Not sure what to do next

[kutter]

So my rogue is mostly, well, almost entirely a picker, but I would like to get back to hunting some, but I am not certain where to go next, I assume it is MoC, but since I play a bunch of alts, maybe someone that is more rogue focused can clue me in some. Here is where he is at right now:



Skill Mnemonic Ranks Type Category Subcategory
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Cheapshots cheapshots 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Combat Focus focus 5/5 Passive
Combat Mobility mobility 1/1 Passive
Cunning Defense cdefense 5/5 Passive
Divert divert 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Eyepoke eyepoke 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Footstomp footstomp 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Kneebash kneebash 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Nosetweak nosetweak 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Parry Specialization parryspec 3/3 Passive
Predator's Eye predator 3/3 Martial Stance
Stun Maneuvers stunman 6/6 Buff Rogue Guild
Subdue subdue 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Sweep sweep 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Swiftkick swiftkick 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Templeshot templeshot 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Throatchop throatchop 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
True Strike truestrike 5/5 Attack
Weapon Specializatio wspec 5/5 Passive

Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 40
>skil
(at level 100), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Two Weapon Combat..................| 302 202
Armor Use..........................| 185 85
Combat Maneuvers...................| 302 202
Edged Weapons......................| 302 202
Ambush.............................| 302 202
Physical Fitness...................| 302 202
Dodging............................| 302 202
Arcane Symbols.....................| 90 20
Magic Item Use.....................| 90 20
Harness Power......................| 35 7
Disarming Traps....................| 403 303
Picking Locks......................| 403 303
Stalking and Hiding................| 403 303
Perception.........................| 403 303
Climbing...........................| 151 51
Swimming...........................| 150 50

Training Points: 0 Phy 140 Mnt (282 Mnt converted to Phy)

I just finished stalk and hide and perception, I suppose I could work on climb and swim for redux, not really focused on spells, I got rid of the few that I had. Should more Arcane and MIU for spell burst? Just kind of at a loss as where to go next. He is in padded brig, so I know I have too much armor, it is left over from when he wore breastplate and I just have not undone it yet and not sure I will since I am not yet sold on LAM and brig. Any thoughts are appreciated.

[drumpel]

So my rogue is mostly, well, almost entirely a picker, but I would like to get back to hunting some, but I am not certain where to go next, I assume it is MoC, but since I play a bunch of alts, maybe someone that is more rogue focused can clue me in some. Here is where he is at right now:



Skill Mnemonic Ranks Type Category Subcategory
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheapshots cheapshots 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Combat Focus focus 5/5 Passive
Combat Mobility mobility 1/1 Passive
Cunning Defense cdefense 5/5 Passive
Divert divert 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Eyepoke eyepoke 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Footstomp footstomp 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Kneebash kneebash 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Nosetweak nosetweak 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Parry Specialization parryspec 3/3 Passive
Predator's Eye predator 3/3 Martial Stance
Stun Maneuvers stunman 6/6 Buff Rogue Guild
Subdue subdue 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Sweep sweep 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Swiftkick swiftkick 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Templeshot templeshot 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
Throatchop throatchop 6/6 Setup Rogue Guild
True Strike truestrike 5/5 Attack
Weapon Specializatio wspec 5/5 Passive

Available Combat Maneuvers Points: 40
>skil
(at level 100), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Two Weapon Combat..................| 302 202
Armor Use..........................| 185 85
Combat Maneuvers...................| 302 202
Edged Weapons......................| 302 202
Ambush.............................| 302 202
Physical Fitness...................| 302 202
Dodging............................| 302 202
Arcane Symbols.....................| 90 20
Magic Item Use.....................| 90 20
Harness Power......................| 35 7
Disarming Traps....................| 403 303
Picking Locks......................| 403 303
Stalking and Hiding................| 403 303
Perception.........................| 403 303
Climbing...........................| 151 51
Swimming...........................| 150 50

Training Points: 0 Phy 140 Mnt (282 Mnt converted to Phy)

I just finished stalk and hide and perception, I suppose I could work on climb and swim for redux, not really focused on spells, I got rid of the few that I had. Should more Arcane and MIU for spell burst? Just kind of at a loss as where to go next. He is in padded brig, so I know I have too much armor, it is left over from when he wore breastplate and I just have not undone it yet and not sure I will since I am not yet sold on LAM and brig. Any thoughts are appreciated.

I don't know what you should do next, but climb/swim are not part of redux:

Primary Skill: 50 points per rank
Physical Fitness

Secondary Skills: 20 points per rank
Ambush
Armor Use
Combat Maneuvers
Dodging
Multi Opponent Combat
Shield Use
Two Weapon Combat

Tertiary Skills: 15 points per rank
One-Handed Edged Weapon Training
One-Handed Blunt Weapon Training
Brawling Weapon Training
Polearm Weapon Training
Ranged Weapon Training
Thrown Weapon Training
Two-Handed Weapon Training


If you have nothing better to put points into and you want to build redux, keep your armor ranks. No sense in reducing it, it'll just drop your redux down some.

[kutter]

Drumpel I stand corrected, I thought for sure they were. Now I am really at a loss. I guess MOC might make the most sense to work on next then since I do not use a shield and if I get a bug up my butt to switch him from CoL to GoS then he might actually live some through warcamps and I could work on some arcane symbols and MIU at the same time for spell burst.

[drumpel]

If you're not sure what direction you want to go, maybe jump into the test server with your rogue and see how he fairs in some of the capped hunting grounds. That might help you decide on what way(s) you may want to go if your current setup isn't working to your liking.

That's what I did with my reduxmage (if I ever do get him capped). I had him do a couple of hunting grounds in the test server at capped level (he brings in a whopping 25% redux capped!) while wearing chainmail and he did better than I thought he would. It's good to know he should be viable enough for me to hunt with him should I ever get him capped - he's currently level 63 so I've got a long ways to go with him still.

[kutter]

I understand the woes of a melee mage, my UAC mage is capped now, but it was a grind. I mostly hunt him with my capped pure mage in Nelemar, they both do pretty well there, except for the odd void by a sentry when they cast real fast.

The test server might be a good idea, I had not thought of that, normally I just burn a bunch of deeds figuring it out.

[Nordred]

Little late to comment, but go for 3x in dodging and a little counter intuitive, drop cunning defense. Cunning defense only really offers benefit if you have very few or not dodging ranks at all. I think a fully tripled rogue in dodging might get +2 or +3 to SMR benefit out of rank 5 cunning defense. More dodging ranks will just make you avoid things easier and have a higher defense, which that effect is greater from light armor proficiency and scale proficiency(or should say the end result is better because you've a higher overall number its adding their bonus percents to).

[Mobius1]

I agree, 3x dodging is the way to go next. In fact, I'd have gotten it earlier than you did! That's quite a bit of extra DS, among other things.

I'd also get evade spec over parry, and I'd recommend you squeeze a few MoC ranks in there for FoF; 10 minimum, preferably like 25 ranks.

[kutter]

I agree, 3x dodging is the way to go next. In fact, I'd have gotten it earlier than you did! That's quite a bit of extra DS, among other things.

I'd also get evade spec over parry, and I'd recommend you squeeze a few MoC ranks in there for FoF; 10 minimum, preferably like 25 ranks.

I decided to max out dodge as well, it is a slow grind but I am 55 ranks away from maxing it out. After that, probably start adding MoC since he is set up for whirling dervish.

[Mobius1]

I'm sure you're already noticing the benefits!

Simple +DS is one of the best things you can get to make life easier all around (Thus why MoC also helps so much!).