View Full Version : GOAT Cloak (100% WR/Teleportation+Cross Realms)
Nosimaj
06-14-2022, 11:16 AM
Morning,
It is time. I'm selling my beloved longcloak.
Stats:
Weight Reduction: 100% WR
Storage: Gigantic (My understanding is >=200#)
Teleportation: 20 Locations used like gold ring. See below for additional details.
Cross Realms: 2x/24 hour period to a location within your 20 locations.
>anal long
You analyze your coraesine longcloak and sense that the item is largely free from merchant alteration restrictions, but the creator has stated that "The item type should not change."
The creator has also provided the following information:
The coraesine-threaded longcloak allows teleportation between rooms based on terrain and climate. It has three modes of teleportation.
The random mode, TURN, will transport you within the same area to a room of identical climate and terrain, and can be used once per minute. If no suitable location is found, you will be transported one connected room away.
The coraesine-threaded longcloak can also be used similar to a gold ring, with up to 20 saved locations set by using RUB. TICKLE to cycle between the locations. GAZE to see which location is currently selected. You must be in a room with matching terrain and climate for the transfer to work, and this mode is subject to all the rules of gold ring travel. Use PINCH to travel to the selected location. This travel mode is restricted to one use per ten minutes.
The global version works identically to the gold ring version, with the exception that transfer is opened to world-wide. Global travel can be activated with PLUCK and can be used twice in a twenty-four hour period.
You can tell that the longcloak is as light as it can get and that its pockets could not possibly get any deeper.
MB: $17,000 USD
BO: $22,000 USD
If you have any additional questions I'm here.
Thank you in advance.
poison_Owns
06-14-2022, 12:01 PM
Love it
gs4Pawn
06-14-2022, 12:11 PM
Now if only it had a DB bonus!
Cryogic
06-14-2022, 12:13 PM
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Fleur-de-me
06-14-2022, 12:16 PM
9937
Tgo01
06-14-2022, 12:19 PM
Pretty gosh darn awesome.
Renaden
06-14-2022, 04:36 PM
I'll trade you a one setting no-nav gold ring cloak with 20% WR. It's almost the same thing! (I was very proud of my cloak until I saw this one, crazy cool item!)
azim17
06-14-2022, 04:47 PM
Is it hooded?
Slit-eye
06-14-2022, 05:10 PM
17,000? Whaaaaat? Yeah. I think I'll pass.
Renaden
06-14-2022, 05:42 PM
It would cost $21,000 to duplicate only the 100% WR on a 200lb capacity cloak at RW. Sounds like a relative bargin!
Nosimaj
06-15-2022, 02:11 PM
It would cost $21,000 to duplicate only the 100% WR on a 200lb capacity cloak at RW. Sounds like a relative bargin!
This man gets it. Thank you Sir for your logic and understanding <tips hat>. Also, nice cloak you have as well.
It would cost $21,000 to duplicate only the 100% WR on a 200lb capacity cloak at RW. Sounds like a relative bargin!
It seems like a nice cloak but the WR part just feels really overpriced (why I won't pursue it at rumor woods). Don't get me wrong, I've paid crazy amounts for things in the past but I've always felt like I've gotten value ($1.5k or so for a 10x db cloak back in the day). I just don't see the value here, even at a quarter of this price.
BLZrizz
06-16-2022, 09:14 AM
It seems like a nice cloak but the WR part just feels really overpriced (why I won't pursue it at rumor woods). Don't get me wrong, I've paid crazy amounts for things in the past but I've always felt like I've gotten value ($1.5k or so for a 10x db cloak back in the day). I just don't see the value here, even at a quarter of this price.
Can’t really compare what you paid for an item 20 years ago with the current market. A lot of the whales whose fortunes are tied to crypto put a lot of those gains into the GS market. For items that caught the whales eye, the sky was the limit and no price was too high. A lot of folks like you who bought the early 2000s DBs for 1.5-2.5k cashed them out at 10x gains. They have come down a bunch since then, as the whales all got theirs.
Any items they weren’t interested in remained subject to market forces. The famed rift boots for example sold for around $24,000 to a whale but I surmise they would struggle to sell for a tenth of that amount on the market today. The key to item valuation in this environment is figuring out whether a whale would be interested. The market for non whale items has been largely stable long term.
gs4Pawn
06-16-2022, 01:25 PM
Makes you wonder WTF Simu was thinking when they put that kind of cost on building an item.
Tgo01
06-16-2022, 01:31 PM
Makes you wonder WTF Simu was thinking when they put that kind of cost on building an item.
https://i.imgflip.com/6jwct4.jpg
BLZrizz
06-16-2022, 01:45 PM
Makes you wonder WTF Simu was thinking when they put that kind of cost on building an item.
They made an educated guess on what that particular individual would pay, and they guessed right. People have paid more for items since then (over 2x that amount) but those were P2P sales.
Methais
06-16-2022, 01:51 PM
Makes you wonder WTF Simu was thinking when they put that kind of cost on building an item.
They were thinking "Someone will pay it."
Fleur-de-me
06-16-2022, 04:09 PM
They were thinking "Someone will pay it."
You actually meant they were thinking "I can't believe they paid it, I told you we could have charged more."
danielsh
06-16-2022, 10:29 PM
A lot of the whales whose fortunes are tied to crypto put a lot of those gains into the GS market. For items that caught the whales eye, the sky was the limit and no price was too high.
Makes me wonder whether the crypto crash will have ripple effects on the GS economy.
Makes me wonder whether the crypto crash will have ripple effects on the GS economy.
Buying a 10x db for 2.5k...
This doesn't even have a Ronan alter.
JL177
06-17-2022, 01:50 PM
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gs4Pawn
06-19-2022, 02:02 AM
Buying a 10x db for 2.5k...
(starts the DB burning convention!)
poison_Owns
06-19-2022, 01:19 PM
Makes me wonder whether the crypto crash will have ripple effects on the GS economy.
At this point 95% of crypto owners are down.
zhagen
06-19-2022, 09:19 PM
wait, I thought all our whales where like software/tech millionaires and captains of industry not some Crypto Cowboys who struck it lucky, I wonder if people talked about bitcoin on LNET in like 2014
nocturnix
06-22-2022, 04:14 AM
yeah if it was 10x DB then it would be GOAT. But still really amazing cloak.
I don’t know how people even dare put more than 5k into the game when there’s people on staff changing shit in a major way at exactly whenever they want now.
Methais
06-23-2022, 03:08 PM
I don’t know how people even dare put more than 5k into the game when there’s people on staff changing shit in a major way at exactly whenever they want now.
Last DR was apparently a disaster revenue wise, so perhaps people are catching on.
August DR should be interesting now that people have gotten a taste of Divergence and Estild's shitty "game balance" ideas in general.
Nosimaj
06-26-2022, 10:27 AM
Last DR was apparently a disaster revenue wise, so perhaps people are catching on.
August DR should be interesting now that people have gotten a taste of Divergence and Estild's shitty "game balance" ideas in general.
Sadly, my friend, I agree. Divergence has and will continue to cripple their revenues.
I personally feel this August DR will be pretty bad.
Why they continue with a fragile and small player base to institute things we doesn't like astounds me. This isn't a Blizzard or other mainstream game. You dont have people ready to replace another player.
Alastir
06-26-2022, 10:40 AM
Last DR was apparently a disaster revenue wise, so perhaps people are catching on.
August DR should be interesting now that people have gotten a taste of Divergence and Estild's shitty "game balance" ideas in general.
I tracked entries last DR. It was at least 330,000 in revenue.
HouseofElves
06-26-2022, 11:56 AM
Tracked entries?
Tgo01
06-26-2022, 11:57 AM
Tracked entries?
He had a character sit outside 24/7 with a script running that tracked how many people entered the arena.
I originally typed this in jest, but really I suppose it wouldn't be a very difficult thing to script, assuming you can see when other people enter the arena, which I think you can.
Realk
06-26-2022, 01:01 PM
Also last DR they sold the event boxes for silver, so that would be hard to translate into straight up usd...
Ufian
06-26-2022, 01:44 PM
Also last DR they sold the event boxes for silver, so that would be hard to translate into straight up usd...
They posted the Silver drain from the event boxes (to the nearest 100M), so you could adjust for that with reasonable accuracy I'd imagine.
Realk
06-26-2022, 01:49 PM
They posted the Silver drain from the event boxes (to the nearest 100M), so you could adjust for that with reasonable accuracy I'd imagine.
I tracked entries last DR. It was at least 330,000 in revenue.
No you really cant, because unless I am unaware of something paying simu in silver doesnt create a revenue.
Ufian
06-26-2022, 02:39 PM
I tracked entries last DR. It was at least 330,000 in revenue.
No you really cant, because unless I am unaware of something paying simu in silver doesnt create a revenue.
But if you tracked entries, and they released the silver drain from the event boxes, you can reduce the entries by the silver drain they published and therefore reduce the entries accordingly.
Realk
06-26-2022, 03:36 PM
But if you tracked entries, and they released the silver drain from the event boxes, you can reduce the entries by the silver drain they published and therefore reduce the entries accordingly.
I'm very unclear how why secondary market would create a direct revenue source for simu... unless you just assume that silver drain is going back into the game.
Nevermind I do see your point, but I do still see there is a big area for inaccuracy in the statement.
I dont think i've believed any release they have ever published about what their silver drains were. I've got no reason to start now.. or the assumed other numbers.
btw great cloak and sorry..
Ufian
06-26-2022, 03:40 PM
I'm very unclear how why secondary market would create a direct revenue source for simu... unless you just assume that silver drain is going back into the game.
Perhaps I'm not being clear.
Someone tracked entries.
Someone said that entries wouldn't be a great proxy for revenue because of event boxes.
I'm suggesting you can adjust the entries down for the amount of entries purchased for silver, because they published the silver drain from the event boxes, and the event box price, and entries in each box were known.
I'm not in any way suggesting that silver is revenue. I'm saying that if the 330K number is based strictly off entries, it should be reduced (and can be reasonably approximated) based on those known quantities.
Realk
06-26-2022, 03:46 PM
and i corrected myself with your point, I am also confident that some of the variables werent accounted for, and that i feel the number is likely inaccurate
BLZrizz
06-26-2022, 04:03 PM
Total entries (accounted for in group arena and single) - minus giftboxes - minus event boxes and adjusted for simucoin pricing at the 999.99 package rate gives you the low end.
The only other variable I see is you can't readily assess group size from merely watching the team entry between two or three. But you can make an educated guess that 90% of team entries consist of three members.
Realk
06-26-2022, 04:05 PM
Total entries (accounted for in group arena and single) - minus giftboxes - minus event boxes and adjusted for simucoin pricing at the 999.99 package rate gives you the low end.
The only other variable I see is you can't readily assess group size from merely watching the team entry between two or three. But you can make an educated guess that 90% of team entries consist of three members.
the very big other variable, if you are talking about money, is that you get free simucoins and everyone can save them... so it's not new revenue
Ufian
06-26-2022, 04:24 PM
He posted on Discord the amount of silver drain from even boxes within the nearest 100M. Something like "2.4B drained from event boxes." (I don't know what number he actually said, I'm making that up as an example.)
BLZrizz
06-26-2022, 04:25 PM
the very big other variable, if you are talking about money, is that you get free simucoins and everyone can save them... so it's not new revenue
Agreed that it's not new revenue.
The only other thing I can cite to is an investor release by Stillfront from 2017:
Page 8 actually breaks down Gemstones and Dragonrealms contribution to overall revenue
Total Stillfront Q3 (Jul-Sep 17) Revenue: 45.4m SEK (or $5,544,097).
Total Revenue attributable to GS4 Q3: 7% or $388,087
Total Revenue attributable to DragonRealms Q3: 3% or $166,323
http://www.stillfront.com/site/wp-co...esentation.pdf
Back in 2017, one could assume the two playerbases were roughly equivalent (also based on a different Stillfront report listing MAU/DAUs for both games at ~1500). The difference this particular quarter was that Duskruin ran, which accounted for a 220k revenue differential.
Realk
06-26-2022, 04:28 PM
the still front thing, i'll trust more than just Mario saying we did okay guys... and a rough estimate by someone who logged entries
Methais
06-27-2022, 09:08 AM
I tracked entries last DR. It was at least 330,000 in revenue.
Assuming that figure is accurate, August DR will still be pretty interesting, being that it's the first post-Divergence, post-"If you pay cash for an item expecting things to not change, you're doing it wrong." DR.
Idalias
06-28-2022, 12:27 AM
Given how bad the real economy is right now, revenue for all events is going to be terrible. Hope they try to spice it up with some good offerings in order to get people excited.
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