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Harmnone, you've been taking the fun out of posting recently.
Anything that's been slightly taboo or off-topic has been deleted vehemently recently.
I have nothing against Harmnone and have asked her for advice and suggestions through U2Us, but recently, I guess that she's just doing just a little bit too good of a job at moderating. That is all.
Trinitis
06-10-2005, 12:37 PM
Harmy knows the rules to PC very well. Normally, I'd say we let some things "slide" to members who are not disruptive to the extreme. As of late, you've done your best to be disruptive, and a troublesome poster. As such, you are in the mods sights, and every little infraction you do is going to be taken into account.
You brought this upon yourself Stan my man. I'm sorry to say it, but thats the way it works.
Snapp
06-10-2005, 12:38 PM
Well, every troll needs a moderator to complain about. Glad to see you've picked yours. :stfu:
Shut the fuck up.
Seriously.
Deleting posts bashing a poster who has consistantly gone out of his way to attempt humiliating her is not selfless, it's stupid.
And I have had about six or seven posts deleted or edited in the past three or so days. So naturally, I want to know what the deal is.
Atlanteax
06-10-2005, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Deleting posts bashing a poster who has consistantly gone out of his way to attempt humiliating her is not selfless, it's stupid.
And I have had about six or seven posts deleted or edited in the past three or so days. So naturally, I want to know what the deal is.
Perhaps you should take the hint? :tool:
Trinitis
06-10-2005, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Deleting posts bashing a poster who has consistantly gone out of his way to attempt humiliating her is not selfless, it's stupid.
And I have had about six or seven posts deleted or edited in the past three or so days. So naturally, I want to know what the deal is.
Posting purely to be disruptive is against the rules of the boards. Defending Harmnone or not, that is a rule.
Besides, Harmnone is more then capable of defending herself. :)
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 12:44 PM
The deal, Stanley, is this: Stay on topic. I don't give a flying flip who you think you're protecting, or who you think you're bashing. Stay on topic and stop trying to add your idea of comedy to everys thread you come across.
If your posts are germane to the topic at hand, not bashing for the hell of bashing, and not disrupting the forums they will be allowed to stand. If they are doing any of the above, or if I receive complaints about them, they will be edited or removed. That doesn't only apply to you. That goes for any and every poster here. You're not the only one being edited.
CrystalTears
06-10-2005, 12:48 PM
IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
Hulkein
06-10-2005, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
And I have had about six or seven posts deleted or edited in the past three or so days. So naturally, I want to know what the deal is.
I think Adredrin explained it pretty clearly in his first post.
Originally posted by Adredrin
I'd say we let some things "slide" to members who are not disruptive to the extreme. As of late, you've done your best to be disruptive, and a troublesome poster. As such, you are in the mods sights, and every little infraction you do is going to be taken into account.
You brought this upon yourself Stan my man. I'm sorry to say it, but thats the way it works.
[Edited on 6-10-2005 by Hulkein]
MODs constructively criticizing each other never happens, so hopefully we can get a few more non-staff members to post with respect to the issue. Assuming that they have the testicular fortitude to do so.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
MODs constructively criticizing each other never happens, so hopefully we can get a few more non-staff members to post with respect to the issue. Assuming that they have the testicular fortitude to do so.
Heh. You have no access to our moderator folders, Stanley, so you have no idea of whether we criticize each other, or not. You're talking out of your ass again.
I told you what was up. That's what's up. Stay on topic and cut the bashing for the hell of it and you won't have posts edited/deleted. It ain't Rocket Science, Leeeroy.
Atlanteax
06-10-2005, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
MODs constructively criticizing each other never happens, so hopefully we can get a few more non-staff members to post with respect to the issue. Assuming that they have the testicular fortitude to do so.
I already posted, but perhaps I can be more clear.
It is quite obvious to everyone that you are Trolling...
... and the Mods have apparently decided that enough is enough, and that your Trolling would not be tolerated anymore.
.
So my advice is that you should either knock it off with the Trolling behavior...
or find some other Forums to Troll on instead.
Well, if it makes you feel any better I had a post deleted this morning. But it was in response to someone who apparently has too much time on their hands.
I can see where Harmnone is coming from Stan. She is a supermod after all and has been EXTREMELY lenient in the past on those who's posting styles should be have been targeted in a similiar fashion. Hopefully it retains a consistency where people who troll regularly can start being regulated as strictly as you are now.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 01:22 PM
I thought I'd post the following quote from Kranar. It's from the moderator folders, but I'm sure Kranar won't mind if all of you see it. It speaks to his vision for these forums, and to his dedication to them. I try very hard to keep it in the front of my mind when reading, moderating and, now, administrating here.
Kranar on the PC:
I wouldn't mind taking a drop in posts and in hits if it means getting rid of a lot of the junk that's posted. The number of daily hits and the number of daily posts is nothing to brag or even care about if they're coming from non-stop flamers and those who want to use the entire forums to themselves to chase others away.
Since I don't make a penny off of these forums, in fact I lose more money the more people come here, I don't gain anything from the quantity of the forums. This month I had to upgrade the server the forums run on yet again, to compensate for increased volume. So my only gain, if any, comes from the quality of the forums as a community.
[Edited on 10-28-2004 by Kranar]
*The italics are mine, to show paraphrasing, since this was written some time ago and was written in answer to a specific question. ~HarmNone*
Jolena
06-10-2005, 01:22 PM
All I have to say is take a look at the "This thread is designed to annoy anyone" thread and you'll see why you are considered to be trolling Stanley.
CrystalTears
06-10-2005, 01:22 PM
Actually HarmNone is an admin. She has even more of a right to decide that offtopic and insulting posts have no business in a thread and edit/delete them.
Jolena
06-10-2005, 01:25 PM
Personally I hope that the strictness shown to Stanley is given across the board on a more consistent basis. I can't count how many times I've taken a break from posting and reading these forums simply because the trolling/flaming/bs'ing just became too much to deal with and still be enjoyable. Shame really, there are so many folks here who have things to contribute and are overshadowed by the assholes. :shrug: It would be nice to see that not happen quite so often and I guess this is the first step towards that goal. Kudos HN.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by DeV
Well, if it makes you feel any better I had a post deleted this morning. But it was in response to someone who apparently has too much time on their hands.
I can see where Harmnone is coming from Stan. She is a supermod after all and has been EXTREMELY lenient in the past on those who's posting styles should be have been targeted in a similiar fashion. Hopefully it retains a consistency where people who troll regularly can start being regulated as strictly as you are now.
This is, most certainly, my intent, DeV. The trolling, bashing, and meaningless posting is getting to be a real problem to many of our posters. That's one reason I posted Kranar's post from the moderators folders. I think it speaks volumes about what he sees these forums to be. My vision of them agrees 100% with his. I hope we can all work together toward achieving that goal.
There's nothing wrong with an occasional break from topic. It's going to happen. What will not be tolerated is breaks from topic for the sole purpose of bashing another person, or disrupting the forums or a specific topic.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Jolena
Personally I hope that the strictness shown to Stanley is given across the board on a more consistent basis. I can't count how many times I've taken a break from posting and reading these forums simply because the trolling/flaming/bs'ing just became too much to deal with and still be enjoyable. Shame really, there are so many folks here who have things to contribute and are overshadowed by the assholes. :shrug: It would be nice to see that not happen quite so often and I guess this is the first step towards that goal. Kudos HN.
Thanks, Jolena. I'd really like to see exactly what you say you'd like to see. Yet, we need your help to get it done. Please let the moderator of a thread know there's a problem by reporting the post. I'll get a copy of the report, as well.
We can't see everything. Our time is limited by real-life needs, and we do miss things. By reporting offensive posts, disruptive posts, and/or bashing for the sake of bashing, you posters can be of tremendous help in making these forums what you want them to be. :)
You do realize trolling is subjective? Not that that matters much to you, but, when my posts start getting deleted in a fashion that I bring it up in Staff Issues, than apparently it must matter to me. Harmnone is a Super MOD for good reasons and I realize that the amount of backlash I'm making myself susceptible to right now is apparent.
This I do not give a fuck about.
However I do give a fuck when selective moderating is an issue, especially at the hands of one who is a Super MOD.
If I can get basically anybody to slightly agree with me, even if they don't post it here, which I can completely understand, then it will at least show that despite the fact that you think I may or may not be trolling, at least some dissent means that certain MODs have not been doing their ideal job.
And I have no clue as to what goes on in the Venting Area or whatever, but since 4-8-2004 I have never seen a MOD go out of their way to objectively critique another. No.
That's about it, keep me updated with your thoughts and opinions.
Originally posted by Jolena
Personally I hope that the strictness shown to Stanley is given across the board on a more consistent basis. I can't count how many times I've taken a break from posting and reading these forums simply because the trolling/flaming/bs'ing just became too much to deal with and still be enjoyable. Shame really, there are so many folks here who have things to contribute and are overshadowed by the assholes. :shrug: It would be nice to see that not happen quite so often and I guess this is the first step towards that goal. Kudos HN.
Which is exactly why it is selective moderating. Thank you for at least noticing that.
AnticorRifling
06-10-2005, 01:34 PM
When you troll in massive quantities you will notice action being taken because there is more that has to be taken. If someone who only posts about 10 things a day gets 1 post pulled it's the same as someone who posts 70 times a day getting 7 pulled.
Quit being a shit bird and you'll be amazed how much easier life is.
Jolena
06-10-2005, 01:35 PM
You're right, Stanley, Trolling is subjective. So humor us, what is YOUR definition of it? And looking back at the thread I mentioned earlier to you, do you consider your multiple posts 2 minutes apart from each other were trolling or no?
CrystalTears
06-10-2005, 01:35 PM
She is an ADMIN for the love of God! If she feels you are trolling and you don't take her actions against your posts into consideration, she has the right to BAN you. You should be thankful they are just editing/deleting posts.
SpunGirl
06-10-2005, 01:37 PM
Why is it that everyone who decides to start behaving like an asshat plays the selective moderating card? If anyone is innocent of that accusation, it's HN.
-K
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Originally posted by Jolena
Personally I hope that the strictness shown to Stanley is given across the board on a more consistent basis. I can't count how many times I've taken a break from posting and reading these forums simply because the trolling/flaming/bs'ing just became too much to deal with and still be enjoyable. Shame really, there are so many folks here who have things to contribute and are overshadowed by the assholes. :shrug: It would be nice to see that not happen quite so often and I guess this is the first step towards that goal. Kudos HN.
Which is exactly why it is selective moderating. Thank you for at least noticing that.
Incorrect, Stanley. I've removed or edited posts from several posters today. Yours were not the only posts with which I dealt. You are only aware of yours...which doesn't particularly surprise me.
Jolena
06-10-2005, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Originally posted by Jolena
Personally I hope that the strictness shown to Stanley is given across the board on a more consistent basis. I can't count how many times I've taken a break from posting and reading these forums simply because the trolling/flaming/bs'ing just became too much to deal with and still be enjoyable. Shame really, there are so many folks here who have things to contribute and are overshadowed by the assholes. :shrug: It would be nice to see that not happen quite so often and I guess this is the first step towards that goal. Kudos HN.
Which is exactly why it is selective moderating. Thank you for at least noticing that.
Woah there cowboy. Back up a second. I didn't say it was selective. I said I hope that it continues to happen and to everyone who is causing this kind of grief. Anytime someone decides to start cleaning up an area (in this case the PC) it has to start sometime. It apparently started during one of your binges of posts. It would ONLY be selective if you were the only person being edited/monitored/warned over these things. As Dev posted earlier, you are not the only one as she too had her post deleted. I'm sure that there are others as well, you just aren't privy to them because perhaps they don't post as much as you do so it's not so noticeable.
AnticorRifling
06-10-2005, 01:39 PM
Being a mod by it's very nature and definition is selective. We read the posts and pass judgement on them.
That's right, I get to be all Judge Dredd up in this biatch. I am da law!
Jolena
06-10-2005, 01:40 PM
:oops: Someone's going to hell for THAT decision, I'm sure.
:flees:
Atlanteax
06-10-2005, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Originally posted by Jolena
Personally I hope that the strictness shown to Stanley is given across the board on a more consistent basis. I can't count how many times I've taken a break from posting and reading these forums simply because the trolling/flaming/bs'ing just became too much to deal with and still be enjoyable. Shame really, there are so many folks here who have things to contribute and are overshadowed by the assholes. :shrug: It would be nice to see that not happen quite so often and I guess this is the first step towards that goal. Kudos HN.
Which is exactly why it is selective moderating. Thank you for at least noticing that.
Of course it's selective moderating! :rolleyes:
IF Poster is not Trolling and is posting constructively...
THEN the posts stay up
IF Poster IS Trolling...
THEN the posts are editted or removed.
.
You're Trolling, so therefore your posts are going to be editted or deleted.
(Editted to fix Grammar)
[Edited on 6-10-2005 by Atlanteax]
Sure it's selective Anticor. The repercussion is me making this thread.
Atlanteax
06-10-2005, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Sure it's selective Anticor. The repercussion is me making this thread.
"..."
You're a viligante now?
Whatever... :rolleyes:
AnticorRifling
06-10-2005, 01:44 PM
We SELECT the posts that need to be deleted and we delete them. You, as of late, have gone out of your way to ensure that we have plenty to do.
Jolena
06-10-2005, 01:45 PM
Stanley, you never answered the question I asked. What is your definition of Trolling? And do you not consider your slew of 2 minute-apart posts in the thread I mentioned to be trolling?
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 01:45 PM
What Anticor said! :D
CrystalTears
06-10-2005, 01:47 PM
If you feel you've been treated unfairly, more would get accomplished if you would just address HarmNone and Kranar personally through either U2U or emails.
Bringing it to a public thread is only going to stir up unnecessary drama and feed the belief that you are trolling or being disruptive.
Jolena
06-10-2005, 01:47 PM
Oh good lord. HN!! Do NOT encourage the Anticor!:fence:
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
If I can get basically anybody to slightly agree with me, even if they don't post it here, which I can completely understand, then it will at least show that despite the fact that you think I may or may not be trolling, at least some dissent means that certain MODs have not been doing their ideal job.
You have a point Stan, granted. Just that one though that I agree with.
I will say, I've seen much MUCH worse posted in the past in the form of blatant and obvious trolling/insulting/degrading and these are even with on topic posts and nothing, I repeat, nothing was done to remove the offensive shit. But in the same breath, I didn't do my part as a member in reporting the posts because I assumed nothing would happen anyway or maybe felt that it wasn't a big deal because nothing was done about it previously.
It's a community effort for sure and alot has changed since those times.
Perhaps your posts have been getting reported with a greater frequency recently. There will always be some level of bias, even as far as moderating goes, its not always easy to separate being a poster and being a moderator, at least that's my assumption.
I'd just rather see it done on a consistent basis covering all bases. Hopefully this will be the case from now on.
SpunGirl
06-10-2005, 01:47 PM
wtf, Stanley. If you decide to post some crap, you get moderated, edited, deleted, whatever. I'd daresay there are very few people who haven't been moderated in some fashion.
What you're failing to realize is that you're being more ass-hatty than most, therefore you're being moderated more than most. If your mind can't make that simple, logical connection, then.... well, you're pathetic.
-K
Skirmisher
06-10-2005, 01:48 PM
I don't know if this is because your discretion is all out the window due to your killing all your brain cells, or you are just aching for attention Stanley, but it is really tired.
You started out as a troll, seemed to find a groove at some point and actually had a good percentage of the people here liking you and then in recent weeks have done just about everything in your power to make people loathe you once more.
The only one doing this to you is you and the only one who can fix this is you. Funny you mention U2U's as I tried to send you one with some well intentioned and carefully thought out suggestions and lo and behold you had me blocked.
You have already shown that you CAN be a normal friendly guy, try to find that person again and you may find the post deletions et al reducing in number quickly at the same time.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 01:48 PM
I always encourage the Anticor! It is the Anticor what makes life inneresting! Besides, the answer to any question is always: "What Anticor said." I've had that beaten into my skull inumerable times!:spin:
Jolena
06-10-2005, 01:50 PM
~~"What HN said." and stuffs.~~
Oh sad, sad saaaaad day. Le sigh.
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Sure it's selective Anticor. The repercussion is me making this thread. If you know you're trolling or even breaching the line with the off topic posts; with your recent track record on the boards you should know that your actions won't go unnoticed or unchecked. At least not for long.
AnticorRifling
06-10-2005, 01:53 PM
Careful Dave is going to get mad that I'm cutting in on his "The Edine" action. But then again I earn The Anticor he just made his rating up. :cool:
Ebondale
06-10-2005, 01:59 PM
Stan, you're really crossing the line.
You're fortunate that HarmNone is as nice a person as she is as an Admin. If it were up to a large portion of the people on PC I think you'd have been banned awhile ago. If it were up to me I'd ban Groldar right along with you since he seems to get his "troll everywhere" style from you.
Originally posted by Jolena
Stanley, you never answered the question I asked. What is your definition of Trolling? And do you not consider your slew of 2 minute-apart posts in the thread I mentioned to be trolling?
I'm definately not here to be existential about what my definition of trolling is.
A supernatural creature of Scandinavian folklore, variously portrayed as a friendly or mischievous dwarf or as a giant, that lives in caves, in the hills, or under bridges.-ing.
I make a thread with personal insults to another poster and keep it up, you can be damn well sure that I'm going to have my posts edited/deleted and given demerits. The bullshit may even continue.
This is why I am a poster and not a moderator, let alone a super moderator or administrator. Right now, I just feel very, very, very strongly that although it may be human to have feelings of angst that extend for more than a day towards another individual, I don't see what barings this sort of behaviour would hold for staff. That's it. Seriously.
I really don't see the point to this thread...
Your complaining about getting edited/deleted more than the average poster therefore being selectively targetted..
Yet you're also at the same time going out of your way to create more posts that need to be edited, which the average poster does not.
Of course you are going to be edited more if you go out of your way to create posts that need to be edited.
Atlanteax
06-10-2005, 02:03 PM
Dang, this thread Assploded!!! :scared:
Jolena
06-10-2005, 02:07 PM
Bashing someone is not the only reason posts get deleted/edited Stanley. I'm sure you realize this. There is a combination of reasons that your posts were deleted, I'm sure.
BTW thanks for not answering the question seriously at all. :lol: U R SMART /sarcasm
CrystalTears
06-10-2005, 02:09 PM
There may be miscommunication here then, Stanley. I'm not sure if the problem here is that either a) you feel that the staff is using their personal feelings as posters to determine how they moderate, or b) that you personally don't feel that you've been trolling or causing any sort of disruption to the boards.
a) As much as personal feelings MAY interfere in moderating, this is why checks are put in place when edits or deletions are made, and the moderators discuss them. They're not into favoritism as much as some may believe.
b) If this is the case, then they need to explain it to you.
Originally posted by Tijay
I really don't see the point to this thread...
Your complaining about getting edited/deleted more than the average poster therefore being selectively targetted..
Yet you're also at the same time going out of your way to create more posts that need to be edited, which the average poster does not.
Of course you are going to be edited more if you go out of your way to create posts that need to be edited.
Just like some of our other posters who in the past have marked their feelings of unhappiness towards staff members with certain posts expressing such opinions, I too have now joined the ranks.
It would be nice if I could get my point across being slightly more articulate than a few other select posters who have had these issues with staff and their moderation, however, in the end the idea is that obviously, there is no such thing as being able to make every single poster happy. This is the result. If you don't see the point of it, then you go right ahead and take it with a grain of salt :shrug:
Originally posted by CrystalTears
There may be miscommunication here then, Stanley. I'm not sure if the problem here is that either a) you feel that the staff is using their personal feelings as posters to determine how they moderate, or b) that you personally don't feel that you've been trolling or causing any sort of disruption to the boards.
a) As much as personal feelings MAY interfere in moderating, this is why checks are put in place when edits or deletions are made, and the moderators discuss them. They're not into favoritism as much as some may believe.
b) If this is the case, then they need to explain it to you.
It's unprofessional for a staff member held in such high regard to hold vendettas or let something as simple as a mindset effect the job they are doing.
Jolena
06-10-2005, 02:15 PM
So basically you are saying that you 1) don't feel you've done things to be edited/deleted over AND 2) you feel that HN is using her personal distaste for you as a poster and a person in general to target you and delete/edit your posts unnecessarily.
Right?
CrystalTears
06-10-2005, 02:17 PM
That's the problem then, Stanley. You feel it's personal and the mods feel that you HAVE been disruptive.
It's clearly not only HarmNone who feels this way since more than one mod has made this point.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 02:19 PM
There is no vendetta here, Stanley. I have explained to you how to keep from having your posts edited or deleted. Stay on topic and don't disrupt the forums, or individual threads. It's just not that difficult.
As you have heard from others who have posted here, I am not the only one who has noticed your tendency to disrupt lately. Therefore, to think that I have a vendetta against you is rather ludicrous, wouldn't you say; especially considering that others have also had their posts edited/deleted? There are other posters (not staff) who are also seeing a trend in your posting that is causing problems for the boards.
I have nothing against you, Stanley. I have no particular feeling toward you, one way or the other. You are a poster on these boards. You've been causing some difficulties with your posting style. I'm alleviating those difficulties. It's really as simple as that. There is no conspiracy and no vendetta.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
06-10-2005, 02:22 PM
There is always a conspiracy.
CrystalTears
06-10-2005, 02:22 PM
Trust me, if a mod was in the wrong, there would be WAY more support for you right now, Stanley.
If so many people are stating more or less the same thing, then perhaps you should reevaluate how you've been posting lately and not be so quick to assume that it's a conspiracy against you.
Miss X
06-10-2005, 02:25 PM
As staff, we all work together as a team. As has been stated numerous times before, we record the things we edit/delete and give reasons. This way, we all keep an eye on each other.
I have no doubt, that if one of us felt there was a pattern of a specific poster being targeted, we would raise this issue and discuss it.
Of course, yes, we all support each other, but that is not to say issues to not get raised in the privacy of our own folders. We generally do everything by consensus. No one is being picked on here.
The best advice I could give you Stanley, is to go away, get back into rehab, sort yourself out and then come back as the respected poster you once were.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 02:26 PM
I found it interesting, Stanley, that you have Skirmisher blocked on U2U. You also have me blocked. That means we can't contact you to advise you when there might be a problem with one of your posts, thereby giving you the opportunity to amend the problem before we take action.
Judging from that action, taken on your part, I'd say the problem doesn't lie with me, or with Skirmisher. It seems you don't want to hear anything that might not agree with what you have devised in your own head. You don't want advice, you don't want suggestions, you just want to have your own way and not have to hear about it. That's your choice. The other side of that choice is that your posts will be edited or deleted, as necessary, without your being contacted in advance, or after the fact.
Ravenstorm
06-10-2005, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Just like some of our other posters who in the past have marked their feelings of unhappiness towards staff members with certain posts expressing such opinions, I too have now joined the ranks.
You might want to review exactly who it is that you just voluntarily joined ranks with. If that doesn't prove to you that you're hitting rock bottom, I don't know what will.
This bears repeating:
Originally posted by Skirmisher
I don't know if this is because your discretion is all out the window due to your killing all your brain cells, or you are just aching for attention Stanley, but it is really tired.
You started out as a troll, seemed to find a groove at some point and actually had a good percentage of the people here liking you and then in recent weeks have done just about everything in your power to make people loathe you once more.
The only one doing this to you is you and the only one who can fix this is you.
To quote Dorothy Zbornak: "Go away Stanley."
Raven
Originally posted by Jolena
So basically you are saying that you 1) don't feel you've done things to be edited/deleted over AND 2) you feel that HN is using her personal distaste for you as a poster and a person in general to target you and delete/edit your posts unnecessarily.
Right?
I going to assume either you aren't taking this seriously enough, or you forgot how to read.
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
I make a thread with personal insults to another poster and keep it up, you can be damn well sure that I'm going to have my posts edited/deleted and given demerits. The bullshit may even continue.
sally
06-10-2005, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
I make a thread with personal insults to another poster and keep it up, you can be damn well sure that I'm going to have my posts edited/deleted and given demerits. The bullshit may even continue.
This is why I am a poster and not a moderator, let alone a super moderator or administrator. Right now, I just feel very, very, very strongly that although it may be human to have feelings of angst that extend for more than a day towards another individual, I don't see what barings this sort of behaviour would hold for staff. That's it. Seriously.
I tend to believe there are many more reasons you are not a mod. Don't like the way you're treated..why not leave? Run away from the pain Stanley not toward it.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
06-10-2005, 02:34 PM
I've never gotten a demerit :)
Wezas
06-10-2005, 02:34 PM
I really hope Kranar one day adds a HMU policy to our TOS.
AnticorRifling
06-10-2005, 02:36 PM
Why not just say "I'm butt hurt and need attention!" that would sum up all of your posts thus far Stan. You're reverting to the plesentness that was you when you first started posting here and that's sad.
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Just like some of our other posters who in the past have marked their feelings of unhappiness towards staff members with certain posts expressing such opinions, I too have now joined the ranks.
It would be nice if I could get my point across being slightly more articulate than a few other select posters who have had these issues with staff and their moderation, however, in the end the idea is that obviously, there is no such thing as being able to make every single poster happy. This is the result. If you don't see the point of it, then you go right ahead and take it with a grain of salt :shrug:
And you have the same right to as the original posters. If you don't like something about these boards mechanically or as a community then sure speak up. My point however was that perhaps your annoyance/judgement is misplaced. If you didn't go out of your way to cause trouble or create issues that will require editing then you certainly would be edited less. By your own admission when you behaved better your posts were editted less. To complain about being editted while purposely creating more that requires editing ... to me makes no sense. Which is why I find this thread confusing.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 02:39 PM
Stanley wouldn't know if he got a demerit, or not, since he has me blocked on U2U. :lol:
Actually, I'd email him, if necessary. I wasn't assessing demerits this morning, just taking out the trash. I'm not out to get anybody, but I am out to get a lesson across. I've stated that lesson a couple of times, but Stanley can't seem to get it.
Stay on topic, don't disrupt threads or the boards. It seems simple to me, but it may not be simple to Stanley. :shrug:
Wezas
06-10-2005, 02:40 PM
Blocking U2U's from Mods leaves all of your objectionable posts to be deleted/modified. There is no other way of contacting you about them, so the mods do what is necessary.
I've had a handful of posts edited/deleted. EVERY SINGLE TIME I've gotten a U2U with the reason why they did/will edit a post. EVERY SINGLE TIME was reasonable.
If you feel they're out to get you, it's because you're not willing to cooperate.
Ass-kissers and idiots alike are crawling out of the woodworks, anyway:
Originally posted by HarmNone
There is no vendetta here, Stanley. I have explained to you how to keep from having your posts edited or deleted. Stay on topic and don't disrupt the forums, or individual threads. It's just not that difficult.
As you have heard from others who have posted here, I am not the only one who has noticed your tendency to disrupt lately. Therefore, to think that I have a vendetta against you is rather ludicrous, wouldn't you say; especially considering that others have also had their posts edited/deleted? There are other posters (not staff) who are also seeing a trend in your posting that is causing problems for the boards.
I have nothing against you, Stanley. I have no particular feeling toward you, one way or the other. You are a poster on these boards. You've been causing some difficulties with your posting style. I'm alleviating those difficulties. It's really as simple as that. There is no conspiracy and no vendetta.
I definately do not believe that you have a vendetta against anyone, you're too smart for that. It was the comment about a staff having what may be a "bad day" and how it's extremely unacceptable to moderate under these conditions.
Originally posted by Miss X
As staff, we all work together as a team. As has been stated numerous times before, we record the things we edit/delete and give reasons. This way, we all keep an eye on each other.
I have no doubt, that if one of us felt there was a pattern of a specific poster being targeted, we would raise this issue and discuss it.
Of course, yes, we all support each other, but that is not to say issues to not get raised in the privacy of our own folders. We generally do everything by consensus. No one is being picked on here.
The best advice I could give you Stanley, is to go away, get back into rehab, sort yourself out and then come back as the respected poster you once were.
When I see an extremely intelligent post like the ones that you have always made, I start wondering why you yourself aren't a Super Moderator. You definately deserve to be one. I would assume that issues of technicalities might interfere, but then why, perhaps, could another moderator obtain "super" status, making himself this without going through any proper procedure. This is why, I feel, that any issue regarding objectivity amongst staff, is SO farfetched, that it isn't even funny.
Wezas
06-10-2005, 02:42 PM
Care to explain why you have two of the moderators blocked, Stanley?
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 02:45 PM
SuperModerators are appointed by Kranar, Stanley. They cannot, and do not, appoint themselves.
Whether you feel the staff is objective, or otherwise, is not at issue. As long as the owner of these boards is satisfied with what his staff is doing, and the way they are performing their duties, they will remain staff. When, and if, he becomes dissatisfied, he will take action.
Snapp
06-10-2005, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Ass-kissers and idiots alike are crawling out of the woodworks, anyway:
Because everyone who disagrees with you is obviously kissing the staff's ass. Riiiiight.
To quote Dorothy Zbornak: "Go away Stanley."
Raven
:rofl:
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Ass-kissers and idiots alike are crawling out of the woodworks...
So, anyone who disagrees with you is now an ass-kisser or an idiot, eh? That speaks volumes, Stanley.
*Edited because a t is not a w*
[Edited on 6-10-2005 by HarmNone]
AnticorRifling
06-10-2005, 02:48 PM
If I was trying to sound smart by talking about things that I had no idea as to how they actually worked and then I got punked out on it I would probably punch myself in the mouth....a lot.
theotherjohn
06-10-2005, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Ass-kissers and idiots alike are crawling out of the woodworks, anyway:
I have been here a short minute.....
What does ass-kissing get you on these boards?
AnticorRifling
06-10-2005, 02:53 PM
Naked pictures of Peam.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 02:55 PM
:scared:
Ravenstorm
06-10-2005, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Ass-kissers and idiots alike are crawling out of the woodworks, anyway:
Did you already forget posting this, Stanley?
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
MODs constructively criticizing each other never happens, so hopefully we can get a few more non-staff members to post with respect to the issue. Assuming that they have the testicular fortitude to do so.
Be careful what you wish for, Stanley. You're likely to get it.
Raven
Leetahkin
06-10-2005, 03:01 PM
Talk about wasting a Mod's time by making them babysit an unruly child.
Get a clue, Stan.
Ebondale
06-10-2005, 03:01 PM
so hopefully we can get a few more non-staff members to post with respect to the issue.
All right, then. :ban:
Hulkein
06-10-2005, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Which is exactly why it is selective moderating. Thank you for at least noticing that.
Even if it is selective moderating, you brought it upon yourself.
It's just like profiling in the justice system. It is usually successful.
Jolena
06-10-2005, 03:03 PM
Hate to say it Ebondale but you seem to really love the thought of banning folks and I have to wonder why you're so quick to do that. Stanley, although a tool at times, hasn't done anything bannable in my opinion. He might however deserve some demerits.
So, anyone who disagrees with you is now an ass-kisser or an idiot, eh? That speaks volumes, Stanley.
If the forces of the universe were so cruel that I was appointed moderator status, I would hope that everyone was as direct with me as they were with non-MOD posters, just reading this thread speaks volumes that such is not the case.
In short, I get frusterated when someone U2Us me, "Hey, that was great, I'm glad you said that," or "I agree, that sucks." When their tone differs a thousand fold in a thread like this.
I feel you've been doing a sucky job Harmnone, people probably agree with me but as Raven just pointed out, it will be more dressed up than Gitmo before an inspection.
As far as someone being appointed super moderator status, I can prove zilch unless another staff/administrator agreeing to the conditions of the situation I mentioned mentions anything of it speaks up, which I very much doubt is going to happen. If he actually reads this and conceptualizes what it is I am saying, then I am very happy :)
[Edited on 6-10-2005 by Stanley Burrell]
Ebondale
06-10-2005, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Jolena
Hate to say it Ebondale but you seem to really love the thought of banning folks and I have to wonder why you're so quick to do that. Stanley, although a tool at times, hasn't done anything bannable in my opinion. He might however deserve some demerits.
Habitual trollers shouldn't be kept around a good community, in my opinion. They're like a cancer. If someone's honest feelings is that anyone who doesn't agree with them is an idiot and an ass kisser then they have some serious issues that they need to work out AWAY from a good community of people.
If insulting the majority of the board, arguing with the moderators, arguing with the admins, and trolling wherever they can is not bannable, what is?
Personally I feel fortunate to have come across PC and I think there is a really good community here. I just hate seeing people bust that up, you know?
Originally posted by Hulkein
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Which is exactly why it is selective moderating. Thank you for at least noticing that.
Even if it is selective moderating, you brought it upon yourself.
It's just like profiling in the justice system. It is usually successful.
Is it wrong that I shouldn't expect that from a Super Moderator, let alone one with administrative ax/s?
Originally posted by Ebondale
Originally posted by Jolena
Hate to say it Ebondale but you seem to really love the thought of banning folks and I have to wonder why you're so quick to do that. Stanley, although a tool at times, hasn't done anything bannable in my opinion. He might however deserve some demerits.
Habitual trollers shouldn't be kept around a good community, in my opinion. They're like a cancer. If someone's honest feelings is that anyone who doesn't agree with them is an idiot and an ass kisser then they have some serious issues that they need to work out AWAY from a good community of people.
If insulting the majority of the board, arguing with the moderators, arguing with the admins, and trolling wherever they can is not bannable, what is?
Personally I feel fortunate to have come across PC and I think there is a really good community here. I just hate seeing people bust that up, you know? If you feel that Stanleys actions have been bannable to this point, you have alot more sticking around to do. They're not, not yet at least and I hope they don't reach that point.
Wezas
06-10-2005, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Wezas
Care to explain why you have two of the moderators blocked, Stanley?
Jolena
06-10-2005, 03:13 PM
First off, you haven't been here long enough to call what Stanley is doing habitual. Granted it's been going on for a good two weeks or so but there is a long history behind Stanley as well.
Secondly, I agree that if someone is consistently doing things to disrupt the boards, it should be handled. However there are certain things to consider when deciding what actions to take against someone. I don't think banning is always the answer and it doesn't happen often here to be honest. It takes a great deal to be banned from these boards IMO.
And yes, PC has a good community of folks. Part of the'goodness' of PC though is the ability to express yourself here (within guidelines), including insulting someone (if it's on topic and not just to bash for the sake of bashing) MOD or not. If we banned someone every time they upset others we would hardly have any posters left.
Nieninque
06-10-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
MODs constructively criticizing each other never happens, so hopefully we can get a few more non-staff members to post with respect to the issue. Assuming that they have the testicular fortitude to do so.
You're a prick.
What do you expect you fucking moron?
Toxicvixen
06-10-2005, 03:15 PM
I would state my opinion on this issue, but I would probably be accused of being an Ass Kisser.
So Instead I will entertain you with my Violin.
:violin:
Jolena
06-10-2005, 03:15 PM
:lolwave: See above post by Nein as an example Ebondale. It's an insult and considered on topic as he asked for our opinions on this and him.
Nieninque
06-10-2005, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I've never gotten a demerit :)
Me neither.
I am pretty objectionable at times...and sometimes deliberately.
I would say you have to go some to be getting them :shrug:
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 03:16 PM
I think you underestimate the majority of the posters on these boards, Stanley. I firmly believe that most of the people here are big enough, and confident enough, to voice their thoughts on almost any issue, including me. They've done it before. I expect it, as does the rest of our staff. We know darned well we can't please everyone, and we fully expect to hear from those who are dissatisfied. If there's something we can do to right wrongs done, we'll do it. First, however, we have to figure out what wrong was done. So far, it appears that the majority are in agreement that you are disruptive to the forums. :shrug:
What I've seen, so far, is a number of people (staff and otherwise) trying to tell you that they see the same things I see. You don't seem to wish to hear that message. That's your choice.
Ebondale
06-10-2005, 03:16 PM
If you feel that Stanleys actions have been bannable to this point, you have alot more sticking around to do. They're not, not yet at least and I hope they don't reach that point.
I intend to stick around more. I like the Player's Corner, as I said. Good community. From past experience as a moderator I know that users like Stanley do not change. Thats why I said that it is like a cancer on the board. Better to catch it early and scrape off the offending cells than to let it stick around and grow. :)
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Nieninque
Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I've never gotten a demerit :)
Me neither.
I am pretty objectionable at times...and sometimes deliberately.
I would say you have to go some to be getting them :shrug:
As I already noted, no demerits were awarded for the posts that were edited/deleted this morning.
Jolena
06-10-2005, 03:18 PM
Oddly enough there was a time where Stanley did change. He was a very agreeable and accepted poster for many months in fact.
Ebondale
06-10-2005, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Jolena
Oddly enough there was a time where Stanley did change. He was a very agreeable and accepted poster for many months in fact.
Yes, well. Drugs change people in incredible ways.
Originally posted by Wezas
Originally posted by Wezas
Care to explain why you have two of the moderators blocked, Stanley?
This is a fantastic question.
Jolena
06-10-2005, 03:24 PM
One which you obviously will not answer. Interesting I spose.
Originally posted by Ebondale
Originally posted by Jolena
Oddly enough there was a time where Stanley did change. He was a very agreeable and accepted poster for many months in fact.
Yes, well. Drugs change people in incredible ways.
I still think you're Tabor, or at least very Tabor-esque, take that as you will.
On topic, Harmnone, I have a hard time believing that you really think the majority of posters on this board are going to express any degree of directness with staff as they will with fellow posters.
To be honest, the :violin: emoticon suits me well with respect to the matter. But if I can get one friggin' person to voice out a bit better about concerns, or whatever else they may have about your style, or any other staff's moderation, then that, and I don't care what anyone else says, is an awesome thing.
Ebondale
06-10-2005, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Originally posted by Ebondale
Originally posted by Jolena
Oddly enough there was a time where Stanley did change. He was a very agreeable and accepted poster for many months in fact.
Yes, well. Drugs change people in incredible ways.
I still think you're Tabor, or at least very Tabor-esque, take that as you will.
On topic, Harmnone, I have a hard time believing that you really think the majority of posters on this board are going to express any degree of directness with staff as they will with fellow posters.
To be honest, the :violin: emoticon suits me well with respect to the matter. But if I can get one friggin' person to voice out a bit better about concerns, or whatever else they may have about your style, or any other staff's moderation, then that, and I don't care what anyone else says, is an awesome thing.
I still don't know who Tabor is, but whatever. :)
If one of the administrators feels that they'd like to call me to actually verify my identity then I'd be more than willing to have a little phone chat. *shrug*
CrystalTears
06-10-2005, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
On topic, Harmnone, I have a hard time believing that you really think the majority of posters on this board are going to express any degree of directness with staff as they will with fellow posters.
OMFG! :lol2: You really don't pay attention to anything that doesn't concern you, do you? Shall I point you to the number of posts and threads that have been made all against staff?
To be honest, the :violin: emoticon suits me well with respect to the matter. But if I can get one friggin' person to voice out a bit better about concerns, or whatever else they may have about your style, or any other staff's moderation, then that, and I don't care what anyone else says, is an awesome thing.
You want someone to lie on your behalf?
I have Harmnone blocked because I find her patronizing as all hell.
I have Skirm blocked for the exact same reason + overzealousness.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 03:37 PM
I still think you're underestimating your fellow posters, Stanley. I base that on a lot more time on these boards than you have logged. However, I agree with the sentiment that people should be able to freely voice their feelings, and hope they will continue to do so.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 03:40 PM
No phone call required, Ebondale. As long as you continue to post, while abiding by our TOS, you could be Godzilla's first cousin for all I care. ;)
*Edited because my keyboard has developed an odd twitch*
[Edited on 6-10-2005 by HarmNone]
Ebondale
06-10-2005, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by HarmNone
I still think you're underestimating your fellow posters, Stanley. I base that on a lot more time on these boards than you have logged. However, I agree with the sentiment that people should be able to freely voice their feelings, and hope they will continue to do so.
I agree with this too. I said in another thread that I don't think that a moderator's opinion should be held in any higher regard than anyone else's opinion since we're all only human.
Still, when your opinion consists of "omg u h8 me!!1 u r all teh sux and conspiracy omfg1". Holy crap, Stanley. Cry about it some more.
Nieninque
06-10-2005, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
I have Harmnone blocked because I find her patronizing as all hell.
I have Skirm blocked for the exact same reason + overzealousness.
:rofl:
And you want people to support your arguments?
fucking hell Stanley...you have moved from tranqs to acid? :lol2:
Skirmisher
06-10-2005, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
I have Harmnone blocked because I find her patronizing as all hell.
I have Skirm blocked for the exact same reason + overzealousness.
That's kind of strange to me as I doubt that i have u2u'd you more than three times in total, ever. And never did so as a mod, merely as a fellow poster.
You can think what you will Stanley, I know for myself that my intentions were good and whatever the reason that keeps you from seeing that is not my fault, or my problem.
Whether it's subjective or objective Harmnone has always been a fair moderator of ones context, intent, and general posting style on the forums.
I like you Stan, and I agree with your main sentiments but I think that you've been on a self destructive course for a minute now. I think that you have brought up some good points that have been and will continue to be completely overshadowed-overlooked because of your recent posting style. You are in the minority on this one.
I've seen Harmnone react to your posts, based on the level of offending she felt you'd done, in ways I've haven't seen with many of the worse posters we've had here. I'm not going to sit here and say that your posts have been regulated in the same manner of others who may be more deserving of the "attention", but you've caused quite a stir as of late and you had to know that it was going to come down to some unpleasant circumstances.
Example: this thread.
I think it would have been more fitting to discuss this with her in the same manner you've done in the past, U2U, maybe AIM, anything to derail a potentional train wreck from occuring. Kinda late for that, but you get my meaning.
Hulkein
06-10-2005, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Ebondale
Originally posted by Jolena
Oddly enough there was a time where Stanley did change. He was a very agreeable and accepted poster for many months in fact.
Yes, well. Drugs change people in incredible ways.
I don't know if you can say that's why.
He was doing his shit while he was considered by others to be cool.
Nieninque
06-10-2005, 03:57 PM
Skirm...why are you even trying to justify yourself to him.
I dont agree with everything you post, and I know you dont agree with everything that I do ;) ...but you are one of the people on the board whose opinions I respect.
Why are you worried because some sad fuck that thinks he is clever by getting caned and pissing over everyone that has any time, effort or love invested in him, has you blocked on U2U's?
Cause for celebration really...and most certainly a feather in your cap that a complete fucktard doesnt like you.
Skirm...why are you even trying to justify yourself to him.
She's extremely right, you know.
Originally posted by CrystalTears
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
On topic, Harmnone, I have a hard time believing that you really think the majority of posters on this board are going to express any degree of directness with staff as they will with fellow posters.
OMFG! :lol2: You really don't pay attention to anything that doesn't concern you, do you? Shall I point you to the number of posts and threads that have been made all against staff?
To be honest, the :violin: emoticon suits me well with respect to the matter. But if I can get one friggin' person to voice out a bit better about concerns, or whatever else they may have about your style, or any other staff's moderation, then that, and I don't care what anyone else says, is an awesome thing.
You want someone to lie on your behalf?
Right here and right now is what I mean.
If I see or saw some douche poster who makes a point that is actually agreeable in their critiquing of staff, I too am probably not going to express half the sentiment that they might be at the time.
I won't bump or link a thread about Moderator X when they get told the facts straight up. I should, but I don't.
The point is hopefully someone can. If I anger someone or make someone upset, they probably are going to be more defensive and stick to whatever view I am disagreeing that they have with even more so.
I obviously know that had I even unblocked Harmnone and sent her a U2U, as patronizing as I may think she is, instead of creating this thread, that obviously I could coax, manipulate or even innocently come to better understanding.
Here's where you haven't been paying attention: I'm fed up with her bullshit antics. Period. I don't need to come to an understanding, truce, agreement, etc. I am doing this because no matter how much you warp or misconstrue the facts, this is the reciprocating actions for something she obviously did. That's why this isn't:
Players' Corner Forums » Forum Concerns and Discussion » Staff Issues » Tijay »
Or..
Players' Corner Forums » Forum Concerns and Discussion » Staff Issues » Tsa`ah »
Or..
Players' Corner Forums » Forum Concerns and Discussion » Staff Issues » Kurili »
You have to get the idea by now, right?
[/quote]I agree with this too. I said in another thread that I don't think that a moderator's opinion should be held in any higher regard than anyone else's opinion since we're all only human.
Still, when your opinion consists of "omg u h8 me!!1 u r all teh sux and conspiracy omfg1". Holy crap, Stanley. Cry about it some more.[/quote]
Sure. That is why I'm going to be ready for a non-moderating poster as yourself, or anyone else for that matter, to help convey their message to me. NOT a moderator who wishes to abuse the administrative control panel.
Originally posted by Nieninque
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
I have Harmnone blocked because I find her patronizing as all hell.
I have Skirm blocked for the exact same reason + overzealousness.
:rofl:
And you want people to support your arguments?
fucking hell Stanley...you have moved from tranqs to acid? :lol2:
When you start supporting me, Nieninque, that'll be reason enough to move onto more hardcore drugs.
On-topic, I hope everyone has had the chance not to just read the first and last posts made in this thread.
Ravenstorm
06-10-2005, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
I feel you've been doing a sucky job Harmnone, people probably agree with me but as Raven just pointed out, it will be more dressed up than Gitmo before an inspection.
Are you high again, Stanley? I didn't point out anything of the sort. Your reading comprehension is obviously suffering so I'll try to make myself clear and use words of one syllable:
You are at fault. Shut up.
Raven
Of course I'm at fault you idiot, I'm just posting about about other people's involvement.
CrystalTears
06-10-2005, 04:21 PM
Here's where you haven't been paying attention: I'm fed up with her bullshit antics. Period. I don't need to come to an understanding, truce, agreement, etc. I am doing this because no matter how much you warp or misconstrue the facts, this is the reciprocating actions for something she obviously did.
And my point that you keep missing is that this isn't the first time that someone disagrees with a staff member's decision on editing/deleting posts, nor will it be the last.
Usually there is someone who will agree that the action was unfair. The problem here is that in this situation, you were the one at fault, which is why people are agreeing with her actions. No one sees this action that was so deserving of this thread yet.
If someone comes forth and states that they don't like HarmNone, it doesn't invalidate the fact that you have been a disruption lately that staff felt it needed to be addressed.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 04:26 PM
Heh. Having been on these boards as long as I have, if there aren't some people that don't like me, I haven't been doing my job as a moderator, or as a poster. ;)
*Okay...definitely time for a new keyboard*
[Edited on 6-10-2005 by HarmNone]
That's fine, this thread just speaks to that. Not like you'd care an iota more about its significance than solely gloating about it anyway.
Originally posted by HarmNone
*Okay...definitely time for a new keyboard*
[Edited on 6-10-2005 by HarmNone] Yeah, I was wondering what was up with that. Thought you were slipping for a minute there. :D
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
That's fine, this thread just speaks to that. Not like you'd care an iota more about its significance than solely gloating about it anyway.
Not sure what you mean by that statement, Stanley. However, if you're alluding to the fact that I don't care "an iota" whether people like me, or not, you're partially right. There are some people whose good auspices I hope to earn. There are others whose opinions move me not at all. I'm pretty sure that's true for most people, since nobody can please all the people all the time. To think one can is folly.
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by DeV
Originally posted by HarmNone
*Okay...definitely time for a new keyboard*
[Edited on 6-10-2005 by HarmNone] Yeah, I was wondering what was up with that. Thought you were slipping for a minute there. :D
Heh. That keyboard had been warning me for a few days that it was about to go Titanic on me. It did. :lol:
Ravenstorm
06-10-2005, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by HarmNone
Having been on these boards as long as I have, if there aren't some people that don't like me, I haven't been doing my job as a moderator, or as a poster.
Originally posted by HarmNone
There are others whose opinions move me not at all.
When I think about which specific people don't like me, I sleep better at night, content in the knowledge that I'm doing something right.
Raven
In that case, methinks you are incredibly fucking pathetic. I'd be more upset about wasting time typing something only to have it edited or deleted than someone who I can't even see or hear having an opinion. But that's just me.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
06-10-2005, 05:26 PM
<When I think about which specific people don't like me, I sleep better at night, content in the knowledge that I'm doing something right.
Raven>
Ditto. Sometimes it's the people who don't like me are why I read these boards.
Nieninque
06-10-2005, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
I have Harmnone blocked because I find her patronizing as all hell.
I have Skirm blocked for the exact same reason + overzealousness.
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell two days ago
Welcome aboard Skirmisher.
Good job at becoming a moderator on The Gemstone IV Players' Corner.
Oh how soon we forget...
In hindsight, I have to wonder.. How exactly do you know how often or not the others that you seem to be competing with get moderated? This whole rant seems to be based on some sort of posturing or guessing at how often other posters have posts removed, edited, etc. You can make an informed guess sure but honestly you really have no idea.
Originally posted by HarmNone
I always encourage the Anticor! It is the Anticor what makes life inneresting! Besides, the answer to any question is always: "What Anticor said." I've had that beaten into my skull inumerable times!:spin:
I hate you now. :(
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 08:35 PM
What am I to do, Dave? He'll beat me senseless if I don't say "What Anticor said"! I'm just a wee girlie, don'cha know. :D
Jolena
06-10-2005, 08:37 PM
He means you calling him The Anticor. :)
HarmNone
06-10-2005, 08:38 PM
But.....he wants to be called The Anticor. Failure to comply still brings on the beatings. I'm sensitive. Yeah. Sensitive. :whistle:
You're weak, and a despicable human being for what you have done.
Kainen
06-10-2005, 09:09 PM
Good god.. I admit I skipped over half this topic because I didnt want to see anymore of Stanley's "boohoo the Mods are picking on me".
Bottom line Stanley.. read the last paragraph in the agreement you said yes to when you registered here. HM can delete ALL your posts if she feels like it.. so can any other mod. Maybe if you didn't post complete and utter stupidity most of the time.. your posts wouldn't disappear so much. Personally I think she (and the rest of the mods) have been being nice. Quit crying about having posts deleted and post something worth taking time to read instead of all those quasi-smartass replies.
My only beef with HN is that she didn’t ban the person who I thought she should. Its not my call though. I have never offered to moderate. Otherwise, I would lay my life in her caring hands.
HN rocks the world.
Tsa`ah
06-10-2005, 10:02 PM
These threads always make me laugh.
Some are made for a reason, like yours Tsa'ah. Others like this one have no point except to get Stain the attention he wants.
Edit to add: You have been good though lately, we are proud of you Tsa'ah. :)
[Edited on 6-11-2005 by Dave]
Tsa`ah
06-10-2005, 10:56 PM
This thread is no different than any made about me. The one difference is that Stan has no supporters.
And just some FYI for you Dave ... I wasn't the "bad" one. I've just not had very much reason to edit.
That's usually how it works. Someone flips the bird to the TOS and gets spanked. After a few spankings it becomes the mod's "fault" for doing what they agreed to do.
I'm sure if our past "usuals" decided to return to old habits with the previous ban system in place, there would be a great deal more of these threads.
Originally posted by Kainen
Good god.. I admit I skipped over half this topic because I didnt want to see anymore of Stanley's "boohoo the Mods are picking on me".
Bottom line Stanley.. read the last paragraph in the agreement you said yes to when you registered here. HM can delete ALL your posts if she feels like it.. so can any other mod. Maybe if you didn't post complete and utter stupidity most of the time.. your posts wouldn't disappear so much. Personally I think she (and the rest of the mods) have been being nice. Quit crying about having posts deleted and post something worth taking time to read instead of all those quasi-smartass replies.
I've honestly known you to be an extreme sketchball poster so this post will probably "flip your bitch switch" as was elaborated on in your mood after you beefed with a thirteen-year old. Hint-hint. This goes for you and other reading-impaired idiots alike.
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If I could read TOS doing jumping jacks, standing on my head, walking backwards and blowing bubbles out of my ass hole it wouldn't matter jackshit as I made this awesome thread because a MOD did a shoddy job.
<<These threads always make me laugh.>>
Yeah they do. We should probably remove the Staff Issues folder entirely because nothing constructively could ever come out of pointing out someone else's errors, especially a staff member's.
<<Originally posted by Stanley Burrell two days ago
Welcome aboard Skirmisher.
Good job at becoming a moderator on The Gemstone IV Players' Corner.>>
I made that thread out of twisted boredom to fool people. I received a silly U2U from Skirmisher and I think that was before she was even given mod-status. She tried giving me pointers reflecting how I should post and naturally I took it extremely offensively.
Kainen
06-11-2005, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Blah blah blah
Yeah. Well actually, your post/s don't anger me at all.They just reinforce my opinion that you are annoying, not very interesting, one of the worst attention whores on these boards and a rather sad individual.
[Edited on 6-11-2005 by Kainen]
Iqxero
06-11-2005, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrellblah blah blah as I made this awesome thread because a MOD did a shoddy job. blah blah blah
But see Stanly, that's the point your missing. This thread is 6 pages of other people, some with 4k+ posts and some with less than a hundred, some with a staff banner, some without, telling you that she didn't do a shoddy job. She did, HER JOB.
And just to give my point no weight with you, since opinion is a sign of ass kissing and a feeble mind, if moderaters "doing a shoddy job" means I have to read less drivel and useless posts by disruptive members such as you, then I wish we had more mods "doing a shoddy job."
Jazuela
06-11-2005, 01:24 AM
I just wandered in from nowhere in particular and saw this thread at the top of "recent threads not visited lately" or whatever the clickie thing is.
So let me get this straight:
1) Stanley has been disruptive on the forum.
2) Stanley has been intentionally disruptive, knowing that "he done wrong."
3) Stanley has had some of his posts deleted and/or edited.
4) Stanley has -not- been banned, nor has he received any demerits.
5) Stanley wants to know what's up with that.
Now - if I have all my facts straight...here's my answer:
What's up with that, is that you have intentionally been disruptive and have had some of your posts deleted and/or edited. There ya go. The facts in a nutshell. I hope that helps you understand, Stanley.
(And they said I'd never be as smart as Einstein - harrumph!)
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