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Drew2
09-28-2003, 04:26 AM
I trained in Combat Maneuvers.

Nothing happened.

Wtf.

Someone explain.

Vesi
09-28-2003, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by Tayre
I trained in Combat Maneuvers.

Nothing happened.

Wtf.

Someone explain.

What do you mean 'nothing happened'? You mean that you trained in it and it didn't show you as trained or what?

Vesi

Artha
09-28-2003, 09:20 AM
You get +1 DS for every 5 ranks...so if you haven't trained in it 5 times yet, you won't see anything. Also, the more you train in it, the better you are at open ambushing, and the easier it will be to dodge maneuver attacks, though I don't think there's a known formula for the former or latter.

Drew2
09-28-2003, 11:02 AM
Artha told me what I needed to know. Though I thought it aided in AS too... oh well.

I have 6 ranks now by the way.

Miss X
09-28-2003, 11:05 AM
ugh.... Ive been training my cleric in CM every train because I thought it increased AS by 1 every 2 ranks!
Vx

Drew2
09-28-2003, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Miss X
ugh.... Ive been training my cleric in CM every train because I thought it increased AS by 1 every 2 ranks!
Vx

That's what darmaasen told me, but ... i dunno.

Artha
09-28-2003, 11:11 AM
It's every 5. I have 17 ranks, and have gotten +3 DS.

Adhara
09-28-2003, 11:25 AM
Was it changed? I remember clearly reading everywhere that it was +1 per 2 ranks when I rolled up Adhara.

Artha
09-28-2003, 11:30 AM
I'm going by personal experience, which is perfectly able to be wrong.

Trinitis
09-28-2003, 11:31 AM
no, its +1AS and +1 DS every 2 ranks, untill like..50 ranks or so..then it goes to every 3 ranks. Trust me ;)

-Adredrin

Halfsilver
09-28-2003, 11:33 AM
Adredrin is right.

Edaarin
09-28-2003, 11:36 AM
No...it's +1 parryable AS for every 2 ranks, granted on the odd rank (ie, you'll see an AS increase after training in it 3 times, 5 times, etc). It's no longer every 3 ranks past 50. My AS has gone up 3 every level since 25 or so.

Soulpieced
09-28-2003, 12:45 PM
CM is .5 AS per rank. So on the odd numbers you gain AS.

StrayRogue
09-28-2003, 12:55 PM
The DS part is of course changing come GS4 ;)

No more stupid clerics with CM, thank the Gods.

Artha
09-28-2003, 01:02 PM
lol. Rogues are going to have dodge, so maybe my DS will be more than 75 at level fifteen, with a 4x shield.

Artha
09-28-2003, 05:49 PM
It's not too bad, I just hunt things that take 10 seconds to swing.

Stunseed
09-29-2003, 03:41 AM
Big, slow, and stupid....It's why Stun is able to knock off Mammoths at 37 trains. I got time to Camo, Ambush < with a waraxe >, and almost rub a blue crystal if it's being stubborn. Prolly could if I make a quick script for it.

StrayRogue
09-29-2003, 03:43 AM
All fear Stay's offensive DS of 172!
Lvl 25 rogue, +18 armor, +25 warblade, +26 shield.
Self-Spelled.

AnticorRifling
09-29-2003, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
All fear Stay's offensive DS of 172!
Lvl 25 rogue, +18 armor, +25 warblade, +26 shield.
Self-Spelled.

That's it?

Edaarin
09-29-2003, 09:09 AM
I could have a DS of 70 something in offensive and it wouldn't make much of a difference.

Redux > DS

StrayRogue
09-29-2003, 09:46 AM
*nod* I just got redux this level. Considering I also wear crit padded armor, I'm taking nice hits these days, and this will only get better, until GS4 anyway.

The Cat In The Hat
09-30-2003, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by Miss X
ugh.... Ive been training my cleric in CM every train because I thought it increased AS by 1 every 2 ranks!
Vx

it does, I train in it religiously and you can see the added +1 every 2 trainings if you just pay attention

Morstanya
10-02-2003, 08:18 AM
The .5 DS per level is affected by stance isn't it ?

Mors