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gsivkitt
03-14-2021, 07:00 PM
The thread about the perma-blessed lance reminded me of this weapon I've got. I'll copy/paste the key details from having my bard sing to it below. Anyone have any idea on value? I've also never seen a weapon that would prevent itself from being used like that.


The first thing that strikes you about the awl-pike is the weight, which is about 6 pounds.

Though you don't yet have a full understanding of the awl-pike's qualities, you get the impression it would be an involved project (233 difficulty) for an adventurer to modify.

It has a bonus of +20 from a normal awl-pike, and the way it vibrates in tune with your voice tells you that it requires skill in polearms to use effectively. It also has some type of special ability, but you can't tell what yet.

The awl-pike hums clearly, indicating that the item will prevent itself from being used unless the acting party meets certain conditions.
You think that you could probably find out something more about the nature of the awl-pike's restriction if you tried.

The harmonics generated tell you that the awl-pike has been infused with the power of a lightning bolt and has been sanctified for use by a Cleric or Paladin in the fight against the undead.
The awl-pike resonates with your voice, indicating that it enhances its owner in the following ways:
It provides a boost of 5 to Polearm Weapons Ranks.
A zorchar-edged silvery eonake awl-pike can only be used by a Master of the Order of Voln.
It provides a boost of 10 to Max Stamina.
It provides a boost of 2 to Stamina Recovery.
The awl-pike looks to have almost innumerable charges remaining.

The awl-pike hums clearly, indicating that the restriction's conditions are as follows:
This item may not be used by the following professions: Warrior Rogue Wizard Cleric Empath Sorcerer Ranger Bard Savant Monk

You sense that the silvery eonake awl-pike will persist after its last enhancive charge has been expended.

gilchristr
03-15-2021, 12:55 AM
So it can only be used by a Voln paladin?

It seems worse than a perfect lance, it seems like it should be pawned. Certainly do not make a project piece out of it, for the love of god!

gsivkitt
03-15-2021, 08:29 AM
Voln paladin or Voln cleric. I'm not planning on making any upgrades to it. My wizard can't handle enchanting anything like that and won't be able to for a long time, and I'm definitely not going to put the silvers into paying someone else to do it.

I was more curious what value it might have where it's so specific who can use it and the restrictions. I've got a little paladin I rolled up just to use it, and it's a great weapon for her at 22.

lexbubba
03-15-2021, 12:01 PM
Very restrictive. I have a weapon that can only used by ranger rogue or warrior and I thought was bad. That said it has enhancives and someone might want it. I might start at mb 1 silver and see where you go. Might get 5m out of it if you find the right buyer

Orthin
03-15-2021, 12:15 PM
Voln paladin or Voln cleric. I'm not planning on making any upgrades to it. My wizard can't handle enchanting anything like that and won't be able to for a long time, and I'm definitely not going to put the silvers into paying someone else to do it.

I was more curious what value it might have where it's so specific who can use it and the restrictions. I've got a little paladin I rolled up just to use it, and it's a great weapon for her at 22.

It’s say it cannot be used by Clerics in your post in the class restriction section. The sanct part I think will always show paladin/cleric. I think that’s default messaging

Methais
03-15-2021, 12:50 PM
Tbh that thing is kind of a piece of shit considering the restrictions that don’t seem to have any kind of payoff.

Orthin
03-15-2021, 02:34 PM
Was this a box found? I mean it’s a pretty cool find.

Methais
03-15-2021, 02:47 PM
Does the Voln Paladin thing result in some extra bonus/feature when being swung by one? Or is is it restricted like that just because? Seems like there should/would be some sort of added bonus that would come with that sort of restriction on it.

bunnymustdie
03-15-2021, 02:54 PM
Does the Voln Paladin thing result in some extra bonus/feature when being swung by one? Or is is it restricted like that just because? Seems like there should/would be some sort of added bonus that would come with that sort of restriction on it.

No bonus, just because. A google search for the item name showed posts from 2007 on these forums with people trying to sell the same item. This is probably just some GM's idea of a strong item from back in 2005 or something.

Methais
03-15-2021, 03:12 PM
No bonus, just because. A google search for the item name showed posts from 2007 on these forums with people trying to sell the same item. This is probably just some GM's idea of a strong item from back in 2005 or something.

I wonder which GM came up with that useless as fuck idea. :lol:

All GM made items should have a GM signature on it, at least on 405 and/or loresong. Similar to an enchanter's mark. So we know who to make fun of when stuff like this pops up.

gsivkitt
03-15-2021, 04:25 PM
No extra bonus on anything for the paladin. I've had it for a long time, it was either a box find or critter drop.

I've got a little paladin using it now (22), and it's been a good weapon for her, but it's not something to get excited about using up to higher levels.

I was mostly curious about it because of all of the restrictions. I've seen things limited from a couple of professions before, but not one restricting everything but one class.

Thanks for the input!

Berost
03-15-2021, 04:38 PM
Should give like, +10 AS/DS to Sym of Courage and Protection. Or longer transcendence or .... anything not lame. :D

lexbubba
03-15-2021, 06:10 PM
and i have never seen something restricting to only one class AND one society for that class.

Tgo01
03-15-2021, 06:45 PM
Wouldn’t it be awesome if this at least allowed for a weird build? Like it gave a bonus of 30 to CS or something which is something paladins don’t tend to hunt with?

But yeah, this just seems overly restrictive for no apparent reason.

lexbubba
03-15-2021, 10:01 PM
Or allowed you to play a savant

gilchristr
03-16-2021, 03:03 AM
Ok, if it didnt require you to be a voln master, it would be cool to get +5 weapon ranks with no level requirement. Cause then you could have like +25 to AS in hill trolls or whatever.

But if you are not going to be a voln master until level 20, its dumb because by that time the +5 weapon ranks only gives you +5 to AS. You might as wait until 25 and get a bonded perfect lance or whatever, it would be way better than this.

+5 weapon ranks might be good for a while for a 1x weapon trainer like an empath or wizard, but no they can't use it cause its paladin only.

A weapon that nobody would use can only get so much for value, from a collector or a packrat or something. If somebody offers you anything decent for this I would take it and be rid of it