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drumpel
01-06-2022, 07:09 PM
Wyrom posted on the officials:

Hey everyone, in an effort to make sure we deliver appropriate communication, we have decided that we are going to be shutting down the forums. A date for this is still being determined, once I know more, I'll post another update.


Here is a comment from him on discord:

[5:00 PM EST] Wyrom: I definitely encourage everyone to discuss the announcement here (or the forums, too soon?), but just be aware this isn't a decision the GameMasters have made. This comes from higher up and it impacts both GS and DR.



I don't know about most folks, but I fucking hate discord. I think this is a shitty move.

gilchristr
01-06-2022, 07:11 PM
hate discord. I think this is a shitty move.

Taernath
01-06-2022, 07:17 PM
Very little news and info makes it out of the discord black hole. It's a bad move, but one a lot of people saw coming as it's part of a larger trend in the industry moving to quick, easy, impermanent engagement rather than slower, more deliberate discussion.

Also +1 to discord fucking sucks.

Tgo01
01-06-2022, 07:26 PM
[5:00 PM EST]This comes from higher up and it impacts both GS and DR.

I just find this hard to believe. Who is "higher up" than Wyrom? Some random president of Stillfront? Is Stillfront that involved in the daily operations of GS? Were they crunching the numbers and figured they could save tens of dollars a month if they closed down the official forums?

Rinualdo
01-06-2022, 07:31 PM
Is there anything someone from Simu could say or do that you would believe?
Its an incredibly old forum that everyone hates. Isn't it plausible there is an overhead cost or security issue that isn't cost effective to patch a home brewed forum that necessitated the shutdown?

Also, they are going to be expanding use of the wiki for people that don't like discord. They have said that's where announcements and the like will be posted there, and discord is the place for discussion on them.

SonoftheNorth
01-06-2022, 07:39 PM
Is there anything someone from Simu could say or do that you would believe?
Its an incredibly old forum that everyone hates. Isn't it plausible there is an overhead cost or security issue that isn't cost effective to patch a home brewed forum that necessitated the shutdown?

Also, they are going to be expanding use of the wiki for people that don't like discord. They have said that's where announcements and the like will be posted there, and discord is the place for discussion on them.



Forums are awful but are they going to be archived? And yeah I don't think switching to a chat service is the right move either, expanded wiki sounds good but people won't be able to respond on it, seems like they are sweeping complaints under the rug where stillfront won't be able to have any oversight like forums they might have someone read but probably aren't going to shovel thru 52915959 discord posts.

mgoddess
01-06-2022, 07:43 PM
Wyrom posted on the officials:

Hey everyone, in an effort to make sure we deliver appropriate communication, we have decided that we are going to be shutting down the forums. A date for this is still being determined, once I know more, I'll post another update.


Here is a comment from him on discord:

[5:00 PM EST] Wyrom: I definitely encourage everyone to discuss the announcement here (or the forums, too soon?), but just be aware this isn't a decision the GameMasters have made. This comes from higher up and it impacts both GS and DR.



I don't know about most folks, but I fucking hate discord. I think this is a shitty move.

Fucking shitshow bullshit... I also hate discord, and think this is a shitty move.


Also, they are going to be expanding use of the wiki for people that don't like discord. They have said that's where announcements and the like will be posted there, and discord is the place for discussion on them.
Bet they announced this on the discord... *grumblemutter*

Tgo01
01-06-2022, 07:44 PM
Is there anything someone from Simu could say or do that you would believe?

Considering the amount of times they have flip-flopped or straight up lied over the years? Probably not. Blame Simu and the GMs for the way they do things, don't blame me.


Its an incredibly old forum that everyone hates. Isn't it plausible there is an overhead cost or security issue that isn't cost effective to patch a home brewed forum that necessitated the shutdown?

That's absolutely a plausibility, I just don't think someone at Stillfront made that decision.

Rinualdo
01-06-2022, 07:48 PM
I'm not really sure how someone could reconcile stillfront dictating the change while at the same time accusing GS of using it to sweep complaints under the rug. I would suspect that when people complain, its via feedback@ which goes directly to onsite anyway.

If you look at Wyrom's response, I don't see how you can take this other than something GS GMs got told was happening and they are trying to make the best of it and make it work. They haven't said what the driver is- but if its a security vuln, then I doubt things will be archived. I would suspect some things like vignettes and various other historical things will be wiki-ported.

Rinualdo
01-06-2022, 07:49 PM
Considering the amount of times they have flip-flopped or straight up lied over the years? Probably not. Blame Simu and the GMs for the way they do things, don't blame me.



That's absolutely a plausibility, I just don't think someone at Stillfront made that decision.

I can't buy into your conspiracy theories.

If it wasn't Stillfront, who else could make the decision to shut down forums for all the games?

Taernath
01-06-2022, 07:52 PM
Is Whatley no longer the CEO or what? I don't think Stillfront gives that much of a shit about forums to micromanage that.

drumpel
01-06-2022, 07:58 PM
I can't buy into your conspiracy theories.

If it wasn't Stillfront, who else could make the decision to shut down forums for all the games?

Or perhaps, as some have been talking about over the past 5 or so years, maybe it's really coming to fruition that these text based games are really on their last legs. And sooner, rather than later, the rug is just going to be yanked out from underneath the players and GMs because we'll attempt to log in and the game will no longer exist.

After the plug has been pulled, only then will we see a letter from Simutronics stating the games have been shut down, thank you for your time with us, we hope you the best and blah, blah, blah.

Whirlin
01-06-2022, 08:22 PM
There's probably some super legacy vulnerabilities that are risky due to the interconnectivity with accounts that's not worth the investment to fix for the super old platform. Rather than leaving the exposure outstanding while finding the expertise to fix ancient tech, shut it down for now, see if the functionality can be lived without, and reintroduce something on modern hardware that's more readily and easily maintainable from the backend if necessary.

Tgo01
01-06-2022, 09:24 PM
If it wasn't Stillfront, who else could make the decision to shut down forums for all the games?

All two games?

The announcements just don't make sense. They want to ensure they "deliver appropriate communication" so they have decided to shut down the forums, then the other announcement makes sure to point out that the GMs had nothing to do with this and this order comes from higher up, and I'm pretty sure Wyrom is the highest person at Simutronics so unless by "higher up" he meant himself he must mean someone at Stillfront made the decision to shut down the official forums so they can ""deliver appropriate communication."

Just seems like a strange coincidence that this announcement came a few months after people were complaining about the GMs not properly communicating changes to the game on the official forums and now "higher ups" have taken a keen interest in the forums and have decided to shut them down to "deliver appropriate communication."

All I said was I find it very hard to believe, because I do. This ranks right up there with fire extinguisher inspections.

I would have preferred if Wyrom just said "The official forums are an outdated mess and we're too cheap to invest in proper forums so we're moving all official activity to Discord. Suck it!"

Tgo01
01-06-2022, 09:25 PM
Is Whatley no longer the CEO or what? I don't think Stillfront gives that much of a shit about forums to micromanage that.

He could be. I thought he sold the company to Stillfront and no longer had any official capacity at Simutronics. I could be totally wrong about this though and there are indeed people higher up than Wyrom at Simutronics.

gilchristr
01-06-2022, 10:14 PM
Maybe wyrom was in a new year kickoff meeting with stillfront, and he proposed the forum changes, and they were like "sounds good, is this meeting over yet?"

And then he was like, 'the decision came down from above.'

Fortybox
01-06-2022, 10:21 PM
The higher ups probably visited the forum and realized they sucked so bad that they said shut it down.

Rinualdo
01-06-2022, 10:27 PM
All two games?

The announcements just don't make sense. They want to ensure they "deliver appropriate communication" so they have decided to shut down the forums, then the other announcement makes sure to point out that the GMs had nothing to do with this and this order comes from higher up, and I'm pretty sure Wyrom is the highest person at Simutronics so unless by "higher up" he meant himself he must mean someone at Stillfront made the decision to shut down the official forums so they can ""deliver appropriate communication."

Just seems like a strange coincidence that this announcement came a few months after people were complaining about the GMs not properly communicating changes to the game on the official forums and now "higher ups" have taken a keen interest in the forums and have decided to shut them down to "deliver appropriate communication."

All I said was I find it very hard to believe, because I do. This ranks right up there with fire extinguisher inspections.

I would have preferred if Wyrom just said "The official forums are an outdated mess and we're too cheap to invest in proper forums so we're moving all official activity to Discord. Suck it!"

Wyrom is the PM for Gemstone. Lyneya is the PM for DR. They both work for an on-site team at Stillfront.

Alashir
01-06-2022, 10:28 PM
Love discord, doesn't make sense to keep those archaic forums open.

gilchristr
01-06-2022, 10:38 PM
Lol at using 'archaic' to denegrate a forum in the context of being a part of a game that owe's its success to being archaic.

AnOrdim
01-06-2022, 10:40 PM
Stillfront isn't going to shut down DR or GS. They just invested a bunch of money a few years ago into buying a majority share of the game. They need to recover their investment. Their main page explains it all: https://www.stillfront.com/en/

"Our diverse and exciting games portfolio has two common themes; loyal users and long lifecycle games."

Nothing
01-07-2022, 05:58 AM
I haven't figured out what Wyrom's actual skills are beyond making himself one hell of a whipping boy. His complete lack of PR skills don't do his "higher ups" or us any favors though.

As per usual, he's just gonna do whatever the fuck he wants to do and insult the intelligence of the players while defending his actions... until someone gives into the temptation to call him the dumbass he is so he can use it as an excuse to bring a halt to the conversation.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-07-2022, 09:20 AM
This forums still exist, just saying :)

Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-07-2022, 09:26 AM
https://www.simutronics.com/careers.html

No idea how old or new those postings are, but it would appear they are indeed hiring web developers, designers and sys admins... so maybe they do intend to create a new forum.

Nothing
01-07-2022, 09:28 AM
If that's the case, his PR skills suck even worse then I thought

Whirlin
01-07-2022, 09:50 AM
https://www.simutronics.com/careers.html

No idea how old or new those postings are, but it would appear they are indeed hiring web developers, designers and sys admins... so maybe they do intend to create a new forum.
While True... Keep in mind that Simu has a large platform development side of their organization. It's quite a bigger company than some MUDs.
MUDs aren't the reason that Stillfront acquired Simu. Stillfront acquired Simu to help leverage platforms to expedite other company's mobile development streamlines. It was always for leveraging their IP, not their consistent revenue streams. That was spelled out in their first annual report post acquisition.

I'd guess that they're waiting to verify that there is a continued need for the forums, identify the gaps in the process based on existing tools, and if necessary, then create new forums if they're finding things not to be working as well as expected.

Parkbandit
01-07-2022, 10:02 AM
Does anyone really care if they are shut down?

They were useless, over moderated and annoying to use.

Good riddance.

Parkbandit
01-07-2022, 10:04 AM
This forums still exist, just saying :)

Seriously.

Suck it Wyrom.

audioserf
01-07-2022, 10:35 AM
The GS officials are fucking trash as hell, I'm fine with this. I happen to like discord but I also respect the point that it's impermanent. I think the combo of Wiki + discord they're going for will work in the end. It sounds like they plan to have a Wiki feature that permits people to post questions, so the sole means of feedback will not be discord (which would definitely be bad).

Taernath
01-07-2022, 10:56 AM
I'd guess that they're waiting to verify that there is a continued need for the forums, identify the gaps in the process based on existing tools, and if necessary, then create new forums if they're finding things not to be working as well as expected.

If this were the situation the officials would have been replaced a long, long time ago.

It's apathy. It's more work to host, moderate, and engage on the officials than to just post in a chat room.

Methais
01-07-2022, 12:26 PM
I can't buy into your conspiracy theories.

If it wasn't Stillfront, who else could make the decision to shut down forums for all the games?

Whatley (49%) is above Wyrom but below Stillfront (51%). Though I've always assumed Whatley stopped giving a fuck about GS years ago.

This would have been epic if the announcement was only made in Discord right before they pull the plug on the forums.

"Wtf happened to the officials?"

"We got rid of them."

"Wtf and you didn't tell us?"

"We announced it in Discord yesterday at 2:38am."


That would be the most Simu way to do it.

Gelston
01-07-2022, 03:01 PM
Is Whatley no longer the CEO or what? I don't think Stillfront gives that much of a shit about forums to micromanage that.

Whatley is a minority stock holder. He may be CEO, but honestly, he can't stop a Stillfront decision.

Stanley Burrell
01-07-2022, 03:49 PM
Wow. I like how I asked a question on Discord and was told (by a GM) it would be an excellent post to make on the forums (that I rarely use.)

It's weird though. I don't get it.

Taernath
01-07-2022, 04:02 PM
Whatley is a minority stock holder. He may be CEO, but honestly, he can't stop a Stillfront decision.

I don't know why people keep thinking Stillfront is behind this. They buy game studios, not forums.

Gelston
01-07-2022, 04:35 PM
I don't know why people keep thinking Stillfront is behind this. They buy game studios, not forums.

The forum is owned by the game studio. They bought it all. I'm thinking they may just be making a stillfront forum that has everything in it like many other companies do.

Methais
01-07-2022, 05:11 PM
I blame Estild.

Gelston
01-07-2022, 05:12 PM
I blame Estild.

I blame COVID 19.

Methais
01-07-2022, 05:17 PM
I blame COVID 19.

Same thing.

Ardwen
01-07-2022, 07:29 PM
I blame Methais, who is overdue for his defenstration.

Gaius2745ml49
01-07-2022, 07:39 PM
Honestly I haven't read the officials in three to five years.

Akaylas
01-08-2022, 03:07 AM
The forums are an atrocity against communication and should have been taken out back years ago. Unfortunately, that's a lot of archival data would be lost. If I had to put my money where my mouth is, I bet it's a security vulnerability.

gilchristr
01-08-2022, 03:27 AM
I don't see the GMs suddenly being good at documentation and putting stuff up on the gswiki. If that was easy, why didn't they document things on the gswiki and simply reference links to it when posting on the forum or discord over the last few years?

I think it would be naive to expect that to improve in any significant way once the forums are deactivated

documenting / updating the gswiki has been viewed as, and will remain viewed as, poopy work ... crap that the less coding capable gms can maybe pick up when/if they have time

audioserf
01-08-2022, 07:43 AM
The forums are an atrocity against communication and should have been taken out back years ago. Unfortunately, that's a lot of archival data would be lost. If I had to put my money where my mouth is, I bet it's a security vulnerability.

This almost has to be it, and it's been deemed not worth the money or effort to build a replacement/fix the existing 1990s-ass forums.

AnOrdim
01-08-2022, 03:00 PM
This almost has to be it, and it's been deemed not worth the money or effort to build a replacement/fix the existing 1990s-ass forums.

LogGS4j

lexbubba
01-08-2022, 03:52 PM
This almost has to be it, and it's been deemed not worth the money or effort to build a replacement/fix the existing 1990s-ass forums.

If that was the case, why wouldn't they just be forthcoming with that fact. Seems like it is a reasonable answer that people could understand and accept and move on.

Rinualdo
01-08-2022, 03:55 PM
As a rule, you do not advertise a vulnerability on your still active servers.

Methais
01-08-2022, 04:12 PM
I blame Methais, who is overdue for his defenstration.

It's become clear now that Betty White was the only thing left standing in the way of Simu killing the officials.

Confirmed that Simu hates Betty White.

Orthin
01-08-2022, 04:38 PM
It's become clear now that Betty White was the only thing left standing in the way of Simu killing the officials.

Confirmed that Simu hates Betty White.

She was the Odin to our Simu Hela?

Methais
01-08-2022, 04:51 PM
This almost has to be it, and it's been deemed not worth the money or effort to build a replacement/fix the existing 1990s-ass forums.

It's more fun to act like they're trying to hide a huge archive of posts for conspiracy reasons though.

Methais
01-08-2022, 04:52 PM
She was the Odin to our Simu Hela?

Betty White dies, then the officials get axed.

You think that's a coincidence?

Fortybox
01-09-2022, 09:11 AM
Removing the forums and going 100% discord is easy. Here is what you do:

Step 1: Already know what the topic of announcement is. If you don’t know then you’re not paying attention anyways.
Step 2: Search discord for the announcement
Step 3: Narrow your search to the early morning hours
Step 4: Congrats! You’re now informed!

Mobius1
01-10-2022, 12:20 PM
I hate those forums so much, I don't even bother with them anymore. Good riddance.

Granted, my issues have little to do with how old and awful they are, but are due to some very specific people that frequent them and basically ruin any discussion by miring it in pointless arguments. It's some of the most toxic forums I have ever posted on, not so much in the traditional sense of toxicity, but because you simply can't discuss change there without having to swim through the muck and quicksand of people arguing to keep the status quo for no good reason aside from them simply enjoying arguing.

You could post about a good idea for monks, just to have some guy who doesn't even play a monk and doesn't even give two craps about monks, argue with you about why he thinks it's a bad idea.

Menos
01-10-2022, 12:50 PM
Darn right, being archaic is a feature of our chosen game. We're tech hipsters.

Tgo01
01-10-2022, 07:23 PM
I hate those forums so much, I don't even bother with them anymore. Good riddance.

Granted, my issues have little to do with how old and awful they are, but are due to some very specific people that frequent them and basically ruin any discussion by miring it in pointless arguments. It's some of the most toxic forums I have ever posted on, not so much in the traditional sense of toxicity, but because you simply can't discuss change there without having to swim through the muck and quicksand of people arguing to keep the status quo for no good reason aside from them simply enjoying arguing.

You could post about a good idea for monks, just to have some guy who doesn't even play a monk and doesn't even give two craps about monks, argue with you about why he thinks it's a bad idea.

You’re spot on. It’s been the same people basically running the officials and shutting down any legitimate discussion for decades. The craziest thing is they will argue over the most mundane thing in order to derail a conversation. You can have a perfectly valid point but maybe you said the sky is red during your post and they will harp on this one off hand comment for pages.

Problem is many of these people continue to do the same shit on Discord and I have a feeling the holdouts who never migrated to Discord from the officials will now finally make the move and make Discord even worse.

Viekn
01-10-2022, 08:22 PM
You’re spot on. It’s been the same people basically running the officials and shutting down any legitimate discussion for decades. The craziest thing is they will argue over the most mundane thing in order to derail a conversation. You can have a perfectly valid point but maybe you said the sky is red during your post and they will harp on this one off hand comment for pages.

Problem is many of these people continue to do the same shit on Discord and I have a feeling the holdouts who never migrated to Discord from the officials will now finally make the move and make Discord even worse.

Just a thought: The incessant political posts on the PC annoy a lot of us, but in a way, maybe it's that type of stuff that keeps the undesirable official forum people from coming over here and mucking up the GSIV discussions. Most of the GSIV talk here is at least productive and no one is trying to shut you down for proposing new ideas. So I guess...thank you TGo, PB, ClydeR, Seran, Methais, drauz, SHM, et al. (that's who I remember off the top of my head, don't come at me.)

Mobius1
01-10-2022, 08:52 PM
You’re spot on. It’s been the same people basically running the officials and shutting down any legitimate discussion for decades. The craziest thing is they will argue over the most mundane thing in order to derail a conversation. You can have a perfectly valid point but maybe you said the sky is red during your post and they will harp on this one off hand comment for pages.

Problem is many of these people continue to do the same shit on Discord and I have a feeling the holdouts who never migrated to Discord from the officials will now finally make the move and make Discord even worse.

Yeah, that is EXACTLY what they do. Most good ideas start out rough and need to be polished. Instead of helping improve on ideas, they simply tear them down as best they can.

Surprisingly, at least the GMs do hear the ideas anyways, at the very least, and they don't get completely lost in all the drivel. Though most of them do probably get lost in it....


Just a thought: The incessant political posts on the PC annoy a lot of us, but in a way, maybe it's that type of stuff that keeps the undesirable official forum people from coming over here and mucking up the GSIV discussions. Most of the GSIV talk here is at least productive and no one is trying to shut you down for proposing new ideas. So I guess...thank you TGo, PB, ClydeR, Seran, Methais, drauz, SHM, et al. (that's who I remember off the top of my head, don't come at me.)

I feel like crap like what happens on the officials doesn't really fly here because people won't put up with it. Without all the moderation, people here can expose those guys for what they are. Funny enough, those very same people will trash talk PC.

gilchristr
01-10-2022, 09:15 PM
Stupid arguments about minutia on the officals is bad. PC is good. I love you.

Tgo01
01-10-2022, 09:18 PM
I feel like crap like what happens on the officials doesn't really fly here because people won't put up with it. Without all the moderation, people here can expose those guys for what they are. Funny enough, those very same people will trash talk PC.

Yup. They are the exact definition of crybullies. They either have the GMs/mods in their pocket or they know exactly how far they can push things without running afoul of the rules and then just stand by while the mods ban/warn others for the exact same shit they themselves do.

SHAFT
01-10-2022, 09:30 PM
Stupid arguments about minutia on the officals is bad. PC is good. I love you.

PC is a ghost town though compared to years past. Kinda depressing.

Gelston
01-10-2022, 10:23 PM
PC is a ghost town though compared to years past. Kinda depressing.

Less people play and few people are going to stick around for non-GS shit. Some obviously did but that us very few people.

SHAFT
01-10-2022, 10:38 PM
Less people play and few people are going to stick around for non-GS shit. Some obviously did but that us very few people.

Still seems to be a solid number of people playing GS, though. Just wonder if people have moved to discord or they’re content not posting publicly here due to the harassment through rep?

Seems tough to conduct business through discord like you can through the Pc, so who knows.

Taernath
01-10-2022, 11:19 PM
Still seems to be a solid number of people playing GS, though. Just wonder if people have moved to discord or they’re content not posting publicly here due to the harassment through rep?

Seems tough to conduct business through discord like you can through the Pc, so who knows.

All of the above, probably. People move on from GS, and PC has gotten significantly chuddier in recent years. I think Discord has always had a discrete audience though.

Gelston
01-10-2022, 11:41 PM
Still seems to be a solid number of people playing GS, though. Just wonder if people have moved to discord or they’re content not posting publicly here due to the harassment through rep?

Seems tough to conduct business through discord like you can through the Pc, so who knows.

I think GS as a whole has chilled the fuck out. We all used to be younger back when these forums were kicking, so you'd have a lot more complaints and fights and shit being posted here. The average age of GS is quite a but higher now.

Tgo01
01-10-2022, 11:47 PM
Still seems to be a solid number of people playing GS, though.

Let's get real, when you do WHO and see 600 people on you have to figure at least 100 of those people are just alt accounts, probably 200+ and possibly even as high as 300+.

10 years ago when 600 people were on it wasn't as nearly many alt accounts.

gilchristr
01-10-2022, 11:51 PM
When GS fgets down to 1 player with 400+ alt accounts, we can finally play GS as it was meant to be played

SHAFT
01-10-2022, 11:55 PM
All of the above, probably. People move on from GS, and PC has gotten significantly chuddier in recent years. I think Discord has always had a discrete audience though.

Yeah I assume most people have multiple characters on at once.

Taernath
01-11-2022, 12:06 AM
When GS fgets down to 1 player with 400+ alt accounts, we can finally play GS as it was meant to be played

The way to play GS is to reactivate during the free months they hand out periodically, use all your LTE boosts you've accrued, then immediately cancel your sub.

I have a couple characters with 600+ LTEs banked, game basically plays itself while I'm away.

Tgo01
01-11-2022, 12:11 AM
498 characters are logged on right now, of which 22 are mine, meaning 4.5% of the characters logged on right now are all my characters.

Some times in the wee hours of the morning I account for almost 10% of the characters logged on.

I wouldn't doubt at all if 30-50% of the characters logged on at any given time are alts controlled by the same person.

So yeah, there may be a similar number of characters playing the game now as there were 10-12 years ago, but the number of players is dramatically less.

Shaps
01-11-2022, 12:18 AM
Holy shit.. how do you even keep track of 22 different accounts up at once???

I get having a hobby, but whew!

Impressive, but goddamn..

Gelston
01-11-2022, 12:24 AM
Holy shit.. how do you even keep track of 22 different accounts up at once???

I get having a hobby, but whew!

Impressive, but goddamn..

Scripts and having no life.

Tgo01
01-11-2022, 12:29 AM
Scripts and having no life.

Exactly.

...hey wait a minute!

time4fun
01-11-2022, 09:22 AM
This is really unfortunate.

Chat is great for sharing information in the moment, but it's a horrible way to communicate information that needs a longer shelf life.

This is going to be terrible, and most releases are going to go totally unnoticed by the larger population.

Tgo01
01-11-2022, 10:09 AM
most releases are going to go totally unnoticed by the larger population.

I agree. Hopefully they come up with a better system of relaying information to players other than Discord.

Mobius1
01-11-2022, 10:16 AM
Announcements channel in Discord works just fine for that. Since only GMs post chats there, it won't get lost so easily.

Methais
01-11-2022, 10:35 AM
I hate those forums so much, I don't even bother with them anymore. Good riddance.

Granted, my issues have little to do with how old and awful they are, but are due to some very specific people that frequent them and basically ruin any discussion by miring it in pointless arguments. It's some of the most toxic forums I have ever posted on, not so much in the traditional sense of toxicity, but because you simply can't discuss change there without having to swim through the muck and quicksand of people arguing to keep the status quo for no good reason aside from them simply enjoying arguing.

You could post about a good idea for monks, just to have some guy who doesn't even play a monk and doesn't even give two craps about monks, argue with you about why he thinks it's a bad idea.

TLDR: Doug and Krakii, probably :lol:

Methais
01-11-2022, 10:41 AM
Just a thought: The incessant political posts on the PC annoy a lot of us, but in a way, maybe it's that type of stuff that keeps the undesirable official forum people from coming over here and mucking up the GSIV discussions. Most of the GSIV talk here is at least productive and no one is trying to shut you down for proposing new ideas. So I guess...thank you TGo, PB, ClydeR, Seran, Methais, drauz, SHM, et al. (that's who I remember off the top of my head, don't come at me.)

The only reason I don't bother with GS discussions is because it's a pointless waste of time, at least if your goal is to get Estild to quit nerfing everything, and I pretty much give zero fucks about GS anymore other than for passing time at work, especially now that their plan is to basically nerf everybody and then tell us that things are "challenging" now.

That, and Discord requires you to stare at your screen 24/7 if you don't want to miss anything "important" since 99% of Discord is just babble and/or people wanting GM attention in front of other people.

Granted, politics threads here are a pointless waste of time too, but at least it's usually entertaining, plus you don't have to deal with the regular Simu sycophants who live on Discord, Estild and Naijin's masturbating, or stare at Discord 24/7 just to keep up with what's happening in case you miss a big "announcement" at 2:38am.

Discord is just the officials in chat room format.

drumpel
01-11-2022, 10:57 AM
Yup. They are the exact definition of crybullies. They either have the GMs/mods in their pocket or they know exactly how far they can push things without running afoul of the rules and then just stand by while the mods ban/warn others for the exact same shit they themselves do.

Also the official forums mod - he's a dick, at least to me. Always nitpicking my posts....what an ass.

I've seen people post using "WTF" or "what the ef?" and so on to not have posts pull and if I do something similar I get my post pulled for hidden vulgarity or whatever the fuck they call it. Playing favoritism for some of the posters on official is annoying as hell, but generally if you do word your posts well enough you can basically get away with telling the GMs to fuck off without getting your post pulled.

Krakii and Doug tend to be the most annoying posters on the officials for me. Half the time they make those off the wall comments and nitpick to derail the topic and the other half of the time they post the most nonsensical crap that came out of left field and makes no sense....almost as if they just want to be heard to be heard. To be honest, I don't think I've seen Doug post for a while......wonder if he's hiding or move on from the officials.....or if I just overlook his posts and don't even notice it anymore.

Mobius1
01-11-2022, 11:39 AM
TLDR: Doug and Krakii, probably :lol:

How did you guess? Funny how many reputation comments I got, calling them both out, rofl.

Glad to know it isn't just me who has had the same experience with them!

gilchristr
01-11-2022, 01:20 PM
Dont forget hippogrande. Its a given that i am not going to read the content of his posts, but he makes thread titles that seem like they could be GM posts. No name in red, avoid

Shaps
01-11-2022, 03:13 PM
I don't understand how/why they don't use the notification system in game more...

Should just have a command (ie. Upcoming) and it post anything OFFICIALLY decided upon (whether on Discord or wherever else) and uploaded in game.

That way someone can log on and type (Upcoming) and see decisions made on classes/systems/unannounced merchants etc.

I guess Discord is fine for discussions, but official announcements should be in game IMO.

Methais
01-11-2022, 05:07 PM
Also the official forums mod - he's a dick, at least to me. Always nitpicking my posts....what an ass.

I've seen people post using "WTF" or "what the ef?" and so on to not have posts pull and if I do something similar I get my post pulled for hidden vulgarity or whatever the fuck they call it. Playing favoritism for some of the posters on official is annoying as hell, but generally if you do word your posts well enough you can basically get away with telling the GMs to fuck off without getting your post pulled.

Krakii and Doug tend to be the most annoying posters on the officials for me. Half the time they make those off the wall comments and nitpick to derail the topic and the other half of the time they post the most nonsensical crap that came out of left field and makes no sense....almost as if they just want to be heard to be heard. To be honest, I don't think I've seen Doug post for a while......wonder if he's hiding or move on from the officials.....or if I just overlook his posts and don't even notice it anymore.

Aulis is a huge piece of shit who doesn't even try to hide it when he plays favorites.


How did you guess? Funny how many reputation comments I got, calling them both out, rofl.

Glad to know it isn't just me who has had the same experience with them!

I've watched them cancer up thread after thread after thread for decades on the officials. The funny thing is I don't think they ever do it intentionally, it just...happens....99% of the time.

Krakii's fun to troll though, because he somehow turns every thread into "Yeah well back in 1992 during GS2, things worked this way instead..."


Dont forget hippogrande. Its a given that i am not going to read the content of his posts, but he makes thread titles that seem like they could be GM posts. No name in red, avoid

I just want to know who his dealer is because that's gotta be some high quality shit.

Methais
01-11-2022, 05:08 PM
I don't understand how/why they don't use the notification system in game more...

Should just have a command (ie. Upcoming) and it post anything OFFICIALLY decided upon (whether on Discord or wherever else) and uploaded in game.

That way someone can log on and type (Upcoming) and see decisions made on classes/systems/unannounced merchants etc.

I guess Discord is fine for discussions, but official announcements should be in game IMO.

They literally have a NEWS verb that they almost never use anymore. Why? Because Simu.

"Wanna know what's happening in GS? Fuck you, figure it out yourself."

Gelston
01-11-2022, 05:21 PM
They literally have a NEWS verb that they almost never use anymore. Why? Because Simu.

"Wanna know what's happening in GS? Fuck you, figure it out yourself."

I used to use the news verb a lot. :(

Methais
01-11-2022, 05:22 PM
I used to use the news verb a lot. :(

You were probably the last one to use it.

Velfi
01-11-2022, 05:23 PM
You were probably the last one to use it.

I still use news 4 all the time. Get rekt.

Methais
01-11-2022, 05:24 PM
I still use news 4 all the time. Get rekt.

I meant GMs adding new NEWS items. Gelston used to be a GM.

Gelston
01-11-2022, 05:39 PM
I meant GMs adding new NEWS items. Gelston used to be a GM.

I used to use it as a mentor and a MHO officer too. I really think very few people read it. I honestly rarely did as a player.

Velfi
01-11-2022, 05:42 PM
I used to use it as a mentor and a MHO officer too. I really think very few people read it. I honestly rarely did as a player.

I just use it to double-check for CHE reports.

Fortybox
01-14-2022, 03:30 PM
This is really unfortunate.

Chat is great for sharing information in the moment, but it's a horrible way to communicate information that needs a longer shelf life.

This is going to be terrible, and most releases are going to go totally unnoticed by the larger population.

There is still the wiki and it’s actually not that bad. You just don’t like it because it’s one less thing you can hide behind because your approval ratings are worse than Biden/Harris.

Methais
01-14-2022, 04:40 PM
This is really unfortunate.

Chat is great for sharing information in the moment, but it's a horrible way to communicate information that needs a longer shelf life.

This is going to be terrible, and most releases are going to go totally unnoticed by the larger population.

You mean you can't be bothered to stare at Discord 24/7 just in case they mention something at like 3:32am and consider it an official announcement?

https://c.tenor.com/DEdK3qDoY0gAAAAC/joey-how-dare-you.gif

Tsk Tsk
01-14-2022, 04:52 PM
I'm surprised it took this long.

subzero
01-15-2022, 01:32 AM
PC is a ghost town though compared to years past. Kinda depressing.

https://c.tenor.com/RqymT3bO7PYAAAAM/skeleton-ghost.gif

Parkbandit
01-15-2022, 10:16 AM
PC is a ghost town though compared to years past. Kinda depressing.

Most users ever online was 1,691, 01-15-2020 at 01:24 AM.

Taernath
01-15-2022, 10:22 AM
Most users ever online was 1,691, 01-15-2020 at 01:24 AM.

90% of the guests on this board are bots.

Parkbandit
01-15-2022, 11:12 AM
90% of the guests on this board are bots.

86% of all stats are completely made up.

Tsk Tsk
01-17-2022, 09:59 AM
https://c.tenor.com/RqymT3bO7PYAAAAM/skeleton-ghost.gif

Honestly it's just people yelling at each other in the politics threads so I can see why most people (myself included) rarely frequent anymore.

Methais
01-17-2022, 10:07 AM
Honestly it's just people yelling at each other in the politics threads so I can see why most people (myself included) rarely frequent anymore.

It's almost as if people don't realize they can read and post in and create non-political threads.

Political threads have always been here. It's the number of GS threads that have gone down over time. A lot of people use the PC just for sales, which are noticeably less now with this ultra trash loot capped P2W focused economy, so that doesn't help either.

TLDR: It's Estild's fault.

SHAFT
01-17-2022, 10:20 AM
It's almost as if people don't realize they can read and post in and create non-political threads.

Political threads have always been here. It's the number of GS threads that have gone down over time. A lot of people use the PC just for sales, which are noticeably less now with this ultra trash loot capped P2W focused economy, so that doesn't help either.

TLDR: It's Estild's fault.

The nonstop harassment through the rep system is enough to make you never want to log into the PC though. Bunch of psychos.

Tsk Tsk
01-17-2022, 10:32 AM
It's almost as if people don't realize they can read and post in and create non-political threads.

Political threads have always been here. It's the number of GS threads that have gone down over time. A lot of people use the PC just for sales, which are noticeably less now with this ultra trash loot capped P2W focused economy, so that doesn't help either.

TLDR: It's Estild's fault.

It's not that people can't post other things but the uncivility absolutely bled into everything. Regardless, I completely agree once they killed the player economy that ruined things too. I recall when it was getting discussed and instantly thought, "oh shit, if you kill the player economy that's going to just completely obliterate why many people play." Their thinking was, "well, then we'll be left with more quality players that care about creativity and role play." But in truth, you need every player you can get in a dying game.

Tgo01
01-17-2022, 10:34 AM
The nonstop harassment through the rep system is enough to make you never want to log into the PC though. Bunch of psychos.

Words are violence!

Tgo01
01-17-2022, 10:35 AM
Their thinking was, "well, then we'll be left with more quality players that care about creativity and role play."

Do the GMs even care about roleplaying in this game anymore? They created the invoker in an effort to cancel a player driven event so people could interact even less with each other.

Methais
01-17-2022, 10:35 AM
The nonstop harassment through the rep system is enough to make you never want to log into the PC though. Bunch of psychos.

How are you being "harassed" on a page that you are in no way required to look at, and has about as much use/relevance/effect on the forums as fame does in GS, which is basically zero?

https://c.tenor.com/qiHDGX-mi7wAAAAM/butthurt-dontgetbutthurt.gif

Methais
01-17-2022, 10:38 AM
It's not that people can't post other things but the uncivility absolutely bled into everything. Regardless, I completely agree once they killed the player economy that ruined things too. I recall when it was getting discussed and instantly thought, "oh shit, if you kill the player economy that's going to just completely obliterate why many people play." Their thinking was, "well, then we'll be left with more quality players that care about creativity and role play." But in truth, you need every player you can get in a dying game.

Threads degenerating into completely off topic train wrecks has been a thing on the PC for its entire existence though and is in no way exclusive to the politics folder. It just stands out more now because there's not exactly a whole lot of GS related activity happening here anymore, which for the most part is Simu's fault for sucking.


Their thinking was, "well, then we'll be left with more quality players that care about creativity and role play." But in truth, you need every player you can get in a dying game.

Simu will never not be stupid or be overflowing with terrible game killing ideas. As if they give a shit about RP in a game where dev masturbates all day to thoughts of how much they can make on overpowered P2W items while simultaneously nerfing professions in the name of "game balance."

The worst part about that is there's still a segment of the player base that legitimately believes the shit Simu tells them despite them being notorious for being huge liars for decades.

Tsk Tsk
01-17-2022, 10:45 AM
Threads degenerating into completely off topic train wrecks has been a thing on the PC for its entire existence though and is in no way exclusive to the politics folder. It just stands out more now because there's not exactly a whole lot of GS related activity happening here anymore, which for the most part is Simu's fault for sucking.

I will agree with that, it used to be popcorn worthy when the drama happened but all that's left is drama and it's too much. I can find the culture war anywhere, there's nothing unique about this message board anymore.

Methais
01-17-2022, 11:07 AM
I will agree with that, it used to be popcorn worthy when the drama happened but all that's left is drama and it's too much. I can find the culture war anywhere, there's nothing unique about this message board anymore.

I don't disagree. But to be fair, we are talking about a forum for a 30 year old text game that should have been buried years ago.

Overall though, I think most threads here being political speaks more about the state of GS than the state of the forums, even if you factor in that political bullshit is everywhere these days.

Shaps
01-17-2022, 11:57 AM
Agreed. I know I keep up in the politics folder, but that's mainly because 1. It's fun to mess with batshit crazy people and 2. There is hardly any new information/data/conversation held on these forums.

Everyone moved over to Discord? it seems... Events are all currency/hour using scripts... Majority of data for all systems has been posted to Wiki, and scripts created for them... and the marketplace is completely demolished from the multitude of decisions they've made to support the Pay-2-Win model.

RP? Every now and then you'll find some to be had, but 90%+ of people logged in are just focused on XP/silver per hour and could care less about anything else.

So - I'd love the forums to have wonderful conversations like in the past... but seems like that time has past.

Mobius1
01-17-2022, 12:26 PM
Just do what I do.....never open the politics folder.

drumpel
01-17-2022, 12:47 PM
Making a post on the official forums:

Problem

I have this problem and it causes this issue.


One of the first responses is:


Krakii
Back in 1992 this sort of thing wasn't a problem because of how the system did it. How the system works now isn't ideal, but the problem is with how you're using it and not the game itself. I don't feel this is an issue and it worked well years ago and it's okay now.


Then another response pops up:

Doug
You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.

As you were undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly is systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the Anomaly revealed as both beginning... and end.


Now you're left thinking this about those two posts: What the fuck do they even mean?



Frustrated so you post your issue on PC, hoping someone might have an answer better than Doug or Krakii.

Your responses here tend to be a mix of helpful and downright awful, almost Krakii & Doug level - incoherent, convoluted or even contradictory of what you're asking. Then you get folks that seem think branching off your topic to stupid political crap or rants about how X person is bad and then X person shows up and the topic goes even more off the rails.....

At least on the officials, even if you have a few fucking retards that derail things, you can sometimes, genuinely, get an honest response from a GM - even if you have to pull it out of them.

I'm hoping something at least as useful as the officials are is used to replace the current official forums. Solely relying on PC or Discord to find useful information won't be viable for some people that still enjoy finding information in one, albeit not easy to navigate or search through, location. Here's hoping that Simu gets something better going.

mgoddess
01-17-2022, 12:59 PM
Just do what I do.....never open the politics folder.

+100

(I have the whole "Socializing" part of the forums minimized, and I don't use the "New Threads/Posts" function, which gives me a very nice, mostly-elegant, experience.)

Methais
01-17-2022, 01:09 PM
Making a post on the official forums:

Problem

I have this problem and it causes this issue.


One of the first responses is:


Krakii
Back in 1992 this sort of thing wasn't a problem because of how the system did it. How the system works now isn't ideal, but the problem is with how you're using it and not the game itself. I don't feel this is an issue and it worked well years ago and it's okay now.


Then another response pops up:

Doug
You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.

As you were undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly is systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the Anomaly revealed as both beginning... and end.


Now you're left thinking this about those two posts: What the fuck do they even mean?



Frustrated so you post your issue on PC, hoping someone might have an answer better than Doug or Krakii.

Your responses here tend to be a mix of helpful and downright awful, almost Krakii & Doug level - incoherent, convoluted or even contradictory of what you're asking. Then you get folks that seem think branching off your topic to stupid political crap or rants about how X person is bad and then X person shows up and the topic goes even more off the rails.....

At least on the officials, even if you have a few fucking retards that derail things, you can sometimes, genuinely, get an honest response from a GM - even if you have to pull it out of them.

I'm hoping something at least as useful as the officials are is used to replace the current official forums. Solely relying on PC or Discord to find useful information won't be viable for some people that still enjoy finding information in one, albeit not easy to navigate or search through, location. Here's hoping that Simu gets something better going.

Remember the boring book from King's Quest VI (https://youtu.be/EvrZ5haT9rE?t=3630)? That's what reading a Doug post is like.

https://i.imgur.com/7zGcyo1.png
https://i.imgur.com/sCxCiL2.png

SHAFT
01-17-2022, 02:03 PM
How are you being "harassed" on a page that you are in no way required to look at, and has about as much use/relevance/effect on the forums as fame does in GS, which is basically zero?

https://c.tenor.com/qiHDGX-mi7wAAAAM/butthurt-dontgetbutthurt.gif

Alright we get it, you love the ability to be abusive without consequences on the internet. May you always and forever have the gemstone players corner. Catharsis is important ����

Methais
01-17-2022, 02:16 PM
Alright we get it, you love the ability to be abusive without consequences on the internet. May you always and forever have the gemstone players corner. Catharsis is important ����

I literally just got done saying that reputation is as useless here as fame is in GS, which I've always said both are useless as fuck, and your response is to double down on butthurt while simultaneously projecting your own catharsis.

Perhaps you've gotten a lot of red rep over the years because you've made a lot of posts being a shitty and wildly hypocritical cunt while sniffing your own farts, conveniently after Trump got elected if I'm remembering correctly? Just a wild guess.

Tell me though, what specifically is this "abuse" you're suffering from on a 30 year old text game forum, and what effects it is having on you?

https://i.imgur.com/8fzY07d.jpg

Neveragain
01-17-2022, 02:18 PM
Alright we get it, you love the ability to be abusive without consequences on the internet. May you always and forever have the gemstone players corner. Catharsis is important ����

https://i.imgur.com/QH3FkTT.gif

Taernath
01-17-2022, 02:24 PM
Yep, total mystery why more folks don't post here.

Methais
01-17-2022, 04:01 PM
Yep, total mystery why more folks don't post here.

I know right? It's like as soon as you load up the PC, the political threads just click themselves and won't allow you to view or post anything else until all political thread have been read.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with GS being a total shitshow for the past several years and steadily getting dumber either.

Tgo01
01-17-2022, 07:48 PM
Even the Discord server isn't very active, and that's a real time chat room.

Maybe it's possible not as many people play the game anymore and most people when they quit the game stop posting on the officials, the PC, and Discord.

Realk
01-17-2022, 08:23 PM
My take aways are that Doug watched the first matrix more than once.

Roblar
01-17-2022, 09:39 PM
Even the Discord server isn't very active


https://media.giphy.com/media/8b9Xax6L7qtAkAimGm/giphy.gif

It's highly active. Maybe you didn't authenticate your acounts to access the other 100 channels.

Tgo01
01-17-2022, 09:52 PM
It's highly active. Maybe you didn't authenticate your acounts to access the other 100 channels.

It's just not really that active.

They created a gajillion different channels just like they did on the officials, and many of the channels rarely have any chats, again just like the officials.

The wizard channel hasn't had any posts all day. Paladin channel hasn't had a post in 3 days. Zul-Logoth channel doesn't have any posts at all. Ta'Illistim has had 1 post in a week. Now granted those are the lesser used channels.

The general channel has had 36 different chats all day today among 10 different people.

The help channel also has had 36 different chats all day today among 12 different people, 3 of which were the same active people in the general channel.

That's really not that active for an official real time chat room, and unless there is a major announcement that is pissing off a lot of people most of the more active channels have similar numbers, and the less active channels are getting a few posts a day or fewer.

Discord is for sure more active than the PC, but people in this thread are acting like it's just the PC that isn't receiving much traffic these days because people are meanie heads here, when the more likely explanation is the player base as a whole is down and thus fewer people are posting here, on the officials, and on Discord.

Roblar
01-17-2022, 10:07 PM
Dunno, too much to keep up with.

Realk
01-17-2022, 11:36 PM
Dunno, too much to keep up with.


that's why I and probably others think it's a bad idea.. Dreaven is right it could be slow for days.. and Blow up one afternoon when 5 buddies start chatting. I kinda get that they couldn't do that in the announcement folder... but it's discord not a forum.. I tend to clear out messages that dont pertain to anything I care about to make the notifcations stop. I didnt like the officials and havent been there since i was in highschool in 2000.. but i've never really had anything to say on discord either. imho to make this work even half way decently they'd need to make the wiki easier to navigate and pin a lot of posts on the discord.. which takes a person to do... rather than a forum that anyone could read in their down time

gilchristr
01-17-2022, 11:42 PM
They should just litter flyers all over the landing with information on new game mechanics. I could keep them in my backpack on one of my alt, and look things up that way. There would be trash heaps of discarded flyers all over the landing, perfect

Tgo01
01-17-2022, 11:46 PM
Yeah Discord is horrible for relaying important changes. Just looking at the general-announcements channel makes my eyes bleed. There isn't any sort of order or categories or anything that would make slogging through the announcements easier, instead it's just a bunch of words and links to a soon-to-be-discontinued forum.

The officials were for sure a mess, but at least you had a place to discuss official changes to the game and you could read all of the related posts and not just a bunch of random chats from people in a real time chat room.

The wiki is great if you want to look up information on a subject you already know about, but it's not a place for discussion and it's kind of mess for showing recent changes.

I don't know why they are closing down the officials without having a new forum ready to go. Seems like a bad decision in a long line of bad decisions these past few years.

Parkbandit
01-18-2022, 08:21 AM
The nonstop harassment through the rep system is enough to make you never want to log into the PC though. Bunch of psychos.

This is my favorite post in this thread.

You poor thing you... you are being harassed!

Parkbandit
01-18-2022, 08:22 AM
Do the GMs even care about roleplaying in this game anymore? They created the invoker in an effort to cancel a player driven event so people could interact even less with each other.

They haven't cared about roleplaying in 25 years.

Parkbandit
01-18-2022, 08:24 AM
I will agree with that, it used to be popcorn worthy when the drama happened but all that's left is drama and it's too much. I can find the culture war anywhere, there's nothing unique about this message board anymore.

The drama left because most people "play" GS via scripts and roleplaying is basically non-existent.

You turn on the game, start a script and watch youtube on the other monitor.

Not much drama in that unless you miss a script check.. OMG THEN IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

time4fun
01-18-2022, 10:14 AM
They should just litter flyers all over the landing with information on new game mechanics. I could keep them in my backpack on one of my alt, and look things up that way. There would be trash heaps of discarded flyers all over the landing, perfect

Actually I kind of love this idea

Mobius1
01-18-2022, 01:22 PM
Lol, GS is fine and seems healthier to me lately, population wise, than it did the last time I played. The development has also been nice.

Of course the PTW crap is disgustingly bad. But I try to look on the bright side even with that BS - At least it helps ensure the game will keep going on, since those people aren't going to want to quit any time soon after dropping that kind of cash into it.

Bhaalizmo
01-18-2022, 02:54 PM
This is my favorite post in this thread.

You poor thing you... you are being harassed!

Said the forums most prolific rep abuser innocently.

Neveragain
01-18-2022, 03:05 PM
Said the forums most prolific rep abuser innocently.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/l0jallZeqZdIj4tfHz/giphy.gif

Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-18-2022, 04:27 PM
Said the forums most prolific rep abuser innocently.

I mean, if we are calling people out... you spent 10-12 months looking for old posts of mine to neg rep while I wasn't posting here.

Methais
01-18-2022, 04:31 PM
Said the forums most prolific rep abuser innocently.

I'd love to hear your definition of "rep abuse" because I know it's just going to be oozing with butthurt.

Methais
01-18-2022, 04:50 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/l0jallZeqZdIj4tfHz/giphy.gif


I mean, if we are calling people out... you spent 10-12 months looking for old posts of mine to neg rep while I wasn't posting here.


Bhaalizmo always gets mad about rep when he gets put back in red because he knows his gray rep is even more useless than rep in general already is.

Parkbandit
01-18-2022, 06:41 PM
Said the forums most prolific rep abuser innocently.

"YOU'RE ABUSING THE REPUTATION SYSTEM!" -Bhaalizmo 2022

Your post is in the running for the dumbest post in 2022 Bhaalizmo.

Also, little known fact.. until you were turned red, you had given me more rep comments than I had given you.

Also, little known fact.. you gave me the first red rep. I didn't even know who you were... except someone who was constantly posting pics of girls you had no chance / no desire to land.

So... you must believe that you are harassing me.. and abusing the system?

You're probably too fucking stupid to know how hypocritical you are.

Tgo01
01-19-2022, 09:56 PM
Said the forums most prolific rep abuser innocently.

Dude, you have left me about 140 negative rep comments in the past year. Maybe don't throw those stones.

Here are some of your more colorful rep comments:

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Just a reminder, stfu dumbass.
tard
dumbass.
Kind of hilarious you're so fucking retarded.
stfu dumbass
Retard.
Retard. -Your mom
Retard.
Retard.
Retard.
Dumbass.
stfu dumbass
eat dick
stfu dumbass
dumbass.
Retard.
Retard.
Retard.
You. Retard.
Retard.
Retard.
Retard. -Everyone
tard
Retard.
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And here is a death threat you sent to me via the rep system: "You're a fucking idiot. Die soon."

"I don't get it! Everyone else on the PC is so mean! But not me!" -- Liar Bhaalizmo

Realk
01-19-2022, 10:08 PM
not that I'd say it's a very nice thing to say, but it's not a threat.. just a request I think.. PC isnt the fix to the officials shutting down because of the animosity that is all over. People that love discord and real time chatting with gms late at night that think it's the best ever arent going to say discord is a bad option. By making you log into the discord name under your character name was the first step in making sure you didn't step out of line in a gemstone discord channel it wasnt about purging old players at all.

Tgo01
01-19-2022, 10:31 PM
not that I'd say it's a very nice thing to say, but it's not a threat.. just a request I think..

People have been sent to jail over much less.


PC isnt the fix to the officials shutting down because of the animosity that is all over. People that love discord and real time chatting with gms late at night that think it's the best ever arent going to say discord is a bad option. By making you log into the discord name under your character name was the first step in making sure you didn't step out of line in a gemstone discord channel it wasnt about purging old players at all.

I would argue that Discord is just as toxic, if not more so, than the PC. It's very similar to the officials; if you're not a part of the approved clique, or you have the audacity to be vocal in your opposition to something that most people are in favor of, then you are subjected to derision and ridicule, it's just much more passive-aggressive than the PC is. I have seen people on Discord remain quiet or go along with the mob when I know they don't agree with what's going on, and the only reason is because they know how the mob would react to dissent.

I do agree that linking your in game character to Discord was just another way for the GMs to control discussion. Honestly with their history of demanding a heavily moderated environment before they will discuss things at said place, I'm surprised it took them as long as it did to implement the character/Discord link thingie.

Mobius1
01-19-2022, 10:46 PM
Lol, I always go against the mob. But just like officials, there's a couple people that really ruin the Discord experience, and I'm sure you know exactly who I am talking about.

Menos
01-20-2022, 07:31 AM
I would find the notion of migrating announcements to the wiki way more reassuring if they made the wiki up to date and useful (IE not shit) BEFORE making it the main avenue for information. Go look up the info available for anything that has come out in the last 6 months and try and honestly say it has the info you would need to understand the system. At least on the forums some players might have asked and answered the same questions you have.

Tgo01
01-20-2022, 07:39 AM
I would find the notion of migrating announcements to the wiki way more reassuring if they made the wiki up to date and useful (IE not shit) BEFORE making it the main avenue for information. Go look up the info available for anything that has come out in the last 6 months and try and honestly say it has the info you would need to understand the system. At least on the forums some players might have asked and answered the same questions you have.

Earlier I said the Wiki was a good source of information if you already knew the subject you wanted to look up (like you know about the stat "Influence" but you wanted to look it up on the Wiki to get all of the information about it), but after looking up a few things recently I have realized it's not even necessarily good for that.

Like I said look up "Influence" on the wiki and you would see the information isn't complete at all. It makes no mention of Influence affecting 330 at all, and that's because according to the page it was last updated: 19 May 2019, at 15:18.

The information on this page is almost 3 years old. But then again the semi-volunteer GMs are relying on player-volunteers to keep the wiki updated so stuff like this is to be expected.

audioserf
01-20-2022, 08:42 AM
not that I'd say it's a very nice thing to say, but it's not a threat.. just a request I think.. PC isnt the fix to the officials shutting down because of the animosity that is all over. People that love discord and real time chatting with gms late at night that think it's the best ever arent going to say discord is a bad option. By making you log into the discord name under your character name was the first step in making sure you didn't step out of line in a gemstone discord channel it wasnt about purging old players at all.

That feature was implemented specifically because of one broke brained fuck who was constantly trolling #mechanics and ended up making a meme using Estild's IRL photo and posting it, which is about the dumbest and most out of line shit you could think of doing. Not long after that they required authentication.

Bhaalizmo
01-20-2022, 09:57 AM
I mean, if we are calling people out... you spent 10-12 months looking for old posts of mine to neg rep while I wasn't posting here.

While that is partially true, I'll clarify. I haven't ever searched out your posts personally to rep them, my process was just to scroll through old threads looking for posts that let me rep them, in order to cycle through the system. I admit to cycling through rep in order to regain the ability to neg rep PB who leaves me the most lengthy, usually sexual in nature, personal attacks in rep as often as possible. I was merely cycling through rep because it won't let you re-rep the same people unless you spread it around. It's not hard to build a list of a half dozen folks who seem to support everything PB says around here, and I landed you on it for awhile.

I apologize Suppa Hobbit Mage, I took you off that list months ago. I was just cycling through rep order to regain the ability to red rep PB because he appears to me to be a malicious hateful douchebag, as evidenced by his history of posting here, including the personal attack threads, and so on. I'm not going to go down a chicken / egg debate on who repped who first between PB and I, because I honestly don't care that much to invest the time. I'll continue to red rep him whenever I'm green because he's obviously a hateful insecure disapproving "get off my lawn" kind of old man, and well it just amusing to oppose that. The way that I'm cycling through rep in order to game this system, is clearly the same thing PB has to do in order to be able to leave me the rep he does as frequently as he does. It's a feature of the forum, and if they didn't want it enabled, they'd disable it.

Back on my original point of PB being the most prolific abuser of the rep system, the evidence is in my rep comments from him, as well as in the rep history of Ashliana, Back, AndroidPK, Leifastagsweed, Solkern, Seran, Time4fun. Not to mention anyone else who ever directly opposed PB on a political topic. The number of negative reps given out, and more to the point the content of them, makes him my nomination for rep abuser / "retard champion" (to use his own term) of the forum.

It doesn't hurt, in my butt or my black heart. I'm not upset about it. It's just a feature on this forum that I'll continue to use as I'm able to oppose the resident douchebag. That is all.

Bhaalizmo
01-20-2022, 10:01 AM
Dude, you have left me about 140 negative rep comments in the past year. Maybe don't throw those stones.

Here are some of your more colorful rep comments:

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Just a reminder, stfu dumbass.
tard
dumbass.
Kind of hilarious you're so fucking retarded.
stfu dumbass
Retard.
Retard. -Your mom
Retard.
Retard.
Retard.
Dumbass.
stfu dumbass
eat dick
stfu dumbass
dumbass.
Retard.
Retard.
Retard.
You. Retard.
Retard.
Retard.
Retard. -Everyone
tard
Retard.


To be fair, you are a fucking idiot. The most common thread tag in use on this forum is "TGO1 is a fucking idiot", and it was there before I ever started repping you. It's on almost every thread in the Politics forum, and it's really hard to find a thread without a tag naming you by name. It's almost as if it's a reaction to what you put out. <gasp>

Tgo01
01-20-2022, 10:29 AM
To be fair, you are a fucking idiot. The most common thread tag in use on this forum is "TGO1 is a fucking idiot", and it was there before I ever started repping you. It's on almost every thread in the Politics forum, and it's really hard to find a thread without a tag naming you by name. It's almost as if it's a reaction to what you put out. <gasp>

Well since we're going with the logic that thread tags = fact, here are some thread tags I found:

bhaalizmo=pedophile
bhaalizmo=gay racist
bhaalizmo=pedophile

According to your logic you are a racist pedophile and this is now a proven fact because people are reacting to what you put out in the form of creating thread tags.

All you had to do was say "My bad! I am a huge hypocrite for giving other people shit for the exact same thing I do!" But that's not you is it? Oh no! Bhaalizmo has to double down on his special brand of nonsense!

Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-20-2022, 10:57 AM
I apologize Suppa Hobbit Mage, I took you off that list months ago.

Fair enough and I accept the apology.

Gelston
01-20-2022, 10:58 AM
Rep isn't serious business anyways. I almost never use it. I don't think my rep has cycled in the past year.

Neveragain
01-20-2022, 11:24 AM
While that is partially true, I'll clarify. I haven't ever searched out your posts personally to rep them, my process was just to scroll through old threads looking for posts that let me rep them, in order to cycle through the system. I admit to cycling through rep in order to regain the ability to neg rep PB who leaves me the most lengthy, usually sexual in nature, personal attacks in rep as often as possible. I was merely cycling through rep because it won't let you re-rep the same people unless you spread it around. It's not hard to build a list of a half dozen folks who seem to support everything PB says around here, and I landed you on it for awhile.

I apologize Suppa Hobbit Mage, I took you off that list months ago. I was just cycling through rep order to regain the ability to red rep PB because he appears to me to be a malicious hateful douchebag, as evidenced by his history of posting here, including the personal attack threads, and so on. I'm not going to go down a chicken / egg debate on who repped who first between PB and I, because I honestly don't care that much to invest the time. I'll continue to red rep him whenever I'm green because he's obviously a hateful insecure disapproving "get off my lawn" kind of old man, and well it just amusing to oppose that. The way that I'm cycling through rep in order to game this system, is clearly the same thing PB has to do in order to be able to leave me the rep he does as frequently as he does. It's a feature of the forum, and if they didn't want it enabled, they'd disable it.

Back on my original point of PB being the most prolific abuser of the rep system, the evidence is in my rep comments from him, as well as in the rep history of Ashliana, Back, AndroidPK, Leifastagsweed, Solkern, Seran, Time4fun. Not to mention anyone else who ever directly opposed PB on a political topic. The number of negative reps given out, and more to the point the content of them, makes him my nomination for rep abuser / "retard champion" (to use his own term) of the forum.

It doesn't hurt, in my butt or my black heart. I'm not upset about it. It's just a feature on this forum that I'll continue to use as I'm able to oppose the resident douchebag. That is all.

I think you can be certain that, after this wall of gay, you will never have to worry about being able to give red rep again.

Methais
01-20-2022, 12:00 PM
"YOU'RE ABUSING THE REPUTATION SYSTEM!" -Bhaalizmo 2022

Your post is in the running for the dumbest post in 2022 Bhaalizmo.

Also, little known fact.. until you were turned red, you had given me more rep comments than I had given you.

Also, little known fact.. you gave me the first red rep. I didn't even know who you were... except someone who was constantly posting pics of girls you had no chance / no desire to land.

So... you must believe that you are harassing me.. and abusing the system?

You're probably too fucking stupid to know how hypocritical you are.

This is all correct and applies to me too. I had no clue who this tard was until he started spamming me with rep. Then I was like "Oh yeah that's that weird creepy guy who's been spamming the Shattered thread for like a decade with his daily fap material."

And now that he can't spam red rep anymore, he's is super mad about it and suddenly he's a victim. Even more mad than he is over his only friend Ashliana getting banned for being cancer.

That's what Bhaalizmo gets for trying to be an abuser.

Stay red, Pwnyboy.

Methais
01-20-2022, 12:03 PM
not that I'd say it's a very nice thing to say, but it's not a threat.. just a request I think.. PC isnt the fix to the officials shutting down because of the animosity that is all over. People that love discord and real time chatting with gms late at night that think it's the best ever arent going to say discord is a bad option. By making you log into the discord name under your character name was the first step in making sure you didn't step out of line in a gemstone discord channel it wasnt about purging old players at all.

The whole problem with Discord is the way Simu also considers random mentions in the middle of the night as an official announcement for whatever changed/got nerfed/etc. and they think that's totally ok.

Player at 2:32am: Hey Estild, X skill is acting weird, did something change?

Estild: 2:38am: We fixed a bug that was having Y affect on X about 6 months ago.


17 weeks later...

Another player: Hey Estild, what's up with X did it get nerfed?

Estild: That change was announced in Discord 17 Tuesdays ago.


They've since added an announcement channel though, so that's at least a step in the right direction, assuming they actually use it correctly and announce every change instead of just the changes they feel like announcing.

Tgo01
01-20-2022, 12:10 PM
This is all correct and applies to me too. I had no clue who this tard was until he started spamming me with rep. Then I was like "Oh yeah that's that weird creepy guy who's been spamming the Shattered thread for like a decade with his daily fap material."

And now that he can't spam red rep anymore, he's is super mad about it and suddenly he's a victim. Even more mad than he is over his only friend Ashliana getting banned for being cancer.

That's what Bhaalizmo gets for trying to be an abuser.

Stay red, Pwnyboy.

I have given Bhaalizmo a whole 5 neg rep comments between 1.5 and 2+ years ago, and in the last 12 months the dude has given me over 140 neg rep comments and now is in this thread calling other people "prolific rep abusers."

Parkbandit
01-20-2022, 12:15 PM
While that is partially true, I'll clarify. I haven't ever searched out your posts personally to rep them, my process was just to scroll through old threads looking for posts that let me rep them, in order to cycle through the system. I admit to cycling through rep in order to regain the ability to neg rep PB who leaves me the most lengthy, usually sexual in nature, personal attacks in rep as often as possible. I was merely cycling through rep because it won't let you re-rep the same people unless you spread it around. It's not hard to build a list of a half dozen folks who seem to support everything PB says around here, and I landed you on it for awhile.

I apologize Suppa Hobbit Mage, I took you off that list months ago. I was just cycling through rep order to regain the ability to red rep PB because he appears to me to be a malicious hateful douchebag, as evidenced by his history of posting here, including the personal attack threads, and so on. I'm not going to go down a chicken / egg debate on who repped who first between PB and I, because I honestly don't care that much to invest the time. I'll continue to red rep him whenever I'm green because he's obviously a hateful insecure disapproving "get off my lawn" kind of old man, and well it just amusing to oppose that. The way that I'm cycling through rep in order to game this system, is clearly the same thing PB has to do in order to be able to leave me the rep he does as frequently as he does. It's a feature of the forum, and if they didn't want it enabled, they'd disable it.

Back on my original point of PB being the most prolific abuser of the rep system, the evidence is in my rep comments from him, as well as in the rep history of Ashliana, Back, AndroidPK, Leifastagsweed, Solkern, Seran, Time4fun. Not to mention anyone else who ever directly opposed PB on a political topic. The number of negative reps given out, and more to the point the content of them, makes him my nomination for rep abuser / "retard champion" (to use his own term) of the forum.

It doesn't hurt, in my butt or my black heart. I'm not upset about it. It's just a feature on this forum that I'll continue to use as I'm able to oppose the resident douchebag. That is all.

LOL. That is a lot of words to say "PB HURT MY FEE FEES!"

I couldn't be happier to know that I have caused you THIS much distress and feelings of being super upset.

Keep using the feature on this forum... but stop crying like the little faggot you are that someone is abusing it.. when you are doing the exact same thing.

Pussy ass little bitch.

Methais
01-20-2022, 12:16 PM
While that is partially true, I'll clarify. I haven't ever searched out your posts personally to rep them, my process was just to scroll through old threads looking for posts that let me rep them, in order to cycle through the system. I admit to cycling through rep in order to regain the ability to neg rep PB who leaves me the most lengthy, usually sexual in nature, personal attacks in rep as often as possible. I was merely cycling through rep because it won't let you re-rep the same people unless you spread it around. It's not hard to build a list of a half dozen folks who seem to support everything PB says around here, and I landed you on it for awhile.

I apologize Suppa Hobbit Mage, I took you off that list months ago. I was just cycling through rep order to regain the ability to red rep PB because he appears to me to be a malicious hateful douchebag, as evidenced by his history of posting here, including the personal attack threads, and so on. I'm not going to go down a chicken / egg debate on who repped who first between PB and I, because I honestly don't care that much to invest the time. I'll continue to red rep him whenever I'm green because he's obviously a hateful insecure disapproving "get off my lawn" kind of old man, and well it just amusing to oppose that. The way that I'm cycling through rep in order to game this system, is clearly the same thing PB has to do in order to be able to leave me the rep he does as frequently as he does. It's a feature of the forum, and if they didn't want it enabled, they'd disable it.

Back on my original point of PB being the most prolific abuser of the rep system, the evidence is in my rep comments from him, as well as in the rep history of Ashliana, Back, AndroidPK, Leifastagsweed, Solkern, Seran, Time4fun. Not to mention anyone else who ever directly opposed PB on a political topic. The number of negative reps given out, and more to the point the content of them, makes him my nomination for rep abuser / "retard champion" (to use his own term) of the forum.

It doesn't hurt, in my butt or my black heart. I'm not upset about it. It's just a feature on this forum that I'll continue to use as I'm able to oppose the resident douchebag. That is all.

TLDR: "It's ok when I do it but not when other people do it!!!!!! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111"



I have given Bhaalizmo a whole 5 neg rep comments between 1.5 and 2+ years ago, and in the last 12 months the dude has given me over 140 neg rep comments and now is in this thread calling other people "prolific rep abusers."

Some of his posts make me legitimately wonder if Ashliana is using him as a proxy and has him posting on his behalf. :lol:

Parkbandit
01-20-2022, 12:19 PM
I have given Bhaalizmo a whole 5 neg rep comments between 1.5 and 2+ years ago, and in the last 12 months the dude has given me over 140 neg rep comments and now is in this thread calling other people "prolific rep abusers."

In his defense.. he probably has no idea that he is a gigantic hypocrite... because he has zero self awareness and he's retarded.

Bhaalizmo
01-20-2022, 03:48 PM
And here is a death threat you sent to me via the rep system: "You're a fucking idiot. Die soon."

"I don't get it! Everyone else on the PC is so mean! But not me!" -- Liar Bhaalizmo

It's really telling that you're calling a negative rep comment like that a death threat.

You are a cavernous vagina of a man, always on the lookout for the next thing that makes you a victim.

There are reasons, that I'm sure you could come up with if you dug through your posting history, that the most popular tags in use on this forum are against and about you.

Bhaalizmo
01-20-2022, 03:55 PM
I think you can be certain that, after this wall of gay, you will never have to worry about being able to give red rep again.

https://c.tenor.com/rYSBKEcela4AAAAC/sure-klan.gif

I think you can be certain that I don't give two shits about rep, and no shits about anything your dumbass has to add.

Parkbandit
01-20-2022, 04:10 PM
I think you can be certain that I don't give two shits about rep, and no shits about anything your dumbass has to add.

For someone who claims he doesn't give a shit about rep.. you sure seem to care a great deal about rep.

It warms my heart knowing how upset you are about it.

Thank you for that.

Just to recap...

1) Bhaalizmo is all about posting half naked girls he could never have / never want.. so much so that he has a decade long thread showing his creepy fetish.
2) Bhaalizmo is still very upset by the results of the 2016 election which put his mental illness on full display.
3) Bhaalizmo is extremely upset by getting red reputation comments by me specifically.

Suppressed Poet
01-20-2022, 10:25 PM
PC is a ghost town though compared to years past. Kinda depressing.

I took a 7ish year hiatus but came back for some nostalgia. Hey you still got any of those clever soft core bouncing @$$ n TD gifs? That was you right?

Tgo01
01-20-2022, 10:25 PM
It's really telling that you're calling a negative rep comment like that a death threat.

You are a cavernous vagina of a man, always on the lookout for the next thing that makes you a victim.

There are reasons, that I'm sure you could come up with if you dug through your posting history, that the most popular tags in use on this forum are against and about you.

Right. “Die soon” isn’t a death threat. You’re like a 10 old telling another person that someone should beat the shit out of them then saying “I didn’t threaten you! I just said SOMEONE should beat the shit out of you, I didn’t say I was gonna do it!”

Bhaalizmo
01-20-2022, 10:37 PM
Right. “Die soon” isn’t a death threat. You’re like a 10 old telling another person that someone should beat the shit out of them then saying “I didn’t threaten you! I just said SOMEONE should beat the shit out of you, I didn’t say I was gonna do it!”

Remember that time when I made a joke about blowing an implied load of jizz in your mom's face and you then said that I threatened to kill her? Lulz.

Pepperidge farms remembers.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/fg9c6gu2NwyWs/giphy.gif?cid=82a1493bgtcdk59yu0xygsfw5pquyzlbjbki 2ml59xl61c7j&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Tgo01
01-20-2022, 10:47 PM
Remember that time when I made a joke about blowing an implied load of jizz in your mom's face and you then said that I threatened to kill her? Lulz.

Pepperidge farms remembers.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/fg9c6gu2NwyWs/giphy.gif?cid=82a1493bgtcdk59yu0xygsfw5pquyzlbjbki 2ml59xl61c7j&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

I actually don't. Why don't you re-post what you said? I'm assuming it was probably yet another death threat that you then walked back by claiming "No, gais! I was totally just being really mature and saying I was gonna blow some jizz on his mom's face! LOL! I'm so funny and cleaver! Please give me green rep in my thread I have dedicated to objectifying women!"

Let me guess, this also isn't a death threat that I have received in rep comments: "Go kill yourself you fucking piece of shit. I hope you die like your dad."

Amazing how the people who do the most crying about neg rep comments often leave the nastiest neg rep comments then try to downplay them after the comments are linked to them in public.

Parkbandit
01-21-2022, 08:29 AM
Amazing how the people who do the most crying about neg rep comments often leave the nastiest neg rep comments then try to downplay them after the comments are linked to them in public.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/dXFKDUolyLLi8gq6Cl/giphy.gif

Bhaalizmo
01-21-2022, 08:46 AM
I actually don't. Why don't you re-post what you said? I'm assuming it was probably yet another death threat that you then walked back by claiming "No, gais! I was totally just being really mature and saying I was gonna blow some jizz on his mom's face! LOL! I'm so funny and cleaver! Please give me green rep in my thread I have dedicated to objectifying women!"

No. I already debated it with you in the original thread, and as usual you proved that no amount of reason or logic will prevent you from being a giant bitch and playing the victim. See the above rep comment you referenced where you said yesterday that I gave you a death threat. FYI a death threat is saying something with intent to follow through with an action. IE: "Die in a fire" is not a death threat, but "I'm gonna kill you motherfucker" would be.


Let me guess, this also isn't a death threat that I have received in rep comments: "Go kill yourself you fucking piece of shit. I hope you die like your dad."

I can't claim that one, you're just making shit up again which is your standard mode of operation. Didn't take long to return to it. Unsurprise! But no, that's actually not a death threat, because the person conveyed no intent to cause you any harm, just a hope that you would self end or otherwise expire.


Amazing how the people who do the most crying about neg rep comments often leave the nastiest neg rep comments then try to downplay them after the comments are linked to them in public.

If you'll return to my original post all I did was state the truth, that ParkBandit is the most prolific rep abuser on the forum in terms of the content and number of rep comments left. You know it's true, you've seen the examples of his sexually charged hateful rhetoric he leaves daily in rep comments across this forum. Not going to spend 10 seconds to produce a god damned one of them as if you hadn't seen the 100s of other examples. As if it would somehow sway your tiny little mind a bit. No thanks. Moving on.

Sorry about your dad.

Tgo01
01-21-2022, 08:55 AM
No.

How quickly you realized what a jackass you sounded like saying this. "I didn't threaten your mom! I just said I was gonna blow a load of jizz in her face!"


I can't claim that one, you're just making shit up again which is your standard mode of operation.

I didn't say you left me that rep comment, but the person who did is of your ilk, which is why I'm sure you're just gonna downplay the shit out of that comment as well.

You know what, Bhaalizmo? I'm gonna do you a favor and stop responding to you in regards to this so you can stop digging that hole any deeper.

Bhaalizmo
01-21-2022, 09:44 AM
How quickly you realized what a jackass you sounded like saying this. "I didn't threaten your mom! I just said I was gonna blow a load of jizz in her face!"

Nice fabrication on the fly, as usual. Tell your mom I said hi.


I didn't say you left me that rep comment, but the person who did is of your ilk, which is why I'm sure you're just gonna downplay the shit out of that comment as well.

You know what, Bhaalizmo? I'm gonna do you a favor and stop responding to you in regards to this so you can stop digging that hole any deeper.

You know what TGO1? That's not how you ignore someone, as I've told you 100 times you dumbass. You just don't respond to them. Announcing that you're going to not talk to them anymore is the equivalent of a child throwing a tantrum. It's not effective at all and it doesn't get your point across. Actually not responding to that person forever, would actually get the point across. You're just not capable of that though. So anyway... cool story I guess?

https://media.giphy.com/media/7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB/giphy.gif

Neveragain
01-21-2022, 09:52 AM
Tell your mom I said hi.




the equivalent of a child throwing a tantrum.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/8e3ac3904417a3c137f98f00cb7b640a/tumblr_inline_p8iwvqwWZS1qcwic6_400.gifv

Suppressed Poet
01-21-2022, 09:55 AM
Nice fabrication on the fly, as usual. Tell your mom I said hi.



You know what TGO1? That's not how you ignore someone, as I've told you 100 times you dumbass. You just don't respond to them. Announcing that you're going to not talk to them anymore is the equivalent of a child throwing a tantrum. It's not effective at all and it doesn't get your point across. Actually not responding to that person forever, would actually get the point across. You're just not capable of that though. So anyway... cool story I guess?

https://media.giphy.com/media/7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB/giphy.gif

Yo mama is SO FAT, when she walked by the tv I missed a whole new season of Cobra Kai!

Bhaalizmo
01-21-2022, 10:13 AM
Yo mama is SO FAT, when she walked by the tv I missed a whole new season of Cobra Kai!

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9jTHzCQxr1kfsM8/giphy.gif

Dud
01-21-2022, 07:06 PM
Dreaven and Thicc girl guy are arguing. I enjoy both of your content and wish you both the best. Arguing on the internet is a waste of time.

Mobius1
01-21-2022, 07:10 PM
Yo mama's so fat, I took a picture of her last Christmas and it's STILL printing.

Suppressed Poet
01-21-2022, 07:22 PM
Well yo mama is SO FAT, she uses Google Earth to take a selfie.

subzero
01-22-2022, 12:34 AM
LOL. That is a lot of words to say "PB HURT MY FEE FEES!"

I couldn't be happier to know that I have caused you THIS much distress and feelings of being super upset.

Keep using the feature on this forum... but stop crying like the little faggot you are that someone is abusing it.. when you are doing the exact same thing.

Pussy ass little bitch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewd97g-TNlw

edit: Jesus Christ... what is this age restricted nonsense?!

Tgo01
01-22-2022, 12:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewd97g-TNlw

edit: Jesus Christ... what is this age restricted nonsense?!

Youngings can't be hearing none of them there words!

subzero
01-22-2022, 12:38 AM
Scarred for life. Ruined. Words are the devil!

Methais
01-22-2022, 12:08 PM
It's really telling that you're calling a negative rep comment like that a death threat.

You are a cavernous vagina of a man, always on the lookout for the next thing that makes you a victim.

There are reasons, that I'm sure you could come up with if you dug through your posting history, that the most popular tags in use on this forum are against and about you.

The best thing about making fun of leftists like you and their own made up "rules" is that they never have enough self awareness to realize when they're being made fun of.

Protip: Tgo doesn't seriously consider it a death threat. He's using the same "logic" that leftists use to point out the hypocrisy, and you idiots take the bait every time and prove the point.

You're far too stupid to understand things this, so I expect nothing less than for all of this to sail right over your peanut shaped head.

Methais
01-22-2022, 12:09 PM
https://c.tenor.com/rYSBKEcela4AAAAC/sure-klan.gif

I think you can be certain that I don't give two shits about rep, and no shits about anything your dumbass has to add.

https://i.imgur.com/nOdN0La.png

You seem pretty excited here to have briefly gotten back into green. Which is clearly how people who don't give a shit about something act.

Briefly. :lol:

Tgo01
01-22-2022, 01:41 PM
A mother said this at a school board meeting: "My children will not come to school on Monday with a mask on, all right? That's not happening. And I will bring every single gun loaded and ready."

Now the police are investigating it as a crime and some people are not only asking for her to be arrested for making a threat, but are demanding that she be charged with terrorism.

This is all crazy because she never threatened anyone, she merely said she would be bringing guns.

Surely she has Bhaalizmo’s support because only a cavernous vagina of a person would perceive that as a threat.

Taernath
01-22-2022, 02:27 PM
I know right? It's like as soon as you load up the PC, the political threads just click themselves and won't allow you to view or post anything else until all political thread have been read.

lol the shitposting is confined to political threads, that's a good one.

Methais
01-22-2022, 02:43 PM
lol the shitposting is confined to political threads, that's a good one.

lol as if shitposting hasn't been a constant thing on here since 2003 in any thread/folder, that's a good one.


I mentioned political threads because that's what people cry the most about lately when they're pretending every folder hasn't been a train wreck since 2003, since politics is the most active folder on the PC now. Kind of assumed you'd be able to figure that part out on your own.

subzero
01-22-2022, 08:47 PM
Excellent question coming from a grown man that cyber rapes 16 year old girls in a text game. - [Suppressed-Poet]

That's some pretty hardcore projection there, buddy.

Suppressed Poet
01-22-2022, 09:45 PM
That's some pretty hardcore projection there, buddy.

What on Earth are you talking about?

Parkbandit
01-22-2022, 10:53 PM
What on Earth are you talking about?

I'm assuming he received that as a red reputation comment from you.

subzero
01-23-2022, 02:27 AM
I'm assuming he received that as a red reputation comment from you.

Yeah, not sure what was so confusing about it.

Gelston
01-23-2022, 05:02 AM
Yeah I got this from him

I shall piss on your cold dead corpse after you are sodomized by a pack of massive grahnks!

He apparently had no idea rep isn't anonymous.

Suppressed Poet
01-23-2022, 12:00 PM
Yeah I got this from him

I shall piss on your cold dead corpse after you are sodomized by a pack of massive grahnks!

He apparently had no idea rep isn't anonymous.

I would never rep a comment so childish & heinous.

Also, since when is rep not anonymous?

Gelston
01-23-2022, 02:01 PM
I would never rep a comment so childish & heinous.

Also, since when is rep not anonymous?

But you did, retard

Parkbandit
01-23-2022, 02:30 PM
I would never rep a comment so childish & heinous.

Sure. Sorry, rep isn't anonymous anymore. Everyone knows you sent it.

I also received a retarded rep comment from you.


Also, since when is rep not anonymous?

Like 6-7 years.

Suppressed Poet
01-23-2022, 02:49 PM
Can someone please kindly explain how rep is not anonymous anymore? I’ve recently got some and I can’t see who it’s from. I would like to know how I can see who sent it.

PB…I would never…

Suppressed Poet
01-23-2022, 03:32 PM
But you did, retard

I did no such thing.

Also calling someone a retard is uncouth. It’s demeaning to those who are actually born with a mental handicap. Do you have a deep-seeded hatred towards those who are less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age? Or do you ridicule those who are less fortunate to publicly communicate your perceived dominance? In either case, I hope you are ashamed of yourself for such intolerant behavior.

drumpel
01-23-2022, 04:16 PM
I did no such thing.

Also calling someone a retard is uncouth. It’s demeaning to those who are actually born with a mental handicap. Do you have a deep-seeded hatred towards those who are less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age? Or do you ridicule those who are less fortunate to publicly communicate your perceived dominance? In either case, I hope you are ashamed of yourself for such intolerant behavior.

Not sure if serious or not.....

Either way, no one on here is going to care what you think about how a word is used. Best to just save your breath and keep walking.

Gelston
01-23-2022, 04:21 PM
I did no such thing.

Also calling someone a retard is uncouth. It’s demeaning to those who are actually born with a mental handicap. Do you have a deep-seeded hatred towards those who are less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age? Or do you ridicule those who are less fortunate to publicly communicate your perceived dominance? In either case, I hope you are ashamed of yourself for such intolerant behavior.

No, I just think you're a retard.

Parkbandit
01-23-2022, 06:36 PM
Can someone please kindly explain how rep is not anonymous anymore? I’ve recently got some and I can’t see who it’s from. I would like to know how I can see who sent it.

PB…I would never…

There's a thread that tells you how to make it unanonymous. Probably in social?

Also, it's one thing to be a douche.. but to be a lying douche makes you even douchier than you already are.

Be a man and at least own it.

Suppressed Poet
01-23-2022, 06:59 PM
There's a thread that tells you how to make it unanonymous. Probably in social?

Also, it's one thing to be a douche.. but to be a lying douche makes you even douchier than you already are.

Be a man and at least own it.

I’ve been gone a short 8 or so years, and what do I find when I return? Rep is no longer anonymous to allow for fun trolling, and more than half the population is gone. What the hell man???

Damnit PB…I believe you that rep is no longer anonymous. You’re right I need to own it. Ok, I will explain… So I was taking a trip down nostalgia road reading some really old posts. Then I had this great idea to troll with some rather obscene and ludicrous rep comments (anonymously). I wanted to see someone resurrect the “Respond to Reputation Comments” thread with discussions trying to solve the mystery troll. Obviously I failed miserably. To anyone (and there were quite a few) that got some really eff’d up negative rep comment…it was not personal, don’t try to make sense from it, and it’s not a true reflection of how I feel about said user. I offer no apology for my stupidity, but hope this short explanation will bring some comfort & closure to the matter.

subzero
01-23-2022, 09:20 PM
Damnit PB…I believe you that rep is no longer anonymous.

Hah, what was your first clue?

Suppressed Poet
01-23-2022, 09:41 PM
Hah, what was your first clue?

Well I had to consider that anonymity did still exist and you were just saying that to receive a confession. But then I looked through some posts and it seemed to support this was indeed true. Seriously though, who came up with this terrible idea for rep comments?

Also subzero…I always liked what you had to say back in the day. To the best of my knowledge you do not cyber rape 16 year old girls. I would never make such wild unfounded accusations without the presumption of anonymity & pure jest. I do hope we’re still cool.

Edit: Forgot which one I repped with “You raped Msconstrew! Then you murdered her!! Then you killed her children!!!”, but I’ll just say in advance that was regrettable and unfortunate. In my defense that was after dinner and having 2x top shelf margaritas & 2x Modelos. It was my dietary cheat day and I believe the rapid influx of carbohydrates may have reduced my capacity to make good decisions.

Gelston
01-23-2022, 10:38 PM
Oh, not when we were posting your exact rep comments on here and attributing them to you? Just trying to lie your way out huh?

Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-23-2022, 10:43 PM
In my defense that was after dinner and having 2x top shelf margaritas & 2x Modelos.

Strange, my neg rep from you came in at 10:41AM on the 21st.

Suppressed Poet
01-23-2022, 11:04 PM
I'm sorry for your butt hurt Gelston.

SHM: Oh that one was on some recent thread. I went down the rabit hole of looking at some 10 year old posts. Purely a koinky-dink there.

Thread: Official forums shutting down.
is this anonymous?
<gasp>....SHAFT! That was you?? My fellow A$$nTD lovin' brother from another mother?? I can't even be mad. Well played sir.

Also wow...that took a considerable of effort. I've never looked at a page's source code. I just found a thread of tgo01 describing the process. Who was the one that discovered this and what were they so upset about? And now I have to back and look at who said what years ago...

Suppressed Poet
01-23-2022, 11:17 PM
There's a thread that tells you how to make it unanonymous. Probably in social?

Also, it's one thing to be a douche.. but to be a lying douche makes you even douchier than you already are.

Be a man and at least own it.

Dang Mr. PB...it appears that for YEARS you were pretty consistently giving me anonymous bad rep. Lots of member id = 30 in this sea of red. No doubt I deserved each one though.

This is the worst discovery to ever happen to the PC... What is the point of rep now if not to troll?

SHAFT
01-23-2022, 11:58 PM
Dang Mr. PB...it appears that for YEARS you were pretty consistently giving me anonymous bad rep. Lots of member id = 30 in this sea of red. No doubt I deserved each one though.

This is the worst discovery to ever happen to the PC... What is the point of rep now if not to troll?

He’s a lunatic. Arguably the most pathetic human to ever grace these forums.

gilchristr
01-24-2022, 12:01 AM
Either the most pathetic humans or some of the most advanced apes we have ever seen.

Suppressed Poet
01-24-2022, 12:07 AM
Half-Krolvins have pale skin with a slight blue or blue-gray tinge. Particularly hairy, their long arms have delicate fingers with swollen-looking knuckles. Half-Krolvins benefit from strong able bodies, but often get into trouble due to poor judgment or short-sighted reasoning.

Parkbandit
01-24-2022, 08:19 AM
Dang Mr. PB...it appears that for YEARS you were pretty consistently giving me anonymous bad rep. Lots of member id = 30 in this sea of red. No doubt I deserved each one though.

This is the worst discovery to ever happen to the PC... What is the point of rep now if not to troll?

I rep the dumbest, the most stupid people to ever grace this forum. People who I am actually surprised that they can function in society being this fucking stupid.


He’s a lunatic. Arguably the most pathetic human to ever grace these forums.

A perfect example of retards I rep.

Wrathbringer
01-24-2022, 10:04 AM
I rep the dumbest, the most stupid people to ever grace this forum. People who I am actually surprised that they can function in society being this fucking stupid.



A perfect example of retards I rep.

This is all correct.

subzero
01-24-2022, 11:59 AM
Well I had to consider that anonymity did still exist and you were just saying that to receive a confession. But then I looked through some posts and it seemed to support this was indeed true. Seriously though, who came up with this terrible idea for rep comments?

Also subzero…I always liked what you had to say back in the day. To the best of my knowledge you do not cyber rape 16 year old girls. I would never make such wild unfounded accusations without the presumption of anonymity & pure jest. I do hope we’re still cool.

Edit: Forgot which one I repped with “You raped Msconstrew! Then you murdered her!! Then you killed her children!!!”, but I’ll just say in advance that was regrettable and unfortunate. In my defense that was after dinner and having 2x top shelf margaritas & 2x Modelos. It was my dietary cheat day and I believe the rapid influx of carbohydrates may have reduced my capacity to make good decisions.

There's not a whole lot that happens on the internet that I take too seriously. Especially here. If anything, I was hoping you had me pegged as someone else and wanted to know who you thought I was.


Oh, not when we were posting your exact rep comments on here and attributing them to you? Just trying to lie your way out huh?

I got some winning lotto numbers for sale!

Flap
01-24-2022, 07:09 PM
I rep the dumbest, the most stupid people to ever grace this forum. People who I am actually surprised that they can function in society being this fucking stupid.



A perfect example of retards I rep.

Translation: People who disagree with me.

Suppressed Poet
01-24-2022, 08:11 PM
Back on the original topic of this thread, I don’t know about anyone else but I found the official gemstone forums to be so archaic in its interface that they were damn near unusable. Also they moderated them to make it rated E for everyone, which was no fun.

gilchristr
01-24-2022, 11:58 PM
dude it was pretty easy to use, just skim for posts with a name in red

Parkbandit
01-25-2022, 08:15 AM
Translation: People who disagree with me.

I disagree with many people here.

Taernath is a diehard liberal. Don't think I've given him much red rep.

Same with Drauz or Alfster.

Those are off the top of my head.

If you are able to post at least a coherent message and position, why would I send you a red rep?

You are unable to do this.. and as such, you are labeled red for retarded by a jury of your peers.

Parkbandit
01-25-2022, 12:10 PM
Dang Mr. PB...it appears that for YEARS you were pretty consistently giving me anonymous bad rep. Lots of member id = 30 in this sea of red. No doubt I deserved each one though.

This is the worst discovery to ever happen to the PC... What is the point of rep now if not to troll?

You also realize that the red reputation I give is also tracked, right?

You started on this forum in Sept 2010.

Reputation had started 2 years prior.

In that 11 year span, I gave you a grand total of 26 reputation comments, 8 of which were green.

1 in 2022
0 in 2021
0 in 2020
0 in 2019
0 in 2018
2 in 2017
0 in 2016
3 in 2015
2 in 2014
13 in 2013
4 in 2012
0 in 2011
1 in 2010

There is nothing "consistent" about this pattern.

Why do you have to lie about everything.. even something as meaningless as reputation on this forum?

Suppressed Poet
01-25-2022, 01:33 PM
You also realize that the red reputation I give is also tracked, right?

You started on this forum in Sept 2010.

Reputation had started 2 years prior.

In that 11 year span, I gave you a grand total of 26 reputation comments, 8 of which were green.

1 in 2022
0 in 2021
0 in 2020
0 in 2019
0 in 2018
2 in 2017
0 in 2016
3 in 2015
2 in 2014
13 in 2013
4 in 2012
0 in 2011
1 in 2010

There is nothing "consistent" about this pattern.

Why do you have to lie about everything.. even something as meaningless as reputation on this forum?

I was making a general statement of seeing quite a few anonymous negative rep posts from you over the years, which is true. I’m not butt-hurt about it. Why are you?

And what is strange is that I really wasn’t active after 2014, yet in 2017 for example you gave negative rep twice to posts made in 2013. Again not butt hurt, but I find that kind of odd behavior…

Parkbandit
01-25-2022, 02:14 PM
I was making a general statement of seeing quite a few anonymous negative rep posts from you over the years, which is true. I’m not butt-hurt about it. Why are you?

Not triggered... just have very low tolerance for liars and retards.

And you hit both in this thread.

You made the claim that "it appears that for YEARS you were pretty consistently giving me anonymous bad rep." I believe I demonstrated that this is another lie.


And what is strange is that I really wasn’t active after 2014, yet in 2017 for example you gave negative rep twice to posts made in 2013. Again not butt hurt, but I find that kind of odd behavior…

Threads are bumped... threads are linked. Let's take a look:

First one was in this thread: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?85551-Whither-msconstrew/page6 and here's your post:


That doesn't even make sense.

Tisket likes dicks...lots of dicks smacking her forehead. She loves the cock, and would not betray that with lesbian porn.

Diethx loves bologna and lots of mayo in between her buns.

Perhaps then, msconstrew interrupted their orgy of dicks with her hatred of men talk.

This thread was probably linked in another thread.. because 2017 was around the same time Androidpk went full blown TDS and lost his mind.

Pretty stupid post. Seems to check out. Let's look at the other one:

Came from "Thread for things that make you frown" that gets bumped all.the.time. Here's your post:


I already gave up hookers and blow for Lent. Now you're just pushing it.

Pretty stupid post. Also seems to check out.

Stop being retarded and lying and you will probably see those mean rep comments dry up.

SHAFT
01-25-2022, 02:15 PM
You also realize that the red reputation I give is also tracked, right?

You started on this forum in Sept 2010.

Reputation had started 2 years prior.

In that 11 year span, I gave you a grand total of 26 reputation comments, 8 of which were green.

1 in 2022
0 in 2021
0 in 2020
0 in 2019
0 in 2018
2 in 2017
0 in 2016
3 in 2015
2 in 2014
13 in 2013
4 in 2012
0 in 2011
1 in 2010

There is nothing "consistent" about this pattern.

Why do you have to lie about everything.. even something as meaningless as reputation on this forum?

so pathetic

Parkbandit
01-25-2022, 02:16 PM
so pathetic

You going to be ok.. little retard?

Also, less projection in your rep comments would be awesome.

Thanks.

Suppressed Poet
01-25-2022, 02:32 PM
Shaft you just triggered his PTSD. PB is now having flashbacks from his service in the Korean War and seeing waves of PVA peasants charging at him with pitchforks.*

(*Yes PB I am aware you are not quite that old if it wasn’t obvious for you.)

Methais
01-25-2022, 02:39 PM
I would never rep a comment so childish & heinous.

Also, since when is rep not anonymous?

I bet you'll say this wasn't you either:


You raped Msconstrew. And then you murdered her. And then you killed her children.

And I had just green repped you right before that too.

What a dick. :lol:


Obviously I failed miserably.

That's the spirit.


This is the worst discovery to ever happen to the PC... What is the point of rep now if not to troll?

To cause butthurt.

Exhibit A: Bhaalizmo

Parkbandit
01-25-2022, 06:01 PM
Shaft you just triggered his PTSD. PB is now having flashbacks from his service in the Korean War and seeing waves of PVA peasants charging at him with pitchforks.*

(*Yes PB I am aware you are not quite that old if it wasn’t obvious for you.)

Shaft doesn't have the power to do shit to me. He was exposed years ago for being retarded... so much so it cost him real money on a bet he demanded I take.

Also, your "OMGUROLD" stuff is really new and fresh.

Really.

Flap
01-25-2022, 06:28 PM
I've been looking at who left anon reps over the last few years. 0% surprised, although there is a certain someone who only signs his reps when he's pretending to be a reasonable person.

Suppressed Poet
01-25-2022, 07:33 PM
I bet you'll say this wasn't you either:



And I had just green repped you right before that too.

What a dick. :lol:

No that was me. Total dick move indeed. I explained my reasons, but that was not cool.

Neveragain
01-25-2022, 08:17 PM
I've been looking at who left anon reps over the last few years. 0% surprised, although there is a certain someone who only signs his reps when he's pretending to be a reasonable person.

https://c.tenor.com/oozllPum198AAAAC/nobody-cares.gif

Flap
01-25-2022, 08:56 PM
https://c.tenor.com/oozllPum198AAAAC/nobody-cares.gif

I can tell one person does :)

Methais
01-25-2022, 09:01 PM
I can tell one person does :)

https://c.tenor.com/mIvfSacBWYwAAAAC/you-point.gif

Parkbandit
01-26-2022, 08:30 AM
I can tell one person does :)

Probably the "guy" who brought it up in the first place.

drumpel
01-26-2022, 08:35 AM
I can't believe all you people are so hurtful and wanting to tarnish other's reputation! It's like you guys don't even care!

https://i.giphy.com/media/3orieSUTdCalzcJESk/giphy.webp

Parkbandit
01-26-2022, 09:12 AM
I can't believe all you people are so hurtful and wanting to tarnish other's reputation! It's like you guys don't even care!

https://i.giphy.com/media/3orieSUTdCalzcJESk/giphy.webp

To be fair, I'm surprised they put their "thoughts" into words and post it on the Internet, removing all doubt how dumb they are.

Pin
02-06-2022, 03:09 PM
Making a post on the official forums:

Your responses here tend to be a mix of helpful and downright awful, almost Krakii & Doug level - incoherent, convoluted or even contradictory of what you're asking. Then you get folks that seem think branching off your topic to stupid political crap or rants about how X person is bad and then X person shows up and the topic goes even more off the rails.....

At least on the officials, even if you have a few fucking retards that derail things, you can sometimes, genuinely, get an honest response from a GM - even if you have to pull it out of them.

I'm hoping something at least as useful as the officials are is used to replace the current official forums. Solely relying on PC or Discord to find useful information won't be viable for some people that still enjoy finding information in one, albeit not easy to navigate or search through, location. Here's hoping that Simu gets something better going.


FWIW I'm somebody that comes back to the PC every now and again when I get the Gemstone itch to try and get a feel for what's going on. Whenever I ask a question in the profession boards, or PM somebody directly about an item, I can't think of a time I haven't received helpful feedback with very little to no bs.

YMMV however

Gelston
02-06-2022, 05:03 PM
FWIW I'm somebody that comes back to the PC every now and again when I get the Gemstone itch to try and get a feel for what's going on. Whenever I ask a question in the profession boards, or PM somebody directly about an item, I can't think of a time I haven't received helpful feedback with very little to no bs.

YMMV however

I've honestly never seen anyone get fucked with when they've asked an honest question or wanted to figure something out. People will troll the shit out of folks on the political forums, but, with very few examples, it stays out of the actual GS threads...

gilchristr
02-07-2022, 02:21 AM
"the Gemstone itch"

Also know as the clap

SylphSorc
05-10-2022, 10:50 AM
I know this is a few months old but wtf and wow