More Animal Cruelty

[Atlanteax]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/19/ncruel19.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/05/19/ixhome.html

Woman kept 246 dogs, 16 cage birds and 7 cats in her home
By Nigel Bunyan
(Filed: 19/05/2005)

An obsessive collector of animals kept a menagerie of 246 dogs, 16 birds and seven cats in her four-bedroom house, a court heard yesterday.

Rosalind Gregson, 55, confined most of her pets to cages, often in pairs and often piled on top of each other in conditions so cramped they could not stand to their full height.

RSPCA officers found dogs in cages piled on top of each other
Many of the dogs were flea-ridden, emaciated and stricken with eye infections. Others had ulcers. Nine were in such a poor state that RSPCA officers had to put them down.

A district judge at Preston magistrates' court heard that when the RSPCA team raided Gregson's £500,000 detached house at Silverdale, near Carnforth, Lancs, they were initially "overwhelmed" by the stench of ammonia and faeces. They found the animals living in virtually unlit, rat-infested rooms with little water and food. Most of the water they did have was contaminated with cat litter.

District judge Peter Ward was shown an RSPCA video which showed officers viewing the "dismal and depressing conditions". The camera pans from cage to cage, showing dogs barely able to sit up. One RSPCA officer is heard to say: "How can they live in this? This is appalling."

Some of the dogs are lifted out of their cages and held up in view of the camera. One, a Maltese terrier, is shown with her fur matted with what appears to be excrement. An officer says: "She's in a terrible state."

Another, a Shih-tzu, has matted fur and appears emaciated. Its weakness and reluctance to stand is attributed by a vet to the muscle wasting in its hind legs. The animal was later put down.

An emaciated Yorkshire terrier had a discharge coming from both eyes. Few of its teeth remained, its nails were overgrown and it had a severe skin infection. It, too, had to be put down. Tim Bergin, prosecuting, said: "It is not the prosecution case that she maliciously caused cruelty to the animals in her home; simply that she allowed her obsession to collect animals to overwhelm her.

"She lost complete control to properly care for the animals in her charge. The net result was that the animals were living and surviving in what can only be described as dismal and depressing conditions where their needs were simply not met." He said the animals' poor health was solely the result of Gregson's "obsessional behaviour in collecting a large number of animals".

RSPCA officers, who raided Well Bank Cottage with environmental health officers from Lancashire county council, had never seen such a large number of animals in a single house.

"Not in their wildest dreams did they expect to be confronted with what they saw," said Mr Bergin.

Gregson denies 49 counts of causing unnecessary suffering to an animal in September 2003.

The trial is expected to last 12 days.

[ElanthianSiren]

How can you claim to love animals and subject them to conditions like that? -Crazy. Some people are f'in nuts.

-Melissa
who would have a whole SPCA if she had the funds, but until she has those means, will keep it to her small 4-pet menagerie.

[The Korean]

That made me sad now....

[Apotheosis]

I'm surprised the birds didn't blowtorch her for that shiat.

[Burnt out Priestess]

That just saddens me,i like ElanthianSiren would own a animal shelter if i can afford it,but you have to know your limits and honestly this woman shouldn't have let her love for animals get this bad cause the conditions they found the animals in was not love in my eyes.

- Patti

[Jorddyn]

I'm going to go home and hug my cat. This makes me ill.

Jorddyn, :heart: animals

[4a6c1]

For some people, owning live things makes them feel needed.

That just made me really sick to read it though. :-/

[Doyle Hargraves]

If only my dogs could read, they'd know how spoiled they are.

[HarmNone]

Animal hording is the latest term for this type of behavior. There's an interesting site about this phenomenon here:

http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/99/1/hoarders.html

[4a6c1]

w................t....................f

Animals cant even talk. Cant even defend themselves or say no. I dont get it. :?:

[Sean of the Thread]

:deadhorse:

[Apotheosis]

Xyelin, that is exactly what the point of animal hoarding is.

now I want a "smilie" of a chicken blowtorching a human.

[Edited on 5-19-2005 by Yswithe]

If I'm ever not too psychotic that I can get another dog, it's going to be straight from the shelter, homie.

[Skirmisher]

That was a very ill woman.

[Brattt8525]

People like this should be put in a tiny cage and made to live in their own feces and pee.

[Edited on 5-19-2005 by Brattt8525]

[Sean of the Thread]

Originally posted by Yswithe
Xyelin, that is exactly what the point of animal hoarding is.

now I want a "smilie" of a chicken blowtorching a human.

[Edited on 5-19-2005 by Yswithe]

Oh sorry I didn't realize that. I just was saying that another animal cruelty thread would be beating a dead horse.. OH...

[Kyra]

People are sick....I think it's why I like animals better than 99% of the human population.

http://mysite.verizon.net/resoj0ns/neebs2.html

K. & flock.

sad...

[Apotheosis]

Originally posted by Kyra
People are sick....I think it's why I like animals better than 99% of the human population.
K. & flock.

yeah, humans will piss on you and break your spirit. animals will just piss on you.

While sad, I don't support jail time for people like this. I do support massive fines though that would go to animal rescue and animal health care. If the fines could not be paid off, then jail time should be considered.

- Arkans

[Parker]

Alright, explain something to me..you all are very angry because this person abused a batch of animals. I agree, I'm upset by it as well....Why did I get flamed when I said that the woman who abused a FELLOW HUMAN BEING deserved more than 6 months in jail?!?! Seems to be a bit strange. It sorta makes me sad that there are times when people value animal life over human life.

[Edited on 5-20-2005 by Parker]

[Kyra]

Originally posted by Parker
It sorta makes me sad that there are times when people value animal life over human life.

[Edited on 5-20-2005 by Parker]

Most of the human population sucks ass & deserve what they get. <shrug> They are also raising a generation of little ass suckers to follow in their footsteps.

I have no idea what particular post you are referring to though, that's just my own personal opinion.

K.

Most people tend to have a knee jerk response when it comes to animals as they are an emotional subject. They are too me too. I love my two boxers and would do and still do anything in my power to insure their health and well being. I even went as far as to spend thousands of dollars on Rex's (my older male) for medicine, tests, and proceedures down on his weakening spine.

Taking this into consideration, I understand that animals are property. Their damage and destruction should be treated much as destruction of property should be treated. I would fully support fines payed to animal services, damages paid to owners, as well as mental anguish.

- Arkans

[Parker]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/viewthread.php?tid=14725

This is a thread concerning an american soldier who abused an afghani prisoner, if I'm correct.

I got flamed for my opinions here, and I'm not sure why nobody's getting flamed for calling this woman "Sick".

I mean...


posted on 5-19-2005 at 09:24 PM
People like this should be put in a tiny cage and made to live in their own feces and pee.

[Edited on 5-19-2005 by Brattt8525]



This is just obscene. I get flamed for putting a higher value on a HUMAN'S life, than an animal's. You guys go even farther than I did, and now I'm annoyed.

If this is true, why wasn't the soldier beaten senseless, and then made a mockery of?
:flamed:

[Edited on 5-20-2005 by Parker]

[Latrinsorm]

Animals are by definition innocent. Humans aren't necessarily. Not that I'm saying the dudes deserved to get abused.

[ElanthianSiren]

Originally posted by Parker
Alright, explain something to me..you all are very angry because this person abused a batch of animals. I agree, I'm upset by it as well....Why did I get flamed when I said that the woman who abused a FELLOW HUMAN BEING deserved more than 6 months in jail?!?! Seems to be a bit strange. It sorta makes me sad that there are times when people value animal life over human life.

[Edited on 5-20-2005 by Parker]

I don't value human life much at all. I also have the added benefit of being turned out of my sitters house in the dead of winter through the ages of 5-9 by her rather-sadistic, oldest daughter and honestly thinking that I was going to freeze to death before being piled on in an old barn by cats.

Now, would I have frozen to death? -Probably not, but I didn't see any of the humans there helping me. IMO it's a respect issue -- an animal is just that. It is truthful.

-Melissa

edited cuz I put survival issue instead of truth -- losing it this morning.

[Edited on Sat, May st, 2005 by ElanthianSiren]

[Drew]

Originally posted by Brattt8525
People like this should be put in a tiny cage and made to live in their own feces and pee.



Holy crap, this kind of talk REALLY scares me. Animals are property, if you love your animals and treat them very well I'm happy for you. But you can do whatever you want with them. I wouldn't put you in a cage because you let the house you own get run-down and in bad condition, nor would I put you in a cage because you let some animal you own get in poor shape.



It's a natural right for people to own property and do with it as they wish as long as that property doesn't harm another person.

[Asha]

Human beings are the bane of this world. Without us the planet would be much healthier.
We do have some saving qualities , mind.
Sadly not enough of us display them.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Drayal
Human beings are the bane of this world. Without us the planet would be much healthier.
We do have some saving qualities , mind.
Sadly not enough of us display them.


Luckily there are at least ten million, billion planets in the universe so you know, humanity can pillage 10,000,000,000,000,000 planets before we've RUINED EVERYTHING.

[Asha]

But Mother Earth, man.
Think of the old girl.

[Edited on 5-21-2005 by Drayal]

[Drew]

Yes, well, my view isn't nearly as grim as yours.


Without humans this planet would be just another hunk of rock.

[Asha]

Teaming with life.

:socool:

[Kyra]

Originally posted by Drew

Holy crap, this kind of talk REALLY scares me. Animals are property, if you love your animals and treat them very well I'm happy for you. But you can do whatever you want with them. I wouldn't put you in a cage because you let the house you own get run-down and in bad condition, nor would I put you in a cage because you let some animal you own get in poor shape.



It's a natural right for people to own property and do with it as they wish as long as that property doesn't harm another person.

Here in the US you can't do "whatever" you want with animals(abusing them that is), that is why there are animal cruelty laws in place. :rolleyes:

K.

[Edited on 5-21-2005 by Kyra]

[Brattt8525]

Animals are innocent and totally dependent on those who have them. I think if the person thinks its ok to let them lay in their own feces then that should be good enough for them to lay in as well. I have more apathy for an innocent animal then I do for asshole humans who abuse them. Call how I feel scarey or that my opinion is obscene to wish them the same quality of life they gave those poor dogs, whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Latrinsorm]

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, Brat. :)

Drayal, saying the planet would be better off without us doesn't make sense to me. Why do you believe that a world devoid of industrial pollution and technology is better?

[Warriorbird]

Not my point of view, but why do you think it isn't? Human-centric argument.

[Asha]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, Brat. :)

Drayal, saying the planet would be better off without us doesn't make sense to me. Why do you believe that a world devoid of industrial pollution and technology is better?

You're right, I must be fucking nuts!

[Warriorbird]

I saw the Puff Daddy's Vote or Die entourage vs PETA South Park episode recently. It made me happy.

[Asha]

who won?

[Warriorbird]

Puff Daddy's entourage. They had guns.

:)

:hates on PETA:

[Shari]

This is exactly the reason why I donate to animal shelters and very rarely to causes benefiting humans. Animals don't have a voice. Furthermore, it makes me sad that some people consider pets or animals in general "property" they are living creatures that are dependent apon us if we are in care of them. To say people have a right to do what they want with their animals is just disgusting in my opinion.

[Kyra]

Originally posted by Jesae
This is exactly the reason why I donate to animal shelters and very rarely to causes benefiting humans. Animals don't have a voice. Furthermore, it makes me sad that some people consider pets or animals in general "property" they are living creatures that are dependent apon us if we are in care of them. To say people have a right to do what they want with their animals is just disgusting in my opinion.

"To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being.
I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man"
- Mahatma Gandhi

I love this quote, it sums up what I think some people were trying to get across here. Life is life & it's pretty damn hard for alot of people to just say "Oh this one isn't worth as much as that one because of <insert inane reason here>."

K.