Star Wars: Episode III (Warning: Spoiler inside)

[Kitsun]

Going to see it in 2 hours! Who else is going?!

A proper tributenessitity...

Chants:
My backpacks got jets
I'm Boba the Fett
I bounty hunt for Jabba Hutt
To finance my vet
I chill in deep space
There's a mask ovah my face

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/galaxies1.html

[Edited on 23-5-05 by Miss X]

[Sean of the Thread]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/viewthread.php?tid=14709

[Praefection]

Am I the only one who isn't pissing my pants in anticipation of watching this?

[Sean of the Thread]

Merchandising! Merchandising!

We got your Starwars backpacks.. your Starwars lunchboxes..your Starwars Boba Fett Flame Thrower.. and your Starwars slave leia pet costume???? WTF hahaha.

[Seany Analog]

Chants:
My backpacks got jets
I'm Boba the Fett
I bounty hunt for Jabba Hutt
To finance my vet
I chill in deep space
There's a mask ovah my face

That was the dumbest shit ever.

[Hips]

OMG SO FUCKING AMAZING I WANT TO HUMP DARTH VADER!!!

:heart: :heart:

bedtime now, night all.

[SayGoodbye]

:spaz::spaz::spaz::spaz::spaz::spaz:


I liked it.

[AnticorRifling]

It was awesome. Wife wasn't happy I made her go with me but that's cool it was still a kick ass movie. :cool:

[Warriorbird]

Sometimes you just gotta be like... "Hey, I married you! Get into the bag!"

[Drew]

IT WAS SOOOOOO GOOD!

[Parkbandit]

I R TIRED THIS MORNING.

But it was worth it.

It was worth the 30 minutes it took me to park.

It was worth the parking ticket I should have gotten.

It was worth the $10 ticket price

It was worth watching the retards in the theater with their little lightsabers.

It was worth not having popcorn because the line was fucking long.

It was worth drinking a diet coke I snuck in that was warm.

It was worth the 45 minutes it took me to get out of the movie, get in my car and drive 4 miles to my home.

It was worth not being able to sleep well due to the diet coke.

It was worth not being able to play WoW tonight because I will be in bed by 6.

It was a good movie.............

Did I mention I R TIRED yet?

[AnticorRifling]

Hahaha you're old.

Diet coke, being tired, going to bed at six tonight.

I didn't know they let people out of assisted living to go to movies.....


That being said I didn't go to bed last night, I've got lodge tonight, and today looks like it's going to be busy. And I've got ass chewings on my schedule to day so I feel bad for the idiot that was like "Per Wayne this is ok." and then I found out about it and so I get to be like "Per Wayne, which is me last I checked, kick rocks bitch I'll need your badge."

[Xandalf]

So it's actually worth seeing eh?

But the real question is.. does it live up to the 25 years of hype?

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by Xandalf
So it's actually worth seeing eh?

But the real question is.. does it live up to the 25 years of hype?

Yes it's worth seeing.

I don't know if it lives up to 25 years of hype I haven't been alive that long.

[Xandalf]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling

Originally posted by Xandalf
So it's actually worth seeing eh?

But the real question is.. does it live up to the 25 years of hype?

Yes it's worth seeing.

I don't know if it lives up to 25 years of hype I haven't been alive that long.

That makes two of us. But star wars nerds have been talking about this film since then.

Anyway, for any of you who actually saw the film the night it opened, I wanna hear some stories!

I KNOW some crazy and funny shit went down waiting in line to get in! Let's hear about it!

[kheldarin]

The movie was amazing, let's put it at that.

But yeah, I got off work at 9:30pm, jumped in line with my friends (who've been there since only 8pm), waited a total of 30 minutes, got in, got the best fuckin seats in the house, and was amazed at the badass-ness of this movie.

It's funny how people waited in line for days to see this movie and I only waited a total of 2 1/2 hours.

SPOILER, but not really: When the Jedi were killed one by one, I kept saying, "Oh, that's fucked up" for each Jedi that died. Fuckin' clone troopers, argh.

Darth Vader in his suit at the end seemed really cheesy compared to the rest of the movie. He was much better as Anakin.

[Back]

Thanks for the spoiler. :clap:

[The Korean]

If you've seen episode 4, there's no way you couldn't know that they were going to get slaughtered.

[Back]

Thats not the spoiler I was talking about. But its my own fault for reading this thread in the first place. No biggie.

[Jadewolff]

I actually skipped over the post as soon as I read spoiler...I knew it had to happen.

[SayGoodbye]

Now that I've actually slept...

Yes, yes, yes. It's worth the ten bucks, go see this movie!

Also I laughed my ass off at the Han solo, Luke and Vaders walking around, that just made it all so much better.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Backlash
Thats not the spoiler I was talking about. But its my own fault for reading this thread in the first place. No biggie.

Which one then? The Darth Vader suit at the end? Because... this was a mystery? :D

[TheEschaton]

Is it truly horrible that I'm going to the capital (8 hours, 700 something km away) to see this movie tomorrow?

I have to be there Monday, anyways, to meet my parents in Windhoek...but still.

-TheE-

[Kitsun]

Lucas so needed a blooper reel at the end with Darth Vader looking down at his crotch and going, "How the HELL am I supposed to piss in this thing?!"

[Izalude]

There was some freaks dressed in Jedi robes at the one I went to... but get this...

THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOMEONE DRESSED LIKE BOBA FETT!

Seriously... He must have paid a fortune to get the movie replica armor. It was perfect.

... what a freak.

After the movie ended, there were a bunch of reporters at the theater interviewing people.

Now in regards to the movie. To me, it answered all my questions, and it tied up all the loose ends. If I had to rank all 6 movies from best to worst, it'd be this:

The Empire Strikes Back
Revenge of the Sith
A New Hope
Return of the Jedi
Attack of the Clones
The Phantom Menace

In the movie, I especially liked the first lightsaber fight between Dooku and Anakin. The speed at which they fight in this movie goes above and beyond all the others. It all happens so quickly, and it's executed perfectly.

Lastly, I think the lines could have been a bit better. The acting was kind of dry, but the visuals, at least for me, make up for it. They are absolutely breathtaking... Especially on the Wookie Homeworld.

[hectomaner]

cant wait to get home and burn it and watch it. i had 80% as of this morning before work

[CrystalTears]

There's just some movies you have to see on the big screen. Seeing special effects, or a movie like Star Wars for that matter, on a dinkie computer monitor or TV screen just doesn't cut it for me.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by hectomaner
cant wait to get home and burn it and watch it. i had 80% as of this morning before work

Bit Torrent? U2U me the link so I know which one to grab.

[kheldarin]

Yeah, watching this movie with a crappy resolution won't do it justice.

[Drew]

Pictures from last night. Just basically copied this off my LJ.




Star Wars nerds
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Two female Jedi and a male Jedi so afraid of females that he has to have a two foot buffer zone:
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These people had been there since 6PM, but I went up to the front of the line and the people up there had been in line since 6AM


Out of focus jedis. When I went to take their picture I said "Everyone smile and say nerd!" which they didn't find very amusing.
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So we are sitting there and then we are like "holy **** is that girl wearing a slave Leia costume???"
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Yes, yes she is.
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Two nerds battle over who gets shotgun when mom picks them up
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All told Palace had ten theaters playing Star Wars, and before the started letting people in the line wrapped nearly around the entire building. We got there at 9pm (three hours before show time) and there were already about 500 people in front of us. Alex brought some beer and all the other nerds stared in shock and awe. One opined "A real jedi does not dull his senses." Now we know, and knowing is half the battle.:rolleyes:

[Back]

Damn, good shots. Leia’s a brave brave woman. And who does she show up with? Darth is the MAN.

Just got back from it. I’ll save the comments and as I said earlier the spoiler wasn’t that bad. Took my camera, but only saw one jedi, so didn’t bother. I had expected more people, but we got in line only 45 minutes before the 9pm show and got great seats.

[Gan]

Just got back from seeing it. OUTSTANDING!!!

enough said

[The Cat In The Hat]

Just got home! Was interesting. Met up with Atlanteax, Phnenomenon and Nindy's players. All great guys :)

The movie... Opening credits had me a bit teary eyed, yes, IM A GEEK... Seeing Vader become Vader was just... Amazing. Hayden's acting improved a tiny bit, not saying much... Portman was still just as bad. Then again, Star Wars has never been known for it's amazing actors.

Sad to see it end but I liked it lots!

[Edited on 5-20-2005 by The Cat In The Hat]

[hectomaner]

1680x1050 on a 20" widescreen isnt 'dinky' or 'crappy resolution' if you ask me. does me just fine


and a damn fine movie i might say

[Vitruvian]

I loved it, left from work at noon, just so I didnt have to fight the crowds! By far the best of I, II, III... IV, V, VI, are just to classic. Cant wait to see it again with buddies! Poor Annikan, they did him dirty!

Can the series really be over? Lucas says YES! But I think Fox will put the pressure on! Yes, Lucas can retire on 9 billion already, but, come on man. 7, 8, and 9 are due!

[Edited on 5-20-2005 by Vitruvian]

[Edited on 5-20-2005 by Vitruvian]

[Drew]

Originally posted by Backlash
Damn, good shots. Leia’s a brave brave woman. And who does she show up with? Darth is the MAN.


When they walked in someone yelled "DUDE THAT"S YOUR DAUGHTER", it was pretty damn funny.

Originally posted by Praefection
Am I the only one who isn't pissing my pants in anticipation of watching this?

Im just gonna go get the bootleg dvd myself.

[Atlanteax]

3 was definately an improvement over 1 and 2 as far as plot-line and dialogue are concerned.

.

Meanwhile, I have to wonder how anyone can take Anakin Skywalker seriously ... instead of making him a great villian like he did with Palpatine, George Lucas made AS the kind of self-absorbed brat that you just roll your eyes at.

Seems like every part of the movie that did not involve AS, was outstanding.

Which to me, is kinda like an oxymoron.

[Vitruvian]

Atlanteax, kinda has a point, but that was Hayden Christensens fault as well as George Lucas. But fuck, if you get a guy that can choke you without even touching you. You BETTER respect his ass!

[Edited on 5-20-2005 by Vitruvian]

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Atlanteax
Meanwhile, I have to wonder how anyone can take Anakin Skywalker seriously ... instead of making him a great villian like he did with Palpatine, George Lucas made AS the kind of self-absorbed brat that you just roll your eyes at.

Which kinda makes sense to me, seeing as how he's Luke's father, and Luke was a rather self-absorbed brat as well. It's all about protection of family and self, and not SO much about power, which is why Darth was able to be turned back to save his son's life. They're not much different in my eyes.

[Trouble]

I saw it last night and liked it. The effects were a little busy at times, but they did a great job of filling the huge gap between Episode II and IV.

Like people mentioned, they definitely snuck in initially gradual and eventually blatant designs from IV into things.
Even the little blue and red insignia the officers wore in Ep IV appeared on the clones...

Bad: my beloved Natalie put up a lame showing, but that may have been due to poor scripting. Along the same lines, the love story part was a dead weight, like the Ep II.

Good: great job of explaining how Vader got all jacked-up, physically and emotinally.

I liked it the best of the prequels for sure. I'll definitely get this one on DVD.

[StrayRogue]

I thought it was awesome and I'm a star wars geek. Can't wait to see it again though I expect it to be cut, as it was a bit graphic.

[Parker]

Oh, gosh, i'd hope not..I still haven't seen it.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
I thought it was awesome and I'm a star wars geek. Can't wait to see it again though I expect it to be cut, as it was a bit graphic.

What do you mean expect it to be cut? :?:

[StrayRogue]

The end. Where Anakin is sort of pwned with the fire. They cut a few seconds of the first and second death scenes (from the previous) so I expect they'll do the same come the video release. I hope not but I won't be suprised either.

[CrystalTears]

How many times have you seen it that you noticed they cut it already? That's that bullshit if they did.

However if they do, they better include them in the DVD release.

[Edited on 5/20/2005 by CrystalTears]

[StrayRogue]

Oh I have a good memory for movie scenes. Plus I'm a nut so I did the previous two god knows how many times prior to the VHS and DVD release. Time will tell.

Frankly, I'm going to see the movie for these following reasons:

1. Rise of the Imperial Navy and take over of the galaxy.

2. Massive space battles involving TIE Fighters and Star Destroyers

3. Seeing how they made Storm Troopers, Imperial Officers, and Imperial equipment look with the new special effects we have today.

4. The birth of the Rebel Alliance and maybe even a few battles with the Rebellion

5. Vader's entire story.

6. How the Rebublic transforms completely into the Galactic Empire.

7. Large land battles where the Empire just completely cleans house.


Are these following seven conditions met? That's what I'm curious about.

- Arkans

[Back]

Originally posted by Arkans
1. Rise of the Imperial Navy and take over of the galaxy.

- Arkans

Imperial Navy? Which series have you been watching. HAR

Hurry up and go see it. Threads are going to start talking about details and I’m anxious to compare notes on certain allegories made in the movie.

Considering I'm the largest Star Wars fan (without being a fucking nerd about it) here and I have my first day off in two weeks this weekend (fucking drill weekend) I gotta go see it ASAP!

- Arkans

[StrayRogue]

Most of the stuff you've listed doesn't even happen. Not as you expect or percieve it anyway.

I'm worried now :(

- Arkans

[Wezas]

Downloaded it last night. When I threw it from my video card to our widescreen my girl bitched at me a bit - blah blah blah, you're going to get arrested. Pretty decent quality except for the timestamps up top.

[StrayRogue]

Seeing it at the cinema is a better experience.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Seeing it at the cinema is a better experience.

But it's raining. :saint:

[Asha]

I wanna watch it tonight, but I'm scared to go on my own . .
I'll look wierd.

[Back]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Seeing it at the cinema is a better experience.

I used to agree. I mean, the sound, the huge picture... previews, popcorn the whole experience. But lately I’ve noticed what really fucks it up the most are people talking, hooting, crinkling a wrapper ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE GODAM MOVIE...

I swear sometimes I think I’m going to flip-out and kill everybody in the theater then wail on my air guitar.

[Parkbandit]

I would rather watch a movie on my big screen HD TV with surround sound. It's amazing that movie theaters are still using 30 year old technology. I sometimes get distracted by the squiggy colored lines that run on the screen throughout the movie.

HD > Movie Theater

[CrystalTears]

For me, the bigger the blockbuster with more people, the more exciting is it to see it at the movies. Even though people are talking and chatting through some of it, the clapping, cheering and laughing really makes it more fun to watch. I can't wait to see it!

[StrayRogue]

Yeah. I feel sorry for you guys over there. I'm trying not to be all HATE AMERICAN here but from what I've seen I know I'd hate to go the cinema over there. Cheering, mass chatter, over-zealous stupid laughter at every insignificant joke etc would make me want to kill someone. I was getting angry and this guy blowing his nose the other night at SW3. I can only imagine how bad it is over there. Sometimes it is good to be reserved and placid ;)

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Yeah. I feel sorry for you guys over there. I'm trying not to be all HATE AMERICAN here but from what I've seen I know I'd hate to go the cinema over there. Cheering, mass chatter, over-zealous stupid laughter at every insignificant joke etc would make me want to kill someone. I was getting angry and this guy blowing his nose the other night at SW3. I can only imagine how bad it is over there. Sometimes it is good to be reserved and placid ;)

LOL.. it's clearly not that bad over here. I imagine you have the exact same distractions we do in your "moving picture houses".

:P

[StrayRogue]

Well theres no clapping or cheering (although there was some applause when it ended, which is the FIRST time I've ever seen in my two decades of cinema going). The only thing I've ever had to combat is a screaming child.

[CrystalTears]

Heh, I've been in audiences that applauded at the end of EVERY Star Wars movie. I have a feeling this won't be any different.

No cheering even when Yoda and/or Windu was kicking ass? That's unfortunate.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
I would rather watch a movie on my big screen HD TV with surround sound. It's amazing that movie theaters are still using 30 year old technology. I sometimes get distracted by the squiggy colored lines that run on the screen throughout the movie.

HD > Movie Theater


PB, I hate to disillusion you, but film in movie theaters is HD and DVD is not. If you happen to get HBO and HBO HD flip between the the two and you'll note the HD channel is much sharper and crisper, that's because it's coming from an HD scan of the film which you can't get on a DVD.


You won't be able to watch movies in high-def until blu-ray and HD-DVD debuts next year. You'll need to buy a player for either format (it's going to be like beta vs. VHS) and then a disc in that format to watch a movie in HD.


So you can argue that you like the home experience better, but you aren't getting the best picture quality unless you see it in the theater.

[Drew]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Well theres no clapping or cheering (although there was some applause when it ended, which is the FIRST time I've ever seen in my two decades of cinema going). The only thing I've ever had to combat is a screaming child.



You know you're going to see it 20 times anyway, why not have a fun experience the first time you see it? That's how all feel at least, we had all those jedis and stormtroopers dressed up and everyone was having a lot of fun while we waited for it to start then everyone was cheering at the good parts during the movie, but not over the dialougue. I thought it was a lot of fun.

[StrayRogue]

We had people dressed up. I was shown to my seat by a slave girl Leia. However when I watch a movie I like to be absorbed into it. I don't like to be distracted by some clown who finds a certain part funny/sad etc. I treat the cinema the same as the theatre in that respect.

[Artha]

Instead of going to school today, I saw this movie. No regrets.

[Edaarin]

Haven't seen a single one of the Star Wars movies

[Drew]

Originally posted by Edaarin
Haven't seen a single one of the Star Wars movies



Must be an asian thing.

[Sean of the Thread]

WOOO OWOOOO it was great. There were a few things I didn't like in the beginning but I quickly forgot about them as the movie progressed.

[Wezas]

Drew speaks the truth about HD DVD's. But I also agree with PB. HD (or DVD quality video/sound on your HDTV) > Theater

[Asha]

How long did it take to download?

[Wezas]

About 4 hours over Cable Modem.

Quality is pretty damn good. Aspect ratio is good (I had to stretch the window to get the widescreen affect, if you watch it normally they're all skinny) Sound is stereo and very nice.

If it weren't for the timestamps at the top of the screen it would be a perfect copy.

[Drew]

Just saw it the second time :popcorn: Still good!

[Drew2]

Noobs. Saw the Midnight showing and then the 3:50pm showing the same day.

It kicked ass. Yoda is a pimp. The end.

[Showal]

<<I loved it, left from work at noon, just so I didnt have to fight the crowds! By far the best of I, II, III... IV, V, VI, are just to classic. Cant wait to see it again with buddies! Poor Annikan, they did him dirty!

Can the series really be over? Lucas says YES! But I think Fox will put the pressure on! Yes, Lucas can retire on 9 billion already, but, come on man. 7, 8, and 9 are due!>>

I wonder if they ever will show Luke go to the dark side and then come back like he does in the books.

I've seen it twice so far. It was really good if you ask me. I couldnt stand episode I and II was just ok. I'm glad he didnt make it all corny and cartoony like he's done with the remakes and what not. I think he used the advances in special effects and stuff really well. He made the cities look amazing.

When I went the first time, it was a private showing. There was clapping when the lucas logo came up at the beginning, cheering during some parts and then applause at the end. The second time was a general showing that had people acting like retards and cheering things like "STAAAAAAAR WARS YEEEEEAAAAAAH!" at the beginning. It was kind of obnoxious. I only got to see really little kids dressed up, it was funny. I havent been to the movie theater in what ... 4 or 5 years? Wait no, that's a lie, last movie I saw in the theaters was gangs of new york, but that was in a tiny movie house near my house ... that doesnt count. So yeah, gladiator I think was the last movie I saw in a big movie theater.

I agree with PB. I'd rather watch it at home and be able to sit on my comfortable couch/chair/bed and not in a cramped seat. I got a big TV so that probably helps. I gotta say, I'm more than happy I saw this movie in the theater though. My TV is no match for a movie screen.

[CrystalTears]

As far as I know, from all the interviews I've seen of Lucas, he's not doing anymore Star Wars movies. That was it.

And you know, even though doing the final three movies would be very cool, it just wouldn't be as good since the original cast is much older and the continuity would really be screwed. It would have had to been shot in the same manner as LoTR.. all at the same time.

[StrayRogue]

A live action series is in the works now.

[CrystalTears]

Yeah but it has nothing really to do with what follows the movies or even about the main characters. :shrug:

[StrayRogue]

Yeah it does as its based in the same universe amidst the same events.

[CrystalTears]

What I mean is that they aren't the sequels to the movies, nor do they involve the main characters.

[Warriorbird]

Well done anime sequels could be neat. Hiring better writers would help too.

[DCSL]

Alright... I liked it but there were things wrong with it. The dialogue was, once again, utter crap. But Lucas can't write dialogue, so I didn't really expect more.

That and the way Grievous was shown in the movie were the two things I hated most. Those of you who are big Star Wars fans have, of course, seen the Clone War cartoon stuff from Cartoon Network. Grievous kicked ASS in there. He went by himself into a tower filled with four jedi and a padawan and whooped them all like it was nothing. He grabbed one guy's head with his foot. How cool is that?!

But in the movie, he was a cowardly little bitch. He kept running away from jedi when he was supposed to be this AWESOME jedi hunter. He barely did anything neat with his lightsabers 'cept the twirly thing, acting like he'd only just learned about them from Dooku. His lightsaber collection was pitiful and his fighting style wasn't nearly as dynamic as it was supposed to be. He didn't use his feet at all 'cept to shove Kenobi ONCE! And how did he die? Shot like a punk.

As an enormous Grievous fan, I protest.

[StrayRogue]

Well Obi was a Jedi master on the council who was the pwn, and Anakin was the Daddy anyways. I agree though, they sort of left alot of what they could of done with him.

[Back]

With all that advanced technology you’d think they’d figure out how to makes some decent maternity wear... but no, here comes Padme, purple mumu and sweat pants.

And whats up with her still being preggers on her death bed?

[Hips]

Originally posted by DCSL
As an enormous Grievous fan, I protest.

I protest that they made him cough like a chain-smoker. I didn't see any of that crap in the Clone Wars series... why now in the movie?

[Kefka]

Actually, Timothy Zahn wrote a great trilogy that would be a worthy successor to Lucas' creation.

Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising
The Last Command


[Edited on 5-21-2005 by Kefka]

[Gan]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Heh, I've been in audiences that applauded at the end of EVERY Star Wars movie. I have a feeling this won't be any different.

No cheering even when Yoda and/or Windu was kicking ass? That's unfortunate.

No dressed up folks, only 1 baby that remained uncommonly quiet considering how loud it was, and no cell phones going off, there was one kid who had his laptop open during the long wait before the preview started - I'd have cracked up if he was playing GS or something but it looked like he was going over a paper for a class.

Plenty of applause anytime Yoda kicked ass, and at the last fight scene between Anakin and Obi Won.

Great movie, great crowd, great theater. Excellent combination.

[Back]

Obi (name of a great korean beer) is the real man in the series. Jedi to the heart. He trained Anakin then laughed at him and left him to burn. Later, he held him off as Darth Vader but sacrificed himself so Luke and Leia could escape.

[Slider]

Originally posted by Kefka
Actually, Timothy Zahn wrote a great trilogy that would be a worthy successor to Lucas' creation.

Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising
The Last Command


[Edited on 5-21-2005 by Kefka]

Damn good series. Timothy Zahn is a really good writer who did a better job with the series than Lucus did. Grand Admiral Thrawn was one scary guy; if he'd had the Death Star instead of that idiot Tarkin, the Rebel alliance would have been history.

[SayGoodbye]

Originally posted by GS3 Michiko

Originally posted by DCSL
As an enormous Grievous fan, I protest.

I protest that they made him cough like a chain-smoker. I didn't see any of that crap in the Clone Wars series... why now in the movie?

At the end of Clone Wars, Windu crushed his chest. I'd forgotten too and was wondering about it, but someone reminded me. ;)

[Back]

Not having seen the cartoon, I was wondering why a droid was hacking.

[Sean]

Originally posted by Backlash
And whats up with her still being preggers on her death bed?

I'm assuming that would have something to do with them not wanting the empire to know her children were born...

[DCSL]

Originally posted by SayGoodbye

At the end of Clone Wars, Windu crushed his chest. I'd forgotten too and was wondering about it, but someone reminded me. ;)

Still doesn't explain why he suddenly sucked dead rat. I cry.

[TheEschaton]

I had a few questions: Yoda and Obi Wan altered the message from the Temple to tell Jedi to stay away, etc, etc, etc, clearly operating under the impression that maybe there were some still alive out there. They knew about the destruction of the Jedi at the Temple, and they realized that assassination attempts had been made on them, and Senator Ortega (not his real name, I suppose, but he looks like an Ortega) informed them of what was going down....but they still did it - is it possible there were Jedi who weren't involved in the war, and thus didn't have clones sniping them down, and more than the two survived? I mean, someone musta been on a sabbatical on some Outer Rim planet getting in touch with the Force, right? The way they left that hanging kinda aggrevated me.

Another question: if Anakin wasn't at the birth of his kids, how does he know they even survived the childbirth? Does he not know of Luke's birth until Episode V, when he reveals he's his father? I suppose that makes sense, because knowing the Prophecy, he'd want to tie up loose ends and destroy his kid before he grows up with a serious Oedipal complex. And his aunt and uncle would be the best place to start.

I loved the themes - Lucas has always been good at that, but he hit it dead on. Light vs. Dark, the seduction of the Dark Side, etc.

And, speaking of themes: anyone notice that Padme seemed to be consistently echoing liberal, anti-war, dare I say anti-Bush stances?

"So, this is how liberty dies.....to thundering applause."

"Do you ever feel we're fighting on the wrong side, that instead of preserving it, we're working to destroy it?" (this one's a paraphrase)

In fact, there were liberal tinges throughout the whole thing...muahahaha. So sez I.

-TheE-

[Back]

Originally posted by TheEschaton
And, speaking of themes: anyone notice that Padme seemed to be consistently echoing liberal, anti-war, dare I say anti-Bush stances?

"So, this is how liberty dies.....to thundering applause."

"Do you ever feel we're fighting on the wrong side, that instead of preserving it, we're working to destroy it?" (this one's a paraphrase)

In fact, there were liberal tinges throughout the whole thing...muahahaha. So sez I.

-TheE-

To me, it was so blatantly obvious it shocked me right out of the suspension of disbelief. I don’t think any other movie in the series used the word Democracy once, let alone a few times.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by TheEschaton
I had a few questions: Yoda and Obi Wan altered the message from the Temple to tell Jedi to stay away, etc, etc, etc, clearly operating under the impression that maybe there were some still alive out there. They knew about the destruction of the Jedi at the Temple, and they realized that assassination attempts had been made on them, and Senator Ortega (not his real name, I suppose, but he looks like an Ortega) informed them of what was going down....but they still did it - is it possible there were Jedi who weren't involved in the war, and thus didn't have clones sniping them down, and more than the two survived?

Some Jedi did survive yes.


Originally posted by TheEschaton
Another question: if Anakin wasn't at the birth of his kids, how does he know they even survived the childbirth? Does he not know of Luke's birth until Episode V, when he reveals he's his father? I suppose that makes sense, because knowing the Prophecy, he'd want to tie up loose ends and destroy his kid before he grows up with a serious Oedipal complex. And his aunt and uncle would be the best place to start.


Vader does not know. In the updated original trilogy the Emperor says something like "I feel he is the son of Skywalker" and Vader replies "that is impossible". The Emperor in turn says "Search your feelings, you know it to be true".

[Drinin]

I caught it last night, and a few things that I noticed:

First, when Anakin was in the Council chamber and Mace Windu told him that he would be permitted to sit on the council, but would not be given the title of master, Anakin replied, "What?!" . . . was anyone else expecting Mace to stand up and go, "Say 'what' again mother fucker! I dare you, say 'what' again! Heh.

And secondly, what an ungrateful bitch. Anakin murdered jedi, stopped the war, and was willing to overthrow the emperor . . . all for Padme, and she pretty much said, "No thanks".

Third. Ok, so I'm assuming that there's about a 19-20 year difference between 3 and 4. So . . . the first Death Star takes 20 years to construct, but the second one takes about . . . 9 months (Yah yah, it wasn't finished but it was close enough)? Perhaps they started building the second one 5 or 10 years after the first and not the full 20? Or maybe it was the better quality contractors used on the second Death Star . . .

Fourth. What the fuck have they been doing to R2-D2? I wasn't into his rocket pack shit at all.

Fifth. Wedge made it in, awesome.

All in all, a good movie. It had what I want to see in a Star Wars movie: space battles and lightsabre fights. I'd put it as my second favorite, right behind Empire.

[Edited on 5-22-2005 by Drinin]

[StrayRogue]

Where was Wedge?

[Drinin]

At the end, Obi Wan handed over C-3PO and R2-D2 to Captain Antilles (Wedge).

[crazymage]

http://www.moviehole.net/news/5661.html

[StrayRogue]

That isn't Wedge. It's a different Antilles.

[Hips]

I think it's Wedge's dad.

Also, the senator is ORGANA... kinda close to Ortega, I guess. =P

The movie, in my opinion, was a bit over rated. I don't think they allocated the time all to well. The build up for Palpatine's take-over took a long time and it left a huge gap still inbetween 3 and 4.

Take for instance, there really is no mention of the Rebel Alliance coming into its own. Not even a word of Mon Mothma or even any type of organized resistance by supporters of truth, justice, and the American way.

Overall, the movie was great. I loved how Vader became what he is. I was a bit disappointed with the red, yellow, and all that colored stormtroopers, and the Star Destroyers didn't look exactly as they did back in the other movies. Still good though.

- Arkans

PS: That couldn't have been Wedge at all.

[Left Wing Brat]

<<As far as I know, from all the interviews I've seen of Lucas, he's not doing anymore Star Wars movies. That was it. >>

He also wasn't going to release 4, 5 and 6 on DVD.

Lucas will do whatever will make Lucas money.


Questions still left unanswered and raised by Revenge of the Sith:

How does Leah remember her mother (as stated in jedi) if her mother died right after giving birth to her?

When Luke leaves Yoda in Empire, Kenobi says "that boy is our only (last?) hope." To which Yoda replies "no, there is another."
So um, Obi kinda was there when Leah was born...did he have a memory lapse?

Finaly, now that we know the back story, is there a bigger liar in the Star Wars Universe then Obi-won? It's funny how fear, agression, passion, and anger all lead the the dark side, but lieing and stretching the truth is ok, just so long as it's true from your point of view.

Finaly, to the guy asking about the time it took to create the second death star...

There is no time frame between the movies that is clearly stated. If you look at it, the Rebels had time build a base on hoth in a snow moutain, and that was after spending who knows how long searching planets for thier next base.

Even Boba Fett went from about what 12 to 40 something between 2 and 5, so I'd say there was a pretty big gap between 4 and 5, which would be plenty of time to start a new DS.

[Drinin]

<<There is no time frame between the movies that is clearly stated. If you look at it, the Rebels had time build a base on hoth in a snow moutain, and that was after spending who knows how long searching planets for thier next base. >>

Yah, I suppose so. I had always been operating under the guesstimate that the time between 4 and 5 was about 3-5 years. Obi's age screws me up too. He looks mid-30's at the end of 3, yet he looks about 70 in 4. Guess that harsh desert sun screwed him up. Ah well it's just a movie, it doesn't have to make sense.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Left Wing Brat
<<As far as I know, from all the interviews I've seen of Lucas, he's not doing anymore Star Wars movies. That was it. >>

He also wasn't going to release 4, 5 and 6 on DVD.

Lucas will do whatever will make Lucas money.


Questions still left unanswered and raised by Revenge of the Sith:

How does Leah remember her mother (as stated in jedi) if her mother died right after giving birth to her?

When Luke leaves Yoda in Empire, Kenobi says "that boy is our only (last?) hope." To which Yoda replies "no, there is another."
So um, Obi kinda was there when Leah was born...did he have a memory lapse?

Finaly, now that we know the back story, is there a bigger liar in the Star Wars Universe then Obi-won? It's funny how fear, agression, passion, and anger all lead the the dark side, but lieing and stretching the truth is ok, just so long as it's true from your point of view.

Finaly, to the guy asking about the time it took to create the second death star...

There is no time frame between the movies that is clearly stated. If you look at it, the Rebels had time build a base on hoth in a snow moutain, and that was after spending who knows how long searching planets for thier next base.

Even Boba Fett went from about what 12 to 40 something between 2 and 5, so I'd say there was a pretty big gap between 4 and 5, which would be plenty of time to start a new DS.


Ok. Its Liea and Liar.

Liea, I expect only remembers her adopted mother, who dies soon after. Not Padme.

Many think that Yoda refer's to Vader/Anakin and not Leia.

Yes there is a few years between Episode 4 and 5 and a couple of months between 5 and 6.

There HAS to be a few years between 4 and 5 simply because the Empire had enough time to construct a Super Star Destroyer and the Rebels had time to re-orginize their entire base of operations from Yavin 4 to Hoth. These are all Outer Rim planets and not exactly within spitting distance to each other.

- Arkans

[Hips]

The major thing that bugged me was just that - Padme dies in childbirth, but Luke asks Leia about her mother in RotJ, his exact quote is "Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?"

Obviously she doesn't, since Padme died in childbirth. And Bail Organa's wife isn't her real mother, sooo... that was Lucas' bad, I guess?

[Left Wing Brat]

<<Many think that Yoda refer's to Vader/Anakin and not Leia.>>

Nerd sense is tingling...how is it figured to be vader the one they are talking about?

[Hips]

One last thing... I thought I had read someone on here saying that prominent rebellion leaders (one being Mon Mothma in particular) weren't in the movie... I'd like to point out that she WAS in the movie. I thought her outfit was super cool too. :D

[Sean]

When Luke leaves Yoda in Empire, Kenobi says "that boy is our only (last?) hope." To which Yoda replies "no, there is another."

It's kind of a reach but couldn't Yoda have also been referring to that if Luke fails that theres the hope that the children who Leia and Hans eventually have who could succeed? I don't really remeber that much I read a couple of the books forever ago.

[Kefka]

Yoda was referring to Leia. On Endor, Luke finally found out that Leia was his sister. Even in the final fight, Vader realized that Luke was trying to hide that he had a sister, which triggered off his anger. Leia was certainly the other he was referring to.

[Drew]

Just saw ep III for the third time tonight


Originally posted by GS3 Michiko
Obviously she doesn't, since Padme died in childbirth. And Bail Organa's wife isn't her real mother, sooo... that was Lucas' bad, I guess?


Or she just thinks she remembers her, but it's just what her parents told her about. It's a pretty well studied phenomenon but you can tell a 10 year something that happened when he/she was two years old and then ask them about it years later and they will often "remember" what was told to them as an authentic memory. I know that has actually happened to me before.


If not, then I'll just say "the force did it".

[Drew]

Originally posted by Arkans
the Star Destroyers didn't look exactly as they did back in the other movies. Still good though.

- Arkans

PS: That couldn't have been Wedge at all.




Referring back to my youth where I was a huge star wars nerd. I think those are "Victory" class star destroyers and the ones in 4,5 and 6 are "Imperial" class. The big difference being that Victory class can land on planets and Imperial class are stuck in space.


Captain Antilles is the character who Darth Vader chokes in Episode IV on Princess Leia's ship. He's not related to Wedge Antilles.




Originally posted by Drinin
Obi's age screws me up too. He looks mid-30's at the end of 3, yet he looks about 70 in 4. Guess that harsh desert sun screwed him up. Ah well it's just a movie, it doesn't have to make sense.

Ewan McGregor is 29 years younger than the age Alec Guiness was when Ep. IV was filmed, but only 19 years are supposed to pass between the two movies, so if you judge by the actor's age it's a bit off, but the difference didn't really bother me. I can see Obi-wan in IV as being in his young 60s and Obi-Wan in III as being in his young 40s.







PS: Michiko , where is Mon Motha is episode III? I must have missed her.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by GS3 Michiko
The major thing that bugged me was just that - Padme dies in childbirth, but Luke asks Leia about her mother in RotJ, his exact quote is "Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?"

Obviously she doesn't, since Padme died in childbirth. And Bail Organa's wife isn't her real mother, sooo... that was Lucas' bad, I guess?

You forget she doesn't know that she's adopted.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Tijay

When Luke leaves Yoda in Empire, Kenobi says "that boy is our only (last?) hope." To which Yoda replies "no, there is another."

It's kind of a reach but couldn't Yoda have also been referring to that if Luke fails that theres the hope that the children who Leia and Hans eventually have who could succeed? I don't really remeber that much I read a couple of the books forever ago.

Pretty much Tijay. The words have been speculated on many times. Its something thats really open for interpretation.

[CrystalTears]

Yes there is a few years between Episode 4 and 5 and a couple of months between 5 and 6.

This concerns me. It couldn't have been just a few months between 5 and 6 because that would mean that Luke became a Jedi in a few months while everyone else takes years to master? If that's the case, Lucas REALLY fucked up the continuity there. I'm thinking there had to have been years in that gap as well.

[Wezas]

Can the submitter or one of the mods please edit the title of the thread to say "Spoilers throughout" or something of that nature? :yawn:

Woah, why couldn't it have been years between 5 and 6? There was a whole new Death Star, plus a new shield system for the Death Star being built up. It doesn't make sense for it to be any less.

- Arkans

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by CrystalTears

Yes there is a few years between Episode 4 and 5 and a couple of months between 5 and 6.

This concerns me. It couldn't have been just a few months between 5 and 6 because that would mean that Luke became a Jedi in a few months while everyone else takes years to master? If that's the case, Lucas REALLY fucked up the continuity there. I'm thinking there had to have been years in that gap as well.

Its all documented in Shadows of the Empire. I think its about 9 months. And Luke only really becomes a Jedi Knight.

I don't hold any faith in the books. The books even want to go as far as telling me that the Empire didn't collapse after Return of the Jedi. Hogwash. Coruscant falls, Emperor is dead, Vader is dead, the Imperial Fleet gets railed at the battle of Endor. Riiiight Empire is still kicking.

- Arkans

[CrystalTears]

No offense, and I thank you guys for the information, but your regular Star Wars movie person shouldn't have to read a book or watch snippets on Cartoon Network to figure out that time frame between movies since it doesn't make sense. I personally can't buy that there was only 9 months between 5 and 6. 9 months is still nothing for a jedi to learn anything, if what they say is true in the other movies.

[StrayRogue]

Well the entire fleet wasn't at Endor. The emperor dies but his seat is taken up by some random female executive. The Heir to the Empire is an excellent series which discusses what happens. The emperor eventually returns and seduces Luke to the Dark Side as well.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
No offense, and I thank you guys for the information, but your regular Star Wars movie person shouldn't have to read a book or watch snippets on Cartoon Network to figure out that time frame between movies since it doesn't make sense. I personally can't buy that there was only 9 months between 5 and 6. 9 months is still nothing for a jedi to learn anything, if what they say is true in the other movies.

I won't argue with this. But then its all about how much and how deep you look into it. For all you none Star Wars geeks out there, I'd just look at it as a series of fun films and not read too much into them. Hell even the best films have mistakes.

See, this is where it just becomes ridiculous. "Random female executive"? The books are just a series made by people that didn't want Star Wars to end, even though Return of the Jedi was a perfect ending.

No, the entire Imperial fleet wasn't there, but the bulk and most powerful portions of it were. The Empire lost the Death Star, a Super Star Destroyer, God knows how many fighters, its main governing body and their capital world. Yet still, somehow, it's business as usual in the Empire.

Also, Luke turning to the Dark Side is ridiculous. If he was going to do that, it would have happened during the Battle of Endor. It's reasons like these that I just can't stand the books.

- Arkans

[StrayRogue]

Well, no the most powerful portion of the fleet wasn't at Endor. Nor was its greatest Admiral. The Empire goes into retreat for a while but comes back. It is eventually fully defeated but then replaced by the Yuuzhan Vong who invade.

Luke turns to save his friends similar as to how Anakin does. He is turned back however.

I also don't buy the whole Admiral Thrawn deal. To me it's like Nazi Germany putting a Jew in head of the Kriegsmarine.

- Arkans

[StrayRogue]

Its speculated thats why he wasn't at Endor.

Though it's said that he was with the more powerful part of the Imperial Fleet? I'd expect him to hovering over some backwater planet like.. Suluust (sp) or something like that.

- Arkans

[CrystalTears]

Well I can buy Luke turning to the dark side, even if for a little while. The fruit didn't fall far from the tree. Although it makes you wonder how dumb Obi Wan must have felt that he not only trained Anakin, who was already too young for Jedi training, that he takes on Luke as well, who is even older. Glutton for punishment, Obi Wan is. :D

I think Luke would be smarter and would learn from Vader's mistakes. Plus, I'd immediately stay away from the Dark Side since it makes you look really gross. Palpatine had terrible skin and Vader was absolutely disgusting. Stay with the Light Side and stay asthetically pleasing!

- Arkans

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by Arkans
I also don't buy the whole Admiral Thrawn deal. To me it's like Nazi Germany putting a Jew in head of the Kriegsmarine.

- Arkans

His journey to Admiral took 50 times longer to achieve because of him being alien and he was even sent out to the outer rim to map shit but in the end his tactical brilliance could not be ignored as a deadly asset. Vader was the one who took favor with him.

Thrawn is one of my favorite characters no doubt. All the books are personally sanctioned by Lucas himself and much of them are of better quality then the crap Lucas writes.

[crazymage]

Palpatine was nailed with lightning and Vader was bathed in lava..Dark side had nothing to do with looks.

[Hips]

Originally posted by StrayRogue

Originally posted by GS3 Michiko
The major thing that bugged me was just that - Padme dies in childbirth, but Luke asks Leia about her mother in RotJ, his exact quote is "Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?"

Obviously she doesn't, since Padme died in childbirth. And Bail Organa's wife isn't her real mother, sooo... that was Lucas' bad, I guess?

You forget she doesn't know that she's adopted.

Well... I would think she would realize that when Luke tells her that she's his sister, and says her REAL mother, you know? Unless she had yet another one after Bail Organa's wife.

[Hips]

Originally posted by Drew
PS: Michiko , where is Mon Motha is episode III? I must have missed her.

There's a scene with four people on Bail Oragana's ship, walking down the hall... one of them is a woman with short brown hair, and a white dress/robes similar to what Mon Mothma wears. So I'm led to believe that is meant to be her, and not just a random extra.

Not to mention that if you go to IMDB, there's a woman credited as Mon Mothma. :D

[Edited on 5-23-2005 by GS3 Michiko]

Yeah, that was most likely Mon Mothma. Why in the hell did they wait 10 years to start the Rebellion though?!

- Arkans

[Hips]

Originally posted by crazymage
Palpatine was nailed with lightning and Vader was bathed in lava..Dark side had nothing to do with looks.

Actually... if you look at the rules in the books for the tabletop SW RPG game, if your character is fully Dark Side (equal to or more Dark Side Points than their Wisdom score), each time your character levels you have to roll to see if your character deteriorates due to dealing with the Dark Side. If you fail the roll, you have to take a point out of either Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution... showing the negative effect that wielding the Dark Side has on a person. It might not start out deteriorating from your looks, but after a while, it will. It messes with their whole body.

/end nerd rant.

See, staying good looking would be the only reason I'd choose Jedi over Sith! Then again, I would love to be a Mon Calamari... IT'S A TRAP!

- Arkans

[Showal]

<<Well the entire fleet wasn't at Endor. The emperor dies but his seat is taken up by some random female executive. The Heir to the Empire is an excellent series which discusses what happens. The emperor eventually returns and seduces Luke to the Dark Side as well. >>

Doesnt the emperor make clones of himself too?

That was Mon Mothma, from what I remember she does a big speech against the emperor after the chancellor becomes the emperor, thus beginning the rebellion. It wouldn't make sense if the rebellion began in the third episode.

Luke does go to the dark side and eventually comes back. I believe from what I've read/been told, this is actually considered his "greatest feat" as a jedi and I don't believe anyone did it before. Arkans, I would think you'd believe it the most. Luke's a bad ass and he has the same name as you.

Luke goes a long way starting in episode IV (best luke line "But I wanted to go to Tashi's to get some power converters" in the whiniest voice ever) and through the books. From what I've read also, he's not considered a full Jedi (by full I mean of Windu, Obi Wan, or Yoda's status) by the end of episode VI. Don't forget also that Luke would have been killed by the emperor had vader not saved him.

<<Palpatine was nailed with lightning and Vader was bathed in lava..Dark side had nothing to do with looks.>>

Dooku was mad hot.

[Showal]

<<Actually... if you look at the rules in the books for the tabletop SW RPG game, if your character is fully Dark Side (equal to or more Dark Side Points than their Wisdom score), each time your character levels you have to roll to see if your character deteriorates due to dealing with the Dark Side. If you fail the roll, you have to take a point out of either Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution... showing the negative effect that wielding the Dark Side has on a person. It might not start out deteriorating from your looks, but after a while, it will. It messes with their whole body.>>

I didnt want to admit it ... but it says you also age quicker.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by GS3 Michiko

Originally posted by crazymage
Palpatine was nailed with lightning and Vader was bathed in lava..Dark side had nothing to do with looks.

Actually... if you look at the rules in the books for the tabletop SW RPG game, if your character is fully Dark Side (equal to or more Dark Side Points than their Wisdom score), each time your character levels you have to roll to see if your character deteriorates due to dealing with the Dark Side. If you fail the roll, you have to take a point out of either Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution... showing the negative effect that wielding the Dark Side has on a person. It might not start out deteriorating from your looks, but after a while, it will. It messes with their whole body.

/end nerd rant.

See, this makes a lot of sense. You know, it made me wonder if perhaps the Emperor was already distorted and deformed prior to his duel with Windu, and he was using his powers to keep him looking civilized. Perhaps the lightening was draining him of his facade and returned to what he was already. :shrug: You just never know with some things.

That Tashi line almost made me piss myself.

- Arkans

[Showal]

It's probably the best line in all the movies.

Man, I'd quit and just accept that the Empire was going to rule the galaxy forever if anyone told me at the time that a kid with that sort of whine was the best hope for freedom.

- Arkans

[Showal]

Yeah I'd send myself to the spice mines of Kessel.

[4a6c1]

Haha. I went to see Monster-In-Law with my girl the second night of Star Wars only I didnt realize it was the second night of Star Wars. We giggled at the long line of cute little kids sparing with lightsabers and gawked at the hot men who were dressed up like Star Wars characters. We saw them and we were all like OMG I LIKE STARWARS TOO CAN I BE UR FREND?

Anyways, I havent seen it. I'll probably wait till it comes out on HBO and then bump this thread and be like "HOLY CRAP DID U PPL KNOW HOW AWESOME THAT MOVIE WAS???!" (response: Yes you idiot, we knew 8 mnths ago....)

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by CrystalTears

Originally posted by GS3 Michiko

Originally posted by crazymage
Palpatine was nailed with lightning and Vader was bathed in lava..Dark side had nothing to do with looks.

Actually... if you look at the rules in the books for the tabletop SW RPG game, if your character is fully Dark Side (equal to or more Dark Side Points than their Wisdom score), each time your character levels you have to roll to see if your character deteriorates due to dealing with the Dark Side. If you fail the roll, you have to take a point out of either Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution... showing the negative effect that wielding the Dark Side has on a person. It might not start out deteriorating from your looks, but after a while, it will. It messes with their whole body.

/end nerd rant.

See, this makes a lot of sense. You know, it made me wonder if perhaps the Emperor was already distorted and deformed prior to his duel with Windu, and he was using his powers to keep him looking civilized. Perhaps the lightening was draining him of his facade and returned to what he was already. :shrug: You just never know with some things.

That is accurate.. in the book of the movie he looks into the mirror and says somin to the effect that he is going to miss looking at ole palpatines face when the cherade is over.

[DeV]

Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
Haha. I went to see Monster-In-Law with my girl the second night of Star Wars only I didnt realize it was the second night of Star Wars. Same here since my girl doesn't like Star Wars. Still want to see it though but I'll probably wait till it's out on DVD.

[Showal]

The question is, will you dress up in slave Leia when you get it on DVD?

I'll dress up as slave Leia.

- Arkans

[4a6c1]

:lol2:

I bet.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Xyelin

Originally posted by CrystalTears
See, this makes a lot of sense. You know, it made me wonder if perhaps the Emperor was already distorted and deformed prior to his duel with Windu, and he was using his powers to keep him looking civilized. Perhaps the lightening was draining him of his facade and returned to what he was already. :shrug: You just never know with some things.

That is accurate.. in the book of the movie he looks into the mirror and says somin to the effect that he is going to miss looking at ole palpatines face when the cherade is over.

Thank you! My fiance and I were discussing this and he brought up the idea and I had been thinking about it ever since, especially since in the scenes when the Emperor is talking to his people, he's already deformed. We felt it HAD to be a cherade. You made our day! :D

[DCSL]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Well I can buy Luke turning to the dark side, even if for a little while. The fruit didn't fall far from the tree. Although it makes you wonder how dumb Obi Wan must have felt that he not only trained Anakin, who was already too young for Jedi training, that he takes on Luke as well, who is even older. Glutton for punishment, Obi Wan is. :D


I didn't know Luke turned to the Dark Side, even for a little while. I know that Leia did, though. I believe she saw her son killed and she flipped out and killed everyone, throwing Force lightning here and there. Something like that. Skywalker genes.

Jesus, if that is true then that is super beef wellington.

- Arkans

[Sean of the Thread]

I never knew about leia pulling that shit. What book?

stfu nerds

[Chadj]

Question: Yoda mentions that Obi's old master found a way to speak with the dead.. does that have something to do with anything, other than later when Obi talks to Luke and Yoda when he's dead?

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by GS3 Michiko

Well... I would think she would realize that when Luke tells her that she's his sister, and says her REAL mother, you know? Unless she had yet another one after Bail Organa's wife.

He tells her he's his sister AFTER he asks about her mother.

[Divinity]

Just saw it last night. It was a badass movie, except that Anakin (sp?) couldn't portray emotions other than calm. Which is fine since he was suppost to be a Jedi, but good lord..

Where was the anger and rage we were promised?

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by Divinity
Just saw it last night. It was a badass movie, except that Anakin (sp?) couldn't portray emotions other than calm. Which is fine since he was suppost to be a Jedi, but good lord..

Where was the anger and rage we were promised?

Choking his preggers wife is one example??

[Left Wing Brat]

<<Question: Yoda mentions that Obi's old master found a way to speak with the dead.. does that have something to do with anything, other than later when Obi talks to Luke and Yoda when he's dead?>>

From what I gather, this is try and explaine why Qui-gon didn't dissapear after his death in Episode I, where as Yoda and Obi-won do dissapear after they die in 4 and 5. To me it felt kinda like Lucas kept tabs on message boards and realized that so many people were wondering why Qui-gon didn't fade into nothingness that he kinda dded that tag line at the end of the movie.

<<No, the entire Imperial fleet wasn't there, but the bulk and most powerful portions of it were. The Empire lost the Death Star, a Super Star Destroyer, God knows how many fighters, its main governing body and their capital world. Yet still, somehow, it's business as usual in the Empire. >>

The imperial fleet was HUGE. Ever play the TIE fighter video game? Only 3 or so of the 10 levels deal with the rebels, you're allways off on other words taking care of pirates and other internal affairs. There is more then one Super Star Destroyer in the fleet, and Coursicaunt(sp) didn't fall yet, althought now with the new endings you see people cheering in the streets. In the books, Coursicaunt doesn't fall for many years after Jedi. I belive in the Rouge Squadron Series, based something like 7 - 10 years after Jedi. And the Heir to the Throne isn't some random iintern, while her name escapes me right now, she was rumorded to be the Emperor's lover, which by default makes her evil I suppose.

I'll believe the movies that say the Rebels capture Coruscant at around the time of the destruction of the Death Star over some book.

- Arkans

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[Kefka]

Nah. That's impossible. The Battle of Endor was to lure the whole rebel alliance to it's complete destruction. There were no multiple operations going on. Ysanne Isard, the director of Imperial Intelligence had control of Coruscant and it was very much under Imperial Control.

[Left Wing Brat]

The Empire Strikes Back: Extra-Special Edition

INT: BESPIN GANTRY - MOMENTS LATER:

A furious lightsaber duel is underway. DARTH VADER is backing
LUKE SKYWALKER towards the end of the gantry. A quick move by
Vader, chops off Luke's hand! It goes spinning off into the
ventilation shaft. Luke backs away. He looks around, but
realizes there's nowhere to go but straight down.

Darth Vader: Obi Wan never told you what happened to your
father.

Luke: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!

Darth Vader: No... I am your father!

Luke: No, it's not true! It's impossible.

Darth Vader: Search your feelings... you know it to be true.

Luke: NO!

Darth Vader: Yes, it is true, and you know what else? You
know that brass droid of yours?

Luke: Threepio?

Darth Vader: Yes... Threepio... I built him... when I was
7 years old...

Luke: No...!

Darth Vader: Seven years old! And what have you done? Look at
yourself, no hand, no job, and couldn't even levitate your
own ship out of the swamp.

Luke: I destroyed your precious Death Star!

Darth Vader: When you were 20! When I was 10, I single-
handedly destroyed a Trade Federation Droid Control ship!

Luke: Well, it's not my fault...

Darth Vader: Oh, here we go... "Poor me... my father never
gave me what I wanted for my birthday... boo hoo, my daddy's
the Dark Lord of the Sith...waahhh wahhh!"

Luke: Shut up...

Darth Vader: You're a slacker! By the time I was your age, I
had exterminated the Jedi knights!

Luke: I used to race my T-16 through Beggar's Canyon.

Darth Vader: Oh, for the love of the Emperor... 10 years old,
winner of the Boonta Eve Open... Only human to ever fly a Pod
Racer... right here, baby!

{Luke looks down the shaft. Takes a step towards it.}

Darth Vader: I was wrong... You're not my kid... I don't know
whose son you are, but you sure ain't mine...

{Luke takes a step off the platform, hesitates, then plunges
down the shaft.}

{Darth Vader looks after him.}

Darth Vader: Get a haircut!

[CrystalTears]

:lol2: Good stuff.

[Left Wing Brat]

<<There were no multiple operations going on.>>

Sure there were...

The aliance intercepts a message for the emperor the very next day that came from an imperial commander in another sector, the commander didn't even know the rebels had won, or that there had even been the battle yet.

[Kefka]

Yeah. That whole Threepio bit was utter crap.

The movie disagrees that there we no other Rebel operations going on. In Return of the Jedi, there is a victory celebration on Coruscant.

- Arkans

[StrayRogue]

They weren't rebels. Just oppressed denziens.

[Left Wing Brat]

<<The movie disagrees that there we no other Rebel operations going on.>>

I'm not talking about the rebels, I'm talking about the imperials

There had to be a rebel influence. Those denizens would have gotten pwned so hard by Storm Troopers that they wouldn't even think of cheering and lighting fireworks. I'm sure the Rebel Alliance operates in a terrorist-cell like fashion and the second they got word of victory it was definately time to be like, "PWNED CORUSCANT!!! ALLAHU TEH FORCE!"

- Arkans

[StrayRogue]

I believe it had more to do with the Empire being a tyrannical dictatorship than any rebel influence. But thats me.

That's up for debate, but there had to be a huge ground force in Coruscant, something that regular citizens without Rebel leadership couldn't overthrow.

- Arkans

[Drinin]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
[quote]Yes there is a few years between Episode 4 and 5 and a couple of months between 5 and 6.


This concerns me. It couldn't have been just a few months between 5 and 6 because that would mean that Luke became a Jedi in a few months while everyone else takes years to master? If that's the case, Lucas REALLY fucked up the continuity there. I'm thinking there had to have been years in that gap as well.

Someone told me that they read a book called Shadow of the Empire or something like that. It basically told the story between 5 and 6. In any event he told me that the timeline was like 6 or 9 months or something. This was like 5 years ago so I didn't think much of it.

And about the time it took Luke to become a jedi . . . that bothered me as well. Basically I came to the conclusion that Luke wasn't trained to do all that crazy shit with the force that the jedi in 1-2-3 could do, it was more like a few months of force training with a lot of 'moral' training, if you will. In my opinion, Vader's powers diminished as time went on so Luke was not required to be super good with jumping around like a monkey. Nothing here to back that up, just me trying to rationalize why Luke and Vader weren't doing crazy flips and throwing shit around.

[Edited on 5-23-2005 by Drinin]

Crazy flips and all that shit would have looked ridiculously stupid with 1970's special effects.

- Arkans

[Edaarin]

<--- has never seen a Star Wars movie

[The Korean]

Do not judge all asians by the above

I am now collecting funds for the Strap Edaarin to a Chair and Force Him to Watch Both Trilogies Charity.

[kheldarin]

I just finished watching the special edition of 4, 5, and 6. Holy shit, the ending of episode 6 gave me shivers when it showed the ghosts of Obi-Wan, Yoda, then all of a sudden, Anakin (as portrayed by Christensen). I dunno, after watching ep.3, that part gave me the chills.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by kheldarin
I just finished watching the special edition of 4, 5, and 6. Holy shit, the ending of episode 6 gave me shivers when it showed the ghosts of Obi-Wan, Yoda, then all of a sudden, Anakin (as portrayed by Christensen). I dunno, after watching ep.3, that part gave me the chills.

Special Addition??

[Miss X]

Originally posted by Edaarin
<--- has never seen a Star Wars movie

Woohoo! I'm not the only one! :heart:

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by kheldarin
I just finished watching the special edition of 4, 5, and 6. Holy shit, the ending of episode 6 gave me shivers when it showed the ghosts of Obi-Wan, Yoda, then all of a sudden, Anakin (as portrayed by Christensen). I dunno, after watching ep.3, that part gave me the chills.

Yeah. They also changed Boba Fetts voice so that it is the clone trooper/Jango voice as well.

[SnatchWrangler]

My buddies have been tossing around questions, spoilers, and issues they had with Episode 3 and via email...

Figured I'd share a few of their thoughts since they crack me the fuck up:

> 2. Why can R2-D2 fly in EP III, but not in the later episodes?

-Rebel cost control measures, they weren't nearly as financial stable as the empire, and a flying droid is pretty expensive.

--one more thing...did you notice that the death star
was like 20% complete just weeks after the empire
takes over..but 20 years later in a new hope its still
not complete...they must have hired irish laborers to
build it. (this was a comment directed towards a friend that's irish/english)

His reply: I am thinking they made the mistake of paying some questionable italian contractors up front, and they couldn't get them to come back after they spent all their money on space cannoli's, space iroc-z's, and space whores with big space hair.

Rebel cost cutting measures and space cannoli's...good times.

[Edited on 5-24-2005 by peam]

[Trouble]

Sorta off-topic, but does anyone know of a site that lets you search theaters for a movie with specific sound/seating?

I'm trying to find a place that is showing Episode III that has both stadium seating and Dolby sound within whatever range of a zip code.

Fandango and Moviephone don't seem to help. THX.com is a little too specific, as you have to know which exact theater in the cinema is showing the movie you want to see.

People have seen this movie not in surround sound and in stadium seating? Sheeeit!

- Arkans

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Arkans
People have seen this movie not in surround sound and in stadium seating? Sheeeit!

- Arkans

I was going to say.. I haven't seen a movie without those two things in the past 3 or 4 years.

Me too. I thought that was standard in all movie theaters. It is around here at least.

- Arkans

[Drew2]

Rofl. Where you're from, a "theater" must be someone who lets people come watch movies on his 32" TV!!

Where the hell DON'T they have stadium seating and Dolby within like 5 miles of any given place (worth living)?

[Hips]

[Sean of the Thread]

http://vadercoaster.ytmnd.com/ HAHHA

[Hips]

http://silentfilmstarwars.ytmnd.com/

[Apotheosis]

ROFL @ the comic, now that I've actually seen the movie.

Umm, and the movie blew pretty hard.. even worse then League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.