinions I will be more blunt and clearer in the future :D

If that's what you read the PC for, what are you doing in this thread (which isn't about any of those) complaining about what people post in other threads (that also aren't about any of those)? I mean, at one point in this thread you claimed to care about the details of peoples' jobs. That certainly isn't related to any of the interests you outlined above. :?:

[Kyra]

Originally posted by Arkans
We have psycotic bird gropers spamming the thread with smilies and stupid comments like they are important in a thread with a title that wasn't misleading at all.
- Arkans

Let me know what my birds have to do with my opinion of Dave's over-inflated ego about his job & his appearance? Or was that just the best response/flame you could toss out?

Btw one post in a thread does not make spam, if it does you are WAY past your spam limit in this thread :D

K.

I disagree with ignoring people, some people need a good hard flaming, but following somebody to a thread JUST to flame is kind of stupid.

Neininque at least has a point when she says something. She might be crude and rude in the way she puts it, but it's not always a baseless flame.

The ogre, on the other hand, provided absolutely nothing to the discussion, except a flame.

- Arkans

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Brattt8525
I think it is great he is proud of his job, hell everyone should be proud of something right?

What sucks is when certain people seem to get their internet rocks off by downing them at every turn. If you don't like said person, IGNORE them. Shit sometimes I feel like a few people here need to be put in a corner for time out.

I don't down people at every turn. If anything that's why I wanted to say something here because it was focused on just him. I don't really plan on repeating myself. I think I said plenty here.

I wish I could just ignore people and/or posts but I can't. I may skim :D but I have to at least glance over for naughty bits. Although there are some people that I'm flagged in my head to read on purpose because they are repeat offenders, so to speak. So it's kinda hard to really ignore those, as much as I'd like to.

Your birds are nothing more than something to point you out by. I mean, I could just say "Troll" or "Behemoth", but that could be used by me to describe any number of people I'm not fond of here. Thus, I decided to use you and your perverted obsessions with birds.

ANYWAY, one post from you is just one post too much. You arn't interesting or funny, you're of like that kid that invites himself to parties and no one is mean enough to say, "Get the fuck out" and that's why it's spam.

So, you don't care for Dave, why are you in his thread again? Glutton for punishment much?

- Arkans

[Sean]

Alright it's time we move this thread back to the intial topic at hand, Dave's job.

[Doughboy]

Originally posted by Nieninque
I respect:
RangerD
Anticor
Stealth
Lyonis
Most of my family

for the stuff they have done in terms of serving in the armed forces.

I respect them more for the fact that they dont pretend they do lunch with the President and know his intimate secrets.



Fuck man! I get no love! :sniffle:

*Edited to fix a typo

[Edited on 7-8-2005 by Doughboy]

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Tijay
Alright it's time we move this thread back to the intial topic at hand, Dave's job.

Wait a minute...Dave has a job?

[Janarth]

He actually said he'd personally avenge the deaths of people who died in 9/11?

Who heard about the financial type who quit his job and became a ranger?

I have some relevant connections to this stuff, just curious...

Real fun getting on the subway yesterday....

[Latrinsorm]

When someone specifically tells Dave what his job does and does not include, I don't think it's at all unreasonable for him to make a thread detailing what his job is. I sure wouldn't want a ginormous post like that in an unrelated thread.
Originally posted by Harmnone
That certainly isn't related to any of the interests you outlined above.Et cetera covers a lot of ground. ;)

[SpunGirl]

Surveillance, kthx. Completely different, but I appreciate the nod.

-K

[DianaBanana]

Originally posted by Edaarin
I found a potato chip today in a stack of Pringles that was misshapen.

Did it look like the Virgin Mary?

Im sitting at the USO in Midway airpot, it seems Harmnone didnt light a candle for me.

The reason for this thread was to put to rest the countless times people have told me I am just talking out of my ass. I gave a general and free to the public description of the job that I do in the military. I thought it might allow people to understand a bit more where I come from when I comment on things like the ist threat, and tactics needed to achieve victory in the war on .

This is where I come from, this is what I do. I am very proud of my job, and take pride in the work that I do. If that makes me a bad person, okay, but I assure you it makes me far from ill informed on the subjects I comment on.


PS. the im not that bad looking comment was a joke, though I think it went over your head kyra.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Dave

This is where I come from, this is what I do. I am very proud of my job, and take pride in the work that I do. If that makes me a bad person, okay, but I assure you it makes me far from ill informed on the subjects I comment on.


It doesnt make you a bad person. I am genuinely pleased for you that you are doing a job you are proud of. The thing that makes you a dickhead is that fact that you think you know better than everybody else about all things military. You clearly dont.
The amount of times you start sentences with "I will make it simple for you.." is ridiculous, especially when your use of the English language suggests that simple is all you do.

If you offered opinions, I wouldnt mind so much. But you claim to be an authority all the time. Without fail. And that grates. Because you aren't. I would trust the opinion of someone that had an interest in military history before I would trust the opinion of an army barmy kid who has been in the forces for five minutes. You aint kidding no-one.

[HarmNone]

I did too light a candle for you. It was probably conscripted into duty by all the candles I have burning for the people of London. :(

[longshot]

Originally posted by Dave
Not being in the position, or holding the responsibilities I can’t expect you to understand.

The only thing I understand is that there are a lot of other military people here, and none of them post the same "ru-hah" bullshit that you do.

You love to think that you're something special, and this position of yours is right up your alley.

Dave, you are special.

S - P - E - C - I - A - L

Personally, I'm happy that Dave started a thread about himself.

He likes the attention, and this way he can receive the attention he needs without simultaneously brutalizing the English language and destroying yet another thread.

On an unrelated note, but in the theme of the thread...

It's painfully obvious why TOJ reads and posts here. He just enjoys being angry. He seeks it out. He relishes in the moment of spewing fire.

Why this is true? I really don't know. Maybe he doesn't get to express himself in his daily life? Maybe an uncle touched him in the private zone when he was a kid? It could be no reason at all... he could just be a cock. But whatever it is, that's who he is.

[Gan]

Longshot, usually the ones that act like that have the most to hide.

The whole mentality of "I R ARMY, U R NOT, STFU" doesnt hold water as validation of a claim or the rebuttal to an argument. One thing I have to hand to Dave is that he's willing to give background as to where he's forming his thoughts and opinions.

At least armed with that information he can help others better understand his perspective... the STFU ones unfortunately will be viewed in a dimmer light because of the reluctance to do just that. Perhaps thats all they aim to do in the first place. A dim light is better than no light.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by longshot


On an unrelated note, but in the theme of the thread...

Maybe he doesn't get to express himself in his daily life? Maybe an uncle touched him in the private zone when he was a kid? It could be no reason at all... he could just be a cock. But whatever it is, that's who he is.

Perhaps you should figure out who you are since you create a thread called Faulty Gaydar and now think about and type the above

[4a6c1]

HOLY JEEBUS SOMEONE BURNT TEH BBQ

*walks over to the grill and nibbles on the Dave a little before turning it over*

Ok. Proceed.

[longshot]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Perhaps you should figure out who you are since you create a thread called Faulty Gaydar and now think about and type the above

There's nothing to think about.

I'm good looking and dress well.

This does not make me a homosexual. That was what the faulty gaydar thread was about. Why is it that someone that takes care of themselves and doesn't look like he's the spawn of Alabama-man is going to attract dudes.

I'm not gay. Sorry.

As for you, you enjoy being a dickhead.

I have no idea why, but you do.

[Sean]

And thats the end of it as the topic is Daves job.

[Kuyuk]

Awww.


K.