Three Hour Pool Test

[kutter]

So, I was curios about real numbers from the pool, so I did a 3 hour test tonight (Saturday) from 8PM to 11PM, and if anyone thinks rogues are getting rich, they are kidding themselves and if you tell me you are making a million silvers a day, then you are scripting for 24 hours.

For background, my rogue is 91, he has 210 ranks in picking skills so he is about 2.4/level. His settings are not super aggressive on tpick so he will occasionally turn down boxes but not more than about 2 an hour. I set tpick to not refuse any boxes due to tips, so here are the results:

171 boxes picked with 69089 in tips
13 scarabs worth 57159
Total earned 126132 or 738 silvers/box and 42044/hour
Just as an extra 7 or 4.1% of the people felt the need to tip 1 silver, thanks cheapskates

So can you make 1M/day? Sure if you script for 24 hours, that is the only way to do it.

Take it for what you will.

[Velfi]

So, I was curios about real numbers from the pool, so I did a 3 hour test tonight (Saturday) from 8PM to 11PM, and if anyone thinks rogues are getting rich, they are kidding themselves and if you tell me you are making a million silvers a day, then you are scripting for 24 hours.

For background, my rogue is 91, he has 210 ranks in picking skills so he is about 2.4/level. His settings are not super aggressive on tpick so he will occasionally turn down boxes but not more than about 2 an hour. I set tpick to not refuse any boxes due to tips, so here are the results:

171 boxes picked with 69089 in tips
13 scarabs worth 57159
Total earned 126132 or 738 silvers/box and 42044/hour
Just as an extra 7 or 4.1% of the people felt the need to tip 1 silver, thanks cheapskates

So can you make 1M/day? Sure if you script for 24 hours, that is the only way to do it.

Take it for what you will.

I've noticed the 1 silver tippers, and I believe that they are from lootcapped bots or whoever, since they don't really show up until around mid-month or a bit before.

[kutter]

I've noticed the 1 silver tippers, and I believe that they are from lootcapped bots or whoever, since they don't really show up until around mid-month or a bit before.

You are far more kind than me, I just think they are cheap assholes that are under some sort of delusion that rogues are making out with the pool.

[Velfi]

You are far more kind than me, I just think they are cheap assholes that are under some sort of delusion that rogues are making out with the pool.

I mean, they don't show up in the pool for at least a week after the start of the month. If they were that prolific an asshole, wouldn't they be tipping 1 silver from the start?

[Gizmo]

Eh it's not just people who hit a lootcap....It's basically anyone with a brain, who uses ;poolparty to deposit boxes that tip 1 silver

[Viekn]

Eh it's not just people who hit a lootcap....It's basically anyone with a brain, who uses ;poolparty to deposit boxes that tip 1 silver

So just to make sure I'm trying to make it worth the rogue's time to pick my boxes, I was doing ;poolparty at 30% tip. I recently switched to ;locksmithpool because I don't like how ;poolparty dumps everything in to one container. ;locksmithpool defaults to 10% but you can modify the script if you want to change it but as far as I know, it's not just a simple setting you can change/set with an in game lich command. So I asked on Lnet yesterday what the generally accepted tip % is. Much like a restaurant server, is 10% a bit too low, 30% a bit too high, maybe 20% is the sweet spot. There were a legit number of people that replied 1 silver, 100 silvers, 10% etc. I was surprised. The only way boxes are ever going to make a big difference for a hunter long term is if you find a nice enhancive in a box or a box found weapon. In that case, I think I'll just tip 1k a box and call it a day. If I were picking, I think making 1k a box plus scarabs would make it a fairly reasonable endeavor. Yes I get that they're getting experience too, but I consider that as more icing on the cake instead of the whole enchilada.

[kutter]

I mean, they don't show up in the pool for at least a week after the start of the month. If they were that prolific an asshole, wouldn't they be tipping 1 silver from the start?

I see them all times of the month, at least as far as I have been able to discern there is no clear pattern. People are going to be who they are, there is no changing someone's nature, if they are cheap in the game, I would wager they are cheap in life, such is the way of things. I just wish that there was not as severe of a penalty from the game for refusing boxes and make no mistake, if we did not have to wait 10 minutes to be able to pick again then no one would be picking for 1 silver.

I did not do this though to point out those people, I did it because there were some numbers being thrown out that were completely bogus, ie. a million silvers a day. Can you do it, I suppose if you violate the crap out of the scripting rules, and to be fair it is being done. Is it 24 hours at a time, maybe not but there is a lot of script picking. I mean playing 160 hours a month only yields about 7 million silvers, but I do not play my rogue 40 hours/week, he is lucky if he works his gift off. He is typically in when I am working at home so I can monitor him. Is it easy experience, yep, but he is not getting rich by any means. I make way more selling enchants from my capped wizard.


So just to make sure I'm trying to make it worth the rogue's time to pick my boxes, I was doing ;poolparty at 30% tip. I recently switched to ;locksmithpool because I don't like how ;poolparty dumps everything in to one container. ;locksmithpool defaults to 10% but you can modify the script if you want to change it but as far as I know, it's not just a simple setting you can change/set with an in game lich command. So I asked on Lnet yesterday what the generally accepted tip % is. Much like a restaurant server, is 10% a bit too low, 30% a bit too high, maybe 20% is the sweet spot. There were a legit number of people that replied 1 silver, 100 silvers, 10% etc. I was surprised. The only way boxes are ever going to make a big difference for a hunter long term is if you find a nice enhancive in a box or a box found weapon. In that case, I think I'll just tip 1k a box and call it a day. If I were picking, I think making 1k a box plus scarabs would make it a fairly reasonable endeavor. Yes I get that they're getting experience too, but I consider that as more icing on the cake instead of the whole enchilada.

As I understand it, the tip takes into account everything that is inside the box, so gems and coins, not sure about weapons and enhancives but does not include and traps, so no scarabs. That being said, I personally think 10% is not a bad tip. Before I retrained my rogue from hunting to picking I was tipping 20%, but that is just me.

[kutter]

Because I was bored and sitting around the house waiting for a call from work, I decided to do another experiment, this time a lot more unusual.

I took a young sorcerer I have (lvl 36) and fixskilled him into picking with no spirit spells and 38 each of sorc and elemental. Now pures can apparently only single in disarm, why I have no idea but it was what it was, I felt certain he would die, a lot, ironically not once. At least today anyway.

So I only ran two hours this afternoon but he earned a total of 61406 or 30703/hour. That included the 8 bugs which sold for 23782. He is clearly much slower than my rogue that has mastered lock mastery but I was still a little surprised. The biggest issue I noticed was being a gnome, he ran to the bank A LOT. I might leave him for a couple of weeks, maybe till May since I would have to buy a fixskill to fix him and he seldom gets played. Clearly I am not advocating a sorcerer gnome picker, but hey, it can be done.

[Orthin]

Because I was bored and sitting around the house waiting for a call from work, I decided to do another experiment, this time a lot more unusual.

I took a young sorcerer I have (lvl 36) and fixskilled him into picking with no spirit spells and 38 each of sorc and elemental. Now pures can apparently only single in disarm, why I have no idea but it was what it was, I felt certain he would die, a lot, ironically not once. At least today anyway.

So I only ran two hours this afternoon but he earned a total of 61406 or 30703/hour. That included the 8 bugs which sold for 23782. He is clearly much slower than my rogue that has mastered lock mastery but I was still a little surprised. The biggest issue I noticed was being a gnome, he ran to the bank A LOT. I might leave him for a couple of weeks, maybe till May since I would have to buy a fixskill to fix him and he seldom gets played. Clearly I am not advocating a sorcerer gnome picker, but hey, it can be done.

With the lockpick pool really any class can pick because the system is based off your abilities. You will have overall less to pick from in terms of turning away work, but with how the system was built anyone can give it a go with training (which I think is nice for those that like to pick)

[Archigeek]

I tip 2k a box, it's still a savings from what I would have had to pay at the town locksmith, where the average was probably close to 3500 per box.

I don't really know what you can see on the picker's end, but you should be able to see what the tip is and pass on shitty tips without penalty.

[Palcron]

They should write in something like if the tip is less than 5% the value of the box, there's no penalty to decline. It will get picked eventually since some people really do only care about the exp, but it won't hurt those who pick for a living.

[Gizmo]

I tip 2k a box, it's still a savings from what I would have had to pay at the town locksmith, where the average was probably close to 3500 per box.

I don't really know what you can see on the picker's end, but you should be able to see what the tip is and pass on shitty tips without penalty.

Sadly, if we pass, we get a penalty...Supposedly that's done to thwart spam of refusing/getting new boxes.

Which all would be circumvented if they just enabled a god damn minimum tip acceptance box. If all that is left in the pool are 1 tip boxes, and I have my tip minimum set to say 100....I should just be given the same message from the worker that occurs when there are no boxes in the pool for me.

They never do any testing on these systems anymore or think, Hey what do we think prime will do if we let them tip just 1 silver per box? DUH HERP DERP

At this rate, may as well let them tip 0 silver and just make it a free service, right? No need to test such a thing, clearly it will be marvelous for all parties involved!

In the end, I open every box I get. If I refuse any, I'm just refusing myself exp at that point.

[kutter]

I suppose the thing that I struggle with the most is who is actually tipping 1 silver. It is not those hunting pookas or even sheruvians. Every single box I have seen has been from a 90+ critter, the very people in the game that have the silver, it is just sad.

I have mixed emotions about simu stepping in and implementing a fix, specifically a minimum tip, if they simply would not penalize us so much for turning down boxes that would be the simplest thing, the issue would be resolved.

[Methais]

I've noticed the 1 silver tippers, and I believe that they are from lootcapped bots or whoever, since they don't really show up until around mid-month or a bit before.

If they're loot capped, where are they getting boxes from?

I'll tip 1k per box, and I also do a lot of picking, usually with 1 RT, so I plow through boxes pretty quickly.

I assure you that rogues are not getting rich off the pool. Other than scarabs, it seems pretty trash overall to be honest.

[Rinualdo]

Looks like Naijin made an update


Hey all,The locksmith pool has been updated to allow for a minimum silver amount when requesting a job. A cooldown of 10 seconds has been added before if there are no jobs available. This was added to ensure performance stays smooth.For example, ASK <NPC> FOR JOB MINIMUM 1000 would require a minimum tip of 1,000 silvers. Enjoy!

[Fortybox]

So, I was curios about real numbers from the pool, so I did a 3 hour test tonight (Saturday) from 8PM to 11PM, and if anyone thinks rogues are getting rich, they are kidding themselves and if you tell me you are making a million silvers a day, then you are scripting for 24 hours.

For background, my rogue is 91, he has 210 ranks in picking skills so he is about 2.4/level. His settings are not super aggressive on tpick so he will occasionally turn down boxes but not more than about 2 an hour. I set tpick to not refuse any boxes due to tips, so here are the results:

171 boxes picked with 69089 in tips
13 scarabs worth 57159
Total earned 126132 or 738 silvers/box and 42044/hour
Just as an extra 7 or 4.1% of the people felt the need to tip 1 silver, thanks cheapskates

So can you make 1M/day? Sure if you script for 24 hours, that is the only way to do it.

Take it for what you will.

I don't think anyone is saying you can make 1m in a short amount of time.

1m a day is doable and yes, that is pretty much picking full time. The majority of that comes from the scarabs.

[kutter]

Looks like Naijin made an update

Now we just need tpick updated


I don't think anyone is saying you can make 1m in a short amount of time.

1m a day is doable and yes, that is pretty much picking full time. The majority of that comes from the scarabs.

Admittedly a 3 hour sample is not all that long a sample, but I think it gives a fair estimate of what is possible, so it is possible to make 1,009,056 silvers in a day if you pick for 24 hours straight but clearly no one is doing that for multiple day stretches unless they are AFK scripting. So can you make silvers, sure, is it legal, does it violate policy? Pretty sure it does.

But to each is own, if you think it is worth the risk, then that is your choice.

[Archigeek]

Looks like Naijin made an update

Nice update.

[Viekn]

Nice update.

Can someone post the details of the update? I'm assuming it was announced on Discord because I don't see anything on the GS homepage.

[Velfi]

If they're loot capped, where are they getting boxes from?

Uh, from where they normally hunt? I've never even been close to lootcapped, but from my understanding of it your mobs will still drop boxes, but instead of say 5000 silvers in there, there might just be 5 now, they're set to tip 20%, and now they've just tipped you 20% of those 5 silvers.

[Methais]

Can someone post the details of the update? I'm assuming it was announced on Discord because I don't see anything on the GS homepage.

Simu sucks at announcing shit unless you live on Discord 24/7 and do nothing but lick their balls all day.

I checked NEWS anyway, which had nothing of course, but I did notice this, which kinda kicks ass too:



Dateline 3/25/2021: NEW FLAG: NOAMBIENTMSG

FLAG NoAmbientMsg is now available for use. This flag defaults to OFF and when set prevents seeing ambient messaging from other players. There's also an "Ambients" window available in StormFront, which will redirect any ambient messaging to that window instead. Please note that item scripts must be updated to utilize this new flag. If you see any ambient messaging you shouldn't, please BUGITEM if you have access to the item, or BUG with as much detail as possible.

END NEWS ITEM

[Rinualdo]

Can someone post the details of the update? I'm assuming it was announced on Discord because I don't see anything on the GS homepage.

It was literally quoted in the post I made?

[Methais]

It was literally quoted in the post I made?

I think Viekn means a link to the original post.

[Viekn]

It was literally quoted in the post I made?


I think Viekn means a link to the original post.

No, I meant the general details. Rinualdo I swear those details weren't in your post originally like they are now, were they? Because I certainly did not see that part, unless that's what you updated the post with. I def wouldn't have asked for details if I'd seen them posted. I feel like Rinualdo's having a bit of fun with me.

And that is an awesome update. Rogues should definitely not be penalized for setting a minimum tip acceptable for their work.

[Gelston]

No, I meant the general details. Rinualdo I swear those details weren't in your post originally like they are now, were they? Because I certainly did not see that part, unless that's what you updated the post with. I def wouldn't have asked for details if I'd seen them posted. I feel like Rinualdo's having a bit of fun with me.

And that is an awesome update. Rogues should definitely not be penalized for setting a minimum tip acceptable for their work.

They were there. You likely only read Archigeek's quote of the post which didn't include the additional info.

[Rinualdo]

Not poking fun at you. I only made a grammatical edit right after I posted.


Here's the forum post

http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/General%20GemStone%20IV%20Discussion/General%20Discussion%20about%20Gemstone%20IV/view/4823

[Viekn]

They were there. You likely only read Archigeek's quote of the post which didn't include the additional info.


Not poking fun at you. I only made a grammatical edit right after I posted.

Here's the forum post

http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/General%20GemStone%20IV%20Discussion/General%20Discussion%20about%20Gemstone%20IV/view/4823

Lol, thanks guys. That must have been what happened.

[kutter]

Not sure why it only just occurred to me, but there is no way for us as players to fix this, because people that are still working on lock mastery are going to pick anything to get reps, seems there really is no honor among thieves. Not really, I cannot blame them, lock mastery without the pool and without halving all points and guild night was a HUGE grind that I would not even wish on the crappy tippers, well maybe a little on them:biggrin:

[Fortybox]

Now we just need tpick updated



Admittedly a 3 hour sample is not all that long a sample, but I think it gives a fair estimate of what is possible, so it is possible to make 1,009,056 silvers in a day if you pick for 24 hours straight but clearly no one is doing that for multiple day stretches unless they are AFK scripting. So can you make silvers, sure, is it legal, does it violate policy? Pretty sure it does.

But to each is own, if you think it is worth the risk, then that is your choice.

I make more than that less than 24 hours a day.

[Fortybox]

Not sure why it only just occurred to me, but there is no way for us as players to fix this, because people that are still working on lock mastery are going to pick anything to get reps, seems there really is no honor among thieves. Not really, I cannot blame them, lock mastery without the pool and without halving all points and guild night was a HUGE grind that I would not even wish on the crappy tippers, well maybe a little on them:biggrin:

At least with this update it will be the locksmiths fault for driving pricing lower...not Naijin's meddling with the system. That was always my issue. Let the market decide.

[Nothing]

Heh, I never pick during prime hours. There are so many others working the pool then that it's just too distracting (even in towns outside the Landing) and the ratio of pickers to hunters is so high 75% of the boxes give you crap tips.

Picking just about any time of day outside peek hours, I can usually go for quite a while before seeing anything with a tip below 500 silver. I'm not making 1m/day... but I'm easily seeing more then double what's in the OP most days.

[kutter]

Well it is off peak now and I just turned down 9 capped or near cap boxes all with tips less than 100 silvers, someone else can risk their pick or death, of course the pick is likely more of a penalty than death, but it is not worth it to me.

Now here is the thing I find REALLY annoying, the system made we wait 10 minutes to get more boxes, I picked two and then it offered those same 9 boxes to me again and now it is making me wait, again. Now this is some fucked up Simu bullshit right there I already turned them down, why are you offering them to me again.

Well it looks like 9 in the number of boxes you can refuse before making you wait 10 minutes, since it just did it again, time to log out and pick later.

[Fortybox]

Well it is off peak now and I just turned down 9 capped or near cap boxes all with tips less than 100 silvers, someone else can risk their pick or death, of course the pick is likely more of a penalty than death, but it is not worth it to me.

Now here is the thing I find REALLY annoying, the system made we wait 10 minutes to get more boxes, I picked two and then it offered those same 9 boxes to me again and now it is making me wait, again. Now this is some fucked up Simu bullshit right there I already turned them down, why are you offering them to me again.

Well it looks like 9 in the number of boxes you can refuse before making you wait 10 minutes, since it just did it again, time to log out and pick later.

It means there isn’t any other boxes available to you.

Get water lore. It prevents damage to your lockpick.

[Methais]

Well it is off peak now and I just turned down 9 capped or near cap boxes all with tips less than 100 silvers, someone else can risk their pick or death, of course the pick is likely more of a penalty than death, but it is not worth it to me.

Now here is the thing I find REALLY annoying, the system made we wait 10 minutes to get more boxes, I picked two and then it offered those same 9 boxes to me again and now it is making me wait, again. Now this is some fucked up Simu bullshit right there I already turned them down, why are you offering them to me again.

Well it looks like 9 in the number of boxes you can refuse before making you wait 10 minutes, since it just did it again, time to log out and pick later.

Go post that in Discord so Naijin can reply and be condescending.


It means there isn’t any other boxes available to you.

Get water lore. It prevents damage to your lockpick.


Unless it was this, in which case nevermind.

I like how water lore is more useful for rogues than it is for wizards though. :lol:

[Bryce]

In your test when your mind was fried are you using LTE’s and/or Instant Mind clear boosts? If you are fried you have to wait to pick more boxes from the pool which slows down how many boxes per hour you can pick.

[Bryce]

In your test when your mind was fried are you using LTE’s and/or Instant Mind clear boosts? If you are fried you have to wait to pick more boxes from the pool which slows down how many boxes per hour you can pick. This is unrelated to the additional 10 minute wait.

[Gelston]

Unless it was this, in which case nevermind.

I like how water lore is more useful for rogues than it is for wizards though. :lol:

It is extremely helpful if you want to be a mage of the deep.

[Tgo01]

In your test when your mind was fried are you using LTE’s and/or Instant Mind clear boosts? If you are fried you have to wait to pick more boxes from the pool which slows down how many boxes per hour you can pick.

The pool won't let you get boxes if you are fried? That is interesting and I did not know that. I guess it makes sense.

[Bryce]

The pool won't let you get boxes if you are fried? That is interesting and I did not know that. I guess it makes sense.

Fully fried or saturated not right when it jumps to must rest. Here is the syntax if it helps: Fredar says, "You've done enough for a while. Why don't you rest your mind a bit?"



If only tpick had in the 'Experience Tab' an option for table rest room number and pick location like bigshot :-)

[Tgo01]

Fully fried or saturated not right when it jumps to must rest. Here is the syntax if it helps: Fredar says, "You've done enough for a while. Why don't you rest your mind a bit?"



If only tpick had in the 'Experience Tab' an option for table rest room number and pick location like bigshot :-)

That's an idea. If only we knew the author of ;tpick.

[Bryce]

Silver hidden in the code,
Young giantman hidden in the old,
Laughing madman with weeping eyes,
Bring the King 10m silver if the code before ten suns rise


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[kutter]

Fully fried or saturated not right when it jumps to must rest. Here is the syntax if it helps: Fredar says, "You've done enough for a while. Why don't you rest your mind a bit?"



If only tpick had in the 'Experience Tab' an option for table rest room number and pick location like bigshot :-)

I have never seen that verbiage while picking. For the purposes of this test I set tpick to always pick even when fried and on a couple of occasions I used an LTE to get him down away from 100%. The only time I was not picking is if I get a cooldown from picking to many in a row.

[Tgo01]

Fully fried or saturated not right when it jumps to must rest. Here is the syntax if it helps: Fredar says, "You've done enough for a while. Why don't you rest your mind a bit?"

Hmm, it's for sure not when you're fully fried (might be when you're saturated though.) I did 5 or 6 boxes at fried before I got the "rest your mind" message. But being fried does seem to put a limit on it, probably like you can only do 5 boxes at fried before the worker cuts you off for a while.

Interestingly enough after 2 minutes and still being fried the worker allowed me to do 2 more boxes before cutting me off again.

Also it looks like the pool rooms are already nodes/super nodes, unless it's just the Icemule pool or Lich is wrong.

[Bryce]

Hmm, it's for sure not when you're fully fried (might be when you're saturated though.) I did 5 or 6 boxes at fried before I got the "rest your mind" message. But being fried does seem to put a limit on it, probably like you can only do 5 boxes at fried before the worker cuts you off for a while.

Interestingly enough after 2 minutes and still being fried the worker allowed me to do 2 more boxes before cutting me off again.

Also it looks like the pool rooms are already nodes/super nodes, unless it's just the Icemule pool or Lich is wrong.

That makes more sense and I am not sure how long that feature has even been at the pool. Maybe a few months or maybe always? After noticing it I started
to turn on ;LTE and ;Tpick goes to town! Both towns locksmith pools in EN are also super nodes. The problem there is that traps are getting set off pretty regularly and it is not a safe place to rest when the pool forces us to take a break. That is what made me think of the rest option.


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[Tgo01]

That makes more sense and I am not sure how long that feature has even been at the pool. Maybe a few months or maybe always? After noticing it I started
to turn on ;LTE and ;Tpick goes to town! Both towns locksmith pools in EN are also super nodes. The problem there is that traps are getting set off pretty regularly and it is not a safe place to rest when the pool forces us to take a break. That is what made me think of the rest option.


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Why people setting off so many traps? :O

[Bryce]

Why people setting off so many traps? :O

That is a very good question. There are a couple everyday and it’s usually scarabs.


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[Tgo01]

Next version of ;tpick is gonna take out all the guess work of how many silvers you make per hour!

[tpick: Time spent pool picking this session: 00:15:44, silvers earned: 10462, silvers earned per hour: 39,863]
[tpick: Total actual time spent pool picking this session (not including waiting periods): 00:10:44, silvers earned: 10462, silvers earned per hour: 58,410]
[tpick: Total time spent pool picking: 00:27:03, silvers earned: 13615, silvers earned per hour: 30,198]
[tpick: Total actual time spent pool picking (not including waiting periods): 00:22:03, silvers earned: 10462, silvers earned per hour: 37,046]

Also I just noticed a bug in that log so I fixed it and added commas to the silvers earned.

[Bryce]

Next version of ;tpick is gonna take out all the guess work of how many silvers you make per hour!

[tpick: Time spent pool picking this session: 00:15:44, silvers earned: 10462, silvers earned per hour: 39,863]
[tpick: Total actual time spent pool picking this session (not including waiting periods): 00:10:44, silvers earned: 10462, silvers earned per hour: 58,410]
[tpick: Total time spent pool picking: 00:27:03, silvers earned: 13615, silvers earned per hour: 30,198]
[tpick: Total actual time spent pool picking (not including waiting periods): 00:22:03, silvers earned: 10462, silvers earned per hour: 37,046]

Also I just noticed a bug in that log so I fixed it and added commas to the silvers earned.

Wow very nice!

[Methais]

Hmm, it's for sure not when you're fully fried (might be when you're saturated though.) I did 5 or 6 boxes at fried before I got the "rest your mind" message. But being fried does seem to put a limit on it, probably like you can only do 5 boxes at fried before the worker cuts you off for a while.

Interestingly enough after 2 minutes and still being fried the worker allowed me to do 2 more boxes before cutting me off again.

Also it looks like the pool rooms are already nodes/super nodes, unless it's just the Icemule pool or Lich is wrong.

Being fried doesn't necessarily mean your bucket is 100% full.

Once your bucket is 100% full, you stop getting boxes.

[Bryce]

Being fried doesn't necessarily mean your bucket is 100% full.

Once your bucket is 100% full, you stop getting boxes.

In my earlier post I should have used “full bucket” instead of “fully fried”. Thank you for explaining better Methais and sorry for the confusion Tgo01


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