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Raulin
04-16-2005, 03:51 PM
What would be the best placement of stats for a paladin. I'm finding that I can't really even 1x spells with the default setting.

ElanthianSiren
04-16-2005, 05:36 PM
Well, that depends...

1) what level optimization are you placing for?
2) what race are you placing.
3) which way do you prefer your paladin lean? ie: do you want more mental TPs or physical TPs.

edited to add: The most a paladin can train in my opinion is 1x spells and still keep core skills. Again, that's my opinion. It really depends what you are trying to do.

Like your paladin is never going to be a hiding/ambushing/spell casting rogue-type with tons of lore, harness, and CMAN training.

-Melissa

[Edited on Sat, April th, 2005 by ElanthianSiren]

AnticorRifling
04-16-2005, 07:27 PM
I don't 1x spells. My paladin is 5 spells behind 1x.

Xcalibur
04-16-2005, 08:42 PM
If you don't try to be close to 1X, then don't be a paladin, be a warrior with spells

Raulin
04-17-2005, 01:59 AM
Here are my stats as of now.

Name:xxxxxxx Race: Half-Elf Profession: Paladin (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 55 Expr: 670037 Level: 24
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Constitution (CON): 88 (19) ... 88 (19)
Dexterity (DEX): 88 (24) ... 88 (24)
Agility (AGI): 88 (29) ... 88 (29)
Discipline (DIS): 53 (-4) ... 53 (-4)
Aura (AUR): 75 (12) ... 75 (12)
Logic (LOG): 73 (11) ... 73 (11)
Intuition (INT): 50 (0) ... 50 (0)
Wisdom (WIS): 88 (19) ... 88 (19)
Influence (INF): 54 (7) ... 54 (7)
Mana: 87 Silver: 376

Raulin
04-17-2005, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Xcalibur
If you don't try to be close to 1X, then don't be a paladin, be a warrior with spells

That was my thoughts. I should be 1X per level.

FinisWolf
04-17-2005, 02:09 AM
Name: XXXX
Race: Half-Krolvin
Profession: Paladin (shown as: Vindicator)
Gender: Male
Age: XX
Expr: 299204
Level: 15

Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
(STR): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
(CON): 77 (23) ... 77 (23)
(DEX): 93 (21) ... 93 (21)
(AGI): 75 (17) ... 75 (17)
(DIS): 35 (-7) ... 35 (-7)
(AUR): 73 (11) ... 73 (11)
(LOG): 100 (15) ... 100 (15)
(INT): 32 (-9) ... 32 (-9)
(WIS): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
(INF): 35 (-12) ... 35 (-12)

Mana: 60 Silver: 9999999

Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use.........................| 78 17
Shield Use.........................| 128 34
Combat Maneuvers...........| 128 34
Edged Weapons...............| 128 34
Physical Fitness.................| 102 24
Harness Power..................| 78 17
Climbing............................| 78 17

Spell Lists
Paladin..............................| 16

Mine at 15 trains...

Obviously I am shooting for heavy physical skills, while being able to tap into the magic side of things.

Thus far, I love the set-up. Though I do find myself missing my main, so he has been ditched, I do come in occasionally, and play one of my lil` chars.

At current train he swings 261... without madness, blue crystal, bravery, and heroism.

Finiswolf

ElanthianSiren
04-17-2005, 03:57 PM
My boyfriend's at 29 trains:

>info start
Level 0 Stats for XXXXX, Giant Paladin

Strength (STR): 91
Constitution (CON): 43
Dexterity (DEX): 70
Agility (AGI): 67
Discipline (DIS): 29
Aura (AUR): 89
Logic (LOG): 89
Intuition (INT): 67
Wisdom (WIS): 95
Influence (INF): 20


Name: XXXXX Race: Giant Profession: Paladin
Gender: Male Age: 39 Expr: 960270 Level: 29
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (40) ... 100 (40)
Constitution (CON): 64 (17) ... 69 (19)
Dexterity (DEX): 78 (9) ... 78 (9)
Agility (AGI): 76 (8) ... 76 (8)
Discipline (DIS): 54 (2) ... 54 (2)
Aura (AUR): 94 (17) ... 94 (17)
Logic (LOG): 93 (16) ... 93 (16)
Intuition (INT): 75 (12) ... 75 (12)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 44 (2) ... 44 (2)
Mana: 102 Silver: 2977
>

>skills
XXXXXXXX (at level 29), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 184 84
Shield Use.........................| 122 31
Combat Maneuvers...................| 120 30
Edged Weapons......................| 162 62
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 25 5
Physical Fitness...................| 162 62
Harness Power......................| 120 30
Spirit Mana Control................| 35 7
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 86 19
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 50 10
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Swimming...........................| 40 8

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 8

Spell Lists
Paladin............................| 22


He calculated that he would need 46/46 TPs to do what he wanted at start, so that is the start we began with.

-Melissa

edited cuz I forgot to yank a name.


[Edited on Sun, April th, 2005 by ElanthianSiren]

05-27-2005, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Xcalibur
If you don't try to be close to 1X, then don't be a paladin, be a warrior with spells

Paladin's were intended for .75x spell training...

I'd like to see a warrior with paladin spell circle as well...

AnticorRifling
05-27-2005, 07:19 PM
Level 0 Stats for Dwarf Paladin

Strength (STR): 60
Constitution (CON): 70
Dexterity (DEX): 78
Agility (AGI): 82
Discipline (DIS): 58
Aura (AUR): 82
Logic (LOG): 80
Intuition (INT): 70
Wisdom (WIS): 60
Influence (INF): 20

Race: Dwarf Profession: Paladin (shown as: Wrathbringer)
Gender: Male Age: 48 Expr: 3009532 Level: 55
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 92 (31) ... 92 (31)
Constitution (CON): 95 (37) ... 95 (37)
Dexterity (DEX): 91 (20) ... 91 (20)
Agility (AGI): 93 (16) ... 93 (16)
Discipline (DIS): 85 (27) ... 85 (27)
Aura (AUR): 93 (11) ... 93 (11)
Logic (LOG): 86 (23) ... 86 (23)
Intuition (INT): 82 (16) ... 82 (16)
Wisdom (WIS): 86 (18) ... 86 (18)
Influence (INF): 55 (-8) ... 55 (-8)
Mana: 168 Silver: 0

(at level 55), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 232 132
Shield Use.........................| 212 112
Combat Maneuvers...................| 181 81
Edged Weapons......................| 212 112
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 25 5
Physical Fitness...................| 181 81
Harness Power......................| 154 54
Spirit Mana Control................| 45 9
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 105 25
Perception.........................| 120 30
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 120 30

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 20

Spell Lists
Paladin............................| 31
Training Points: 1 Phy 5 Mnt

your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Feint feint 3
Specialization I wspec1 3
Surge of Strength surge 5

Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 4

COL master.

You are holding a dark glaes falchion in your right hand and a hammered dwarven wall shield in your left hand.
You are wearing a well-forged dwarven war helm, a crystal amulet, some tiny axe shaped beard clips, a dwarven mining backpack, a dwarven tailored mining greatcloak, a dwarven tackle harness, some reinforced golden imflass hauberk, a stout dwarven belt, a waern-skin forging hammer case, an onyx-studded shadowy black hip-satchel, a black dwarven-crafted kilt and some dwarven infantry boots.

The hauberk is 12 pounds and +32 so he's in that until he's fully trained (150 armor ranks for paladin spell circle) for plate.