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Tsa`ah
05-08-2005, 03:12 PM
No this isn't about animal rights or activism. This is about one of the most ignored aspects of modern society, children. Specifically wards of State; aka foster children.

Apparently our illustrious state and federal governments allowed "testing" of HIV medicines on infected foster children through the 80s and 90s. Medicines that were known to have adverse effects on adults but unknown effects on children.

Article here (http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050504140909990015).

I don't think most people realize how messed up the child services, across the board, really are. More and more these children are becoming a commodity. They represent a cross section of our society that no one really cares about. The state of Florida is an excellent example. For the past two decades this state has become synonymous with the abuse of foster children. Not a year goes by that story doesn't pop up about a child, or group of children, that were placed in an abusive home for a lengthy amount of time without sight or sound of a case worker.

The current movement in Florida, and I wouldn't be surprised if other states follow the lead, is to privatize ... yes the Governor of the great state of Florida wants to privatize, foster care.

Step back and think about that for a minute. Children, who at no fault of their own, are removed from an abusive (be it physical, sexual, mental, or neglect) home and placed in another home; which statistically may prove to be just as abusive. Instead of overhauling the system; adding staff, providing stricter licensing procedures ... just making the damn system work the way it is supposed to be ... the movement is to place these children into a privatized system.

Now, if these children lacked advocacy before, how is a privatized system going to fix that problem? Who is going to check on these children to see if their needs are met? Chances are that no one will bother. How soon until these children, the new commodity, are found in group homes that are nothing more than sweat shops? How long until the posted article becomes common place? Say 10 years from now? 5?

This is what truly disturbs me about this society. We care more about how much some incompetent fuck spends on his inaugural ball, or what teen starlet slut is now pregnant than we do children whom the State is supposed to protect.

05-08-2005, 06:35 PM
Yea, and abortion is so wrong because we take care of our kids.

ElanthianSiren
05-08-2005, 06:41 PM
I think I object more to the attitude of the administrators of the programs than actually using the children as test subjects. In many cases, the article states that the kids were informed of the dangers and possible benefits as were their guardians.

What I don't like is the laissez-faire, "oh well some kids died and we didn't hold to the guidelines that we said we would :shrug: "attitude of the individual that they interviewed near the end of the article. That said, I'd rather drugs be tested on humans than animals. If you can't find a test group, I guess you're out of luck then.

-Melissa

Keller
05-08-2005, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by RangerD1
Yea, and abortion is so wrong because we take care of our kids.

I'm still advocating placing foster embryos from fertility clinics in foster uteri so that we can continue to populate our under populated world. Then we could put this whole stem-cell "issue" to rest. No embryos, no embryonic stem-cells.

In addition I would like to thank our fabulous government, in particular our current executor, for holding such a hard-line on gays adopting children. Where would we find excess cretins to test if these kids had homes? What a servant of god.