Nuclear fusion

[Solkern]

I’m extremely excited about the doors this can open!

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/nuclear-fusion-reaction-us-announcement-12-13-22/index.html


An infinite sustainable energy source with no byproduct.

[Suppressed Poet]

Indeed it is an exciting breakthrough.

[Seran]

First ever net return on energy, which is an amazing breakthrough. Can't wait to see to more details. Even if large scale commercial applications are years away, it's a vital milestone for the scientific community.

[Gelston]

Time to ban gas cars.

[Parkbandit]

Time to ban gas cars.

Already on track to.

Time now to ban electric cars.. starting with any car brand starting with TES... for the "environment"...

[Solkern]

Already on track to.

Time now to ban electric cars.. starting with any car brand starting with TES... for the "environment"...

The funny thing is that most people don’t realize or know, electric cars aren’t much better for the environment than gas cars.

[Parkbandit]

The funny thing is that most people don’t realize or know, electric cars aren’t much better for the environment than gas cars.

That's because most "environmentalists" aren't interested in facts or the actual environment and use the "environment" to push their own political agenda.

[Gelston]

The funny thing is that most people don’t realize or know, electric cars aren’t much better for the environment than gas cars.

I don't give a flying fuck about the environment.

[Methais]

The funny thing is that most people don’t realize or know, electric cars aren’t much better for the environment than gas cars.

Most people with basic thinking skills realize it. Brain dead tards like Seran, not so much.

[Seran]

The funny thing is that most people don’t realize or know, electric cars aren’t much better for the environment than gas cars.

Based solely on what precisely?

Carbon creation during manufacturing? Completely offset by their having zero emissions.

Carbon production to produce energy? Our country is rapidly transitioning to renewables whose long term carbon footprint is miniscule compared to what it was 25-50+ years ago. If you're cherry picking how well an EV vehicle does in a county that relies solely on a 75 year old coal power plant, or a first generation natural gas plant, then yes electricity production creates CO2. But shocker! Creating gasoline and diesel also uses electricity, adding to the emissions in a combustion engine.


To illustrate how EVs create fewer emissions than their counterparts, Paltsev points to MIT’s Insights Into Future Mobility study from 2019.4 This study looked at comparable vehicles like the Toyota Camry and Honda Clarity across their gasoline, hybrid, plug-in hybrid, battery electric, and hydrogen fuel cell configurations. The researchers found that, on average, gasoline cars emit more than 350 grams of CO2 per mile driven over their lifetimes. The hybrid and plug-in hybrid versions, meanwhile, scored at around 260 grams per mile of carbon dioxide, while the fully battery-electric vehicle created just 200 grams. Stats from the U.S. Department of Energy tell a similar story: Using the nationwide average of different energy sources, DOE found that EVs create 3,932 lbs. of CO2 equivalent per year, compared to 5,772 lbs. for plug-in hybrids, 6,258 lbs. for typical hybrids, and 11,435 lbs. for gasoline vehicles.5

MIT’s report shows how much these stats can swing based on a few key factors. For example, when the researchers used the average carbon intensity of America’s power grid, they found that a fully electric vehicle emits about 25 percent less carbon than a comparable hybrid car. But if they ran the numbers assuming the EV would charge up in hydropower-heavy Washington State, they found it would emit 61 percent less carbon than the hybrid. When they did the math for coal-heavy West Virginia, the EV actually created more carbon emissions than the hybrid, but still less than the gasoline car.

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars

[Suppressed Poet]

Based solely on what precisely?

Carbon creation during manufacturing? Completely offset by their having zero emissions.

Carbon production to produce energy? Our country is rapidly transitioning to renewables whose long term carbon footprint is miniscule compared to what it was 25-50+ years ago. If you're cherry picking how well an EV vehicle does in a county that relies solely on a 75 year old coal power plant, or a first generation natural gas plant, then yes electricity production creates CO2. But shocker! Creating gasoline and diesel also uses electricity, adding to the emissions in a combustion engine.



https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars

You obviously don’t understand how EV batteries are made, what it takes to keep those batteries charged, nor have you thought about what to do with those batteries when they go bad. You are a moron if you think renewables like wind, solar, and water is a viable total replacement energy source for fossil fuels. Oh wait…yes you are a idiot.

[Methais]

The funny thing is that most people don’t realize or know, electric cars aren’t much better for the environment than gas cars.




Most people with basic thinking skills realize it. Brain dead tards like Seran, not so much.




Based solely on what precisely?

Carbon creation during manufacturing? Completely offset by their having zero emissions.

Carbon production to produce energy? Our country is rapidly transitioning to renewables whose long term carbon footprint is miniscule compared to what it was 25-50+ years ago. If you're cherry picking how well an EV vehicle does in a county that relies solely on a 75 year old coal power plant, or a first generation natural gas plant, then yes electricity production creates CO2. But shocker! Creating gasoline and diesel also uses electricity, adding to the emissions in a combustion engine.



https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars

https://media.tenor.com/4opamcAljRQAAAAd/laugh-smile.gif

[Gelston]

You obviously don’t understand how EV batteries are made, what it takes to keep those batteries charged, nor have you thought about what to do with those batteries when they go bad. You are a moron if you think renewables like wind, solar, and water is a viable total replacement energy source for fossil fuels. Oh wait…yes you are a idiot.

It doesn't take a lot to keep EV batteries charged, so I wouldn't try to go from that angle.

Your microwave probably puts a bigger dent into pollution than charging a EV battery.

[Seran]

You obviously don’t understand how EV batteries are made, what it takes to keep those batteries charged, nor have you thought about what to do with those batteries when they go bad. You are a moron if you think renewables like wind, solar, and water is a viable total replacement energy source for fossil fuels. Oh wait…yes you are a idiot.

It's pretty obvious it's you that don't have any clue, but thanks for the low effort post with zero citations. Your credibility may one day approach zero on the topic of EVs and renewables.

[Methais]

It doesn't take a lot to keep EV batteries charged, so I wouldn't try to go from that angle.

Your microwave probably puts a bigger dent into pollution than charging a EV battery.

That's why I only use gasoline powered microwaves.



Your credibility may one day approach zero on the topic of EVs and renewables.

So you're saying that his credibility is higher than 0. Which still means he has more credibility than you.

[Gelston]

That's why I only use gasoline powered microwaves.

EV charging takes a lot less power than people think. If everyone switched to EVs right now, would that fuck up the grid? Sure. That'd be just like everyone going out and plugging in a brand new appliance, consumption will rise.

All I know, is that I've operated my vehicle for the past 6 months at a cost of about $120 driving daily.

[Suppressed Poet]

EV charging takes a lot less power than people think. If everyone switched to EVs right now, would that fuck up the grid? Sure. That'd be just like everyone going out and plugging in a brand new appliance, consumption will rise.

All I know, is that I've operated my vehicle for the past 6 months at a cost of about $120 driving daily.

That is impressively efficient and a lot less than my 5.0 4x4 F150.

Rarely but sometimes, I forget to charge my phone at night or set my alarm clock. I worry about that with EVs.

[Neveragain]

I think charging stations are just a temporary fixture in EV. Once cars are getting 500 MPC, I would imagine battery exchanges will be the thing..

[Gelston]

I think charging stations are just a temporary fixture in EV. Once cars are getting 500 MPC, I would imagine battery exchanges will be the thing..

Why? Charging times are going down. By the time everyone is using EVs, charge times will probably be faster than filling up 20 gallons of gas.

[Gelston]

That is impressively efficient and a lot less than my 5.0 4x4 F150.

Rarely but sometimes, I forget to charge my phone at night or set my alarm clock. I worry about that with EVs.

I have to walk by the charger to get into the house so it always reminds me. They have newer ones coming out that also have solar panels... They charge very slow and suffer from the same limitations as other solar panels (bad clouds, no direct sun, etc) but it is a neat tech. You could theoretically drive for free anywhere you want to go if you want to do it slowly.

[gilchristr]

"most "environmentalists" aren't interested in facts or the actual environment"

This is true. They smugly ignore the second order effects (like they focus on the first order effects of their electric cars - nothing coming out of a tailpipe - meanwhile they pay no regard to the second order effects which are quite obvious, such as more coal burning and strip mining lithium, besides all the one-time costs of building an entirely new car to replace their working/existing car)

[gilchristr]

"charge times will probably be faster than filling up 20 gallons of gas"

Yea right, and you should compare to filling with like 3 gallons of gas anyway (not 20), when you consider how much range that fast electric charge to like %60 battery capacity really got you

[Seran]

"most "environmentalists" aren't interested in facts or the actual environment"

This is true. They smugly ignore the second order effects (like they focus on the first order effects of their electric cars - nothing coming out of a tailpipe - meanwhile they pay no regard to the second order effects which are quite obvious, such as more coal burning and strip mining lithium, besides all the one-time costs of building an entirely new car to replace their working/existing car)

Except you're overlooking lithium extraction technologies by osmosis and water injection is rapidly becoming the lithium production method of choice given how effective, safe and cost effective it is. Reeeeeee

[Seran]

"charge times will probably be faster than filling up 20 gallons of gas"

Yea right, and you should compare to filling with like 3 gallons of gas anyway (not 20), when you consider how much range that fast electric charge to like %60 battery capacity really got you

" A 60% charge on a 350 mile range electric vehicle isn't enough to get you anywhere " says every Republican, petrochemical schill and idiot.

[Parkbandit]

" A 60% charge on a 350 mile range electric vehicle isn't enough to get you anywhere " says every Republican, petrochemical schill and idiot.

"Republicans also block abstinence" says only 1 retard in the history of the world. Seran: The GOAT RETARD CHAMPION.

[Orthin]

"Republicans also block abstinence" says only 1 retard in the history of the world. Seran: The GOAT RETARD CHAMPION.

All I read was GOAT and I got excited...only to be let down by the lack of goat photos.

[Orthin]

9988

Seran may be in there somewhere, though I am terrible at doing the pictures so maybe I am the Goat Retard Champion, that title would suit me since I am slow, the goats look up to me and I have goats.

GOATS

[Parkbandit]

9988

Seran may be in there somewhere, though I am terrible at doing the pictures so maybe I am the Goat Retard Champion, that title would suit me since I am slow, the goats look up to me and I have goats.

GOATS

If you are "slow", Seran is literally absolute zero.

And those goats look like Einstein and Musk compared to Seran.

[Methais]

"most "environmentalists" aren't interested in facts or the actual environment"

This is true. They smugly ignore the second order effects (like they focus on the first order effects of their electric cars - nothing coming out of a tailpipe - meanwhile they pay no regard to the second order effects which are quite obvious, such as more coal burning and strip mining lithium, besides all the one-time costs of building an entirely new car to replace their working/existing car)

They're the same people that think meat comes from the grocery store.

[Methais]

9988

Seran may be in there somewhere, though I am terrible at doing the pictures so maybe I am the Goat Retard Champion, that title would suit me since I am slow, the goats look up to me and I have goats.

GOATS

Here's a goat by the sea.

A goat sea.

https://i.imgur.com/A9Nmn2w.png

[Solkern]

Here's a goat by the sea.

A goat sea.

https://i.imgur.com/A9Nmn2w.png

Of course the goat Methais’s decided to post is white. Racist, and reported.

[Orthin]

Here's a goat by the sea.

A goat sea.

https://i.imgur.com/A9Nmn2w.png

I loved this picture so much I googled goat sea pictures. I’m unclean now