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Overlord
06-24-2005, 08:23 AM
I obtained this from the IGN site.

Speculation about X-Men 3 is running rampant online so let's begin sifting fact from rumor (or flat-out fiction), shall we? Here's what we know thus far:

X-Men 3 is slated to begin filming this July in Vancouver, B.C. for a May 26, 2006 release. The second sequel will be directed by Matthew Vaughn (Layer Cake), who succeeds Bryan Singer. The screenplay is being written by Simon Kinberg (Fantastic Four) and Zak Penn (who shares story credit on X2: X-Men United).

Reliable sources advised IGN FilmForce that the screenwriters are working on two separate drafts of the same script, not unlike how Penn and Michael Dougherty & Dan Harris collaborated on X2. Apparently, this approach is standard operating procedure at 20th Century Fox.

Marvel Studios' CEO Avi Arad will produce along with Lauren Shuler Donner and Ralph Winter.

The Cast
Cast members confirmed as returning are Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, Famke Janssen as the not-so-dead Jean Grey, and Anna Paquin as Rogue. Halle Berry, Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart are in talks to reprise their roles as Storm, Magneto and Professor X, respectively. Alan Cumming (Nightcrawler) is contractually obligated for the film. Moviehole spoke with X3 scribe Kinberg who confirmed that James Marsden (a.k.a. Cyclops) will return briefly for the film. He did not elaborate further on how or why Cyclops will have such a small role. Marsden, it should be noted, will also be appearing in a supporting role in the new Superman movie directed by Bryan Singer. (There is reportedly a big rivalry between the two comic books movies and their respective studios, with Fox said to be peeved that Singer jumped ship for Warner Bros.)

No word yet on whether Rebecca (Mystique) Romijn, Aaron (Pyro) Stanford, Shawn (Iceman) Ashmore, or Daniel (Colossus) Cudmore will return for X3. Ditto Tyler (Sabretooth) Mane or Ray (Toad) Park.

New mutant characters will include Beast, Gambit and Angel. Yes, Angel will be male and not female as erroneously reported elsewhere. Fans should not expect Gambit to play a major role in the story. It seems he's included more to appease the fans than anything else. No word yet on who will play them but don't expect to see the actors who previously made cameos as Hank McCoy or Gambit, respectively, to be in X3. Bigger name thesps will be cast.

The Story
While plot details have been kept closely under wraps, X3 will indeed use the "Dark Phoenix" storyline from the X-Men comics as its basis. That said, it won't be a literal adaptation. Expect the film to be a Wolverine-driven story, since Fox is developing a Wolverine spin-off film for Jackman (scripted by Troy's David Benioff). "It should never be this one story. The main characters are more important than Jean Grey," Avi Arad recently advised Empire Online. "This is a bigger story. Everybody's expecting Dark Phoenix, but Dark Phoenix would never be the main show. She'll be one of the characters, that's it. There are a lot of stories to tell."

The fact that Marsden will only have a small role as Cyclops suggests that an ill fate might be in store for the character.

Despite recent rumors, there will be no appearances made by Dr. Bolivar Trask, the Sentinels, Sebastian Shaw, or Mr. Sinister; however, fans should expect there to be some human secondary characters with their own nefarious agendas.

By the way, the Danger Room will finally be seen ... unless Fox trims the budget (that's why the Danger Room was dropped from the past two films).

Conclusion
By all accounts, this will be the final X-Men film. Spin-offs like Wolverine and (young) Magneto are in the works at Fox so fans will still have some mutant movies to look forward to down the line. Then again, if X3 proves as big (or bigger) a hit than X2 then perhaps Fox will reconsider. We'll know more after May 26, 2006

StrayRogue
06-24-2005, 08:39 AM
Shame, it sounds like they've fucked it up a bit by the cast being rearranged or unconfirmed as well as a new director and new writers. X2 was an excellent film but I can't help but feel this new one is going to suck.

Warriorbird
06-24-2005, 08:42 AM
Alan Cumming's not going to be in it, according to him.

CrystalTears
06-24-2005, 08:42 AM
According to IMDB (http://www.imdb.com), Rebecca Romijn-Stamos will be returning as Mystique. Beast is going to be played by Kelsey Grammer (Frasier, in case you were wondering) which I think would do the role well.

He also didn't mention that Shadowcat would be introduced as well, originally cast by Maggie Grace, but since it would interfere with Lost, they may have to get someone else.

Juggernaut will be returning, but it won't be the same kid as from the last movie, he will be played by Vinnie Jones (if you saw Eurotrip, he was the Manchester hot-headed guy :D).

It doesn't surprise me that they're bringing in Dark Phoenix, but if what they say is true that this will be the last movie on it, bringing her in as just a supporting role and not really making her a main character is almost pointless (to me personally because I love that character). Why even bother, they should have just left her as Jean Grey and develop the other characters and/or bring in new ones. Just seems cruel to just spot shoot popular characters but not do anything with them (that includes Gambit as well).

And sadly, Nightcrawler may or may not be in it, but it won't be by Alan Cummings (I'm really sad about that). He was supposed to, as he was originally on the casting, but he was removed recently because he's not doing it.

[Edited on 6/24/2005 by CrystalTears]

StrayRogue
06-24-2005, 08:44 AM
Weird. I'd have suspected the entire movie to be about Phoenix (considering they set up the last movie for her return). And along that vein I'd imagine that Cyclops would be pretty much involved alot. Yep, I have that sinking feeling...

Parkbandit
06-24-2005, 08:45 AM
BRING IN THE SENTINELS DAMMIT.

Numbers
06-24-2005, 11:26 AM
Been hearing bad things about the movie. Apparently a lot of the main stars are trying to have their characters killed off, probably so that if a fourth one gets made they wouldn't be involved. I don't think they should only focus on Wolverine, since he was pretty much the focus of 1 & 2, regardless if they're doing a Wolverine spinoff. Also weird that they're not including Nightcrawler, since he was a fan favorite from 2.

Oh well. It's a franchise that could've gone on for a while without getting stale, if done right, but it doesn't look like that'll happen.

Also a shame that Singer left to do Superman. He's a pretty boring superhero, which will probably lead to a boring superhero movie.

StrayRogue
06-24-2005, 11:27 AM
They're only redoing the Superman movie due to the popularity of Smallville.

Jonty
06-24-2005, 12:17 PM
Juggernaut will be returning, but it won't be the same kid as from the last movie, he will be played by Vinnie Jones (if you saw Eurotrip, he was the Manchester hot-headed guy ).

Where did you see Juggernaut in X2?

CrystalTears
06-24-2005, 12:23 PM
Oops. Sorry. My bad, Jonty. You're right. I got him confused with Colossus. :blush:

Divinity
06-24-2005, 01:00 PM
He also didn't mention that Shadowcat would be introduced as well, originally cast by Maggie Grace, but since it would interfere with Lost, they may have to get someone else.

Uhm, she was in the first X-Men movie. She didn't have a huge part, but she was featured.

I wonder if they're going to bring out Jubilee (sp?). She sucked, but at least she was a part at one point. Heh.

Anyways, I feel what Stray was saying. I can't help but think they're going to butcher it and that really does suck.

StrayRogue
06-24-2005, 01:01 PM
Jubilee is in both films already.

Divinity
06-24-2005, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
Jubilee is in both films already.

Where at?! Granted it's been awhile since I've seen X-2, but I don't remember any mention of her. :?:

CrystalTears
06-24-2005, 01:03 PM
Where was Shadowcat in the first movie? I'll have to go back and watch the movie again.

Jubilee doesn't say much in the first movie, you just see her in the classes. You definitely notice her more in the second movie, especially when they're in the museum.

[Edited on 6/24/2005 by CrystalTears]

StrayRogue
06-24-2005, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by Divinity

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Jubilee is in both films already.

Where at?! Granted it's been awhile since I've seen X-2, but I don't remember any mention of her. :?:

In X-1 you can see her in the class room. She has a small speaking roll in X1.5 while in X2 I think she just says "Are you alright Professor" at the end.

Divinity
06-24-2005, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by CrystalTears
Where was Shadowcat in the first movie? I'll have to go back and watch the movie again.

When Wolverine first walked in on Professor X at the school when he woke up there. She runs through the wall.

Divinity
06-24-2005, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue

Originally posted by Divinity

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Jubilee is in both films already.

Where at?! Granted it's been awhile since I've seen X-2, but I don't remember any mention of her. :?:

In X-1 you can see her in the class room. She has a small speaking roll in X1.5 while in X2 I think she just says "Are you alright Professor" at the end.

Ahh, I stand corrected. I'll have to go watch them again too. :lol:

Maybe we can throw a X-Men slumber party. :rolleyes: Ugh, my memory sucks.. I'm getting old.

CrystalTears
06-24-2005, 01:08 PM
My bad. I forgot that they never call her Shadowcat, just Kitty.

StrayRogue
06-24-2005, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Divinity

Originally posted by StrayRogue

Originally posted by Divinity

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Jubilee is in both films already.

Where at?! Granted it's been awhile since I've seen X-2, but I don't remember any mention of her. :?:

In X-1 you can see her in the class room. She has a small speaking roll in X1.5 while in X2 I think she just says "Are you alright Professor" at the end.

Ahh, I stand corrected. I'll have to go watch them again too. :lol:

Maybe we can throw a X-Men slumber party. :rolleyes: Ugh, my memory sucks.. I'm getting old.

You won't notice unless you watch X.5 (which is the uncut stuff ont he DVD). She's just another extra otherwise. I wouldn't know unless I'd watched it.

Divinity
06-25-2005, 11:40 AM
Well the explains a whole lot. I never saw it on DVD, only the movies and on tv.