archery question, ambush or perception?

[Kuyuk]

What does ambush do for archery, and what does perception do?

Perception =aiming?
ambush =?
stalkin and hiding =stay hidden when fire?


K.

[Jolena]

I've always been told that ambush and perception are equally as important for archery and that both play a role in aiming accurately. :shrug:

[ElanthianSiren]

I've always been told that ambush is your actual ambush (unhidden and hidden) and your perception modifies that roll when hidden.

Take it for what it's worth: I train both:

Level: 18 Deeds: 7
Experience: 395709 Decays this level: 0
Exp. until next: 29291 Recent Deaths: 0
Mental TPs: 0 Fame: 335461
Physical TPs: 68 Mana: 67/67 max
(54 Phy converted to Mnt)

Your mind is as clear as a bell.

>skill
(at level 18), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 62 13
Combat Maneuvers...................| 86 19
Ranged Weapons.....................| 140 40
Ambush.............................| 93 21
Physical Fitness...................| 86 19
Dodging............................| 86 19
Harness Power......................| 96 22
Spirit Mana Control................| 25 5
Stalking and Hiding................| 140 40
Perception.........................| 96 22
Climbing...........................| 30 6
Swimming...........................| 30 6

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 3

Spell Lists
Ranger.............................| 18

[fallenSaint]

Too lazy to verify this info but from what I remember:

Aiming from Open = Perception
Aiming from Hidden = Perception + Ambush
Stalk and Hide = Keep your ass hidden when fireing

If Im wrong ... it wouldnt be new?

I have to ask an off-topic question because my Tourette's is kicking in:

Can you BOND to a crossbow/bow?

[Kuyuk]

thread hijacking!!!!!


K.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<Can you BOND to a crossbow/bow?>>

As a melee weapon, yes.

I'm not going to pretend to know what ambush and perception actually do for archery, but you should 2x ambush, 3x perception, and 3x hiding.

Shay did, and Shay was epic.

[Kuyuk]

<I'm not going to pretend to know what ambush and perception actually do for archery, but you should 2x ambush, 3x perception, and 3x hiding.

Shay did, and Shay was epic.
>


Shay=rogue

me=ranger

[Bobmuhthol]

Be a rogue.

[Kuyuk]

OK, I cant get a real good training idea for my ranger: level 28


Armor 12 ranks
Brawl: 60 ranks
Ranged: 60 rank

Dodge: 30 ranks
CM: 15 ranks
Physical: 30 ranks

Hiding: 45
Perception: 57 ranks
Ambush: ZERO


Harness power: 27 ranks
Spirit control: 20 ranks

Minor Spirit spells: 11
Ranger spells: 19

Swim: 8 ranks
Climb: 10 ranks
Survival: 30 ranks

[Izzy101]

Both perception and ambush add AS after 40 ranks. How much, I'm not sure. Actually, I'm not even positive they do add, but I've been told on several occasions that they do.

-Ragonik

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

This seems to work well for me. I read the whole ambush/perception increases AS also. I bet Snowy can answer better though.

(at level 23), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 30 6
Ranged Weapons.....................| 150 50
Ambush.............................| 105 25
Physical Fitness...................| 105 25
Dodging............................| 165 65
Harness Power......................| 20 4
Disarming Traps....................| 175 75
Picking Locks......................| 175 75
Stalking and Hiding................| 175 75
Perception.........................| 175 75
Climbing...........................| 40 8
Swimming...........................| 30 6
Pickpocketing......................| 150 50

[Kitsun]

FallenSaint and Izzy have it right.

Perception is open aiming.
Ambush and perception for sniping aiming.
Hide/Stalk for staying in the shadows while sniping.

Post 40 ranks in each begins the ranged bonus AS boost.

About your training Kuyuk, you don't need brawling for DS with archery anymore. Holding bows give you ranged DS.

You're probably better off sticking with 1x in perception and 1x ambush. Your sniping should be alright with the bonus from 613.

[Kuyuk]

Brawling is for voln-fu, ask bob how much I kick ass with it.


K.

[Kuyuk]

Armor 12 ranks
Brawl: 60 ranks
Ranged: 60 rank

Dodge: 30 ranks
CM: 14 ranks
Physical: 30 ranks

Hiding: 45
Perception: 58 ranks
Ambush: 30


Harness power: 27 ranks
Spirit control: 10 ranks

Minor Spirit spells: 7
Ranger spells: 19

Swim: 8 ranks
Climb: 10 ranks
Survival: 20 ranks


Any thoughts?


K.

[IntegraC]

Originally posted by Izzy101
Both perception and ambush add AS after 40 ranks. How much, I'm not sure. Actually, I'm not even positive they do add, but I've been told on several occasions that they do.

Ambush and perception add AS after ranks 40, correct. Regarding how much AS, it's 1 AS for every 4 ranks.

So for example, you have over 40 ranks in ambush and over 40 ranks in perception.

Every training you train 2x in ambush and 2x in perception. The AS you would get from ambush is 0.5 AS and from perception is 0.5 AS so combined bonus for a 2x perception 2x ambush per train, is 1 AS.

[Kuyuk]

ok, I dropped trying to be an archer as a ranger since it blows, and the points arent manageable for that and spells.


K.

[mgoddess]

My ranger does very well as an archer...she doesn't snipe, but fires from the open and still kicks arse..

(at level 17)
Armor - 8
CMan - 18
Ranged - 36
PFitness - 18
Dodging - 18
HPower - 18
SLore Summon - 18
Survival - 18
First Aid - 18
Perception - 36
Climbing - 10
Swimming - 10
Ranger Spell - 18

I've had no problems hunting like-level critters with her...I tried the whole sniping thing with her, but it didn't work for me, so I took her to this current plan, which seems to be working very well. :)

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I've had no problems hunting like-level critters with her>>

I've never had a problem hunting like level with any character in my life before level 20.