View Full Version : End the non-filibuster filibuster
~Rocktar~
11-08-2024, 04:57 PM
So, why on earth do we allow the filibuster to just be some jackass standing up and saying they declare it without actually doing it? Let's move politics along and make it so you again have to stand up and filibuster the right way instead of making it comfortable for everyone to just hold up doing the people's business. And yes, I know that it will hurt Republicans from time to time, that is the nature of politics, we need to move our country forward.
Gelston
11-08-2024, 04:59 PM
I'd love to watch someone read War and Peace from cover to cover in the House.
Suppressed Poet
11-08-2024, 06:25 PM
I know my opinion will be unpopular, but I think we should keep the filibuster. Once you open the flood gates to getting rid of that, it can’t be undone. There will be retribution from the left later on legislation we don’t want. With the current status of politics and how divided we are, my opinion is we should force Congress to work together on bipartisan legislation.
Pros and cons to both having it and not, but recent history tells us it’s more likely than not Democrats will control our government in 4 years.
Parkbandit
11-08-2024, 07:52 PM
I know my opinion will be unpopular, but I think we should keep the filibuster. Once you open the flood gates to getting rid of that, it can’t be undone. There will be retribution from the left later on legislation we don’t want. With the current status of politics and how divided we are, my opinion is we should force Congress to work together on bipartisan legislation.
Pros and cons to both having it and not, but recent history tells us it’s more likely than not Democrats will control our government in 4 years.
I don't think it's an unpopular opinion at all.
We were against it when Dems were in power.. we should be against it when Reps are in power.
Just like packing the Court or any other retarded thing the Dems were suddenly for when they were in power and now absolutely against.
Because one of the biggest traits among Democrats is their hypocrisy and lack of any principles.
Suppressed Poet
11-08-2024, 10:17 PM
I don't think it's an unpopular opinion at all.
We were against it when Dems were in power.. we should be against it when Reps are in power.
Just like packing the Court or any other retarded thing the Dems were suddenly for when they were in power and now absolutely against.
Because one of the biggest traits among Democrats is their hypocrisy and lack of any principles.
On packing the courts, strategically speaking we don’t have to. It’s estimated Trump will get 3 more appointments in the next 4 years. Still, I agree with everything what you said.
Methais
11-09-2024, 09:07 AM
I'd love to watch someone read War and Peace from cover to cover in the House.
I think Rand Paul read Green Eggs & Ham a few years ago. It's a start.
Suppressed Poet
11-09-2024, 10:49 AM
I think Rand Paul read Green Eggs & Ham a few years ago. It's a start.
Ted Cruz
https://youtu.be/0HJuaQL3KRI?si=9-2r57us9SNzmOd2
Realk
11-10-2024, 04:44 AM
I've never thought much about Ted Cruz at all but that is pretty awesome.
Gelston
11-11-2024, 08:39 AM
I know my opinion will be unpopular, but I think we should keep the filibuster. Once you open the flood gates to getting rid of that, it can’t be undone. There will be retribution from the left later on legislation we don’t want. With the current status of politics and how divided we are, my opinion is we should force Congress to work together on bipartisan legislation.
Pros and cons to both having it and not, but recent history tells us it’s more likely than not Democrats will control our government in 4 years.
I don't think Rocktard meant get rid of filibusters, just make it so that you have to actually talk through the entire time instead of just sitting there quietly.
ClydeR
11-11-2024, 08:53 AM
The filibuster should be reformed, for sure.
Once, the filibuster served a useful purpose. When a Senator felt that the majority was rushing through something that the public would oppose, the filibuster allowed the Senator to slow things down enough to draw public attention to the matter. Today, any Senator who is outraged by something happening in the Senate could get on at least one of the prime time news shows tonight and, even more quickly, could attract attention through any number of social media platforms.
I say replace it with the right for any Senator to delay a vote for 48 hours. If you think about it, as I encourage you to do, delaying a vote for 48 hours is the same as requiring advance notice of a vote, which is something Republicans, especially in the House, have been demanding for some time.
Requiring actual debate is not a good solution, which is why it was replaced with the current cloture system. When there is an actual filibuster, the Senate cannot proceed with any other business until the filibuster is resolved. Try getting anybody confirmed to office when the Senate is filibustering something unrelated.
~Rocktar~
11-11-2024, 09:51 AM
I don't think Rocktar meant get rid of filibusters, just make it so that you have to actually talk through the entire time instead of just sitting there quietly.
Correct, I thought that was pretty clear.
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