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theotherjohn
06-29-2005, 12:11 PM
If you are not happy with life, you can find out why

http://www.scientology.org/oca.htm

ElanthianSiren
06-29-2005, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by theotherjohn
If you are not happy with life, you can find out why

http://www.scientology.org/oca.htm

Church + Melissa = "No. Thank you for the offer though."

Apotheosis
06-29-2005, 12:16 PM
yeah, that's in no way CREEPY AS ALL HELL.

Apotheosis
06-29-2005, 12:19 PM
3. Do you browse through railway timetables, directories, or dictionaries just for pleasure?


(yes, because understanding THAT will lead me to happiness)

4a6c1
06-29-2005, 12:24 PM
Haha. I've done that thing before. They are actually kinda nice to talk to in person. Answer questions about Scientology and such.

theotherjohn
06-29-2005, 12:26 PM
Can you believe the test says that I am agressive?

DeV
06-29-2005, 12:26 PM
Totally.

Miss X
06-29-2005, 12:27 PM
God, how fucking long is this test....

Edited to add: I used my ex boyfriends address, phone number and email address. I'm sure he will love being contacted by them.

[Edited on 29-6-05 by Miss X]

theotherjohn
06-29-2005, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Miss X
God, how fucking long is this test....

there is another to see how toxic you are

4a6c1
06-29-2005, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by theotherjohn
Can you believe the test says that I am agressive?

Yes.

:P

Atlanteax
06-29-2005, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit

Originally posted by theotherjohn
Can you believe the test says that I am agressive?

Yes.

:P

I expected it to tell you (ToJ) that you're "Manic Depressive" :rolleyes:

Snapp
06-29-2005, 12:37 PM
I gave up after 120 questions, I just don't care that much.

Miss X
06-29-2005, 12:45 PM
Ok I did the whole test and the graph confused me! Im way below the broken line on nervous and irresponsible though.

Artha
06-29-2005, 01:28 PM
www.clambake.org

pennywise
06-29-2005, 01:42 PM
There is no way to score well on the test. It is meant to get you into the cult, not tell you that you are happy. Happy people and people who think they are happy do not join cults.

xtc
06-29-2005, 04:50 PM
I did the test but quit, damn thing is too long. My address 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Scientology meets Bush.

4a6c1
06-29-2005, 05:02 PM
:lol:

HarmNone
06-29-2005, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by pennywise
There is no way to score well on the test. It is meant to get you into the cult, not tell you that you are happy. Happy people and people who think they are happy do not join cults.

Not really true. I actually had no marks below the dividing line between what they determine to be normal and what they determine to be abnormal. All areas were high happiness to normal range. Of course, I made it a point to answer any question obviously designed to be misleading with a "?". ;)

[Edited on 6-30-2005 by HarmNone]

Skirmisher
06-29-2005, 08:03 PM
It seems i'm depressed yet very active. Slightly nervous and slightly aggresive. :cake:

Jazuela
06-29-2005, 08:38 PM
I remember in college we lived near the Church of Scientology building. These guys would hang outside with their notepads asking everyone to take a free personality test. Finally I got sick of being bothered by them and said SURE!

They brought me inside, and sat me down in an open cubby that looked out on all the busy people working. Gave me the test, told me to take my time and answer each question honestly. It was I think around 200 questions, and there were a few duplicates.

When I was done, they told me to wait in a room while they entered the data and got a printout. This room - they locked me and some other people who were taking it inside, where we had to watch a video of L. Ron Hubbard's life and the Church itself. One person wanted to get up for some water, which is how we found out we were locked in.

Finally after 40 minutes of this stupid video, just as it ended (how conVEEENient!) some lady came in and ushered us back out to the main floor. We all went back to our "case workers" or whatever they called themselves, and I learned after the bunch of us gathered outside the building that every single one of us was judged "depressed" and "anxious" to one extent or another and could benefit greatly from the Church.

Only one person actually bought into the scam. The rest of us were very glad to be out of there. It's a freaky place with freaky people in it who have freaky ideas about the world, and if you take the bait, you too can be one of them - for a fee.

Tsa`ah
06-29-2005, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Jazuela
which is how we found out we were locked in.

Door meet foot, nut jobs meet police.

Artha
06-29-2005, 09:12 PM
and if you take the bait, you too can be one of them - for a fee.
About $200,000-500,000 for the average Joe.

Ravenstorm
06-29-2005, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Skirmisher
It seems i'm depressed ...

Of course you are. You're not jumping up and down on furniture because you're in LUUUUUUV. You must be depressed.

Raven

Artha
06-29-2005, 09:25 PM
Someone needs to audit out their body thetans.

[Edited on 6-30-2005 by Artha]

TheRoseLady
06-29-2005, 09:52 PM
I'm a very stable but slightly nervous and depressed person who lives with great certainty but is slightly irresponsible and seriously lacks accord but is a great communicator. :weird:

OreoElf
06-30-2005, 05:55 AM
No way do I want the Scientologists to have my info at all... much less my IP address. I had a friend that joined for a while and tried to leave. She had to move and change her name to get rid of them... Nucking futty cult! Still waiting for those sheep to get some kool aid...:baa:

Artha
06-30-2005, 06:58 AM
If they drink the kool-aid, who's going to charge them $200,000 for the next step of enlightenment?

OreoElf
06-30-2005, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Artha
If they drink the kool-aid, who's going to charge them $200,000 for the next step of enlightenment?

:coffee: Good point... Back to the drawing board...
~Runs off to plot how to throw a wrench in the gears yet again...~

Warriorbird
06-30-2005, 09:45 AM
Amusingly enough, they thought I was great except in the area of responsibility.

ElanthianSiren
06-30-2005, 10:58 AM
I registered under my ex boyfriend's name. Ha ha. He can deal with them.

According to them, the only thing wrong with me is that my nervous tendencies are on the low side of normal.

-Melissa

Killer Kitten
06-30-2005, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Artha

and if you take the bait, you too can be one of them - for a fee.
About $200,000-500,000 for the average Joe.

I thought at first you were kidding about this figure, now I'm not so sure. They really get that much from people?

That's amazing... do they charge dues or just push for donations or what? I've never talked to a Scientologist, or a Hare Krishna (come to think of it, haven't seen one of them in years), or any other cult person as far as i know. A few people I knew growing up got Jesus in a big way and went all strange, but as far as i know they weren't members of any organized cults or anything.

CrystalTears
06-30-2005, 11:20 AM
They nickel and dime you to death. They sucker you into paying for membership dues, books, conventions, outings, items to help your ambiance, blah blah blah.

My aunt got caught up in a cult about 15 years ago and once we got her out of it, she realized how much of a stupid amount of money she ended up giving these people. Scientology is no different.

Apotheosis
06-30-2005, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Artha

and if you take the bait, you too can be one of them - for a fee.
About $200,000-500,000 for the average Joe.


I"m in the wrong business.

Artha
06-30-2005, 06:41 PM
I thought at first you were kidding about this figure, now I'm not so sure. They really get that much from people?

http://www.clambake.org/archive/media/time-pg3-4.jpg (http://www.clambake.org/archive/media/time-pg3-4.jpg)
(click for bigger, didn't want to add side-scroll)

Not only that, but if you make a payment on something and then die, they'll fight your family if they want the money return and claim it was a donation. A 73-year-old lady named Harriet Baker had a debt free house and was a scientologist. They got her to put a $45,000 mortgage on it to pay for auditing and she ended up losing the house.

Personal accounts (not all related to money) can be found here (http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/#accounts).

Fengus
07-01-2005, 02:59 AM
Thats all christian talk, cults are okay as long as its your cult that is getting the money in its collection plate.

Artha
07-01-2005, 07:03 AM
A collection plate (voluntary) is a little different than "You should go mortgage your house to get those nasty thetans out!"

edit: Shit, even the Bible doesn't say tithing is necessary. In Scientology, however, you must pay to 'be saved'. Claiming that it's anything other than an organization created to make money is ludicrous.

[Edited on 7-1-2005 by Artha]

HouseofElves
07-01-2005, 02:04 PM
>>8. Are your actions considered unpredictable by other people?

Did Tom Cruise take this recently?

ElanthianSiren
07-01-2005, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by HouseofElves
>>8. Are your actions considered unpredictable by other people?

Did Tom Cruise take this recently?

Ha ha -- maybe he feels guilty about what he did to Nicole. I mean, damn, the women he's been with since have NOTHING on her. He is nuts.

-M

DeV
07-01-2005, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by HouseofElves
>>8. Are your actions considered unpredictable by other people?

Did Tom Cruise take this recently? I was thinking of Tom Cruise while reading a number of questions that were asked and couldn't do much more than shake my head and chuckle.

DCSL
07-01-2005, 06:21 PM
Apparently, I'm highly aggressive and unstable (my highest and lowest graph points.) Everything else seemed normal, according to them.

Fengus
07-02-2005, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by Artha
A collection plate (voluntary) is a little different than "You should go mortgage your house to get those nasty thetans out!"

edit: Shit, even the Bible doesn't say tithing is necessary. In Scientology, however, you must pay to 'be saved'. Claiming that it's anything other than an organization created to make money is ludicrous.


I'm not saying anything of the sort, however, how does christianity differ?

You aren't forced to mortgage your house, they only try to convince you of that. There's a big difference between a con-man stealing grandmas savings and scientology, notably one is illegal while the other is merely shady. But its all perspective, this is no more shady to me than some man telling you that you will burn in eternal flame for not coming to his church. And forget quoting the bible, lets instead look at actual churchs and their preachers, not a one is gonna stand up there and say god doesn't require you to drop money in that bowl.

To an unbeliever like myself christianity is as much a scam as scientology. Is one better than another merely because its older and its methods are less directed and effective?


And as for dastardly, both target the young. Many christian churchs send their bus around to the poor neighborhoods every sunday morning to pick up young impressionable minds to form and indoctrinate. Thats dispicable in my opinion, but how many people have you ever heard voicing that opinion?