Michael Jackson Verdict

[Ravenstorm]

There is one.

It's now 4:10 pm, eastern. The news just said in about 15 minutes the jury will be back and the verdict will be read. So if you want to watch it, turn the tv on.

Raven

[Jenisi]

wtf i already have a thread on this

[SnatchWrangler]

Originally posted by Jenisi
wtf i already have a thread on this

And maybe if you bothered to have put Michael Jackson's name in the title someone would have known this.

[Jenisi]

No.

[Back]

Chalk it up to some kind of cosmic connection to Raven.

[Jenisi]

Yes.

[Miss X]

Im betting he gets away with the more serious charges.

[Asha]

Isn't he talking about moving to England, if he gets off?

He isn't different from any other child's peepee-toucher.

Bathe him in H2SO4, I say.

[AnticorRifling]

Dude you know he already bathes in that stuff. That's how he got his great complexion.

motherfucker

[Doyle Hargraves]

PWN not guilty.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp2/ugotthelook/images/michael_jackson.jpg

[Edited on 6-13-2005 by Doyle Hargraves]

[xtc]

Unreal they let this freak walk. He will continue molesting little boys.

[Bobmuhthol]

I'm happy.

[Doyle Hargraves]

Originally posted by xtc
Unreal they let this freak walk. He will continue molesting little boys.

He'd have to become a priest first.

[GSLeloo]

I swear the jury was bought.

[Bobmuhthol]

I swear you don't know what you're talking about.

[DeV]

Those jurors are gonna be famous.

Thank God.

- Arkans

[xtc]

Don't tell me people on this board actually believe Jackson didn't molest these kids?

They are and rightfully so. It was proven that he didn't. Just because he is weird that doesn't mean he molested children. You can't convict someone of being eccentric.

- Arkans

[Bobmuhthol]

Every person who has this molestation vendetta against Jackson is a fucking idiot, imho.

No exceptions.

[DeV]

I'm just glad it wasn't a black person that got off this time.

[xtc]

Originally posted by Arkans
They are and rightfully so. It was proven that he didn't. Just because he is weird that doesn't mean he molested children. You can't convict someone of being eccentric.

- Arkans

So a 40 plus year old man admits he sleeps in the same bed as 12 year old boys. A ton of kids have come forward to say that he molested them, he gave alcohol to minors, in one case a sick kid....how much has to happen before some people will believe he is guilty?

[xtc]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Every person who has this molestation vendetta against Jackson is a fucking idiot, imho.

No exceptions.

and some people are just blind.

[Doyle Hargraves]

Wasn't it proven before (might have been in the first case or whatever) that one of the accusers was completely full of shit and made the whole thing up? I haven't paid much attention to the case, but I remember reading that somewhere.

[Back]

Originally posted by DeV
I'm just glad it wasn't a black person that got off this time.

:lol:

Hey, OJ didn’t kill his wife either.

[SnatchWrangler]

Originally posted by Doyle Hargraves
Wasn't it proven before (might have been in the first case or whatever) that one of the accusers was completely full of shit and made the whole thing up? I haven't paid much attention to the case, but I remember reading that somewhere.

Did you see/hear how many celebrities had experiences with this kid and his family?

More than enough reasonable doubt was in place after hearing the actions of the family by other celebrities they approached or had spent money on them.

C'mon...how many celebrities have you spent time with in your life? This family targetted them.

[CrystalTears]

And of all the celebrities they targetted, how many were accused of molesting a child?

I didn't really want him to fry hardcore, but I did want his hand slapped with at least the alcohol and lewd behavior counts. Oh well. He'll go back to giving them alcohol and showing them porn again.

[SnatchWrangler]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
And of all the celebrities they targetted, how many were accused of molesting a child?


Which just made him a MUCH easier target for the family than Chris Tucker, Jay Leno, et al.

[Ilvane]

He had already been accused of being a child molester, that's why they targeted him.

I think Michael Jackson is odd, but I don't think he was guilty either. There is a far cry from being a eccentric to being a criminal molester.

Now the accuser and family will go to civil court and try to get what they really wanted in the first place, money.

-A

[Shalla]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
And of all the celebrities they targetted, how many were accused of molesting a child?

I didn't really want him to fry hardcore, but I did want his hand slapped with at least the alcohol and lewd behavior counts. Oh well. He'll go back to giving them alcohol and showing them porn again.

I think from what I heard from the news, The kids were going through his stuff and was running wild in the ranch. It is michael jackson's ranch, he is partly responsible.. but mostly, it should be their mother's. They are guest in his house, therefore.. she should've been present to discipline and make sure nothing bad like they are claiming happened. I don't think Michael is in any position to discipline them, if he did.. he would've been sued then too.

[Edited on 6-13-2005 by Lady Shalla]

[Shalla]

Originally posted by xtc

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Every person who has this molestation vendetta against Jackson is a fucking idiot, imho.

No exceptions.

and some people are just blind.

And some people judge a book by it's cover.

[HarmNone]

In this case, it wasn't a matter of what anybody thought. It was a matter of what could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. In this case, it appears, the charges were not proven beyond a reasonable doubt, as far as the jury was concerned.

[Back]

I bet he moonwalked out of the courtroom.

[CrystalTears]

I'm not talking about discipline. I'm talking about giving alcohol and showing porn to children. Apparently this happened when the mother wasn't there.

There had been accounts of staff admitting that they gave the children alcohol. Sorry but if staff had done that and they work for him, I find him responsible. But since they made a big deal about the parents' and child's background, it clouded a lot of the information.

Hell he's admitted himself that he sleeps in the same bed with children. Now maybe allowing the child to stay in a house with a grown man is bad parenting, but it doesn't excuse his behavior.

Oh well. It's over and done with. Hopefully this will make him wiser for the future when interacting with children and this won't ever come up again with another child.

[Shalla]

I didn't think he was guilty of child molesting. Guilty of being eccentric yes. He's guilty of acting like a child. The dangling of a baby on a balcony is not something an adult would do.. maybe a child. He acts like a child. A child incapable of deciding what is right or wrong. Children today have no clues on how society works.. and what we would consider right or wrong.. With the way Michael jackson has been isolated his whole life.. I wouldn't be surprised if he does act wierd.. But a child molester?

The whole looking at porn.. or drinking alcohol. Yes, he's in his 40's. If he acts and thinks like an adult.. he would put a stop to it. Heck, some male adults would even encourage young boys to drink alcohol and look at porn if it means turning them into a man. But michael jackson does not think like an adult.. and it is equivalent to a teenager.. coerced, if not influenced by another teenager into doing these things.. peer pressure.

Don't look at it from an adult perspective.. If He really does think like a child.. like a teenager even.. Would he have told his peers to stop?

[CrystalTears]

If you agree with the verdict, fine. But don't give me this garbage that he is a child in a man's body. That's a copout if I ever heard one. That's no excuse.

O.J. is *about* five times more innocent than M.J.:

Being wealthier, less black and wealthier makes him far less of an easy target than said person.

There is nooo way that someone who's actually had, what is it, FIVE prior mollestation charges on him is actually going to have ZERO involvement. Fucking fuck that fucking shit, yo.

Seriously, shit like this makes me want to pose as an 11-year old girl in Yahoo chats to track down mollestors only to STAB them in the FACE.

[peam]

http://www.perverted-justice.com/

Work for these guys, Stan.

[Shalla]

I'm not trying to make you think otherwise. I am simply stating that the defense arguement does make sense, if Michael jackson does have that peter pan syndrome. I personally think that one's upbringing has everything to do with how they are psychologically in later years. Whether they are strong enough to overcome it or not. I personally wouldn't know how it affected Michael.. I can only try and find the logical explanation.. without morality blinding my opinion.

Society dictates it's wrong, because obviously it is wrong that he allowed these things to happen because he's an adult. He's a psychologically imbalanced adult. Someone over 18 does not necessarily mean they are able to do things an adult would do. An adult in serious need of psychological help.. and there is no doubt in my mind that parents should not allow, if not always be present when in michael jackson's premises.

I also could not comprehend why michael jackson acts the way he does.. so I have to find what might be the reason why he does the things he do.. The answer, you're an adult.. act like one simply doesn't cut it for me.

[Edited on 6-13-2005 by Lady Shalla]

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by DeV
I'm just glad it wasn't a black person that got off this time.

:rofl:

[Ylena]

Sure, everyone who is innocent of child abuse is willing to pay 20 mil to buy off the accusers.

I shouldn't be at all surprised.. but I have the same sick feeling I did the day the Juice walked.

I honestly wonder if a true jury of his peers -- other celebrities, who would not be blinded by his fame -- would have rendered the same verdict.

On the other hand, I don't think he's going to enjoy the post-trial happiness that OJ has. My next death pool picks will have him in the mix. Dude was practically a zombie at the end of this. Of course, given the surgery, there's the option that he could literally fall to pieces...

[Chelle]

Okay, so boo hoo he was robbed of his childhood so now he acts like a child. As I recall the freak has brothers who were also robbed of their childhood too. How come we don't hear about them putting little boys in their bed? We don't hear that Jermaine, Tiko orwhateverthehell his hame is giving porn and alchohol to kids.

C'mon give me a damn break here. To let him off, totally free of all charges doesn't make sense.

[Chelle]

Though I hear he may not be totally out of hot water yet, especially if someone else comes forth.

[Shalla]

I really don't know why. I can only assume, since I have no concrete facts to back up whats going on.

My arguement is just an opinion.


Edit: Maybe this is a government conspiracy to get the War in Iraq out of the news. :smug:

Conspiracy theory #2. Run-away bride was paid to run by the government to get the War in Iraq out of the news. Dun dun dunnnnn!

[Edited on 6-13-2005 by Lady Shalla]

[Kefka]

Well there's the fact that the prosecution couldn't prove a thing. The boy and his mom were horrible witnesses. That whole 'trapped in his estate' thing probably blew the whole case out the water. Probably took the jury so long to give their verdict to keep from laughing on camera. Yeah, he's a freak, but that doesn't make him guilty.

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Backlash
I bet he moonwalked out of the courtroom.

LOL, if he did that I'd actually like him a little bit.

As it stands now I'd spend money on a pay-per-view of him falling down a flight of steps or getting hit by a car (not enough to kill him, just enough to send him flying over the windshield).

[Back]

If another molestation charge come up on him, then what? More money-grubbers?

[Tsa`ah]

Only in Cali can murderers, child molesters, and rapists walk free.

There is a bright side to this however. Jackson and OJ can play golf together and formulate a plan to catch the real killer and molester.

[Edited on 6-14-2005 by Tsa`ah]

That's a pretty retarded question to ask, in all honesty. Was he caught with his the kid's dick in his hand? Was it another shady person? What if he was eaten by a t-rex would that mean he likes to feel up reptiles? C'mon now.

- Arkans

[Insodus]

I agree with it. I mean... he made Thriller. Nuff said.

[Hulkein]

Arkans is one of the last people I'd ever imagine would defend Michael Jackson.

Hahaha I've been asked "Are you serious about this or just fucking around" about 5 times now.

- Arkans

PS: I am serious!

[Jonty]

A child incapable of deciding what is right or wrong.

No, they are not.

[Trinitis]

I think what bothers me most about Jackson is because of his status in life, no one will label things the way they should be.

Jackson has a problem processing information. He acts more like a child then an adult. He is distructive to himself, and others. He does things over and over, expecting a different responce/reaction. He loves attention to the extreme.

Having worked with others expressing most, if not all of this, I'd say he suffers from a mild retardation.

But, because of who he is, you'll never get someone to publicly claim that.

Originally posted by Insodus
I agree with it. I mean... he made Thriller. Nuff said.

Hahahahaha. All I could think of reading this entire thread was "Man, I can't wait to see the Dave Chappelle sketch on this"

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by Arkans
They are and rightfully so. It was proven that he didn't. Just because he is weird that doesn't mean he molested children. You can't convict someone of being eccentric.

- Arkans

Actually it just wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt. At any rate... welcome to the system and the joys of the 5th amendment.

He is still disgusting.

[Groldar]

None of you have any idea what happened on that ranch. Besides Tayvin, see the picture thread for more proof.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Arkans
They are and rightfully so. It was proven that he didn't. Just because he is weird that doesn't mean he molested children. You can't convict someone of being eccentric.

- Arkans

Just because he was found not guilty, doesnt mean he didnt abuse little boys.
Someone on the radio today was saying "Well they asked Macauley Culkin whether he had been abused and he said no, so that proves it"
Some people are fucking stupid.
I am glad that I live in the UK.
We send celebreties (sp? that looks wrong) to jail when they abuse kids.

[CrystalTears]

One of the jurors felt that he is a child molester, just that there weren't enough facts for THIS case. That's unfortunate that someone in jury felt that way.

The jury focused way too much on the mother. They didn't like her and blames her for allowing her child to stay with MJ. The mother wasn't on trial here. No one is saying she was a good mother, but that still doesn't excuse his behavior with children.

Jay Leno last night:
"Good news is Michael Jackson is innocent of all charges. The bad news? He's going to Disneyland!" :lol:

[Back]

This is just like how that creepily similar Law & Order ended, isn’t it?

The problem is, this family had a bad track record of credibility. Not only that, but their testimony and the facts where extremely weak and basically all circumstancial. You cannot put a person behind bars for 20+ years based on this alone. There was more than enough reasonable doubt in this case and thus the jury was right in letting him off.

Now, don't get me wrong, I do believe that he does things that may be inappropriate. For instance sleeping in the same bed as kids do is not normally accepted, but I do not think he did it with sexual intent, but rather I believe he really just wanted a harmless sleep over.

Not only that, but the way he acts like a kid (Adredrin suggested mild retardation), I'm not even sure he's mature enough to even handle the topic of sex let alone engage with it. It's a sad case really and I do feel bad for the guy that he never had a childhood and it screwed him up bad enough for him to become like this. Hopefully he'll come out of this a smarter man though.

- Arkans

[Itachi]

This isnt fucking news, why is this on every channel i watch?!

[Wezas]

I was listening on the radio on the way home when I heard the verdict. After the station went to commercials I started flipping to different stations. The two R&B/Rap stations (WPGC, WKYS) were both playing Michael Jackson songs. One played a mixed recording of alot of his songs meshed together into one song. The other played at least 4-5 of his songs, and during the intro of each song they played the tapes of the lady reading of his not-guilty status.

"Black people too happy, White people too mad" - Chris Rock

Though in this case I think there's plenty of happy white people.

[Back]

He wants to change his ways (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/entertainment/4091990.stm).

And that to me sounds like a really good idea. Only time will tell.

[Czeska]

Originally posted by Wezas
I was listening on the radio on the way home when I heard the verdict. After the station went to commercials I started flipping to different stations. The two R&B/Rap stations (WPGC, WKYS) were both playing Michael Jackson songs. One played a mixed recording of alot of his songs meshed together into one song. The other played at least 4-5 of his songs, and during the intro of each song they played the tapes of the lady reading of his not-guilty status.


On my radio, they were playing "Pretty Young Thing (PYT)" with the interjections of his comments. Came out creepy as hell.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Backlash
This is just like how that creepily similar Law & Order ended, isn’t it?

Ding ding ding.

He's a very disturbed very wealthy and very well protected man.

[DeV]

Originally posted by Skirmisher
He's a very disturbed very wealthy and very well protected man. That about sums up my thoughts.

[Vitruvian]

Damnit!!! I lost 50 bucks on that verdict!!!

[Vitruvian]

Micheal Jackson says... 'I told you Billy Jean was not my lover!"

[xtc]

Originally posted by Lady Shalla

Originally posted by xtc

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Every person who has this molestation vendetta against Jackson is a fucking idiot, imho.

No exceptions.

and some people are just blind.

And some people judge a book by it's cover.

Not at all. I couldn't care less if he sleeps in a hyperbolic chamber or bought the elephant man's bones or that he has lost his nose due to plastic surgery.

What I care about is that he served alcohol to minors, at 40 + he sleeps in the same bed as 12 year old boys. That a proliferation of people has come forward and said that Jackson molested them or sexual assaulted them.

I watched some of the juror's being interviewed on the TV last night. Many of them believed the child's testimony but were convinced by the other juror's that a reasonable doubt existed.

I guess once again it has been proven that money can buy a not guilty verdict.

[4a6c1]

In honor of EVERYONES FAVORITE CHILD MOLESTER I am now listening to a list of techno remixed Michael Jackson.

....."you've been hit by, you've been struck by a smooth criminal."

:flames:

[Vesi]

No matter how you feel about the verdict, this site is ridiculous:

http://mjjsource.com/

Comparing the date of his verdict to things like Martin Luther King's birthday, the fall of the Berlin Wall, etc...

[Apotheosis]

Ok, yeah, my 2 cents on this:

Something fucking inappropriate and insane was going on (regardless as to whether or not he molested children), the media can spin this as many ways as they want, but in the end, we really weren't there to see what actually happened.

To me, they should have just locked everyone involved up (including the witnesses, defense and prosecution, and the jury) and thrown away the key.