Scientology

[xtc]

I am at a loss to understand how people sucscribe to this "religion". Recently Tom Cruise has inducted Katie Holmes into this cult.

I know all religions sound far fetched but Scientology was started by a Science Fiction writer who is quoted as saying: "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion"

What do you guys think of Scientology and its appeal to Hollywood's "elite"?

[Apotheosis]

umm, I think that L. Ron Hubbard pulled the biggest prank in history.

I am jealous. But my time will come.............................

[StrayRogue]

I'm at a loss on how people can subscribe to most religions. But then I guess weak people need something to cling too. Faifth can be good but the idea of having some omnipotent super being who would give a shit about a poxy human's actions in his blink-of-an-eye lifespan is a bit rediculous in my eyes.

[Apotheosis]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
I'm at a loss on how people can subscribe to most religions. But then I guess weak people need something to cling too. Faifth can be good but the idea of having some omnipotent super being who would give a shit about a poxy human's actions in his blink-of-an-eye lifespan is a bit rediculous in my eyes.

:yeahthat:

[Hips]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
the idea of having some omnipotent super being who would give a shit about a poxy human's actions in his blink-of-an-eye lifespan is a bit rediculous in my eyes.

Stay just summarized my views regarding religion. :D

Also, a friend of mind linked me to http://www.xenu.net/ the other day.

[Apotheosis]

on a side note, when I was much younger (17 - 18, something like that), a girl that I was dating, and myself, went to a scientologist thingy and caused trouble in some way. I can't remember all the details, but it was basically coming in and mind-fucking them all.. or something along those lines..

I was amused. the sheep.

[4a6c1]

Scientology is definately a fringe religion. Meaning if it was just a little more localized cult would be the correct word to use.

This religion definately appeals to alot of progressive 'modernist' types. I describe them as bleeding hearts. Those who are more apt to lose patience with this religion are usually traditionalists christians. Or just people in general who feel comfortable with things the way they are already.

I think what may actually work to make it survive (and evolve) within the next 100 years is its suggestion for huge and drastic societal change. This will either work with it or against it. If everyone changes to believe this mumbo jumbo it wont be so popular anymore. Right now it survives as a 'sophistication' only. So when everyone believes this way I'm sure the leaders will have to scrounge for new elite-sounding messages to keep people feeling superior to society.

But I dont think its a practical religion for people. And people essentially are not going to change what they believe until they are uncomfortable with the faith they have. Christianity is an evolving beast though and it has incredible staying power. This is what scientology has to compete with.

I dont believe Scientology has any real future in America until its message becomes more broad and applicable to the common American. As it stands, this religion is definately a niche. I give it till the founders die and the celebrities who sponsor it start trying to get back into heaven.

[Edited on 6-29-2005 by JihnasSpirit]

[CrystalTears]

Kudos to Hubbard for pulling it off. It's sad that people buy into it so easily.

One night back in my clubbing days, before we got to the club, we decided to stop into one of the local scientology places, out of mere curiosity to see what they would say. They pulled us all aside and quizzed us for at least an hour, asking us the most random and mundane questions. Afterwards they give you their evaluation and suggest all these books and conventions to attend.

They all thought were nuts, lost or completely fucked up and needed IMMEDIATE counseling. Maybe in some ways we were but there really wasn't anything really wrong with us other than being your average, horny, excitable teens. They said we were doomed if we didn't take the courses. We laughed and walked out.

It was really fun, but a total joke. I have no problem with people having a faith to believe in. I just can't accept the fanaticals, despite the religion, who just can't shut up about it and feel that they are the only ones who will be saved. Give me a break.

[Edited on 6/29/2005 by CrystalTears]

[theotherjohn]

Ok this is straight off their official website



The aims of Scientology are a world without insanity, without criminals, without war, where the able can prosper and where Man is free to rise to greater heights.


Why would I want to do this?

If I was going to be part of religion, I would at least choose one that will affect eternity and not 100 years

[Artha]

Scientology is a business, not a religion.

[DeV]

I can't believe people fall for this shit.

[ElanthianSiren]

Originally posted by Yswithe

Originally posted by StrayRogue
I'm at a loss on how people can subscribe to most religions. But then I guess weak people need something to cling too. Faith can be good but the idea of having some omnipotent super being who would give a shit about a poxy human's actions in his blink-of-an-eye lifespan is a bit rediculous in my eyes.

:yeahthat:

:heart: Stay. Preach on darlin.

-Melissa

[Landrion]

Well, I'll say these things for scientology. I havent heard about anyone bringing down a building in its name. I havent heard about anyone blowing up a bus in the name of whatever its figurehead is. I havent heard about anyone getting shot for being or not being a scientologist. Havent heard of anyone drinking poisoned kool-aid either.

That makes them a lot better than three religions I could name off the top of my head right there.

[Apotheosis]

That makes them a lot better than three religions I could name off the top of my head right there.

watch a movie called "The Parallax View"

And umm, like, uhh, well, I am really not interested in wasting any more of my life discussing this, but, they are insane, end of story.

[Edited on 6-29-2005 by Yswithe]

[Artha]

People also do great things in the name of those religions. What's scientology do?

[Apotheosis]

Originally posted by Artha
People also do great things in the name of those religions. What's scientology do?

get people like Tom Cruise, and John Travlota to espouse the virtues of the Hubbard Doctrine.

[Landrion]

Originally posted by Artha
People also do great things in the name of those religions. What's scientology do?

Like molest children and cover for the offenders? That sounds pretty fuckin great!.

Admittedly Im screwing around a bit. But I find it pretty laughable that people are so down on this group when the rest of the religions are so far from spotless.

I dont advocate this or any of the other little thought control groups people call religions. I just dont think one pile of shit smells better than another.

[Artha]

Here (http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/time910605.html)'s a good story about the 'church'.

[Landrion]

Originally posted by Artha
Here (http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/time910605.html)'s a good story about the 'church'.

Damn, now I have heard some nasty stuff about this religion. Well, at least its in the right category.

[Parkbandit]

The city of Clearwater, FL is basically going bankrupt because they are buying most of the downtown land for their 'campus'. They pay no taxes on this land due to their 'religious' moniker.

[Landrion]

Originally posted by Artha
Here (http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/time910605.html)'s a good story about the 'church'.

As Im going further in this article all I can say is GOD DAMN these guys are scummy. (assuming veracity)

OMG ALL OF YOU QUIT FORCING YOUR ATHEIST VIEWS ON ME!

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Landrion
Well, I'll say these things for scientology. I havent heard about anyone bringing down a building in its name. I havent heard about anyone blowing up a bus in the name of whatever its figurehead is. I havent heard about anyone getting shot for being or not being a scientologist. Havent heard of anyone drinking poisoned kool-aid either.

That makes them a lot better than three religions I could name off the top of my head right there.

Yeah, telling every single person on emotional and psychiatric medicine to not take that medicine which was prescribed to them wouldn't lead to uncounted deaths and misshaps.

Great stuff that,

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
I'm at a loss on how people can subscribe to most religions. But then I guess weak people need something to cling too. Faifth can be good but the idea of having some omnipotent super being who would give a shit about a poxy human's actions in his blink-of-an-eye lifespan is a bit rediculous in my eyes.

It takes a lot of stupidity and in a way, a lot of egocentrism to say that there is no God existing whatsoever.

There is no luck, there is no chance, there is no hazard.

You cannot create life out of nothing, you cannot create an universe out of nothing.

The theory of Big Bang doesn't work if you take it backward.

You, mister, are a cretin. Worse, you're an egoistic cretin.

:clap:
Damn atheists telling me that there is no god. They have no right to tell me what there is and isn't.
Dont force your views on me plz.

[Edited on 6-29-2005 by Dave]

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Xcalibur

Originally posted by StrayRogue
I'm at a loss on how people can subscribe to most religions. But then I guess weak people need something to cling too. Faifth can be good but the idea of having some omnipotent super being who would give a shit about a poxy human's actions in his blink-of-an-eye lifespan is a bit rediculous in my eyes.

It takes a lot of stupidity and in a way, a lot of egocentrism to say that there is no God existing whatsoever.

There is no luck, there is no chance, there is no hazard.

You cannot create life out of nothing, you cannot create an universe out of nothing.

The theory of Big Bang doesn't work if you take it backward.

You, mister, are a cretin. Worse, you're an egoistic cretin.

You just described most of the reasons why people feel there must be a God of some sort. Some alien being looking over them at every moment of the day. Since they cannot explain how it happens.. IT MUST BE GOD'S DOING!

[Xcalibur]

Name them Martian, name them Supreme being, name them Bouddha, God, Jehova, Alla, whatever.

THERE is something.

Anyone saying the contrary has some problems with themselves, with their past, with their vision of their life, with their parents, whatever.

OR they're pathetic idiots.

:)

p.s. We will live the first encounter.

[Jenisi]

X are you even remotely educated in physics?

[Jenisi]

In my eyes, in the big scheme of things... There is no need for a "god"

Originally posted by Xcalibur
p.s. We will live the first encounter.

What are you referring to?

I wouldn't say that Parkbandit, but we do know that everything comes from something at one point. matter changes form and creates new objects. Were then did this matter come from in the first place? How did a bunch of atoms come together and miraculously form a living creature?

Its faith, everyone has it, some put it in a higher power, others in science, and yet some in nothing at all. Ones' faith is no more right than the other, for with all faiths there is much left to question, be it science, or Christianity.

[Xcalibur]

There is no need for God NOW.

There was a need before, and it was for the creation.

Of mankind? Doubtful... Of the universe itself? Surely.

You cannot create stuff out of nothing, nothing is created out of nothing.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Tea & Strumpets

Originally posted by Xcalibur
p.s. We will live the first encounter.

What are you referring to?

That we are not alone.

Ah gotcha. :thumbsup: That's what I thought you meant, and I thought the omnious "P.S." was hilarious.

[Edited on 6-29-2005 by Tea & Strumpets]

Originally posted by Jenisi
X are you even remotely educated in physics?

Eh, he is right in this instance. The big bang is practicle and it very may well have happened. *BUT* the question of where the molecules came from in the first place to create the big bang is unanswered.

[CrystalTears]

Since a being such as God or Buddha can't be disproved, I have no problems with people believing and having faith in a higher being.

Just as long as they keep that belief to themselves, and people don't bash others for having that faith, I don't take issues with it.

Originally posted by CrystalTears

Just as long as they keep that belief to themselves, and people don't bash others for having that faith, I don't take issues with it.

That is where the hypocrisy comes in. People don't keep their views of a lack of a higher being to themselves. If you dont want to hear it from me, I sure as hell don't care to hear how much more "enlightened" a person is than I because he does not believe in god.

Edit: and using the boards as a cross section of western culture, the people who do not believe in a higher power are glad to insult those who do on a regular basis, yet those that believe in one are far more rare to to it in turn, let alone in the first place.

[Edited on 6-29-2005 by Dave]

[Jenisi]

Please look into cosmology I really don't feel like explaining all this. Where is Tayre?!?! Argh. Also look into cosmic microwave backgrounds that gave direct evidence the universe began with a hot big bang.

[DeV]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
Name them Martian, name them Supreme being, name them Bouddha, God, Jehova, Alla, whatever.

THERE is something.

Anyone saying the contrary has some problems with themselves, with their past, with their vision of their life, with their parents, whatever.
I agree, actually. I look at religion and God in different lights and to automatically group the two in expressing one's distrust, disgust(which I share for the most part), or whatever negative feelings toward organized religion is self defeating to an extent. We didn't just magically appear, but then again there are so many religion's out there that I feel prey on people's need for a reason, for something greater than themselves and they exploit the idea and even capitalize off of it as well as creating their own interpretations of how we're supposed to live our lives based on what they claim are the guidelines of Godliness. Lame.

I don't even know if I believe in God, explicitely, but I do know that I believe in something greater, more powerful than my own self and others. I also fully and completely believe that free will is what motivates us all.

[Jenisi]

Why would there have to be a so called "god" to create anything?

[xtc]

Originally posted by Jenisi
Please look into cosmology I really don't feel like explaining all this. Where is Tayre?!?! Argh. Also look into cosmic microwave backgrounds that gave direct evidence the universe began with a hot big bang.

Evidence of the big bang theory does not disprove the existence of God.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Dave

Originally posted by CrystalTears

Just as long as they keep that belief to themselves, and people don't bash others for having that faith, I don't take issues with it.

That is where the hypocrisy comes in. People don't keep their views of a lack of a higher being to themselves. If you dont want to hear it from me, I sure as hell don't care to hear how much more "enlightened" a person is than I because he does not believe in god.

Edit: and using the boards as a cross section of western culture, the people who do not believe in a higher power are glad to insult those who do on a regular basis, yet those that believe in one are far more rare to to it in turn, let alone in the first place.

I'm not as religious as my family, but I'm certainly not anti-religion. My family sends me spiritual stuff through emails daily and it makes me roll my eyes. However I also certainly don't want to hear how believing in a higher being is being delusional or stupid either. Both radical versions are pretty annoying and insulting to me.

If you don't want to believe in anything, great. Good for you. But don't tell me that it's the right thing to do, and I won't tell you that believing in something is the right thing either. Everyone has their own spiritual ways to deal with life, and I see no harm in that at all. Forcing that on others bothers me.

[Some Rogue]

Originally posted by Dave

Originally posted by CrystalTears

Just as long as they keep that belief to themselves, and people don't bash others for having that faith, I don't take issues with it.

That is where the hypocrisy comes in. People don't keep their views of a lack of a higher being to themselves. If you dont want to hear it from me, I sure as hell don't care to hear how much more "enlightened" a person is than I because he does not believe in god.

Edit: and using the boards as a cross section of western culture, the people who do not believe in a higher power are glad to insult those who do on a regular basis, yet those that believe in one are far more rare to to it in turn, let alone in the first place.

[Edited on 6-29-2005 by Dave]

That needed to be said again.

More often than not it's the non-christians on these boards bashing the christians than it is the other way around.

Why is it acceptable here to bash someone based on their religion, yet not ok to do the same because they're gay, or black or whatever?

[DeV]

Originally posted by Jenisi
Why would there have to be a so called "god" to create anything? I don't know. I don't look at it in terms of there needing to be a God to have created us. There are so many questions that religion not only cannot answer, they simply don't have the answers to questions similiar to this one. We can only theorize and go off of scientific study.

I don't know how we got here, but It would selfish for me to assume that we got here on our own accord. "Something" did it and it could very well be through scientific means, and for someone else it could be God or whatever they believe, or a combination of both, and for the next person it could be that we grew from the dirt and nothing more.

Too many theories and not enough answers.

[Artha]

Because hating on the BIG DUMB XTIANS is cool.

[Edited on 6-29-2005 by Artha]

[4a6c1]

Passion. All the historical and modern wrongs of religion do not equal the greatness of one moment of passion a true believer feels for they're God. I think its worth it.

Excepting philosophy, I'd say all religion has its uses. Among other things it gives people hope, happiness, love, belonging, understanding, compassion, redemption, motivation, meditation, employment and family. God helps people function the way they want to. Even if it is just a pretty idea most times, shouldnt you allow them this delusion?

;)

[Jenisi]

To each their own I guess.

[4a6c1]

OMG, that is so what the Dalai Lama said to the Pope.

See....your religious deep down on the inside. :D

[xtc]

Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
OMG, that is so what the Dalai Lama said to the Pope.

See....your religious deep down on the inside. :D

Christ is quite Buddhist. There is a good book called Living Buddha, Living Christ.

[4a6c1]

Good book. 'Anger' is my favorite of his. And yes, if you look at him from 50 perspectives, Christ fits into 50 religions.

[Apotheosis]

lets get back to the topic please.

i am concerned about this 'scientology' problem. perhaps it is time people organized.

:paranoid:

[CrystalTears]

Scientology Lies (http://www.scientology-lies.com/)

Heh.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by xtc

Originally posted by Jenisi
Please look into cosmology I really don't feel like explaining all this. Where is Tayre?!?! Argh. Also look into cosmic microwave backgrounds that gave direct evidence the universe began with a hot big bang.

Evidence of the big bang theory does not disprove the existence of God.

And because we cannot explain how it did happen.. does not prove the existence of a God.

[xtc]

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by xtc

Originally posted by Jenisi
Please look into cosmology I really don't feel like explaining all this. Where is Tayre?!?! Argh. Also look into cosmic microwave backgrounds that gave direct evidence the universe began with a hot big bang.

Evidence of the big bang theory does not disprove the existence of God.

And because we cannot explain how it did happen.. does not prove the existence of a God.

Absolutely true but it makes one wonder.

[Apotheosis]

could jesus microwave a burrito so hot, even he himself couldn't handle it?

[Jenisi]

I wasn't try to say "The big bang happend, so there is not a god"

[xtc]

Originally posted by Yswithe
could jesus microwave a burrito so hot, even he himself couldn't handle it?

Jesus doesn't like Mexican food.

[Back]

I started off with a big bang. At least thats what my dad said.

[peam]

Get on topic.

[Apotheosis]

http://www.ezlink.com/~perry/Co$/Christian/crowley3.htm


seems scientology has quite of it's origins in the church of satan formed by aliester crawley (or however you spell it).

As a matter of fact, any google searching and in depth reading of what a number of sources post seems to link these aspects. (although, you know, it's always suspect as to whether or not these origins are true, still gives you some stuff to think about)

[AnticorRifling]

From the link posted by Yswithe:

...differed from normative Freemasonry in that they allowed women as members...

That's like saying they I differ from a plant because I'm not green. That's not being different that's being to totally different things. Comparing apples and truck tires if you will.

[Ravenstorm]

Originally posted by Yswithe
seems scientology has quite of it's origins in the church of satan formed by aliester crawley (or however you spell it).

Crowley had nothing to do with the Church of Satan. It was founded by Anton LaVey. Even the link you provided says Crowley wasn't a satanist. So where did you pull that from?

Raven

[Edited on 6-29-2005 by Ravenstorm]

[HarmNone]

No kidding, Raven! Crowley wasn't really a Satanist. He was a believer in magic; particularly, the magic of nature. I don't know where these people get the idea he was a Satanist. I guess it's because he believed in magic, and didn't subscribe to the vast majority of Christian beliefs.

Scientology grew from Dianetics, a book by L. Ron Hubbard. Came out in the early 1950's, I think.

[Apotheosis]

Originally posted by Ravenstorm
Crowley had nothing to do with the Church of Satan. It was founded by Anton LaVey. Even the link you provided says Crowley wasn't a satanist. So where did you pull that from?



ooops, my bad, I slept in on the day they covered that in "how to be a goth 101".
I have always confused crowley and levay for one reason or another.

But, for all intents and purposes, all religions are esentially the same to me, and can be categorized as follows. I say this due to the fact that I view them all as regurgitated versions of one another with a different spin.

Ocultism = All occultics, magic, magik, magick (however you spell that), any other earth nature demon, summoning, cast a spell, burn a candle religion.

Christianity = (Catholicsm falls under this, but esentially, they're all the same)

All forms of judiasm (Kabbala, cabalah, reformed, etc.)

cults = scientology, heaven's gate, amway

anyway, that's how i break it all down for the most part..

[Back]

Alistair Crowley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alistair_crowley) entry at Wikipedia.

People might confuse Scientology with Christian Science or Masonry. Totally different. Masonry is said to have its beginning as far back as Pythagoreas, and he (the Greeks) took from the Egyptians as it is all based around mathmatics. At least, I think thats how it goes.

Scientology may have been influenced by many things, but is no real derivative of anything but one man’s fiction writing.

As an aside, if you ever want to read some really weird christian science, the Rosicrucians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucians) were tops. Their books have some great illustrations.

[Apotheosis]

shit, i forgot about the christain scientists. probably another cult.

[Edaarin]

I draw the line for any religion at people pushing their views on me.

I generally refrain from airing my thoughts about other religions, and as a rule I don't discuss it with my friends anymore. When someone tries to espouse their beliefs as better than mine, or when they try to convert me is when the shit hits the fan and someone gets knocked down a few pegs. Everyone needs faith in something higher than themselves, whether it be in religion or science. But nothing gives you the right to make someone else think like you do.

The worst are the people who blindly believe something because their parents do, and try to justify it without knowing much more than I do about their own religion.

[ElanthianSiren]

Organized religion is a tool of population control at this point in time, nothing more or less IMO.

It is like my view on governments really. Much of the time, the ideal fundamentals of government are not wrong (like those basic principles of organized religion); it's when you get a leader in power who bends them to self-interested agendas that abuses begin.

I don't think that the human race needs an institution between itself and God. If God was everywhere and saw everything, why would they? For this reason, I vastly distrust any organized religion, or representative thereof, that approaches me -- be it Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Muslim, Judism, Christian Scientist, Jehovah's Witness -- to try to make me over in their ideal.

-Melissa

[Nilandia]

::glances at the topic and slowly inches away::

Nilandia, conservative Christian

[Fengus]

Originally posted by Dave
Its faith, everyone has it...


Thats a classic bullshit argument, when I drop a rock and it falls I know gravity exists, not on faith but because its proven. I don't believe that every time I drop it rock it will fall to the eart, I know it will.
There is no faith in provable science, faith in god is unchanging in the light of new evidence, this is very much different than science its its quest. I see people draw this parallel often, but they are generally uneducated.




Were then did this matter come from in the first place? How did a bunch of atoms come together and miraculously form a living creature?


Matter came from energy. There was no "miraculous" event, it was slow and tedious, but genetically proven to be sound. Evolution is. We just are, and there is no why.

Discussing every step from a carbon molecule to man is well beyond the scope of a internet forum, but its really quite simple. Do some reading.

"Provable" science has changed in the last 40 years.

Hell when I was going though school the particles that made up an atom were the smallest in existence.

Now we have quarks<sp?>

[Fengus]

Originally posted by Dave
"Provable" science has changed in the last 40 years.

Yes, its grown by some degree, or were you speaking of this as if it were the catholic church's stance on many science topics in the last 300 years? Like how its slowly retracted statements that are very false and clearly untrue? For instance that whole sun and planets thing?


Some things are only theory, but believing a theory, while obviously belief, is not faith. Faith is believing in the unknowable, science is anathema to that. That is, the quest of science is to know.


As for the jerks talking shit about non-xtains making fun of them, let me ask you a question. How many anti-xtians have knocked on your door trying to uncovert you? While *you* may not run around thumping your book, enough do that the rest of us all have had to be rude to total strangers and tell them to leave, and keep their propaganda.

[Artha]

There simply aren't enough for that. However, mention God around a devout enough atheist and you'll be told that it's rediculous. Mention religion on the internet, and sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, someone will pop up with something like

How many anti-xtians have knocked on your door trying to uncovert you? While *you* may not run around thumping your book, enough do that the rest of us all have had to be rude to total strangers and tell them to leave, and keep their propaganda.

or


Organized religion is a tool of population control at this point in time, nothing more or less IMO.

Also, this is dumb:

Matter came from energy.
You can neither create nor destroy matter. You can neither create nor destroy energy. Therefor, you can't turn energy into matter because that would be destroying energy and creating matter.

[Latrinsorm]

Energy is matter.

That being said, I think it's going to be pretty tough to substantiate the claim that energy has genes.

[Jenisi]

Originally posted by Artha
There simply aren't enough for that. However, mention God around a devout enough atheist and you'll be told that it's rediculous. Mention religion on the internet, and sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, someone will pop up with something like

How many anti-xtians have knocked on your door trying to uncovert you? While *you* may not run around thumping your book, enough do that the rest of us all have had to be rude to total strangers and tell them to leave, and keep their propaganda.

or


Organized religion is a tool of population control at this point in time, nothing more or less IMO.

Also, this is dumb:

Matter came from energy.
You can neither create nor destroy matter. You can neither create nor destroy energy. Therefor, you can't turn energy into matter because that would be destroying energy and creating matter.

I read that last little Matter came from energy is bullshit quote a few times trying to understand what you were saying. But uh, yeah matter can/does form from energy. Just look at hydrogen fusion for example. 4 hydrogen atoms at smacked together at such high speeds it overcomes the repulsion of the protons and 2 of the protons are each converted to a neutron (which is a higher mass then a proton) and also release a photon and a nutrino at the same time. How does a proton turn into something with more mass you say?!!?! Well my friend, is the energy of the fusion being transfered into mass. There are also fun things called virtual particles (that contain anti-matter) that appear all over the universe randomly at any given point in time. Science is fun.

[Edaarin]

I miss high school science classes.

"The mitochondria is the power house of the cell!!!1"