View Full Version : So. My exhusband is an asshole. Whadahyathink??
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 06:44 PM
I decided to keep this private. Sorry!
:-X
Keep the condo, have a garage sale, and give him the 5k with a restraining order on top.
Actually, it may be the opportune time to ask for a date, D. Successful woman, sense of humor...
The Cat In The Hat
04-11-2005, 06:58 PM
Well, I read this because I'm facing a divorce. My husband is starting to get mean, so i know what thats like. I say if you have the power and you can - Do.
Take it all.
*This post may or may not be a reflection of my current feelings for my soon to be X, who I am currently extremely pissed at.
[Edited on 4-11-2005 by The Cat In The Hat]
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
......
Aren't you 22 or 23?
Originally posted by Backlash
Actually, it may be the opportune time to ask for a date, D. Successful woman, sense of humor...
Well, I usually try and get what I want up front.
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 07:01 PM
:-X
According to the prenup, the only thing you have to give him is a hard time and a clear path to the nearest exit.
Snapp
04-11-2005, 07:04 PM
So basically he doesn't have a leg to stand on with this lawsuit? Is he dense? Doesn't he realize you could take it all? What a dumbass. Your Power Rangers should shout "It's Morphin Time!!!" and pwn his ass.
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 07:05 PM
Hmm. Secrets!
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
Originally posted by Drew
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
......
Aren't you 22 or 23?
22 almost 23
When did you get married?
And how did you have a house and condo? Is dad loaded? (nothing wrong with that, just curious)
Farquar
04-11-2005, 07:08 PM
I don't know much about family law, and I'm not a big fan of Texas and Texans in general, but the fact that you were ruthless, cunning, and had the intellect and foreseight to have such an indomitable prenup makes me very :loveu:.
To digress though, I'm sure it was you and your "power rangers" that initiated the prenup, and I'm doubly sure you've covered your bases. Assuming he had a lawyer when he signed though, I couldn't see any halfway decent attorney letting him agree to sign the agreement. He might have grounds for a malpractice suit if his lawyer did. On the other hand, if he didn't have legal rep. when he signed, it could be grounds to have the whole thing tossed out.
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 07:14 PM
:-X
hectomaner
04-11-2005, 07:20 PM
so you had a house, have another condo, and obviously a loaded family, or some job that i NEED to get in on.
and yet your checks bounce when you try go buy silver for gemstone? somethins a little wacky here....
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 07:22 PM
:-X
Depending on how inept his lawyer is, he might try to make a teeny tiny case out of how you gave your deadbeat ex all that stuff in the first place despite the prenup and it might constitute a null and void because you didn't press your rights and thus gave them up. A friend of mine had that happen to her. But it'll never work. It'll just waste your time.
If you're up for the battle, I say stick it to 'im. Stupidity deserves to be punished.
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
I dont do garage sales, Backlash, but the purple heart was quicker and anonymous.
Ah, and probably better as a tax write off anyway. Shrewd.
Snapp
04-11-2005, 07:39 PM
Happy 4000th post, Backlash. :D
Brattt8525
04-11-2005, 07:40 PM
I have a lake in my backyard, no one would miss him right?
According to your pre-nup he is screwed, and your mad take solice in the fact that he loses at life and you don't! And go have some celebration sex.
Backlash's avatar is so cute and full of cup-shaped fluffy kittenness that I have a hard time reading his actual posts.
hectomaner
04-11-2005, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
Yep. Paypals a bitch. ;)
*unauthorized credit card or somesuch nonsense.
wait. how the hell did you know that???
[Edited on 4-11-2005 by JihnasSpirit]
yeah my account is screwed with paypal too for some reason, my BOA account ALWAYS rejects paypal stuff, like me sending, but works fine recieving, sucks, had to open an account at another bank for it
Originally posted by Snapp
Happy 4000th post, Backlash. :D
Good eye, man.
:2beers:
Now back to the further adventures of shrewd, professional and available women.
SiKWiDiT
04-11-2005, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
*The power rangers are actually a small firm of motivated lawyers whose number we (we = daddy dearest and I) keep on hand for legal advice or emergencies. We pay for the work of several lawyers but 5 always show up.
To keep things from turning messy I have however had all my security codes changed and locks to storage, houses, condos changed.
I asked him expressly the day of moving, "Do you have everything you need or want from the houses David?" and he said "Yes".
Funny, I hadnt known he even knew about my Woodlands condo let alone had a key.
$5000 dollars is what hes suing me for. Which I would have given if he would have asked.
You have absolutely nothing to be pissed about.
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 07:54 PM
:-X
Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-11-2005, 08:03 PM
Best thing to do would be to get on with life. If you are half as successful as you say, and as young as you say, I'd get on with having shitloads of fun :)
If you really are that successful, give him 5k and make it contingent that he never contacts you again, if that is possible.
Warriorbird
04-11-2005, 08:04 PM
He signed a prenup in Texas. Ha ha ha.
You win.
Soulpieced
04-11-2005, 08:09 PM
Uh, this is a no-brainer. If he wants to be a fucking idiot about it, go ahead and counter-sue to get all the shit back that you gave him in the first place that he did not deserve according to the pre-nup.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-11-2005, 08:11 PM
I'm more a fan of just getting it over with... move on with life. I gave my ex everything she wanted and just ended it (wasn't married but it was easier that way). I can buy new things, rather do that than lose my dignity if a court battle over possessions.
Caiylania
04-11-2005, 08:16 PM
Oiy. He deserves what he gets. Though I must say 5k would be sweet. I so miss my horse :(
errrr I mean. Kick his ass! Legally..... that is.
SiKWiDiT
04-11-2005, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
Why cant human beings just get some sex and move on for christ sake.
Yes plz.
And I was just kidding in my other post. Kick him in the nuts.
Sylph
04-11-2005, 09:40 PM
Well obviously you should seek solice with a hot canadian boy...
<----
In failing that? I'd say countersue or have your lawyers explain to his yellow pages lawyer that he must not have a clue in his head because he will flat out lose.
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
I hate messy breakups. I hear that.
Why cant human beings just get some sex and move on for christ sake. :yes:
He's screwed and you're not. You win.
Jazuela
04-11-2005, 10:21 PM
I'd definitely have the power rangers politely, calmly, and rationally discuss with both the ex and the armadillo...
That they are more than welcome to pursue their case in court, but that you will insist on a jury trial and countersue for the house and everything in it.
OR..he can apologize for being a yutz, ask nicely for his stuff back, and you will be happy to have it returned to him.
Give him the choice. Just like you're supposed to do when you want a child to do an unpleasant chore. Give them a choice of WHICH unpleasant chore they would prefer to do. Either one they pick, the chore gets done. Either one your ex picks, you win.
Jennaen
04-11-2005, 10:24 PM
Hm, yep, I'd suggest the Rangers have a chat with Pages and explain the fact that if he wishes to take this to court, he will in fact most likely lose everything.
Or, if you do indeed just want to be done with this, make a trip to the condo, gather his things, and have them delivered as you said you would.
Personally, I prefer non-messy. My ex and I were together 8 years. I fairly much let him have whatever he wanted when he moved out.. stuff is just stuff, and replaceable. On the other hand, this is the only life you get, it isn't a dress rehearsal.. and I'd rather be living my life than wasting time fighting over stuff that is, in fact, replaceable.
I would suggest, however, if you go the route of just sending his belongings, have the Rangers draw up a nice document detailing all items to be delivered, and make sure it is forwarded to both David and his attorney beforehand, along with a repeated stipulation that he shall instigate no further contact, or a restraining order will be put in place, and you will take him to court for the house and all possessions that were not his at the time of you were wed.
If he is the money-grubber you see today in your annoyed state, I doubt this will be the last contact, if he believes he can continue to pressure you for things, and get what he wants. I'm sure you have an idea whether this will be the case or not, and how best to proceed so you need not repeat this process in the future.
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 10:32 PM
:-X
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 10:36 PM
:-X
Jolena
04-11-2005, 10:40 PM
All this time of knowing each other and I didn't realize you were in Texass, Robin! :lol: You are within traveling distance from me, so watch out girlie.
On topic, give him the 5K or the items, one of the two, and then move me there so you can be my sugar momma. :heart: It's either that or I bring out the monkies damnit. Don't make me, I will. :rant:
Edaarin
04-11-2005, 10:45 PM
How emasculating, depending on a woman for money.
I've never looked at my former uncle-in-law the same way since he divorced my aunt and collects alimony.
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 10:46 PM
:rofl: sugar momma
:heart: Jolena
I feel for ya, really do. I remember when I moved out my mother told me some very wise words, "Never get married too young, because that's the way I lost the best years of my life". She got married at 19 and got divorced in her 30's. I think, while this situation sucks, is a blessing in disguise. You found what what a jerk this bastard is and you're still young. Think of it as a lesson learned! :D
- Arkansb
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 10:54 PM
Secrets! :-X
Hah, well, at least you know what it's like and I now I know get reassured that marriage SUCKS. Just remember that men tend to stay a lot more bitter than women. I swear, it's like a job title.. "Bitter divorced man"
- Arkans
Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-11-2005, 10:58 PM
Well, given that you cared nothing about the marriage and the divorce, I'd really say just give him the 5k and be done with it.
Kind of a callous thing, to say you got married just because you hadn't before. It changes my perspective of you as in a bad situation, into one of you are in the bed you made.
Either way, hope it works out for you. Divorces have got to suck, if breakups are any indication :)
5k can be re-earned easily enough. That's my assessment on money.
- Arkans
Jolena
04-11-2005, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Well, given that you cared nothing about the marriage and the divorce, I'd really say just give him the 5k and be done with it.
Kind of a callous thing, to say you got married just because you hadn't before. It changes my perspective of you as in a bad situation, into one of you are in the bed you made.
Either way, hope it works out for you. Divorces have got to suck, if breakups are any indication :)
Regardless of the reason she got married, or her knowledget that it would end in divorce, he didn't work. She earned 100% of the wages AND he signed a prenup stating she gets it all if she provides over 50% of the household wages. She isn't in a bed she made, she's dealing with an asshole who's in the bed HE made by signing that prenup and not working to take care of himself for future instances such as this.
Hell he got a house, his computer and tons of other things out of her own generosity because she cared. :rolleyes:
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 11:11 PM
:yeahthat:
i am the good one, he is bad. rah.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
04-11-2005, 11:18 PM
LOL. Hey, just giving you my totally unprofession, lawyer free internet assessment of someone who got married and posted very limited information about that marriage. A person who by her own admission did it (got married) because she hadn't before. Take that for the free 20 seconds it took me to write this.
I'm just not going to join in the bandwagon of bashing some guy I don't know based on the few posts here. And I'm not bashing you JihnasSpirit, if it appears that way. Just saying if you don't care, didn't care, well hell, give him 5k and get on with not caring.
4a6c1
04-11-2005, 11:36 PM
:-X
Atlanteax
04-12-2005, 12:07 AM
Robin,
It could be in some inexplicitable way that he has convinced himself that if he makes a fight of it, that you'll relent and get back together with him (assuming you were the one who initially filed), and then he can again mooching off you again (you said you had 100% of the income).
I can't see a reason why he'd otherwise shoot himself in the foot.
.
I'd take back the house, but let him hold onto the computer or a few things.
There's no reason why you should not ensure yourself a leg up for the rest of your life because some moron that passes for scum figured that he could mooch off you for the rest of your life and treat you badly (another assumption) while at it.
.
At least the marriage is over now rather than later?
Keller
04-12-2005, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
LOL. Hey, just giving you my totally unprofession, lawyer free internet assessment of someone who got married and posted very limited information about that marriage. A person who by her own admission did it (got married) because she hadn't before. Take that for the free 20 seconds it took me to write this.
I'm just not going to join in the bandwagon of bashing some guy I don't know based on the few posts here. And I'm not bashing you JihnasSpirit, if it appears that way. Just saying if you don't care, didn't care, well hell, give him 5k and get on with not caring.
I agree. Your retainer is more than 5k. Why hassle with the lawsuit? Save a bunch of headaches, perhaps a few heartaches and settle.
Or hire a hit man.
Ya.
A hired gun.
Perhaps one who makes diaramas.
HarmNone
04-12-2005, 07:46 AM
Heh. I think I'd offer him the opportunity to have his belongings returned to him, provided he never showed his face, his lawyers' faces, or ran his mouth in my presence again. If he didn't accept, I'd let the pre-nup do its thing, take back the house, the computer, and anything else he'd gotten his hot little hands on and be done with him.
That's the choice I'd offer him and his power rangers. :shrug:
crazymage
04-12-2005, 08:01 AM
i volunteer to be ex-husband #2.
Apotheosis
04-12-2005, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
Oh no. I wanted to get married. I knew I would get divorced but I really really wanted to get married because I had never been married before. Do everything once is my motto. :D
Isn't that Audrey Hepburns from Breakfast at Tiffany's motto too?
Jinas I don't know you but I do know a ton of divorced people. Each and every one claims that their ex was an asshole who screwed them financially. Statistically speaking I doubt that each of these people was the injured party in the divorce and blameless. In my limited experience everyone tells the story in a way that favours them.
If your post is a 100% accurate without leaving any pertinent information out, it seems that your ex has done well from the divorce and has no reason to complain about the division of property.
I am not a lawyer and I don't know Texas law but in Ontario a judge would toss that pre-nup out for the reasons you mentioned. Property accumulated during the marriage would be split 50/50 and you may be liable for spousal support (it looks like you make more). Luckily for you, you don't live in Ontario.
One question, none of my business but my curiosity has got the best of me, your pre-nup is so one sided, it seems like you knew the marriage was going to fail did you?
Loosing 1/2 my assets is one of the fears that has prevented me from getting married.
4a6c1
04-12-2005, 01:37 PM
Oh secrets! :-X
4a6c1
04-12-2005, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by crazymage
i volunteer to be ex-husband #2.
:lol2:
Sorry, I'm trying to ration myself to one divorce per decade.
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
It was a crazy thing we did, with an unofficial ceremony (and a Zoroastrian monk)... All of this is irrelevant to the prenup though.
As for that - Its a family agreement as I am part of a family business.
Zoroastrian monk.....either of you Persian?
I can understand wanting to protect a family assets.
4a6c1
04-12-2005, 02:08 PM
No, not Persian, but at the time I was studying a non-traditional parsi sect and it seemed like a good idea. :D
crazymage
04-12-2005, 02:33 PM
call immigration on him!!
Sean of the Thread
04-12-2005, 02:41 PM
I feel for you.. when I divorced I left EVERYTHING to her only because of the kids. And it was easier to move =).
P.S. will you be my suger mama.
hahaha. For the small price of the best years of your life and the use of your pelvis, ok Ranger. Deal.
I don't do long term reservations but I will give you the PC discount on a weekend package
ElanthianSiren
04-12-2005, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
I'm annoyed, not injured, and perplexed a bit. He knew he could come to me. I presume the changing of the locks is what led him to believe I was trying to dick him out of his things.
or maybe he just really realized you weren't taking him back and he'd have to get a J-O-B then. For him to know the locks were changed, he would have had to have visited the condo imo.
-Melissa
Ylena
04-12-2005, 05:13 PM
Maybe he didn't understand you didn't want to be married forever when you got married. Color me old-fashioned, but I thought that the whole POINT of getting married was because you wanted to be with someone for the rest of your life...even if a Zoroastrian monk performs the ceremony. Bad karma.
He probably is an asshole, but if all he had 'was the clothes on his back', then yeah, I'd guess he feels seriously threatened that he can't get to his stuff.
The more I read of this thread and the more you explain, the more confused I get.
Brattt8525
04-12-2005, 05:49 PM
The more I read of this thread and the more you explain, the more confused I get. Ylena
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JihnasSpirit is wonderfully confusing at times, its part of her charm!
SpunGirl
04-12-2005, 08:21 PM
Well, if he went INTO the relationship with just one outfit and came out of it with a house, computers, and presumably more clothes, I'd say he did pretty damn well for himself.
What kind of pathetic slob lets one person work their ass off and just sits at home? Unless you're disabled or have some other mitigating condition I don't see how that's acceptable - for men OR women.
-K
Originally posted by Ryenn
<<What kind of pathetic slob lets one person work their ass off and just sits at home?>>
A lot of women I know.
I'm sure they can justify it with "Well I do the laundry."
What did you do today?
You may as well lie , becouse I'm not going to believe you.
Mitigating circumstances would have to apply for me to think it's alright for one half of the partnership to stay home, too. Disabilities or a bunch (three or more) of kids around the same age and under thirteen. It may just be that I dislike small children (I'm much better with pre-teens and teenagers) but handling so many kids for a prolonged period of time seems exhausting. I don't care if the father or mother does it, either, but whoever it is who deals with the munchkins deserves some slack. I mean, it's not like they get to go home after their job.
That's just in a general sense, though, since that doesn't seem to be the case here. I would have gotten fed up with his joblessness long before I married him. I'm not attracted to people who can't pull their own weight.
SpunGirl
04-13-2005, 10:41 AM
I think stay at home moms (and dads!) work as hard as their wage-earning counterparts, but that's a whole other discussion. I meant people who don't do ANYTHING. They don't even work on that novel they swear they'll have published some day.
-K
4a6c1
04-13-2005, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by DCSL
I'm not attracted to people who can't pull their own weight.
I'm a sucker for beautiful men. :(
Fallen
04-13-2005, 11:01 AM
Unless the parent who would be watching the kids makes a pretty good amount of money, their income will likely barely be able to support the daycare needed for the children on their off time. Also, not every parents wants their kids to spend the majority of their time outside of the home.
Any parent that cooks, cleans, does laundry, and takes care of multiple kids certainly has a full time job in my book.
Killer Kitten
04-14-2005, 03:06 PM
Long term marriages go through cycles. Sometimes he is in a career slump, sometimes she is. Generally it all balances out.
In our 24 years together, Mike has changed jobs 4 times, for a total of 5 jobs. His longest period of unemployment was 18 months, and during that time he did free lance consulting work for money and worked on renovating our house.
I've changed jobs 9 times, with one 14 month break when I went back to school full time, taking a part time job during the last 10 months of my schooling. My longest period of unemployment has been these past 5 months, when I've been too hand-impaired to work in my chosen field and waiting for a decision on disability payments. I've kept myself from going completely bugshit from boredom by volunteering at the local animal shelter doing jobs that work around my hand issues.
In any long term relationship there are going to be times when one partner or the other is 'up' or 'down'. That's just life. Mike tends to be the major earner in our household, but we are partners in all aspects of life. His paychecks are bigger, but he'd be living in a cardboard box on the street if I didn't pay the bills, budget our money, arrange for or do home repairs, cook, clean, care for the animals, make trips to Motor Vehicles, file our taxes, etc.
Sometimes he makes dinner or feeds the cats. Just as sometimes the smaller amount of my paychecks makes the difference in our budget.
That's just life and marriage, at least how it works in our home. I know couples who rigidly divide expenses, keep separate bank accounts and track every penny into its proper his or hers column.
Way too much work for me.
Warriorbird
04-14-2005, 04:59 PM
Thanks. That cheered me up a bit.
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