Why empaths rule

[Apotheosis]

after using 212

>chan cor
You channel at a krolvin corsair.
You concentrate intently on a krolvin corsair, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward him!
CS: +193 - TD: +99 + CvA: -2 + d100: +89 == +181
Warding failed!
The krolvin corsair shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop his body.
The krolvin corsair is crushed for 65 points of damage!
... 60 points of damage!
Blow to chest frees a rib to spear a lung and heart!
The krolvin corsair is stunned!
... 60 points of damage!
Blow to chest frees a rib to spear a lung and heart!
The krolvin corsair thuds to the deck in a plume of dust.
A krolvin corsair seems less distracted.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

[Hulkein]

Might want to fix the grammar in your avatar.

It's than, not then.

[Hulkein]

PS. Empath's suck.

[Apotheosis]

my bad on the avatar.. remind me not to drink and play on the computer

[Drew2]

Why I rock more:

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[Temple Wyneb, Calvaria]
The fresh air whistling into the room from some hidden source makes you realize just how stifling the atmosphere has been in these tomblike caverns. This might also be how the bats escape at night to hunt. You also see an emaciated hierophant.
prep 1106
Obvious exits: north, southwest
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
cast at hierophant
You gesture at an emaciated hierophant.
You concentrate intently on an emaciated hierophant, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward him!
CS: +332 - TD: +255 + CvA: +20 + d100: +80 == +177
Warding failed!
The emaciated hierophant shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop his body.
The emaciated hierophant is crushed for 65 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Massive blow removes the emaciated hierophant's right foot!
An emaciated hierophant falls to the ground grasping his mangled right leg!
The emaciated hierophant is stunned!
... 60 points of damage!
Blow to back crushes spinal column.
Talk about no backbone!
search hiero
An emaciated hierophant spasms in death and then goes still.
The very powerful look leaves an emaciated hierophant.
The white light leaves an emaciated hierophant.
The deep blue glow leaves an emaciated hierophant.
An emaciated hierophant seems to lose an aura of confidence.
An emaciated hierophant seems to lose some dexterity.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

[Apotheosis]

well, that's a human empath at lvl 39 at the top.. I trained 1x spells, and not much over.
now that i am going to hit 40, i'm changing my training path a bit

[Drew2]

Tayre (at level 66), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 130 35
Physical Fitness...................| 140 40
Arcane Symbols.....................| 155 55
Magic Item Use.....................| 150 50
Spell Aiming.......................| 236 136
Harness Power......................| 199 99
Spirit Mana Control................| 168 68
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 168 68
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 25 5
Survival...........................| 120 30
Perception.........................| 140 40
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 120 30
First Aid..........................| 304 204

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 25

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 40

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 95


Yeah I kinda went overboard on spells.

[Apotheosis]

Armor Use..........................| 30 6
Physical Fitness...................| 102 24
Arcane Symbols.....................| 140 40
Magic Item Use.....................| 140 40
Spell Aiming.......................| 180 80
Harness Power......................| 178 78
Spirit Mana Control................| 140 40
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 90 20
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 140 40
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 58 12
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 35 7
Perception.........................| 90 20
Climbing...........................| 66 14
Swimming...........................| 105 25
First Aid..........................| 220 120
Trading............................| 140 40
Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 24
Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 20
Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 38

thank goodness I have a fixskills coming up.. and doing a bit of migration now, dropping more telepathy ranks and moving them into transformation

[Edited on 4-11-2005 by Yswithe]

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by Tayre
Why I rock more:

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[Temple Wyneb, Calvaria]
The fresh air whistling into the room from some hidden source makes you realize just how stifling the atmosphere has been in these tomblike caverns. This might also be how the bats escape at night to hunt. You also see an emaciated hierophant.
prep 1106
Obvious exits: north, southwest
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
Your spell is ready.
cast at hierophant
You gesture at an emaciated hierophant.
You concentrate intently on an emaciated hierophant, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward him!
CS: +332 - TD: +255 + CvA: +20 + d100: +80 == +177
Warding failed!
The emaciated hierophant shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop his body.
The emaciated hierophant is crushed for 65 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Massive blow removes the emaciated hierophant's right foot!
An emaciated hierophant falls to the ground grasping his mangled right leg!
The emaciated hierophant is stunned!
... 60 points of damage!
Blow to back crushes spinal column.
Talk about no backbone!
search hiero
An emaciated hierophant spasms in death and then goes still.
The very powerful look leaves an emaciated hierophant.
The white light leaves an emaciated hierophant.
The deep blue glow leaves an emaciated hierophant.
An emaciated hierophant seems to lose an aura of confidence.
An emaciated hierophant seems to lose some dexterity.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

You cannot use a hunting example from Wyneb to say you rock more. That has to be the easiest hunting ground um....ever. It's such that I can swing them to death, bolt them, and ward them with 415 and let's face it nothing, to include rats and kobolds, is wardable by the minor elemental circle.

I hunt there because it's retarded easy exp but I wouldn't use it to say PWND by my 1337 hunting skillz.

[Miss X]

Why I rock even more...

>You channel at an Ithzir seer.
You concentrate intently on an Ithzir seer, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward him!
CS: +460 - TD: +411 + CvA: +19 + d100: +87 == +155
Warding failed!
The Ithzir seer shudders with sporadic convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop his body.
The Ithzir seer is crushed for 63 points of damage!
... 40 points of damage!
Blow to leg severs the Achilles tendon along with the rest of the leg!
An Ithzir seer falls to the ground grasping his mangled right leg!
... 35 points of damage!
Massive blow to temple drops the Ithzir seer in its tracks!
The Ithzir seer vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
The opalescent aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
The deep blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
The Ithzir seer no longer bristles with energy.
The dim aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
An Ithzir seer seems to lose an aura of confidence.
The light blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
The powerful look leaves an Ithzir seer.
The wall of force disappears from around an Ithzir seer.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
>loot

[Edited on 11-4-05 by Miss X]

[Asha]

Funny.
My sorcs MnE circle could easily ward riflt (plane 1) at 66.

I used to worry about not having a high enough CS to ward anything at one point, and thought I should have been an empath.
If I was to have a shit CS I could at least heal myself.
Then I was shown, compared to an empath of the same trains, I'd have quite a bit more CS.
Thus making me feel Empaths were shit and I was happy.

(sorry for the terrible grammar, I don't think I could have typed 'CS' more)

[Edited on 4-11-2005 by Drayal]

[FinisWolf]

The 46 empath I just sold had a good CS I think..., and was just starting to double the empath circle (so 4 cs per train instead of the standard 3). I am not aware of a reason why a like level sorcerer's cs would be any better, short of begining to double the sorcerer circle earlier.

Finiswolf

[Asha]

Imagine if empaths were much better hunters than sorcerers.
Since they are almost sorcerers in the first place, therewould be NO reason to roll a sorc.

[rupa]

I noticed you both trained spirit mana control a lot more than I, and I'm wondering what the benefit is beyond say 25 ranks? Can anyone tell me if there is benefit in this above sending and receiving?

Also in arcane symbols... I am still stuck in gs3 mindset where I don't understand what the various benefits are of these skills. I am hoping to get settled on a definite path before the coming fixskills.

Any info would be appreciated. Feel free to IM or U@U me if you have any pearls you'd like to toss my way.

>>Where the hell is my sig?
http://www.ponderland.net/pop/OOC/Toy

[Edited on 4/11/2005 by rupa]

[The Cat In The Hat]

I rock harder!

You concentrate intently on a war griffin, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward it!
CS: +473 - TD: +409 + CvA: +25 + d100: +89 == +178
Warding failed!
The war griffin shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop its body.
The war griffin is crushed for 65 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Nice blow to right leg!
... 40 points of damage!
Good blow to left arm!
The war griffin crashes to the ground, motionless.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

[Asha]

Damn, I hope by the time I get to that train I don't miss the sunshine too much.

[Asha]

You gesture at Atraeu.
A void rips open in the area, directly above Atraeu!
Chunks of lung fly out of Atraeu's mouth and blood shoots from his ears.
____

Oh wait . . I rule!

[AnticorRifling]

What I was saying Drayal is most creatures have a much higher elemental TD as compared to their TD against the other circles. They say it's because of 425 which is all well and good but it doesn't raise it that much.

[Asha]

Also, what's the point in raising elemental CS if they raise elemental TD.
Oh I rememeber . . Sorcerers.

[AnticorRifling]

Also my little empath kicks the major ass. I just wish I had enough time to hunt him, Anticor, and the rogue.

[rupa]

Hahaha! Love your sig, Anticor! I have had that very discussion with the guys I used to work with. They naturally argued the notion ademantly.

[AnticorRifling]

Heh I'm allowed to have it because I do partake in fantasy football. Took 2nd place in my office pool year.

It's taken from a comic, who's name escapes, that was on Bob and Tom.

[Gan]

Empaths do rock!
____________________________

You gesture at an Ithzir seer.
You concentrate intently on an Ithzir seer, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward her!
CS: +474 - TD: +408 + CvA: +19 + d100: +92 == +177
Warding failed!
The Ithzir seer shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop her body.
The Ithzir seer is crushed for 65 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Massive blow to neck snaps it!
The Ithzir seer falls to the ground in a crumpled heap.
The opalescent aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
The deep blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
The Ithzir seer no longer bristles with energy.
The dim aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
The powerful look leaves an Ithzir seer.
An Ithzir seer seems to lose an aura of confidence.
The light blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
The guiding force leaves an Ithzir seer.
The wall of force disappears from around an Ithzir seer.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

[Asha]

Yeah yeah ,
You spend 10 years hunting using your sword and shield.
Then SUDDENLY omg!!! you can use your big new CS spell spells to hunt instead!!!
Wow, how cool.
It's like sorcerers suddenly become pure swingers and then try to own rogues at thier own game.
You fail , my puffy friends.

[Apotheosis]

lets see a capped empath use empathic dispel on someone

;)

[AnticorRifling]

Awww is someone more dark/evil/deathruned/dark/CS based/blood/dark than the sorcerer now?!

Don't you have some no brain 720 hunting to do or something? :cool:

[Asha]

Good grief. Just pointing out a major change to the game which pissed a few folks off that's all.

Oh and yes, I do infact have some no brained 720 hunting to do , becouse I don't know how to hunt any other way.
:sniffle:

720 hunting is awesome. I can fry in less time than it takes me to pulse.

- Arkans

PS: Sorcerers are fucking boring to hunt.

[Asha]

Agreed, on both counts.

Only reason a sorcerer can be good to hunt is if you actually RP you're tormenting a creature to death, or not.

Edited to add : Plus ~ sweep/amb left leg + amb head/left eye ~ is infinately more fun.

[Edited on 4-11-2005 by Drayal]

The day I RP with AI is the day I realize I'm way too fucking bored.

- Arkans

[Asha]

Originally posted by Arkans
The day I RP with AI is the day I realize I'm way too fucking bored.

- Arkans

I got 2 RPAs from that shit.
Still. I only did it becouse I thought it would be fun to roleplay a sorcerer.

I got RPAs for it too. It really is boring as hell, it's pretty much mental masturbation without the scripted climax. Yay.

- Arkans

[Asha]

On that note, I concede.

Empaths rule!

[Czeska]

Originally posted by Drayal
On that note, I concede.

Empaths rule!

Excellent. You may now hunt with my empath , as you previously requested.

[The Cat In The Hat]

Originally posted by Drayal
Damn, I hope by the time I get to that train I don't miss the sunshine too much.

Took 7 years to get to that train, I see plenty of sunshine.

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
and ward them with 415 and let's face it nothing, to include rats and kobolds, is wardable by the minor elemental circle.


thats funny, hunting in the tower, i can ward anything with 400s, and thats uphunting 4-7 trains right now, and i was able to do so right at 67, which was uphunting 8-11 levels. i can ward all of plane 1, and some stuff on plane 2 as well.

but i guess thats just what happens when you are a REAL wizard

[Asha]

Originally posted by The Cat In The Hat

Originally posted by Drayal
Damn, I hope by the time I get to that train I don't miss the sunshine too much.

Took 7 years to get to that train, I see plenty of sunshine.

7 fucking years!!
Jesus.
I take comfort in knowing that if I live another 7 years Shimmerain will be like, CS 1200,000'r

Nice one.

[Asha]

Plus if I could own any character in the game, my choice would be Odysia.
She MUST fucking own.

Edited to add : And I've no clue what that had to do with this thread. But since we're talking professions that rule..

[Edited on 4-11-2005 by Drayal]

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by hectomaner

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
and ward them with 415 and let's face it nothing, to include rats and kobolds, is wardable by the minor elemental circle.




thats funny, hunting in the tower, i can ward anything with 400s, and thats uphunting 4-7 trains right now, and i was able to do so right at 67, which was uphunting 8-11 levels. i can ward all of plane 1, and some stuff on plane 2 as well.

but i guess thats just what happens when you are a REAL wizard

Don't you have something sharp to go fall on or something?

It's doable for me but only because I 1x MnE. If I didn't I know I wouldn't be warding shit.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Drayal
Plus if I could own any character in the game, my choice would be Odysia.
She MUST fucking own.

Edited to add : And I've no clue what that had to do with this thread. But since we're talking professions that rule..

[Edited on 4-11-2005 by Drayal]

Heh, rangers aren't so tough.

[Stunseed]

< Heh, rangers aren't so tough. >

Ahem. What was that you said again? Capped, Stunseed is going to be a beast.

[Asha]

Rangers are the perfect class for a female character.

Stun. . be with me?

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling

Originally posted by hectomaner

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
and ward them with 415 and let's face it nothing, to include rats and kobolds, is wardable by the minor elemental circle.




thats funny, hunting in the tower, i can ward anything with 400s, and thats uphunting 4-7 trains right now, and i was able to do so right at 67, which was uphunting 8-11 levels. i can ward all of plane 1, and some stuff on plane 2 as well.

but i guess thats just what happens when you are a REAL wizard

Don't you have something sharp to go fall on or something?

It's doable for me but only because I 1x MnE. If I didn't I know I wouldn't be warding shit.

i 1x MnE too

and you better pour out that hatorade boi!!

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Stunseed
< Heh, rangers aren't so tough. >

Ahem. What was that you said again? Capped, Stunseed is going to be a beast.

They lack a decent CS based attack to be truly uber. Bards take the cake ultimately.

[Asha]

Bards = Highest AS.
At least in the ole days.

[StrayRogue]

AS doesn't really matter. It depends what you're talking, be it PvP or pure hunting. For PvP, I'd say Rogue or Sorc. For hunting it would be bard: Highest AS, 1 second rt, and an eventual CS that will rival a wizards.

[Stunseed]

< Stun. . be with me? >

While flattering, I think Jolena would whoop your ass. :yes:

Also therein lies the fact I don't swim on that side of the river.

< They lack a decent CS based attack to be truly uber. >

110 is a disabler. Is it uber? No, not really. I believe Rangers are due a CS style attack worth something. Will it happen? Not a chance in hell.

650 better make people cower in fear.

[The Cat In The Hat]

Originally posted by Drayal
Plus if I could own any character in the game, my choice would be Odysia.
She MUST fucking own.

Edited to add : And I've no clue what that had to do with this thread. But since we're talking professions that rule..

[Edited on 4-11-2005 by Drayal]

Sure, if you want to hunt by spikethorning everything.

[Asha]

Originally posted by The Cat In The Hat

Originally posted by Drayal
Plus if I could own any character in the game, my choice would be Odysia.
She MUST fucking own.

Edited to add : And I've no clue what that had to do with this thread. But since we're talking professions that rule..

[Edited on 4-11-2005 by Drayal]

Sure, if you want to hunt by spikethorning everything.

Or ambushing, or hitting from open.

that's 3.
You have what? 2 spells to attack with?
I'd lose hope in life after a lifetime of 2 spells.
No offense, rangers have always been the most impressive and enchanting classes to me.

[Nilandia]

At 43, I can use Bone Shatter, Empathic Assault, Fire Spirit as well as any wand or scroll I come across. Not to mention the disabling spells like Bind, Unbalance and such.

Then again, if your mind's made up, it's made up.

Nilandia

[Edited to add: Not only use them. I can use them well.]

[Edited on 4/11/2005 by Nilandia]

[The Cat In The Hat]

I currently use Empathic Assault, bone shatter and fire spirit. I don't use any disabling spells unless I'm group hunting and then it's for the benifit of whoever I'm hunting with. I have also on occasion used 125 to kill something for fun :) I also use only my own spells for DS unless someone just starts casting on me, which Wizip does on occasion. I never ask for them.

I also have a 20 training empath that hunts with a OHE as well as being well trained in all her spells and lores. She uses Bone shatter (still a bit too young to use the others and be efficent mana wise) as a supliment to the OHE. She also dissarms and picks locks.

Empaths are far from limited in what we can do. If you ask me, they're the most well rounded profession in the game. I can stay in fire mages for hours and not have to leave unless I get loaded down with boxes and can't fit anything else in my containers. You could as well, but that would require tons of herbs that add weight and take up space. Not to mention the encumbrence (spelling?) will get your ass boiled quick.

*Edited to add - I *can* use scrolls and spells (I'm just over 1x in both skills), but I usually choose not to and just leave them where I find them.

[Edited on 4-11-2005 by The Cat In The Hat]

[Asha]

I can stay in fire mages for hours and not have to leave unless I get loaded down with boxes and can't fit anything else in my containers.

Cat.
____

You're 100 trains.
At 100 trains you wanna be claming that kinda victory in Ithzir.

[The Cat In The Hat]

Originally posted by Drayal
I can stay in fire mages for hours and not have to leave unless I get loaded down with boxes and can't fit anything else in my containers.

Cat.
____

You're 100 trains.
At 100 trains you wanna be claming that kinda victory in Ithzir.

Um... I was illustrating a point. Fire mages hit you when they die, EVERY time one dies, Ithzir do not. There is no warding, no chance at getting away from it. There's no comparison between the two.

[Mistomeer]

The only time hunting mages is bearable is when an empath is around.
Otherwise it's pretty much kill, eat herbs, repeat.

I think clerics are more well rounded than empaths (lower physical costs) and bards are probably the most well rounded profession in the game.

[Dajomaa]

My level 38 empath swings at 377. All are self-spells and signs except for 509.

Empaths DO NOT suck.

[ElanthianSiren]

My level 25 Empath regularly uphunts 10 levels. She can also do the swamp in river's rest, though she normally does the carrack. 111 is an amazing spell. It's my favorite hunter, and her lores are trained accordingly.

When she hunts like level, I use 1106 (jungle), but that gets boring. Additionally, there's nothing like being able to heal every member of your group that gets hurt, unstun, and also keep yourself alive and casting with injuries to vital bits. If you're CoL, even better.

I almost wish I'd had an empath from the start of this game as my empath and ranger are my two favorite characters to currently mess around with.

-Melissa