question about PMS - weapon skills

[gilchristr]

Are the new weapon skills AS attacks or CML attacks?

Such a basic thing, you would think would be laid out. On the wiki, some of them say "attack" multiple targets (see whirlwind, THW) while others say "maneuver" multiple targets (see blitz through, brawling).

If so, then is "whirlwind" basically a room mstrike? So now we can do room mstrikes without the mistrike skill, but only with the THW weapons and only if you are a square or a semi?!?

PMS gives me headaches everytime :(

[Solkern]

PMS gives me headaches everytime :(

Yeah, it gives me a headache once a month as well.

[Rjex]

I've been actively ignoring PSM3, I hope it goes away if I don't think about it.

[audioserf]

I've been actively ignoring PSM3, I hope it goes away if I don't think about it.

I spent time on test on my monk and all I learned is that I won't be changing a fucking thing about how he's built or how he hunts when PSM3 goes live. If people want to hunt slower just to use more varied attacks, that's up to them, I'll keep spamming mstrike. The refund of CMPs (and 700 PTP back from unlearning all his armor use since Light Armor Mastery is being killed off) is nice, though.

My other characters are pures and they'll likely be able to completely ignore the entire release.

e: I was ready to weave in new PSM3 stuff to his routine but then we learned that using any sort of mstrike cockblocks you from using AOE weapon skills for a full 60 seconds and I just laughed and moved on with my life. Very typical Simu shit tbh. Months of "mstrike will still work, it's not getting changed, you can keep hunting how you are now if you don't want to use the new stuff" which is all the literal truth! But then it hits test and we learn about the cooldown. Just lol.

[Skeletor]

I spent time on test on my monk and all I learned is that I won't be changing a fucking thing about how he's built or how he hunts when PSM3 goes live. If people want to hunt slower just to use more varied attacks, that's up to them, I'll keep spamming mstrike. The refund of CMPs (and 700 PTP back from unlearning all his armor use since Light Armor Mastery is being killed off) is nice, though.

My other characters are pures and they'll likely be able to completely ignore the entire release.

e: I was ready to weave in new PSM3 stuff to his routine but then we learned that using any sort of mstrike cockblocks you from using AOE weapon skills for a full 60 seconds and I just laughed and moved on with my life. Very typical Simu shit tbh. Months of "mstrike will still work, it's not getting changed, you can keep hunting how you are now if you don't want to use the new stuff" which is all the literal truth! But then it hits test and we learn about the cooldown. Just lol.

You can still weapon skill AOE and spam MSTRIKE. You just need to do MSTRIKE second.

[Methais]

I spent time on test on my monk and all I learned is that I won't be changing a fucking thing about how he's built or how he hunts when PSM3 goes live. If people want to hunt slower just to use more varied attacks, that's up to them, I'll keep spamming mstrike. The refund of CMPs (and 700 PTP back from unlearning all his armor use since Light Armor Mastery is being killed off) is nice, though.

My other characters are pures and they'll likely be able to completely ignore the entire release.

e: I was ready to weave in new PSM3 stuff to his routine but then we learned that using any sort of mstrike cockblocks you from using AOE weapon skills for a full 60 seconds and I just laughed and moved on with my life. Very typical Simu shit tbh. Months of "mstrike will still work, it's not getting changed, you can keep hunting how you are now if you don't want to use the new stuff" which is all the literal truth! But then it hits test and we learn about the cooldown. Just lol.

According to Naijin, hunting "the old way" will basically be gimping yourself.


My other characters are pures and they'll likely be able to completely ignore the entire release.

This will probably be the case until they start nerfing the fuck out of everyone and by the time it's said and done with, hunting with 901 without rapid fire today will probably end up being more effective than whatever pures have shoved up their ass by the time Naijin is done wrecking everything.

[audioserf]

I think that while leveling, the PSM3 weapon skills/CMs will make things a ton easier for squares. Ultimately, though, it's similar to spells vs Kroderine Soul: once you have enough MOC and stamina, mstrike is just better. When you have the exp for spells, spells are better than KS.

[Methais]

I think that while leveling, the PSM3 weapon skills/CMs will make things a ton easier for squares. Ultimately, though, it's similar to spells vs Kroderine Soul: once you have enough MOC and stamina, mstrike is just better. When you have the exp for spells, spells are better than KS.

Do you think Naijin won't nerf existing things to make new stuff "better" though?

[audioserf]

Do you think Naijin won't nerf existing things to make new stuff "better" though?

He's said he won't and that's all we can go on for now until it happens, right? If they start firing up the Mstrike Nerf Hammer I'll come here to post through incoherent blind rage before fire-saleing my monk and replacing him with another pure.

[Methais]

He's said he won't and that's all we can go on for now until it happens, right?

In Simu speak that pretty much confirms that it will happen.

Or they'll just happen to "discover a bug" that was making them way too strong for the past couple decades and "fixed" it.

[drumpel]

In Simu speak that pretty much confirms that it will happen.

Or they'll just happen to "discover a bug" that was making them way too strong for the past couple decades and "fixed" it.

Like how the injury and health loss "bug" for SMRv2 rolls was throwing up flags at the GMs recently, so that's why about 6 months ago they fixed it.....even though the "bug" had been around for years since SMRv2 released with the throwable shield from the GM auction and 917 being released.

Also like how the "bug" of 415 wasn't supposed to be double striking the same target, but it should be striking a second target in the room instead.....


They don't like when things work better for players than they wanted a skill/spell to function, so they find a "bug" and fix it. Or they just outright nerf a spell - like 519 - when it works too well.

Ass clowns.....

[Methais]

Like how the injury and health loss "bug" for SMRv2 rolls was throwing up flags at the GMs recently, so that's why about 6 months ago they fixed it.....even though the "bug" had been around for years since SMRv2 released with the throwable shield from the GM auction and 917 being released.

Also like how the "bug" of 415 wasn't supposed to be double striking the same target, but it should be striking a second target in the room instead.....


They don't like when things work better for players than they wanted a skill/spell to function, so they find a "bug" and fix it. Or they just outright nerf a spell - like 519 - when it works too well.

Ass clowns.....

The documentation itself for 415 that Viduus (?) posted about it during the ELR even contradicted Simu's "bug" excuse and their claim that it wasn't meant to also work on single targets. I wanna say Viduus even confirmed that in a post on the officials before they decided later that it was a "bug," which IIRC became "We knew it was a bug but we just let it go for a bit" :lol:

Where "a bit" = however much time it took for most wizards to start respeccing to a 415 build.

Dicks.

[Roblar]

I just came back and took 15 hours on the shitter reading up on this clusterfuck called psm.


You might want to call a doctor first.

[drumpel]

You might want to call a doctor first.


I'm not sure even a person with a PhD will be able to help him with understanding all the PSM3 changes....but, I guess it doesn't hurt to ask.

[gilchristr]

15 hours on the shitter - with that new information, the blueberry on his avatar now looks more like a hemoroid

[Methais]

I just came back and took 15 hours on the shitter reading up on this clusterfuck called psm.

I'm just going to leave this link to a pc thread here

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?113603-Help-me-with-CMANs-too

Someone tell me, how the fuck is someone who's asking for help on his cmans as of 2018 qualify to create an entirely new combat system?

Anyone?




Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Combat Movement cmovement 5
Combat Focus focus 5
Stun Maneuvers stunman 2
Combat Mobility mobility 2
Surge of Strength surge 1
Block Mastery bmastery 3
Cunning Defense cdefense 5
Punch Mastery punchmastery 3
Kick Mastery kmastery 3


I have 29 available points. I'm shield/uac and have no idea what I want to get next. I haven't been bled out in a very long time so I'm not sure toughness is worth it but it'll be my fallback if nothing else makes sense. I'm also a halfling - so most offensive cmans are off the table unless for defense entirely.



^ :lol: