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Alastir
12-11-2022, 03:24 PM
Known Characters: Zaoloo, Cryogic, Zunjis, Giujomo, Entwil, Tashinas, Siamo, Pogoh, Moongoler, Roha, Shemittens

Previous Paypal Address: Martinee1984@gmail.com
New Paypal Address: fralcon84@gmail.com

Known Discord ID: Fralconchan#3417

Cryogic PC account: http://forum.gsplayers.com/member.php?13276-Cryogic
Zaoloo PC account: http://forum.gsplayers.com/member.php?10222-Luntz

~~~

Duskruin Update Part 1:

NEW characters: Moongoler & Roha
New Paypal Address: fralcon84@gmail.com
Which matches his Discord handle Fralconchan#3417.

[Merchant]-GSIV:Roha: "selling up to 400mil for $3.5 per mil paypal/venmo/cashapp"

~~~

Duskruin Update Part 2:

New F2P character: Shemittens

[Merchant]-GSIV:Shemittens: "selling 75k bs 750k per 1k"


[Duskruin Arena, Descent - 23782] (u8213016)
You notice a black and red wire wastebasket.
Also here: High Lord Zaoloo, Roha, Shemittens
Obvious exits: southeast

Zaoloo removes a strand of veniom thread from in his veniom-threaded lootsack.

Zaoloo offers Shemittens a strand of veniom thread.

Shemittens accepts Zaoloo's veniom thread.

~~~

New character: Pogoh

Zaoloo is attempting to sell silvers and his characters filled with scripting violations.



Line 26591: [Merchant]-GSIV:Pogoh: "selling 170mil @ $4 per mil"

Line 7843: [Merchant]-GSIV:Pogoh: "selling 120mil @ $4 per mil or $450 for the bunch"

Line 18595: [Merchant]-GSIV:Pogoh: "selling a 16.4mil dark elf sorc and 14.7mil elf wizard, perfect stats account takeovers, paypal or silver"

Line 10625: [Merchant]-GSIV:Pogoh: "selling a 16.9mil dark elf sorc 15.2mil elf wizard and 11mil giant sorc, perfect stat account takeovers or transfer, paypal or silver/bs"




[help]-GSIV:Zunjis: "You've been warned 3 times on the character Zunjis. Your last warning was on Wed Oct 27 07:51:30 ET 2021. Your last scripting violation was on Wed Oct 27 07:51:30 ET 2021."


~~~

Zaoloo is back, and is attempting to act like this didn't happen. I've pulled his known scams from the main thread and consolidated them for easy reference.

Original Thread: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?134937-Thief-Cryogic-Martinee1984-gmail-com-Tashinas&highlight=Eurial



I posted an add for 2m BS. Cryogic responded and said that he had 1.05M BS available for $2900.00. I accepted and sent payment. He never showed to deliver. While I have gotten a refund through AMEX and reported him/her to PayPal. Everyone should steer clear.
Eurial.




Went dark on me August 8th. Borrowed a large sum in May. I wanted to have the benefit of the doubt here, that something went wrong or happened. But I am seeing repetitive behavior and we need to openly discuss this so that it doesn't continue. Eurial is a returning player who is putting money into our little community. That makes our game continue and flourish. I don't like anyone messing with that. I don't want this to happen to anyone else.

And for posterity's sake. It was 225m. No small amount. :) My GS silver amex card won't let me reverse the charge!




He swindled 80 million silver from me not too long ago. I posted about it in merchant feedback.
-- Faulkil




I had an issue with him back in August too, thankfully my bank was able to help out but I waited a couple of months to do anything because in his last message he said he was handling stuff for his mother's estate so I figured he was in the process of grieving/stressed and didn't want to be a dick about it. I regret that if I hadn't been so considerate this might have not been an issue for others.



There are supposedly 4 more people who he scammed, I would be extremely cautious when doing business with him in any capacity beyond a silver transaction.

Make sure he gives you the item first, and you verify the item before paying him silvers for it.

Ask for references when dealing with "newer" PC accounts as he will use multiple accounts so people don't know it's him.

HouseofElves
12-11-2022, 03:28 PM
Boomdooms, Yeraus, Yfirup

Alastir
12-11-2022, 03:28 PM
Line 3777: [Merchant]-You: "He's hiding as Enteen"
Line 11527: [Merchant]-You: "Zaoloo always scripted out of the same room when it came to DR. He started off scripting out of that room this run and then changed."
Line 8036: [Private]-GSIV:Enteen: "not like I'm trying to hide it, you obviously know, but my dad died last month of covid and I dont feel like dealing with lnet bullshit this dr, so if you could just leave me be, I'll do the same, thanks"
Line 8037: [Private]-GSIV:Enteen: "*know who I am"
Line 8075: [PrivateTo]-GSIV:Enteen: "I'm sorry for your loss."
Line 8087: [Private]-GSIV:Enteen: "thanks, seeing how disrespectful people have been about Draccor just makes me think I did the right thing"
Line 8159: [Private]-GSIV:Enteen: "dont have the energy I normally do to dismiss lnet bullshit and laugh bout it, have had my lnet hidden most this DR"
Line 8172: [PrivateTo]-GSIV:Enteen: "I was pretty bad after having to put my down dog last month, I can't imagine losing a parent."
Line 8173: [Private]-GSIV:Enteen: "I know I probly dont deserve it but thanks for the courtesy, respek knucks"
Line 8230: [Private]-GSIV:Enteen: "oh well my 17 year old cat and my 10 year old dog died in 2020 also, its been rough couple years"
Line 8231: [Private]-GSIV:Enteen: "damn that sucks, sorry to hear it"




[Merchant]-GSIV:Khuru: "I just figured he'd be selling out after scamming all those people."
[Merchant]-GSIV:Khuru: "after his little fee fees got hurt IRL"
[Merchant]-GSIV:Zaoloo: "what did you base that off of, an alastir post? why do you think I would ever not gaslight him"
[Merchant]-GSIV:Zaoloo: "lolol"
[Merchant]-You: "What?"
[Merchant]-GSIV:Zaoloo: "hey alastir remember when you believed that bullshit ahaha"
[Merchant]-GSIV:Zaoloo: "good times"
[Merchant]-You: "You mean when you said that your cat and dad died?"
[Merchant]-GSIV:Zaoloo: "yep"
[Merchant]-You: "I'm such a monster for consoling someone who might have lost their dad."
[Merchant]-GSIV:Zaoloo: "no I knew you would eventually post it somewhere and use it against me, like you do everything you creepy stalker"


You can see in the forst quote above from HouseofElves that he claimed to be handling his mother's estate. And in the second quote in this post where he claimed his father had died.

Lord Orbstar
12-14-2022, 06:28 AM
What a cocksucker, but not in a good gay sort of way.

GS4Faulkil
12-23-2022, 11:41 AM
>> He swindled 80 million silver from me not too long ago. I posted about it in merchant feedback.
>> -- Faulkil

Remove my name from this list please. I reached out to Zaoloo when he was back in game and he has returned the 80 million silvers.

-- Faulkil

C.Difficile
12-23-2022, 11:49 AM
>> He swindled 80 million silver from me not too long ago. I posted about it in merchant feedback.
>> -- Faulkil

Remove my name from this list please. I reached out to Zaoloo when he was back in game and he has returned the 80 million silvers.

-- Faulkil

I dont think that's how it works man. Giving property back after you steal it doesnt gets you of the hook.

C.Difficile
12-23-2022, 01:38 PM
>> He swindled 80 million silver from me not too long ago. I posted about it in merchant feedback.
>> -- Faulkil

Remove my name from this list please. I reached out to Zaoloo when he was back in game and he has returned the 80 million silvers.

-- Faulkil

Oh yeah, the fact that you had to go to him to ask for YOUR money back also show he hasn't any remorse for what he did. No public apology, nothing. This just needs to be kept alive every few months so people are aware. I think 70 percent of the game has soft banned him by placing him on ignore at this point anyway.

Anebriated
12-23-2022, 03:33 PM
sounds like its time for "zimzum'd" to become "zaoloo'd'

Frebble
12-23-2022, 07:40 PM
Oh yeah, the fact that you had to go to him to ask for YOUR money back also show he hasn't any remorse for what he did. No public apology, nothing. This just needs to be kept alive every few months so people are aware. I think 70 percent of the game has soft banned him by placing him on ignore at this point anyway.

This is correct, everyone's entitled to a bad day. The bad behavior sticks in the craw...

A lesson hopefully not learnt too late! Merry Christmas fellow grumps!

GS4Faulkil
12-26-2022, 11:02 AM
>>Oh yeah, the fact that you had to go to him to ask for YOUR money back also show he hasn't any remorse for what he did. No public apology, nothing. This just needs to be kept alive every few months so people are aware. I think 70 percent of the game has soft banned him by placing him on ignore at this point anyway.

I don't expect to be doing business with him in the future based on how the prior transaction was handled.

He did apologize to me for the issue. Not sure why he would need to apologize publicly - I'm assuming that he has apologized to the other people that were impacted and if not, that would be between them or for them to speak to if they feel so inclined.

Pretty much the last I have to say on this topic though.

-- Faulkil

tohrment
12-26-2022, 11:20 AM
Siamo isn't zaoloo anymore FYI....

C.Difficile
12-26-2022, 12:37 PM
He did apologize to me for the issue. Not sure why he would need to apologize publicly - I'm assuming that he has apologized to the other people that were impacted and if not, that would be between them or for them to speak to if they feel so inclined.

-- Faulkil

I'm glad you asked, let me clue you in. The whole GS financial ecosystem is tiny and built on trust like the diamond traders in NYCs diamond district. Equivalent of handing over 10x DBs expecting the other person not to run off. Even a scammer poor that uses his GS proceeds to make rent has repercussions for everyone else. Just look at the threads where people are now super skittish because of one loser dipshit's actions.

Yeah shit happens and to good people sometimes. Thats wehn you pull up your big girl panties and beg forgiveness from the people you F'D, tell them you intend to pay them back when you get back on your feet, and give them constant updates and communications. You know, like a good person and responsible adult would do. Not this self-entitled chilidish loser behavior completely ghosting. Thats total BS.

Tgo01
12-26-2022, 02:31 PM
At worst Zaoloo is a straight up scammer.

At best he's someone who fell on hard times and decided to run away with people's real life money or in game silvers (which he most likely sold for real life money) with no intentions of ever returning the things he stole, he did come back months later and decided to make it right to at least one person he screwed over.

This is for sure something everyone should be well made aware of. This is not something we as a community should be sweeping under the rug just because Zaoloo decided to finally repay people months after he ran off with their money, and so far we have only heard one person come forward to say Zaoloo finally made things right.

What finally got people to come forward and admit Zaoloo screwed them over was one person coming forward and showing that Zaoloo tried to steal 3k real dollars from them, and the only reason the person got their money back was because they had to go through their credit card company and PayPal, otherwise who knows if Zaoloo would have ever made that right.

Zaoloo is a scumbag and shouldn't be left off the hook so easily. The community was better when he stayed gone.

HouseofElves
12-26-2022, 03:35 PM
He's ignored my recent DM about this situation.

Rjex
12-26-2022, 03:55 PM
I counted at least 8 people back when the other thread happened, but the ones not listed in the topic post here didn't want to go public about it (which is kinda annoying, I think people should go public with these things). I heard recently some of them got their money back too now, so for what it's worth he's made it right for some people at least. Though TBH if you merchant you have to be proactive about these things, shit happens, but if I got banned or something happened IRL and I owed people, I'd be writing them personal emails the same day saying how and when I'll make things right, not just ignore the situation for half a year and then be like whatever.

Realk
12-26-2022, 04:21 PM
I'll make things right, not just ignore the situation for half a year and then be like whatever

I think that's the part that rips the nerves, is the general lack of care that it was not cool a slap to anyone that did trust the community as a whole.

Tgo01
12-26-2022, 04:36 PM
not just ignore the situation for half a year and then be like whatever.

Yup that is the absolute worst part of this all; he just came back and started playing again as if nothing happened.

Why anyone would trust him again with their money is beyond me. Who is to say he won't just screw over a dozen people again and disappear for good next time?

Zimzum was before my time, but to this day I still hear people talk about him when the topic of scammers is brought up. I guess all Zimzum had to do was wait 6 months then come back and be all like "Nothing happened! We're all cool still, right? Now gimmie money!"

Methais
12-26-2022, 05:13 PM
I think that's the part that rips the nerves, is the general lack of care that it was not cool a slap to anyone that did trust the community as a whole.

I'm mindblown more than anything else at the fact that most people in general, including at least some of the victims, don't seem to even give a shit.

Tgo01
12-26-2022, 07:27 PM
Rep comment:


GMs obviously don't agree with you...

Eh, I don't really think this is something the GMs should get involved in. The GMs say they don't approve of cash transactions probably because they don't want to get involved in shit like this, so it's probably better for them to just stay out of it altogether.

I also don't want the GMs to ban people or anything of that sort based on the playerbase forming a mob, that would set an extremely bad precedent and Zaoloo, as much of a piece of shit as he is, isn't worth it.

This is something I think the playerbase should handle, and they should handle it by making Zaoloo a pariah.

Lord Orbstar
12-27-2022, 02:57 AM
Would be best if someone tracked him down in real life and broke him.

Anebriated
12-27-2022, 08:47 AM
ive been on the receiving end of the scam and i agree that its not something the GMs should get involved with. in some cases its obvious but they dont need to play arbiter for transactions they warn against.

Methais
12-27-2022, 09:03 AM
ive been on the receiving end of the scam and i agree that its not something the GMs should get involved with. in some cases its obvious but they dont need to play arbiter for transactions they warn against.

That would be an incredible shitshow. Imagine Itzel being involved in something like this.

Taernath
12-27-2022, 11:07 AM
GMs will never get involved with secondary market scams because that would be tacit approval of the secondary market.

RAR
12-27-2022, 03:51 PM
I'm mindblown more than anything else at the fact that most people in general, including at least some of the victims, don't seem to even give a shit.

I think they do. At least I do. I was one of the people scammed by Allen back in the day and would never deal with him again. Zaoloo's prices are enough to keep me away. However, I'd definitely think thrice now before doing any transaction with him.

Fleur-de-me
12-27-2022, 06:46 PM
That would be an incredible shitshow. Imagine Itzel being involved in something like this.

Ok now that's fucking scary.

C.Difficile
12-29-2022, 11:50 AM
Total agreement, GMs should not be involved. I have been brainstorming idea on how to effectuate a scammers pariah status. What about having the lnet guy do an IP and total character lnet ban for all the scammer's known characters? Would that be feasible?

Lavastene
12-29-2022, 06:56 PM
Total agreement, GMs should not be involved. I have been brainstorming idea on how to effectuate a scammers pariah status. What about having the lnet guy do an IP and total character lnet ban for all the scammer's known characters? Would that be feasible?
Super easy to get around if you really wanted to.

IorakeWarhammer
01-04-2023, 09:19 PM
Known Characters: Zaoloo, Cryogic, Zunjis, Giujomo, Entwil, Tashinas, Siamo

Known Email Addresses: Martinee1984@gmail.com

Known Discord ID: Fralconchan#3417

Cryogic PC account: http://forum.gsplayers.com/member.php?13276-Cryogic
Zaoloo PC account: http://forum.gsplayers.com/member.php?10222-Luntz



Zaoloo is back, and is attempting to act like this didn't happen. I've pulled his known scams from the main thread and consolidated them for easy reference.

Original Thread: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?134937-Thief-Cryogic-Martinee1984-gmail-com-Tashinas&highlight=Eurial



















There are supposedly 4 more people who he scammed, I would be extremely cautious when doing business with him in any capacity beyond a silver transaction.

Make sure he gives you the item first, and you verify the item before paying him silvers for it.

Ask for references when dealing with "newer" PC accounts as he will use multiple accounts so people don't know it's him.


not surprised to see this was always obvious Zaoloo was bad vibes

Alastir
01-23-2023, 11:05 AM
Zaoloo is now going by the name POGOH on merchant, attempting to sell silvers and his characters filled with scripting violations.



Line 26591: [Merchant]-GSIV:Pogoh: "selling 170mil @ $4 per mil"

Line 7843: [Merchant]-GSIV:Pogoh: "selling 120mil @ $4 per mil or $450 for the bunch"

Line 18595: [Merchant]-GSIV:Pogoh: "selling a 16.4mil dark elf sorc and 14.7mil elf wizard, perfect stats account takeovers, paypal or silver"

Line 10625: [Merchant]-GSIV:Pogoh: "selling a 16.9mil dark elf sorc 15.2mil elf wizard and 11mil giant sorc, perfect stat account takeovers or transfer, paypal or silver/bs"




[help]-GSIV:Zunjis: "You've been warned 3 times on the character Zunjis. Your last warning was on Wed Oct 27 07:51:30 ET 2021. Your last scripting violation was on Wed Oct 27 07:51:30 ET 2021."


Buyers Beware!

Alastir
02-20-2023, 06:03 PM
Duskruin Update:

NEW characters: Moongoler & Roha

New Paypal Address: fralcon84@gmail.com


Which matches his Discord handle Fralconchan#3417.

Xcalibur1
02-20-2023, 07:19 PM
People, be aware that Alastir was Admin here and used his privileges to edit other's comments he felt was hurtful for his girlish feelings.

He also spied ingame by leaving characters in key areas so that he could use those information for collusion in selling

He edited the MAPDB just before an event kicked in so that people were unable to go to key areas besides himself.

Et cetera ( No longer have access to LNET FILES but there was other shit like that).

Alastir is a piece of shit. A cheating piece of shit and probably someone that has women issues as he's very prone to tantrum.

I'd take his personnal crusade against Zaoloo with a grain of salt.

Tgo01
02-20-2023, 07:24 PM
I'd take his personnal crusade against Zaoloo with a grain of salt.

There was like 10 people who accused Zaoloo of either accepting money for items but he never delivered said items or refunded the money, he "borrowed" silvers from people and never paid them back, and other shit.

Velfi
02-20-2023, 07:31 PM
People, be aware that Alastir was Admin here and used his privileges to edit other's comments he felt was hurtful for his girlish feelings.

He also spied ingame by leaving characters in key areas so that he could use those information for collusion in selling

He edited the MAPDB just before an event kicked in so that people were unable to go to key areas besides himself.

Et cetera ( No longer have access to LNET FILES but there was other shit like that).

Alastir is a piece of shit. A cheating piece of shit and probably someone that has women issues as he's very prone to tantrum.

I'd take his personnal crusade against Zaoloo with a grain of salt.


There was like 10 people who accused Zaoloo of either accepting money for items but he never delivered said items or refunded the money, he "borrowed" silvers from people and never paid them back, and other shit.

One of these being true doesn't mean the other becomes false, they can both simultaneously be involved in nefarious deeds.

Tgo01
02-20-2023, 07:51 PM
One of these being true doesn't mean the other becomes false, they can both simultaneously be involved in nefarious deeds.

True. Just saying there is a lot more here than just a personal crusade on Alastir’s part.

Xcalibur1
02-20-2023, 08:01 PM
One of these being true doesn't mean the other becomes false, they can both simultaneously be involved in nefarious deeds.

You're not wrong.

I know Zaoloo WAS (keyword) having a tough reputation as an hard merchant but scamming? He never had that scooter vibe.

My bad bros.

p.s. Alastir is still a piece of shit.

Alastir
02-20-2023, 08:34 PM
True. Just saying there is a lot more here than just a personal crusade on Alastir’s part.

I left Zaoloo alone until he started running his mouth on Merchant channel after returning, trying to pretend that he didn't scam a ton of people.

The fact that he's using multiple characters and a new paypal address just seems shady after his previous scams.

Luntz
02-20-2023, 09:41 PM
I came back and made amends to people who mattered, because I plan on sticking around. You know nothing about what happened and don't matter, so fuck off autist e-stalker loser, you fail at being an internet detective. Go make some more excel spreadsheets about HESS costs that nobody gives a shit about.

Alastir
02-20-2023, 09:56 PM
I came back and made amends to people who mattered, because I plan on sticking around. You know nothing about what happened and don't matter, so fuck off autist e-stalker loser, you fail at being an internet detective. Go make some more excel spreadsheets about HESS costs that nobody gives a shit about.

Made amends to people who mattered...

Let's hope any potential future customers matter so you don't try to scam them too.

Neveragain
02-20-2023, 10:08 PM
I came back and made amends to people who mattered

https://media.tenor.com/ZrG_VrhRWiAAAAAM/dig-grave.gif

Zaoloo is really upset about this. Something about faggots and billions of silvers.

Alastir
02-21-2023, 11:00 PM
autist e-stalker loser internet detective update:

New F2P character: Shemittens

[Merchant]-GSIV:Shemittens: "selling 75k bs 750k per 1k"



[Duskruin Arena, Descent - 23782] (u8213016)
You notice a black and red wire wastebasket.
Also here: High Lord Zaoloo, Roha, Shemittens
Obvious exits: southeast

Zaoloo removes a strand of veniom thread from in his veniom-threaded lootsack.

Zaoloo offers Shemittens a strand of veniom thread.

Shemittens accepts Zaoloo's veniom thread.

Ramrod
02-22-2023, 12:53 PM
I left Zaoloo alone until he started running his mouth on Merchant channel after returning, trying to pretend that he didn't scam a ton of people.

The fact that he's using multiple characters and a new paypal address just seems shady after his previous scams.

Why don't you post under your Inspire account?

C.Difficile
05-20-2023, 08:02 AM
Zaoloo name changed to Qyi now, part of a multi group with Qyo Blightskab and some others. Be careful dealing with these and associated accounts.

Fleur-de-me
05-20-2023, 08:15 AM
Zaoloo name changed to Qyi now, part of a multi group with Qyo Blightskab and some others. Be careful dealing with these and associated accounts.

Yes be careful, I'm a known scammer beware. The others being Glaves, Qyi, Qyo, Qyp, blightskab and Sical (blightskab will be renamed too when i get unlazy). Just so you have a complete list. However none of these characters are owned by the former player of Zaoloo if it matters <shrug>.

If you feel like you have been scammed by me, please feel free to reach out! (Except Ramrod, i'm rippping him off any chance I get! j/k) Discord Fleur-de-me#2573

SonoftheNorth
05-20-2023, 10:57 AM
Yes be careful, I'm a known scammer beware. The others being Glaves, Qyi, Qyo, Qyp, blightskab and Sical (blightskab will be renamed too when i get unlazy). Just so you have a complete list. However none of these characters are owned by the former player of Zaoloo if it matters <shrug>.

If you feel like you have been scammed by me, please feel free to reach out! (Except Ramrod, i'm rippping him off any chance I get! j/k jon) Discord Fleur-de-me#2573

You could have just said you bought zaoloos character

zhagen
05-20-2023, 01:52 PM
Is Zaoloo really gone? :*(

Fleur-de-me
05-20-2023, 05:04 PM
Is Zaoloo really gone? :*(

I doubt it. He did ask to keep his name. No one quits gemstone. Gemstone quits the player.

Bryce
08-01-2024, 04:21 PM
Boomdooms, Yeraus, Yfirup

Yfirup isn’t Zaoloos for the record


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