Crystal Tears and Tsa'ah

[theotherjohn]

Look

if you two are going to delete every post that I do here just because I am an alliance player then fucking say so, I will quit posting.

If not stop your double standard bullshit. I have already pointed out 5 posts including the one by Tsa'ah that was off topic and contained TBF and they have not been removed

[CrystalTears]

The ones before his post were left, and included some of yours. All others were removed. There is no conspiracy or anything sinister here. If anyone else posts something along those lines, they will be removed, regardless of their faction with WoW.

[Wezas]

This is the third post about this issue within about 30 minutes.

How bout giving the mods a few minutes to fix the problem?

It looks like CT has already deleted all the posts after Tsa'ah's warning about going off-topic and creating a new post about the rivalry.

[Parkbandit]

Alliance scum deserve no soap box. Delete this entire thread until he kneels down and joins the Horde.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
Alliance scum deserve no soap box. Delete this entire thread until he kneels down and joins the Horde.

You sir, are off topic. Mods please remove his post or edit it so that he praises the democratic party.

[Nieninque]

This isn't any new way of doing it.
If threads begin to go off topic, there is generally a warning.
If further off topic posts are posted, they get teh assploded.
Posts prior to the warning are generally left unless they are against TOS.
It's not new.
It's not just you.
It's the paranoia.

Yeah, I just noticed that I am being repressed as well. PB's diagram explaining the difference between A, B, & C teams was deleted, as well as my subsequent replies!!!

DENNIS:
Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR:
Bloody peasant!
DENNIS:
Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?

[CrystalTears]

It wasn't deleted, it was split into its own thread. ;)

[Edited on 6/22/2005 by CrystalTears]

[Wezas]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
It wasn't deleted, it was split into its own thread. ;)


Yep! See, the mods have their shit together.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/viewthread.php?tid=15608

[Skirmisher]

Next time a U2U first might give you the answer to your concern without the need to make a whole additional thread complaining about something prematurely.

[Tsa`ah]

:lol2:

Nothing like a little controversy.

Look Einstein ... It had jack to do with the faction you play, it had everything to do with the attempt to turn the thread into something it wasn't.

Take the meds, step away from the computer, find a heavy blunt object and smash it against your skull. Repeat as needed.

[ElanthianSiren]

...damn, I feel the love. :D

-Melissa

[DeV]

:aww:

[Toxicvixen]

You're now saying they are deleting your posts because your alliance? :lol: Dude get a freaking life.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
It wasn't deleted, it was split into its own thread. ;)

[Edited on 6/22/2005 by CrystalTears]


no my posts are still deleted

[StrayRogue]

THE CONSPIRACY CONTINUES

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Toxicvixen
You're now saying they are deleting your posts because your alliance? :lol: Dude get a freaking life.

and yes dumb bitch who was not reading the message board this morning that is exactly what I am saying because it is true

[Skirmisher]

I blame Reaganomics.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by Toxicvixen
You're now saying they are deleting your posts because your alliance? :lol: Dude get a freaking life.

and yes dumb bitch who was not reading the message board this morning that is exactly what I am saying because it is true

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

EARTH TO TOJ, EARTH TO TOJ.. COME IN TOJ...

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by Toxicvixen
You're now saying they are deleting your posts because your alliance? :lol: Dude get a freaking life.

and yes dumb bitch who was not reading the message board this morning that is exactly what I am saying because it is true

So what you are saying is your a fucking moron who can't accept the fact that he's being a douche. Gotcha.

[crazymage]

The Barren Fury will scare anyone into pyschotic breaks like toj is having.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by crazymage
The Barren Fury will scare anyone into pyschotic breaks like toj is having.

ok mods why is this off topic post still allowed?

I bet it is the same reason that his and the other off topic posts that contain stuff about the TBF is allowed.

[Trinitis]

It is in responce to the moronic way you are reacting in this thread. It looks like it is on topic, and right on in my book.

[crazymage]

im merely offering an opinion as to why youre insane and blaming staff members. its totally ontopic

[Skirmisher]

I don't know, maybe because you are calling people bitches and the like.

Sounds alot like someone likes dishing it out alot more than taking it.:punch:

[Toxicvixen]

Can't take the heat stay out of the Crossroads. I mean kitchen. :D

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Toxicvixen
Can't take the heat stay out of the Crossroads. I mean kitchen. :D

ok CT I know you are looking at this thread then delete the off topic posts

[Toxicvixen]

She won't delete me! I'm Horde! :D

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Toxicvixen
She won't delete me! I'm Horde! :D

another one?

what is up CT?

they are mocking you and every other mod not doing the job here

[Skirmisher]

You ot the mocking part right.

Just rethink the target and you'll be in business!

[crazymage]

no we're mocking your mocking.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by crazymage
no we're mocking your mocking.

dont be scared CT do your job here as a Mod

[Tsa`ah]

Demands for editing are generally ignored. That and this is the "Forum Concerns and Discussion" folder. Unless it's something forbidden by the TOS, no one but Kranar and Harm are going to touch it.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
Demands for editing are generally ignored. That and this is the "Forum Concerns and Discussion" folder. Unless it's something forbidden by the TOS, no one but Kranar and Harm are going to touch it.

no edit remove

starting with your fucking off post topics about TBF

or be a fucking pussy like CT and log out

[Skirmisher]

Yeah, she logged because she is just too intimidated by you TOJ.

Really, try dacaf. You're losing it.

[Trinitis]

Or...She could have logged off because she went home. She was on at work.

Atop that, she was at work, meaning the chance of her actually LOOKING at the open website was slim. She checks it when she can, between things at work.

Who'da thunked it?

[crazymage]

or she thinks hes a dumbass and went to laugh.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by crazymage
or she thinks hes a dumbass and went to laugh.

personal attack and off topic

come on mods do your job!!!!

[crazymage]

i never said i do! i said she COULD. again just an opinion

[Toxicvixen]

Someone really needs to change your diaper. Quit your whining its getting a bit old.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Toxicvixen
Someone really needs to change your diaper. Quit your whining its getting a bit old.

off topic

six mods online and not a one willing to do their job and delete off topic posts

[Edited on 6-22-2005 by theotherjohn]

[Miss X]

Ok guys, I think we can give it a rest for now please.

[crazymage]

this whole topic is you whining, so shes right on topic.

[peam]

theotherjohn,

please quit complaining and get back on topic.

thanks.

[Sean]

A couple of points here...

A. Crying for CT or Tsa`ah to delete posts in a folder where they are not a moderators for is dumb, sarcasm or not.
B. Replying to every post saying xyz is off topic is just as off topic as the post before it. Use the report button if you feel like being an ass otherwise just stop.
C. We mods have lives too. We don't devote 24 hours a day to reading topics sometimes it takes some time for us to get around to it. Especially when you go about reporting posts the wrong way so we aren't notified. You can thank yourself for it taking so long for us to get around to editing the posts for not using the proper function.
D. This is your chance to correct your own thread and either continue your hissyfit or let it die. If the trend of off topic posts continue and this thread becomes problematic eventually I'll be forced to close it. Consider this your (everyone) warning to stay on topic.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Tijay
A couple of points here...

A. Crying for CT or Tsa`ah to delete posts in a folder where they are not a moderators for is dumb, sarcasm or not.
B. Replying to every post saying xyz is off topic is just as off topic as the post before it. Use the report button if you feel like being an ass otherwise just stop.
C. We mods have lives too. We don't devote 24 hours a day to reading topics sometimes it takes some time for us to get around to it. Especially when you go about reporting posts the wrong way so we aren't notified. You can thank yourself for it taking so long for us to get around to editing the posts for not using the proper function.
D. This is your chance to correct your own thread and either continue your hissyfit or let it die. If the trend of off topic posts continue and this thread becomes problematic eventually I'll be forced to close it. Consider this your (everyone) warning to stay on topic.

a couple of points here
A. it is ok for mods to come into threads they are not mods and delete my posts
B. it is ok for mods to make off topic posts and other mods do nothing about it
C. When mods are viewing the thread the same time I am, their excuse about using the proper channel is lame
D. Funny how you talk about so long to remove others posts when my posts get removed immediately

[Showal]

Yeah, CT's a jerk. Like the time she removed her avatar of angelina jolie? WTF was up with that? It pissed me off for at least 2 or 3 days.

Tsa'ah too. Bringing up good points and usually making me laugh? What an asshole.

[Sean]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

a couple of points here
A. it is ok for mods to come into threads they are not mods and delete my posts
B. it is ok for mods to make off topic posts and other mods do nothing about it
C. When mods are viewing the thread the same time I am, their excuse about using the proper channel is lame
D. Funny how you talk about so long to remove others posts when my posts get removed immediately

A. No it isn't because the boards don't allow you do so. In most cases unless they do an extreme workaround.
B. No it isn't.
C. If that mod isn't a supermod/admin then it doesn't matter if they are reading or not .. refer to A.
D. I wont get into specifics because I don't have them infront of me. But hey I can't stop you from believing whatever you want.

[Edited on 6-22-2005 by Tijay]

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
a couple of points here
A. it is ok for mods to come into threads they are not mods and delete my posts

I stepped into the folder in the absence of CT to curb yet another topic from being derailed. You received a U2U informing you of the action taken. I posted the U2U in the violations folder. At that point it was CT's prerogative to replace the post, disagreeing with my action, or leave it be, thus agreeing with my action. I would not have taken the described action in a folder moderated by more than one person, or a folder pertaining to a topic I was unfamiliar with.

Overstepping my bounds? Perhaps slightly, then again I'm familiar with CT and wouldn't have performed an action she wouldn't have agreed with.


B. it is ok for mods to make off topic posts and other mods do nothing about it

An off-topic post in the form of a warning by a mod is not subject to the same guidelines as an off topic post made by someone who wishes to continue a conflict in a thread that has nothing to do with said conflict.


C. When mods are viewing the thread the same time I am, their excuse about using the proper channel is lame

Become familiar with the mechanics of this forum before making assumptions. I can open a thread and walk away from the computer and return an hour later and have no idea that several posts have been made unless I refresh. Unless I log out, I am still shown as viewing a page for some time after the window is closed.

I know I'm not going to change my browsing habits to satiate your dysfunction as I'm sure no one else on this forum will either.


D. Funny how you talk about so long to remove others posts when my posts get removed immediately

From reading the gist of CT's subsequent post in the violation folder, the post was nothing more than another trolling attempt.

One of these days people will come to understand my analogy of dogs, dog shit, and the human intellect.

[Edited on 6-22-2005 by Tsa`ah]

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
[quote]
blah blah blah I posted the below off topic comment about my guild and nothing is going to be done about it



Come off it already. I'd like to read one fucking thread in the WoW folder that doesn't turn into a Carp vs TBF thread.

If you want some guild vs guild action start a thread and set a time and date ... I'll be more than happy to show up.

[Jolena]

Originally posted by Tijay

a couple of points here
A. it is ok for mods to come into threads they are not mods and delete my posts


A. No it isn't because the boards don't allow you do so. In most cases unless they do an extreme workaround.


[Edited on 6-22-2005 by Tijay] [/quote]

guess Tsa'ah's response just blew that particular theory out of the water. Not that I'm saying he was wrong to delete it because I don't even know what the thread was at when it was edited, but obviously a mod who is not a mod of a particular folder can still go in and delete/edit posts as Tsa'ah said he did it for CT in her absence.

[HarmNone]

The individual moderators are free to decide what is off-topic and what is not in their individual folders. TOJ, you will be aware of every post of yours that is deleted or edited. You may, or may not, be aware of every post, made by anyone, that is deleted or edited.

While you may find something off-topic in relation to how YOU see a given thread, the moderator of that topic may view things differently. It is the moderator who will make the decision, and that moderator will edit/delete posts as they decide on the relevancy of said posts, and as they are able to do so.

As has often been said, if one brings oneself to the forefront of scrutiny, one is often scrutinized more than one would like. That is a fact of life.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Jolena

Originally posted by Tijay

a couple of points here
A. it is ok for mods to come into threads they are not mods and delete my posts


A. No it isn't because the boards don't allow you do so. In most cases unless they do an extreme workaround.


[Edited on 6-22-2005 by Tijay]

guess Tsa'ah's response just blew that particular theory out of the water. Not that I'm saying he was wrong to delete it because I don't even know what the thread was at when it was edited, but obviously a mod who is not a mod of a particular folder can still go in and delete/edit posts as Tsa'ah said he did it for CT in her absence. [/quote]

It is possible for a moderator to step in for another moderator, if it is deemed to be in the best interests of a given thread, or the boards in general. It isn't done that often, because it doesn't need to be. However, when it becomes necessary, it can be done.

The moderators work it out between themselves. Thankfully, they're fully capable of doing so. If they need an arbiter, I'm here. It's never been needed. They're a darned good group! :)

[Trinitis]

Not really Jolena. As Tijay stated, it takes a hearty workaround for us to be able to deal with problem posts in a section not governed by us. But, having this in place is two fold.

1. It allows us to fix something that REALLY needs to be fixed, if no one else is around.

2. Because it is a workaround, it is time consuming and not used lightly.

It's amazing at how people (not directed at you Jo, just in general) tend to think we mods are without reins. There are checks and balances on these boards.

If I delete something in my topic. I have to make note of my change, with my reasoning. Then Harmnone can over ride any change I make, if she feels it was wrong. Even if she agrees, Kranar can over ride us both and place the post back.

It's not like we do our job willy nilly and do what ever we want.

[Edited on 6-22-2005 by Adredrin]

[Jolena]

I agree, HN. I've never had an issue with a mod on these boards, thankfully. As I said, I'm not placing blame on anyone because I didn't witness any of that mess in the thread so I can't really form an opinion of it. Just found it interesting one mod said that mods can't edit in folders they aren't assigned to and just after that, Tsa'ah came in to say he did just that. Call me curiously interested in that clash of statements I spose. :)

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Jolena
Just found it interesting one mod said that mods can't edit in folders they aren't assigned to and just after that, Tsa'ah came in to say he did just that. Call me curiously interested in that clash of statements I spose. :)

you are not the only one

[Tsa`ah]

As Adri stated, it's a work around and it's not something that is done all that frequently.

Tijay was not incorrect in saying that a mod isn't able to make changes outside of their assigned folders. It requires the thread to be moved, edited, and then moved back. Couple those actions with the normal required proceedure (U2U and documentation in the mod folder) and it is a timely process.

The action would not have been taken had CT, an admin, or supermod been on at the time. Had there been other mods around, a short discussion would have taken place before action was taken.

[Edited on 6-23-2005 by Tsa`ah]

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Jolena
I agree, HN. I've never had an issue with a mod on these boards, thankfully. As I said, I'm not placing blame on anyone because I didn't witness any of that mess in the thread so I can't really form an opinion of it. Just found it interesting one mod said that mods can't edit in folders they aren't assigned to and just after that, Tsa'ah came in to say he did just that. Call me curiously interested in that clash of statements I spose. :)

Hopefully, I explained that in my post, Jolena. I do want you posters to understand how the boards, and moderating, work.

While it is possible for the moderator to work in a topic not his/her own, it's not an easy thing to do, and is done sparingly. It is only done when it is felt to be best for the boards. If there's disagreement, I'll look into it. Fortunately, our mods are a good team, and work it out between themselves, since it's impossible for anybody to be here 24/7. :)

[CrystalTears]

Since Tsa`ah was the only one available at the time of the post, he took care of it for me. He has my permission to step in and take care of something going on in my folders if I'm not around, supermods or admins.

You really are overdramatizing this event. Tsa`ah deleted one post and told you about it. I deleted another one that was posted in the same fashion and I told you about it as well. I put a disclaimer in the thread that any further off topic posts would be deleted. You chose to post 2-3 more times afterwards. The deletion of the posts should not have been a mystery to you.

You're not the only one I've moderated today, and there have been other posts that have been deleted or edited by others. You don't see them complaining this much. And no, none of them were alliance. :rolleyes:

[HarmNone]

Warnings are often put in threads that are veering off-topic. It's fine to have a little joking camaradarie between posters, once in awhile. These boards are here for enjoyable conversation and exchange of information. They are not exclusively for either. They're for both.

Once a warning statement has been entered into a thread, by a moderator, the troublesome behavior should be stopped. If it isn't, the moderator who warned has every right to start deleting/editing posts that fly in the face of that warning. The moderator has no responsibility to start deleting/editing retroactively. If that were the case, we'd be deleting/editing forever. That ain't gonna happen.

When a moderator warns posters to get back on topic, just get back on topic. That way, there won't be any problems with deleted/edited posts.

[Brattt8525]

Good god just accept that sometimes the mods feel the need to edit delete something for the sake of the thread. Actually I am surprised more threads aren't nuked due to going way off topic.

The poor mods must do this alot :banghead:

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Brattt8525
Good god just accept that sometimes the mods feel the need to edit delete something for the sake of the thread. Actually I am surprised more threads aren't nuked due to going way off topic.

The poor mods must do this alot :banghead:

You have NO idea. I think Harmy has gone through at least 4 walls now. We have to get them replaced every few months. :(

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Since Tsa`ah was the only one available at the time of the post, he took care of it for me. He has my permission to step in and take care of something going on in my folders if I'm not around, supermods or admins.

You really are overdramatizing this event. Tsa`ah deleted one post and told you about it. I deleted another one that was posted in the same fashion and I told you about it as well. I put a disclaimer in the thread that any further off topic posts would be deleted. You chose to post 2-3 more times afterwards. The deletion of the posts should not have been a mystery to you.

You're not the only one I've moderated today, and there have been other posts that have been deleted or edited by others. You don't see them complaining this much. And no, none of them were alliance. :rolleyes:

Tsa'ah has no right to delete my post for being off topic then right after it post his own off topic post concerning his guild.

then all the mods continue to allow the same guild continue posting off topic posts.

[HarmNone]

:lol: Sorry about that last wall. Really, I am. That was such a lovely wall...all natural stone, and all. Left me with a helluva headache, too! :S

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by HarmNone
Once a warning statement has been entered into a thread, by a moderator, the troublesome behavior should be stopped. If it isn't, the moderator who warned has every right to start deleting/editing posts that fly in the face of that warning. The moderator has no responsibility to start deleting/editing retroactively. If that were the case, we'd be deleting/editing forever. That ain't gonna happen.



that is the entire point.

The mod did post to stop but other mods who are in TBF continued posting and nothing was done then and nothing is being done now

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Since Tsa`ah was the only one available at the time of the post, he took care of it for me. He has my permission to step in and take care of something going on in my folders if I'm not around, supermods or admins.

You really are overdramatizing this event. Tsa`ah deleted one post and told you about it. I deleted another one that was posted in the same fashion and I told you about it as well. I put a disclaimer in the thread that any further off topic posts would be deleted. You chose to post 2-3 more times afterwards. The deletion of the posts should not have been a mystery to you.

You're not the only one I've moderated today, and there have been other posts that have been deleted or edited by others. You don't see them complaining this much. And no, none of them were alliance. :rolleyes:

Tsa'ah has no right to delete my post for being off topic then right after it post his own off topic post concerning his guild.

then all the mods continue to allow the same guild continue posting off topic posts.

TOJ, the moderator of that particular topic will decide what is off topic and what is not.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
Tsa'ah has no right to delete my post for being off topic then right after it post his own off topic post concerning his guild.

then all the mods continue to allow the same guild continue posting off topic posts.

He said to stop posting rivalry between the two guilds. He also said to start another thread if you wanted to, in so many words.

No other TBF vs CD posts were made after that except for yours, which were deleted. The thread was eventually split so it's all moot now anyway. I don't know of anywhere else where it was asked to not post the rivalry and it continued and only yours were deleted.

First, your game was ruined and you rerolled Alliance. Now your life is being ruined because you are Alliance. Maybe you need to /quit life? Non-fatally of course.

- Arkans

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by HarmNone
TOJ, the moderator of that particular topic will decide what is off topic and what is not.

and the moderator did not

Tsa'ah decided what was off topic in another mods topic, removed my post then posted his own post about his guild

[HarmNone]

Let's cut it out with the death suggestions, eh? The caveat of "non-fatally" isn't really cutting it, ya know? Let's just cut it out. There are better ways to get one's point across.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
Tsa'ah has no right to delete my post for being off topic then right after it post his own off topic post concerning his guild.

First and foremost, you do not dictate what rights I have as a moderator. The action taken was in effort to stop the trolling and derailing in that thread, and hopefully in that folder. I've explained the why and the how, CT did not have an issue with the action, neither has the administration. Your feelings on the subject are not my concern, only the thoughts of other staff members.

Also elaborate on my "off-topic" posts. Do keep in mind that the final say on that subject is at the discretion of CT, the supermods, and the administration. Not you.


then all the mods continue to allow the same guild continue posting off topic posts.

Again, elaborate and keep my previous statement in mind.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
[quote]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
First and foremost, you do not dictate what rights I have as a moderator.

no the TOS does




The role of the Moderator is to guide discussions within his or her respective forum.


so start following the TOS

Tsa'ah had no right to delete threads where he is not a Mod

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
and the moderator did not

Tsa'ah decided what was off topic in another mods topic, removed my post then posted his own post about his guild

Incorrect. 100% bullshit and nothing more.

I made a post telling you, and everyone else, to drop the Carp vs TBF bs from threads not pertaining to that subject and that if the subject were to continue, to create a thread FOR that subject.

At which point you posted a response that had NOTHING to do with either subject, but attacked Harm, who had nothing to do with the thread.

Get your facts straight cry baby.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by HarmNone
Let's cut it out with the death suggestions, eh? The caveat of "non-fatally" isn't really cutting it, ya know? Let's just cut it out. There are better ways to get one's point across.

I thought Kranar said he didnt care about the "plz die!" statements?

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
[quote]

Get your facts straight cry baby.

the facts are in my previous post

you as a Mod do not have rights to delete my post

[HarmNone]

WRONG! Tsa`ah does have the right to edit/delete in thread that he does not moderate if he sees that thread becoming a problem. I have stated that before.

Once Tsa`ah has made that choice, it is up to the moderator of the thread in question to decide, once they're aware of the problem, whether Tsa`ah's decision will stand, or whether it will be changed. That is exactly what was done for the situation in question.

[DeV]

Why don't you just admit that you won't be happy until he is no longer a moderater and call it a day. The mod of the folder had no problem with him deleting the off-topic posts so why are you still taking issue with this?

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
no the TOS does


Sorry, but it does not. The TOS dictates guildlines for conduct, nothing more.


so start following the TOS

Tsa'ah had no right to delete threads where he is not a Mod

My posting habits are within the confines of the TOS. Again, you do not dictate how I am to perform my function as a mod.

[Leetahkin]

TOJ - anything you say will not sway the mods and above. You've stated your case, they stated theirs, theirs overruled.

If you don't like this playground, take your soiled diaper to another one who will coddle you and bend to your every whim.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by HarmNone
WRONG! Tsa`ah does have the right to edit/delete in thread that he does not moderate if he sees that thread becoming a problem. I have stated that before.

Once Tsa`ah has made that choice, it is up to the moderator of the thread in question to decide, once they're aware of the problem, whether Tsa`ah's decision will stand, or whether it will be changed. That is exactly what was done for the situation in question.

this is the paragraph from the TOS to refresh memory


The role of the Moderator is to guide discussions within his or her respective forum.
Since not all forums contain the same theme or subject matter, the Moderator is necessary in order to focus on the needs of a particular forum and direct it towards its best interest as established by its theme and subject. This requires that the Moderator have the ability to institute certain forum specific guidelines on how discussion is to take place. The Moderator may at his or her discretion enforce the rules of this document within his or her folder;
however, that task ultimately lies with the Super Moderator and the Administrator.

Nobody Cares's name is perfect for the sentiment of anyone reading this thread.

- Arkans

[Trinitis]

It is also our job to make sure other areas of the fourms follow the same rules, and, if we must, step in to make sure this happens.

Just because you can sit around all day every day playing games and bitching on PC, don't mean us mods can.

[Edited on 6-23-2005 by Adredrin]

[Snapp]

Originally posted by DeV
Why don't you just admit that you won't be happy until he is no longer a moderater and call it a day.
That's really what it's starting to come across as. Just stop TOJ.

[HarmNone]

however, that task ultimately lies with the Super Moderator and the Administrator.

As the Administrator, I have stated my stance on this subject. The two moderators are in agreement that what was done was the right thing to do. I will back them in their decision. They're working as a team, and that is exactly what I want them to do.

You have stated your displeasure, TOJ. This, you have a right to do. However, unless you have something to add that has not been said before, ad nauseum, I believe the subject has been covered. We are now
:deadhorse:

If this thread continues along current lines, with nothing more than repeated arguments, it will be closed. If anyone has something new to add, we'd be happy to hear it. Otherwise, it has all been said.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by HarmNone
however, that task ultimately lies with the Super Moderator and the Administrator.

As the Administrator, I have stated my stance on this subject. The two moderators are in agreement that what was done was the right thing to do. I will back them in their decision. They're working as a team, and that is exactly what I want them to do.

You have stated your displeasure, TOJ. This, you have a right to do. However, unless you have something to add that has not been said before, ad nauseum, I believe the subject has been covered. We are now
:deadhorse:

If this thread continues along current lines, with nothing more than repeated arguments, it will be closed. If anyone has something new to add, we'd be happy to hear it. Otherwise, it has all been said.

in other words you are so short of mods you will do nothing about it.

thanks for your time :rolleyes:

[Tsa`ah]

Since you want to quote the TOS, I'll throw a few your way.

Pertaining to your new beef (once you found out I wasn't a mod of the WoW folder).


The aforementioned body, known hereafter as the “Staff” of the Players’ Corner, shall continually work together to further and improve the Players’ Corner.

Nuff said on that.

Since you're so familiar with the TOS, I'm sure you already know about these gems.


By viewing or posting on this forum, you acknowledge that you understand and agree to follow the limitations set forth within this document. As such, you are expected to follow the rules set forth within this document and in subsequent changes to this document which will be made known as they occur.

Judging from your outbursts ... I would venture to guess that you have some sort of reading disability.

[Leetahkin]

Originally posted by Arkans
Nobody Cares's name is perfect for the sentiment of anyone reading this thread.

- Arkans

:heart: Arkans

[CrystalTears]

Being short of mods has nothing to do with it. We're choosing new mods as we speak. However even fully staffed, there is always times in any given day where no mods, supermods or admins are around, and then in wanders just one. If something goes wrong, it needs to be taken care of.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by HarmNone
however, that task ultimately lies with the Super Moderator and the Administrator.

As the Administrator, I have stated my stance on this subject. The two moderators are in agreement that what was done was the right thing to do. I will back them in their decision. They're working as a team, and that is exactly what I want them to do.

You have stated your displeasure, TOJ. This, you have a right to do. However, unless you have something to add that has not been said before, ad nauseum, I believe the subject has been covered. We are now
:deadhorse:

If this thread continues along current lines, with nothing more than repeated arguments, it will be closed. If anyone has something new to add, we'd be happy to hear it. Otherwise, it has all been said.

in other words you are so short of mods you will do nothing about it.

thanks for your time :rolleyes:

You're most definitely welcome, TOJ. Now, that's enough, all of you. There is nothing being added here, at all.