More l337 than you

[Fengus]

Obvious paths: north, south
>s
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave.]
You notice the clerics' shop.
Obvious paths: north, east
>n
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave.]

Obvious paths: north, south
Mentor Bevan has arrived to welcome you to Elanthia.

Speaking to you, Bevan says, "Greetings to you; I wish to welcome you to Elanthia on behalf of the Order of Lorekeepers, and to let you to know that should you have any questions, we will be happy to provide advice."
Bevan bows to you.
In response to the soothing melody of Bevan's song, your surroundings become calm and still.
>nod
You nod.
>l bev
It is difficult to get a good look at Bevan due to the number of mirror images of him nearby.
You see Mentor Bevan Ravenswing the Troubadour.
He appears to be an Elf.
He appears to be as old as the hills and tall. He has piercing, intense twilight-hued violet eyes and fair skin. He has shoulder length, flowing midnight black hair streaked with silver. He has a slightly weathered, hawk-like face, a flaring nose and tall upswept pointed ears. He is inked with a pattern of soaring firebirds surrounded by intricate swirls of flame upon his hands.
He is in good shape.
He is holding a spiraling mistwood walking stick inset with a flawless amethyst-hued crystal in his right hand.
He is wearing a large black billowing silk shirt, a sheer violet cloak seemingly woven from starlight with a wrought opal brooch, a pale lavender lilac, a pearl-set braided vaalin ring, a clef-clasped tooled leather satchel, an antique platinum wristband, a pair of silver-threaded boots, some bloused violet silk pantaloons with embroidered silver anchors, a violet silk sash embroidered with silver flames, a silver-chased carved amethyst flask, a glimmering eahnor flute pin studded with tiny opals, some silvery vultite cufflinks, a jaunty violet hat with a silver satin band and a phoenix feather, a bracelet of pale silver-set amethysts, an antique silver armband inset with a rolaren star and four glaes stars, an antique silver bracer, a silver-rimmed glossy black shield, a silvery silk sheath embroidered with azure flowers, an antique ivory chart case, and a opal-clasped ebony silk cravat.
>'i r l337, gut spar silvar?
You ask, "I r l337, gut spar silvar?"
Bevan stares off into space.
>snick
You snicker.
Bevan whispers, "I'm sorry, but since this is a medieval fantasy game, chatspeak is not allowed in Gemstone."
Bevan whispers, "We're expected to speak a measure of proper English, as a rule."
>weal
You have no silver coins with you.
Bevan asks, "Have you any questions so far, sir?"
>'nope
You say, "Nope."

[StrayRogue]

How does such an OOC douche bag like Bevan get in such positions? I guess as his friggin whining has got him somewhere after all.

[Showal]

ok, as ooc as that was and as much as it goes against my like for roleplaying, that was pretty funny.

[Fengus]

I consider the entire interlude to be completely OOC, I mean whats a mentor, how do they know I'm a new character, and in any case making reference of that breaks any such character immersion. But some people just can't sense humor.

[StrayRogue]

Its got nothing to do with that. I've seen Bevan in a none Mentor none Host mode being as OOC as the bitches he complains about on the officials. Jesus Christ you should have heard him on the WD...

[Showal]

Yeah, I don't mind it ... I just don't like when you're talking to someone who's brand new and you're actually explaining something to them in character and a mentor pops in and tries to take them from you. I guess it's pretty helpful for a lot of the NEW never played before players with questions.

[Miss X]

I'm not seeing the problem here. Mentors welcome every character that comes up in the top character spot on accounts, its the way of assuming a character is entirely new. Of course there are times when experienced players are welcomed, it takes no time at all for them to say "Thank you for the offer, but I do not need help right now" or something to that effect.

You would not believe the number of new players that do use chat speak when they start playing, Bevan just gave the standard chat speak response as we all do.

You're hardly furthering the cause of RP in gemstone by saying what you said, joking or not.

Oh and showal, when mentors welcome they have no way of seeing if the character is currently with someone. 'The Mentor whoever has arrived to welcome you to Elanthia' is an automatic thing when a mentor decides to welcome a new player.

Mentors are not trying to steal random newbs, if you're helping a new player, you can just let the mentor know what you are doing and if the new player needs any further help, they can come to the manor.

[Edited on 28-6-05 by Miss X]

[Showal]

Yeah I assumed as much. I know what they're doing and they're not trying to "steal" a character from me. I don't think it's bad, it just can get annoying ... but it passes.

[Fengus]

Originally posted by Miss X
I'm not seeing the problem here. Mentors welcome every character that comes up in the top character spot on accounts,

Which makes me wonder why that character came up as the top slot, perhaps if that is their method of finding new characters, maybe they shouldn't alphabetize the list.





You would not believe the number of new players that do use chat speak when they start playing,

I would, that is in fact the subtle humor of what I said.

[4a6c1]

Originally posted by Fengus

Speaking to you, Bevan says, "Greetings to you; I wish to welcome you to Elanthia on behalf of the Order of Lorekeepers, and to let you to know that should you have any questions, we will be happy to provide advice."

You ask, "I r l337, gut spar silvar?"

Bevan stares off into space.


:lolwave:

so naughty

:heart: it

[Skirmisher]

I didn't see Bevan do anything wrong there.

[AnticorRifling]

He didn't but his actions in the past hardly make for grade A quality for mentor selection

[mgoddess]

Granted I've not had much interaction with Bevan myself, the bit of RP interaction I have had with him, I've never seen any sort of OOC'ness from him...

Guess maybe I need to start earning more money so I can make pay events so I can see the good OOC'ness...

[Asha]

There goes the assumption you were Morgauses' player.

I, of course, could have just looked at your location in the profile.
Duh. :(

[Amber]

That's actually cool that mentors welcome brand new players. Wish one had been there for me my first day when I found myself lost and locked out of Icemule without the five silvers needed to pay the guard, no idea how to pay him if I had them, and no clue how to fight. My friend who'd talked me into playing had to come all the way there from the landing to rescue me. I was so utterly clueless.

[Anebriated]

I remember my first day in game I attacked a NPC because it was the first thing I saw. Then I got arrested for hooliganism and lost the few starter items they gave out because I couldnt pay the fine. Mentor woulda been helpful. I did get them on a few chars I made since though.

[Edited on 6-28-2005 by Elrodin]

[Jolena]

Hah, I still remember being thrown in the pokey for attempting to steal (with my brand new rogue of course!) from an NPC, getting released and streaking across town. Several folks stopped and laughed and I still got 3/4 of the way back to the constables office to pick up my gear before I realized Jolena was nekked. :lol: Good times.

[Stunseed]

For someone who likes to bitch about RP, you certainly take the cake with that, Fengus.

[Leetahkin]

Okay, I really feel like a dweeb, but I don't know what the "l337" means.

I should make a thread to find out what all these symbol word things mean. :blush:

<--- feels so out of the loop

[Artha]

Urbandictionary is your friend.

[Gigantuous]

Well, I got a good laugh out of it.

[Leetahkin]

Originally posted by Artha
Urbandictionary is your friend.

::sighs:: so I got the regular dictionary, the British slang dictionary :smilegrin: and now this one.

So tiring keeping up with everything!

[Meges]

Originally posted by Nobody Cares
Okay, I really feel like a dweeb, but I don't know what the "l337" means.

I should make a thread to find out what all these symbol word things mean. :blush:

<--- feels so out of the loop

It means elite. Leet, short for elite, and l337 is the way it's usually written in l337 speak.

Meges

[Artha]

l337 is how it's written by people that aren't exactly "with it" when they want to look cool. Think of your parents saying rad. It's like that.

1337 or l33t are probably the most common variants. It's also a sort of English bastardization (l33t 5p34k) in which numbers replace letters and words are frequently misspelled.

:cool2:

[mgoddess]

Originally posted by Drayal
There goes the assumption you were Morgauses' player.

I, of course, could have just looked at your location in the profile.
Duh. :(

This directed at me? *blush*

[SpunGirl]

Wait.... you made a character, then purposely did something retarded so you could take a swipe at people who are trying to help. Yeah, that makes sense.

Granted, Bevan might not the bestest of examples, but he did exactly what he should have done. Maybe we should hear his opinion on this - where HAS Galleazzo been lately, anyway?

-K

[Fengus]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
Wait.... you made a character, then purposely did something retarded so you could take a swipe at people who are trying to help. Yeah, that makes sense.

Uhh, no, I created a character with the intention of playing a new character, and when this happened, I figured I'd play the part. His stilted diatribe was amusing, but the thrust of the post here was possibly sharing a laugh. Damn, chill out people.







Originally posted by Artha
l337 is how it's written by people that aren't exactly "with it" when they want to look cool. Think of your parents saying rad. It's like that.

1337 or l33t are probably the most common variants. It's also a sort of English bastardization (l33t 5p34k) in which numbers replace letters and words are frequently misspelled.

One small flaw in this reasoning, the entire point of this is one of breaking fundamental rules of communication. You setting out the rules shows just how un-with-it you are, and how far you are from the origin of elite and all its varieties. You picked it up in AOL chat rooms no doubt, and now lay claim to knowledge which you cannot use, nor understand?

[SpunGirl]

Yeah, Artha, you are so un-with-it. Sheesh. :jerkit:

-K

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Fengus

Uhh, no, I created a character with the intention of playing a new character, and when this happened, I figured I'd play the part. His stilted diatribe was amusing, but the thrust of the post here was possibly sharing a laugh. Damn, chill out people.


I think i'm relatively 'chilled out' I just disagree with your take on what occurred.


Did you not say that the entire concept of mentors is ooc?

If that is so then I do not quite follow why you felt the need to go overboard to show how ooc it is.

If you are a real newcomer toGS then a mentor may be quite helpful, if you are a more experienceed player starting a new character it takes but seconds to say that to the mentor in a whisper.

It seems to me you took advantage to have your fun at the expense of another.

[Stunseed]

< I think i'm relatively 'chilled out' I just disagree with your take on what occurred. >

I think Fengus just likes to bitch, seriously. I find his complaining about EVERYTHING funny after he does something like this.

[Fengus]

Of course my fans, the resident married fat couple, has to always chime in their two cents, despite the worth being considerably less.

The post wasn't a bitch it was humor, your post on the other hand was a bitch, the worst kind of bitch, bitching about bitching. Try spending your days more constructively, you can start by thinking up better names for future characters. And don't play the reverse game again, its incredibly lame.

[Stunseed]

Take another hormone pill, Fengus. Your tears are making stains on your keyboard. Try spending your days a little more constructively and NOT bitch, whine, moan, and cry.

Also, who exactly are you to judge worth? You are the dumbass who was trying to pawn off a little wizard like it was worth something. Script a little harder, and you might be able to make a little more money than your disability check is worth.

[Artha]

One small flaw in this reasoning, the entire point of this is one of breaking fundamental rules of communication. You setting out the rules shows just how un-with-it you are, and how far you are from the origin of elite and all its varieties. You picked it up in AOL chat rooms no doubt, and now lay claim to knowledge which you cannot use, nor understand?
1337 isn't about breaking rules, it's about 23v01u710n.

[Fengus]

Originally posted by Stunseed
Also, who exactly are you to judge worth? You are the dumbass who was trying to pawn off a little wizard like it was worth something.

The wizard sold on eBay, and in line with the nature of auctions the bidders determine value, dumbass.

Why am I explaining this to you, are you stupid?

[Stunseed]

You reneged on a bid on PC because you couldn't handle Hast was a piss poor Wizard, and you couldn't get your Ho-Ho's on a dollar that he's really worth.

Now explain to me why you bitched out on someone's bid, you moron. Oh yeah, you did nothing but moan and whine because the auction didn't go your way. You suck at auctions and at life. Enjoy the ding-dongs you got for Hast.

[Letum]

Asreal [faint]: "Mothra. Where are you?"
Bevan [faint]: "With Ghidra, I expect"

Ill admit, I snickered a little.

[Terminator X]

yo, I remember this dude named Merryleon. he was a dwarf

He was the best damn ooc- esque character ever hehehe

[Ravenswing]

The amusing thing about this is that if I hadn't said anything at all to the newbie, the turnipheads here would be writing whiny posts saying "Ooooo, Bevan's condoning leetspeek, the mentors suck!" Or if I said anything in the clear that *wasn't* formal, the turnipheads' whiny posts would be "Ooooo, Bevan's breaking character to talk to newbies, the mentors suck!"

And by the bye, if some of you wailing about me going OOC have any proof of it, feel free to post it. I'll go off to grab some tea whilst I wait.

This brand of whiny misanthropy is why I do not participate here, because in my previous couple day foray, for every thoughtful person who came here to post out from under Simu's control, there were two foul mouthed, bitter liars spreading their spew, because they completely lacked lives. 8000 posts of it, my, where do some of you find the time?

That aside, as far as "stealing" newbies go -- quite frankly, teaching newbies is our job. That's why the Mentors exist. Some of us have been doing it for all of Gemstone's history. It is certainly great when the rest of the player base helps out, and we sure encourage that, but whining when we do our jobs makes about as much sense as turning an indignant stare to the policeman and saying "Where do you get off arresting this guy, we were going to beat him up ourselves!"

That some of you don't like the Mentors is par for the course, although in my experience the vast majority of those who don't are pissed off because they applied and were turned down, because the notion of any player given a job they don't themselves have drives them nuts, because an enemy of theirs is in the Order, or are in the aforementioned category of whiny misanthropes who just plain hate everything.

In any event, your objections to the Order's existence is noted, and treated with as much consideration as they deserve.

Peace.

[StrayRogue]

Someone can't sleep at night. It must be the AIDs.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Ravenswing
This brand of whiny misanthropy is why I do not participate here, because in my previous couple day foray, for every thoughtful person who came here to post out from under Simu's control, there were two foul mouthed, bitter liars spreading their spew, because they completely lacked lives. 8000 posts of it, my, where do some of you find the time?



Yet you have "participated" here. Obviously something touched a nerve. Probably because no one respects you (if this is Bevan), no one much likes you and certainly no one thinks of you as some RP king. Quite the opposite actually. Get over yourself, is my advice.

[Skirmisher]

Bashing those that post here when that number includes you is kinda.....dumb.

[Warriorbird]

Eh... I think your little Bevan obsession is kind've sad, Stay. While I consider him a friend, I'll admit he does a lot of things that could offend people. I don't think any of them are being OOC in GS, however. If you want to nonspecifically and inaccurately flame him you could just make a topic for it.

[StrayRogue]

He's the type of player who thinks GS owes him something. The kind of player who whines on the boards constantly about how the game should be run and how idiots should be punished and blah blah blah. The type who says its going down the tubes due to none GM enforced OOC which he himself contributes too and, similar to Naiomi Chan, thinks that his shit smells better than most. Personally just because you've been spending most your life playing a computer game, because you were there "at the beginning" and because you're a host now doesn't mean you're anything.

[Edited on 1-7-05 by StrayRogue]

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
While I consider him a friend, I'll admit he does a lot of things that could offend people.

Now that you mention it... what offends me is that he posts here anonymously (or so he thinks) as someone who constantly states how he would NEVER want to be a mentor. Stupid.

-K

[HouseofElves]

--14439 topics/ 364474 posts / 2174 members
Please welcome our newest member Ravenswing.
The most online ever was 228 on 10-26-2004; 11:56 PM.


Guess this got his attention.

[SpunGirl]

Yeah, so he could create a second name to post under. That way he could respond as Bevan instead of having to reply with a generic response and then deny that he's Bevan.

-K

[4a6c1]

Originally posted by Ravenswing
It is certainly great when the rest of the player base helps out, and we sure encourage that, but whining when we do our jobs makes about as much sense as turning an indignant stare to the policeman and saying "Where do you get off arresting this guy, we were going to beat him up ourselves!"


^Although this was funny. Beven gets minus 100 FUN POINTS for whining about people whining about people whining.

:P

[CrystalTears]

Whining about people here, when he's a HUGE contributor to the whining in other threads. Just not as this guy. Why can't people just post as themselves? We already know who Bevan is who posts regularly. This just makes you look more pathetic. All that was missing was starting the post with "Lord liftin' Christ!".


And they're volunteers who do it because they feel like it. They don't get paid for it and they do it on their free time. For the shit they take from some tools, damn, I wouldn't be one if you gave me GS free to do it.


You are just plain so full of shit it pours out your ears, guy. I've interacted with a lot of mentors on that list and I don't know ANY who go OOC.


<------------------ Not a Mentor either.


Biggest problem with the Mentors ain't the time -- if you can't log six hours a month unscheduled, the heck with you. It's that frigged up pacifism policy.


The deal with Vaalor is that Simu's pushing this free trial subs hard. New gens from those accounts ALWAYS go to Vaalor, you can't go anywhere else. That's why Vaalor's getting hammered with clueless noobs.

And yeah, that's what mentors get all the time.

Oh really. :jerkit:

[Edited on 7/1/2005 by CrystalTears]

[Warriorbird]

1. I'm confused at how you think he manages Hosting with obsessive amount of Mentoring he does, Stay. I think you're working under a misplaced assumption.

2. He sure has a ton of faults... that doesn't mean any of them are being OOC in GS. Hit him up for being pompous on the boards, hit him up for his morals, but at least be accurate.

[StrayRogue]

So if I see him being OOC its nots not really OOC? Ok....

[Warriorbird]

I'd like an example. I've seen a lot of good things and bad things from him, but nothing OOC.

Responses to you tossing nonsense at him about being a Host or him doing Mentor duties does not count.

[Edited on 7-1-2005 by Warriorbird]

[StrayRogue]

If I can be bothered I'll pull some logs from the first run of the WD where he was doing alot of whining at merchants and over the amulet about how there wasn't a map on the website and how he thought it was poor that the GMs wouldn't provide one as "on any normal ship they would have".

As for doing the host thing, the day I said anything on these boards about that he send me a U2U that said effectively: Fuck You. As Spun said above, why create a new account here and act like you haven't posted before when we all know that he has.

[Warriorbird]

If the first thing is true, it is certainly not what I'd expect from him. It would certainly have left me pissed off at him.

As for the second? I still think you are confused.

[Edited on 7-1-2005 by Warriorbird]

[Asha]

The first thing was true.

[StrayRogue]

Ah so he hasn't posted on these boards before and he didn't U2U me after I outed him as a host. Congrats on rewriting history.

[Warriorbird]

He's certainly posted on these boards before, Stay. U2Uing you does not mean he is a host, however.

Sounds pretty pathetic then, Drayal. I wasn't on the Wavedancer but I'll take your word for it.

[Edited on 7-1-2005 by Warriorbird]

[Sean]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
I'd like an example. I've seen a lot of good things and bad things from him, but nothing OOC.

Responses to you tossing nonsense at him about being a Host or him doing Mentor duties does not count.

[Edited on 7-1-2005 by Warriorbird]

Someone already posted him referencing Ghidrah on the amunet in response to a question of where someone was. You can spin it however you like though.

[Warriorbird]

Eh. I think some folks interpreted him being careless with someone else's confidence as him being a Gamehost. Believe what you want... if anything, I think he's being given too much credit.



[Edited on 7-1-2005 by Warriorbird]

[HouseofElves]

I think Bevan is a fun guy to talk with and a real artist---most of the time. But I've seen a lot of songs he's done that are RL songs and he's just changed the words to suit a GS situation. I'm sorry but NOTHING, and I mean nothing done by GS players irks me more then this. Trying to cover up something out of game by making it in game. It's just silly.

Also Bevan has said things about gods and forces (in reference to GMs) that has made me roll my eyes. As well as referring to the "town tree" and websites in a half-in character way during STA meetings.

Bevan is still one person who I enjoy interacting with but you can't say he doesn't go OOC. He does, and fairly publically.

[Landrion]

Originally posted by Tijay

Originally posted by Warriorbird
I'd like an example. I've seen a lot of good things and bad things from him, but nothing OOC.

Responses to you tossing nonsense at him about being a Host or him doing Mentor duties does not count.

[Edited on 7-1-2005 by Warriorbird]

Someone already posted him referencing Ghidrah on the amunet in response to a question of where someone was. You can spin it however you like though.

I dunno if Id fault someone for making a snide comment on an ooc name personally.

In fact, if you want to use the lame defense the Gms prefer. How do you know there wasnt a character named Ghidra too? He was referring to a Mothra in the first place.