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BLZrizz
06-21-2005, 04:27 AM
Is it possible to ambush with a longsword (or any other 4 base speed weapon) in five seconds?

If so, what is the required AGI/DEX bonus?

StrayRogue
06-21-2005, 07:27 AM
The numbers for RT reduction based on AGL/Dex bonus are...

+8
+23
+38
+53
+68
+83

Note this is the combined bonus of AGL and DEX. If your stat booster will get you enough to put you over one of these thresholds, then yes you will get another second off your RT down to the minimum swing time for that weapon(Or Minimum swing time + 1 second for ambushes), and then it only effects things like encumberance penalties(For rt) or mstrike RT.

Gan
06-21-2005, 08:54 AM
:yeahthat:

I havnt been able to get below 6 seconds for any OHE except a dagger which is at 4 with my ambushing OHE rogue.

Apotheosis
06-21-2005, 09:41 AM
I've ambushed with a shortsword @ 5 seconds, so I dunno, daggers should be 3.. but that's an elf with maxed out dex/agl

StrayRogue
06-21-2005, 11:34 AM
Daggers should not be at 3. Atleast not with ambushing.

Apotheosis
06-21-2005, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
Daggers should not be at 3. Atleast not with ambushing.


oops. (max dex, agl and str) = 4 second dagger ambush, 5 second shortsword ambush and 6 second other OHE ambush RT.

not sure what stats factor in exactly, just the ones I think relate to encumbrence, and speed.

Izalude
06-21-2005, 12:00 PM
Longsword is definitely 6 seconds, with 105 dex and agility as a sylvan.

Short sword or dagger is really your only choice.

Bobmuhthol
06-21-2005, 12:06 PM
Ambush RT is always a minimum 1 RT above swing RT.

Longswords have a minimum 5 swing RT, and therefore a minimum 6 ambush RT. The same goes for claidhmores.

Fengus
06-21-2005, 10:24 PM
And further idiocy of this system an even base speed is grouped up, so scimitars are also min 5s swing and 6s for ambush.


Bob:Where have you seen a 6s ambush with claids? Whats stats?

Bobmuhthol
06-21-2005, 10:36 PM
You'd need a combined dex+agl of 68. Halflings can do it.