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Bryce
03-18-2021, 05:16 PM
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hamsquatch
03-18-2021, 05:20 PM
I’m not familiar, what is it?

Gizmo
03-18-2021, 05:21 PM
I’m not familiar, what is it?

Glamour Crystal on the wiki will answer you

Kinda pricey IMO now a days, given shimmer trinkets exist and can do similar, not entirely the same but yeaa...Before this was almost the only way to hides one features/inventory.

But now with shimmer trinkets, and shroud...meh..If it wasn't for those things, I'd probably buy one at one point

Bryce
03-18-2021, 05:33 PM
Glamour Crystal on the wiki will answer you

Kinda pricey IMO now a days, given shimmer trinkets exist and can do similar, not entirely the same but yeaa...Before this was almost the only way to hides one features/inventory.

But now with shimmer trinkets, and shroud...meh..If it wasn't for those things, I'd probably buy one at one point

A shimmer trinket is nothing like a glamour crystal. Shimmer trinkets only allow you to hide stuff you are wearing. In addition they have charges and need to be recharged. https://gswiki.play.net/Shimmer_Trinket

Gizmo
03-18-2021, 05:35 PM
A shimmer trinket is nothing like a glamour crystal. Shimmer trinkets only allow you to hide stuff you are wearing.
https://gswiki.play.net/Shimmer_Trinket

Again, I said similar.

Shimmer trinkets basically allow you to choose an outfit, while hiding everything else...

The crystal just hides everything and makes you a hooded figure in robes...Which I can get close enough to with a shimmer trinket, is what I'm saying. I know what they do heh

The only difference is hidden features/hands/inventory fully when looked at in a crystal, vs shown features/hands/custom inventory when looked at (Which I pretty much consider the same in the latter portion of items)

And IMO, something like that would obviously be sick for PVP but well...Gemstone...

I just think the price on them is lower, again in my eyes, due to Shimmer Trinkets, Relic Pins, sex changing trinkets, spells now etc that exist to do somewhat similar RP like things

Bryce
03-18-2021, 05:41 PM
Again, I said similar.

Shimmer trinkets basically allow you to choose an outfit, while hiding everything else...

The crystal just hides everything and makes you a hooded figure in robes...Which I can get close enough to with a shimmer trinket, is what I'm saying. I know what they do heh

The only difference is hidden features/hands/inventory fully when looked at in a crystal, vs shown features/hands/custom inventory when looked at (Which I pretty much consider the same in the latter portion of items)

And IMO, something like that would obviously be sick for PVP but well...Gemstone...

I just think the price on them is lower, again in my eyes, due to Shimmer Trinkets, Relic Pins, sex changing trinkets, spells now etc that exist to do somewhat similar RP like things

I think you mean a Moonshard Pendant and not a shimmer trinket. They are nothing alike as the shimmer trinket only makes outfit changes.

Gizmo
03-18-2021, 05:47 PM
I think you mean a Moonshard Pendant and not a shimmer trinket. They are nothing alike.

Did you not read anything I said? lol

If I wanted to look like a figure wearing hooded robes, I could do similar with a shimmer trinket....Again, please read what I said...I'm not talking about moonshard pendants turning me into Donkies. I'm talking about the ability to customize and wear whatever I want, while still wearing everything else hidden away, with a shimmer trinket.

Which is ALMOST what a glamour crystal does, with some few exceptions already mentioned. From an RP standpoint, which is pretty much why people would want to use a glamour crystal for the most part, you can actually pull off some wild stuff now a days for less, with a lot more items now at our disposal.

Will you be literally an austere/color changing figure in hooded robes when looked at? No, but you can be a lot of other stuff with similar outcome, not exact, but similar.

The downside to the crystal, from an RP point of view, is any other cool feature altering items you could be wearing, like horns...claws...fairy shit etc, will not be shown/hidden as well

Bryce
03-18-2021, 05:51 PM
Did you not read anything I said? lol

If I wanted to look like a figure wearing hooded robes, I could do similar with a shimmer trinket....Again, please read what I said...I'm not talking about moonshard pendants turning me into Donkies. I'm talking about the ability to customize and wear whatever I want, while still wearing everything else hidden away, with a shimmer trinket.

Which is ALMOST what a glamour crystal does, with some few exceptions already mentioned

You could not look like someone wearing a glamour crystal no matter what you do with all the stuff you mentioned. The ONLY thing you can hide with a shimmer trinket is gear. The only item "similar" to a glamour crystal would be a Moonshard pendant (which are around the same price with a legendary runes).

The closest item to a shimmer trinket that I can think of is a Griffons Pin. Those are similiar

Gizmo
03-18-2021, 05:52 PM
You could not look like someone wearing a glamour crystal no matter what you do with all the stuff you mentioned. The ONLY thing you can hide with a shimmer trinket is gear. The only item "similar" to a glamour crystal would be a Moonshard pendant (which are around the same price with a legendary runes).

You're missing my point, that's obvious now

Bryce
03-18-2021, 05:57 PM
I am not sure what your point is to be honest lol. Comparing a shimmer trinket to glamour crystal would be like comparing a Dwarf to summoned mana bread. They both exist in Gemstone :-)

Gizmo
03-18-2021, 06:07 PM
I am not sure what your point is to be honest lol. Comparing a shimmer trinket to glamour crystal would be like comparing a Dwarf to summoned mana bread. They both exist in Gemstone :-)

Good answer.

I wish these things kinda were updated to reflect more options when wearing them...like not just the color of a damn robe...But also offer maybe a few slight options for various slots of things...Like hair, unique facial items perhaps etc...

IE: look Bryce

You see a slightly tall, confident figure with wisps of white hair peeking out from the shadows of his hooded austere robes.

look Bryce

You see a large, rotund overshadowing figure with a glint of silver drawing out from the shadows of his hooded purple robes

Where one could change height, posture, weight, hair profile, facial distinguishing marks etc

zhagen
03-18-2021, 06:10 PM
I feel like people buy glamour crystals more for the "mystery factor" and less for the shimmer trinket "I want to hide or organize my look" factor

Gizmo
03-18-2021, 06:13 PM
I feel like people buy glamour crystals more for the "mystery factor" and less for the shimmer trinket "I want to hide or organize my look" factor

The only reason to buy one is to hide everything when people look at you.

The sad thing is these don't disguise you as you enter/leave rooms, do any actions in a room, or just appear in the room list. If it did, I'd see a larger value in them.

If I want to organize my look, I prefer the new ways to the old

Bryce
03-18-2021, 06:26 PM
The only reason to buy one is to hide everything when people look at you.

The sad thing is these don't disguise you as you enter/leave rooms, do any actions in a room, or just appear in the room list. If it did, I'd see a larger value in them.

If I want to organize my look, I prefer the new ways to the old

They also will allow NO changes of any kind to be made to these by any merchant ever. I am not sure why though because there is tons of potential cash they could make.

zhagen
03-18-2021, 06:32 PM
Still... when you LOOK at a person who you have never seen before, you get a general "feel" or familiarity with them based on what they are wearing. If someone has a shimmer trinket on then their look might be more "well maintained/organized/less-cluttered" but when you LOOK and get "You see a slightly tall, confident figure with wisps of white hair peeking out from the shadows of his hooded austere robes." then you get a unique feeling of mystery/power/specialness..... I think that would be one of the main factors (FYI - I have never owned one)

Gizmo
03-18-2021, 06:41 PM
Still... when you LOOK at a person who you have never seen before, you get a general "feel" or familiarity with them based on what they are wearing. If someone has a shimmer trinket on then their look might be more "well maintained/organized/less-cluttered" but when you LOOK and get "You see a slightly tall, confident figure with wisps of white hair peeking out from the shadows of his hooded austere robes." then you get a unique feeling of mystery/power/specialness..... I think that would be one of the main factors (FYI - I have never owned one)

The glamour rubs off, especially once you know the player name, and what profession they are etc etc...It would be much more enjoyable if it hid the player name per say..

IMO, this game has ALWAYS needed the GREET feature/function almost all old school MUDs have. That would be amazing

Velfi
03-18-2021, 06:55 PM
When I use my dark crystal I feel too spooky and have to turn it off.

C.Difficile
03-18-2021, 06:56 PM
The only reason to buy one is to hide everything when people look at you.

The sad thing is these don't disguise you as you enter/leave rooms, do any actions in a room, or just appear in the room list. If it did, I'd see a larger value in them.

If I want to organize my look, I prefer the new ways to the old

You don't get it. People sometimes try to argue the utility of luxury items. Like how people will say "ooh a $70,000 Corvette will totally blow a Bentley off the line, Id rather have a Corvette" all the while missing the point that the whole point of owning a Bentley is owning a Bentley, having others know it and has nothing or little to do with its practical use. Typicaly those are also people that can never afford said Bentley.

Well, the glamour crystal is the Bentley of GS4. Sure you can get a super nice Hyundai Genesis (shimmer trinket) thats 80% as functional and 5% of the cost but it will never be a Bentley.

Velfi
03-18-2021, 06:56 PM
You don't get it. People sometimes try to argue the utility of luxury items. Like how people will say "ooh a $70,000 Corvette will totally blow a Bentley off the line, Id rather have a Corvette" all the while missing the point that the whole point of owning a Bentley is owning a Bentley, having others know it and has nothing or little to do with its practical use. Typicaly those are also people that can never afford said Bentley.

Well, the glamour crystal is the Bentley of GS4. Sure you can get a super nice Hyundai Genesis (shimmer trinket) thats 80% as functional and 5% of the cost but it will never be a Bentley.

You can also be spooky with them.

SonoftheNorth
03-18-2021, 06:59 PM
the whole point of owning a Bentley is owning a Bentley

This is the most ironic thing I've ever read.

Wizardstrikes3
03-18-2021, 07:14 PM
You don't get it. People sometimes try to argue the utility of luxury items. Like how people will say "ooh a $70,000 Corvette will totally blow a Bentley off the line, Id rather have a Corvette" all the while missing the point that the whole point of owning a Bentley is owning a Bentley, having others know it and has nothing or little to do with its practical use. Typicaly those are also people that can never afford said Bentley.

Well, the glamour crystal is the Bentley of GS4. Sure you can get a super nice Hyundai Genesis (shimmer trinket) thats 80% as functional and 5% of the cost but it will never be a Bentley.

A 2020 top of the line corvette ZR1 does the quarter mile in 11.2 seconds with a top speed of only 194mph. Top of the line Bentley Speed does it in 10.2 seconds with a top speed of 207mph. A Bentley will blow a corvette off the road in the quarter mile, half mile, and mile. In addition it gets to top speed 11 seconds faster. The cheapest Bentley is faster than the most expensive corvette.

zhagen
03-18-2021, 08:08 PM
Haha, this 1 sales post has sparked Shimmer vs. Glamour debates AND Corvettes vs. Bentley debates.... epic thread

Velfi
03-18-2021, 08:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/4e8nrRo.gif

Murrandii
03-19-2021, 05:45 PM
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Hi Pathragers, glad your 'brother' and yourself are cashing out before another 6 months ban, wink wink.

If you wanna join us quitters in WoW, pop me, we'll gladly welcome you aboard. Just a warning, though, there's no LNET BS there lol

gs4Pawn
03-19-2021, 06:04 PM
Wow is for sissys

Wizardstrikes3
03-20-2021, 07:27 PM
Hi Pathragers, glad your 'brother' and yourself are cashing out before another 6 months ban, wink wink.

If you wanna join us quitters in WoW, pop me, we'll gladly welcome you aboard. Just a warning, though, there's no LNET BS there lol

winners never quit so I won’t be quitting gemstone thanks also thanks for the invite but WOW is not very fun anymore for me but a better question is why are monitoring forums for a game you don’t play LOL?

Murrandii
03-21-2021, 10:14 AM
winners never quit so I won’t be quitting gemstone thanks also thanks for the invite but WOW is not very fun anymore for me but a better question is why are monitoring forums for a game you don’t play LOL?

Why 2 accounts on pc now, Bryce / wizardstrikes3

To answer your questions, I made buddies from this game bro, PC is also known as a service that offers ONLY the truth.

I'm even sure that more than 50%+1 off pc people are not even playing the game anymore LOL

Wizardstrikes3
03-21-2021, 02:42 PM
i dont even know what that means but i hope you have fun in world of warcraft or whatever you do but dont forget life is too short to always be unhappy and don’t let the grumpy bugs consume you cause nobody likes a grumpy stiltskins i hope maybe we will cross paths again in barrens chat or maybe we already have :-). wish you the love of the manatee (if you didnt know they are gentle giants) and i mean that from my bottom of my heartmeats

and lastly dont give into pier pressure and best of luck my friend as there can be only one

Velfi
03-21-2021, 02:49 PM
i dont even know what that means but i hope you have fun in world of warcraft or whatever you do but dont forget life is too short to always be unhappy and don’t let the grumpy bugs consume you cause nobody likes a grumpy stiltskins i hope maybe we will cross paths again in barrens chat or maybe we already have :-). wish you the love of the manatee (if you didnt know they are gentle giants) and i mean that from my bottom of my heartmeats

and lastly dont give into pier pressure and best of luck my friend as there can be only one

I'm certainly not out here defending Murandii or whatever the fuck is going on here, but "I don't even know what 2 accounts means" ? This isn't 14th century English.

Neveragain
03-21-2021, 03:38 PM
A 2020 top of the line corvette ZR1 does the quarter mile in 11.2 seconds with a top speed of only 194mph. Top of the line Bentley Speed does it in 10.2 seconds with a top speed of 207mph. A Bentley will blow a corvette off the road in the quarter mile, half mile, and mile. In addition it gets to top speed 11 seconds faster. The cheapest Bentley is faster than the most expensive corvette.

Corvettes are junk. They look cool, especially the old stingrays but they are junk.

Murrandii
03-21-2021, 05:27 PM
I'm certainly not out here defending Murandii or whatever the fuck is going on here, but "I don't even know what 2 accounts means" ? This isn't 14th century English.

Pathragers (logged on pc as Bryce or that Wizardstrikes3 weird new name) has always acted as if he never understand that shit bro, don't act surprised.

Nobody cares that he's selling his shit in panick cause he got banned and the kinda immunity whales had in the past is gone since SIMU has their head influated with Covid thinking they'll keep their 900 players.

Path, for real, nobody cares you ain't really an IRL millionnaire bro. There so many losers lying (zaoloo for instance). Become a real man and stop lying.

Wizardstrikes3
03-21-2021, 06:10 PM
you care...after all this time....you still seem triggered or you wouldnt have hijacked my brothers post in a game you dont play anymore to tell everyone how you feel. ....did your two “inside sources” that first told you i was ban and then told you i died also tell you i was quitting? i would ask for your money back because your “inside sources” lied to you and they are 0 for 3 in wild guesses and that is all i have to say about that but please continue getting your feelings out cause everyone knows too many feelings leads to the the grumpybugs and them are bad

Gizmo
03-21-2021, 06:37 PM
So this is what it's like to spectate the Special Olympics Debate Team...

Murrandii
03-21-2021, 08:35 PM
you care...after all this time....you still seem triggered or you wouldnt have hijacked my brothers post in a game you dont play anymore to tell everyone how you feel. ....did your two “inside sources” that first told you i was ban and then told you i died also tell you i was quitting? i would ask for your money back because your “inside sources” lied to you and they are 0 for 3 in wild guesses and that is all i have to say about that but please continue getting your feelings out cause everyone knows too many feelings leads to the the grumpybugs and them are bad

tabarnak, you're triggered, Pathragers LOL