Official: Wheel of Fortune Prizes Revealed

[Skeletor]

...Speechless, just wow.


You twisted my arm!!

Here's the full list:

1. Self-knowledge: Elemental Targeting (425)
2. Self-knowledge: Empathic Focus (1109)
3. Self-knowledge: Mind over Body (1213)
4. Self-knowledge: Song of Tonis (1035)
5. Self-knowledge: Rapid Fire (515)
6. Self-knowledge: Haste (535)
7. 7x Robes, Masterfully (20) Crit-Padded, with Self-knowledge Iron Skin (1202) and Banshee Flares
8. Lich's Ensorcellment (ensorcell any non-magical resistant armament to tier 5)
9. Nature Cloak (from 2016 Auction); 200 lb capacity, 100% weight reduction
[Cloak: Allows the wearer to teleport to pre-saved (up to 20 locations, 10m cooldown) and random (in the same area, 1 minute cooldown) locations that match the terrain and climate of the room they are in (with cooldowns). Can be used cross-realm 2x per day. Has a hood for feature concealment and when closed, has a glamour effect to conceal your entire description.]
10. Kroderine Claidhmore

All of these are new items only and cannot be applied to existing items. There are no plans at this time to offer any of these items in the near future.

Consolation Prize Options:

a) Full Custom Illusion Pin (This requires QC and is bound by typical ALTER restrictions, but this can be used to conceal your full look description if you want. It does not have to be a pin. The base description is included in the customization as is wear/remove messaging.)

b) 150 WPS

Bids of 500k (that are not the top 10 bidders) can choose either of the consolation prizes.

~ Haliste ~
SGM, Events
Auntie H, Forever

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[Taernath]

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[Alashir]

Jesus so much for game balance

[Neveragain]

Remember when you used to find the good items in games because you actually played the game?

This is just lazy and stupid.

[Tgo01]

Jesus so much for game balance

I think game balance is a tiny dot in the rear view mirror at this point.

[gilchristr]

"I think game balance is a tiny dot in the rear view mirror at this point. "

To extend the metaphor, the rear view mirror is also for sale, 1m simucoins & provides SK 1205

[Menos]

Maybe if you have to make a release of practically every class defining spell as SK items and duplicate a previously one of a kind item just to further monetize what started as a small RP focused and GALD event... take a few steps back and reconsider where you are taking the game.

Keeping 1612 bonus for paladins was going to break the fucking game, but no problems giving other classes the ability to cast haste, tonis, or elemental targeting if they are willing to fill enough buckets with cash. Oh, not to mention the return of NPC ensorcell after saying it was a mistake to do it at CCF and wouldn't be done again.

[Archigeek]

The irony of restricting the ensorcel to metals that aren't magic resistant. Good thing the sanctity of veil iron being a second class metal has been protected. Otherwise game balance would have really been FUBAR.

[Skeletor]

It’s just going to get worse and worse. Viduus even mentioned on the officials that eventually SK CMANs will be a thing. I can’t wait to build my berserking Sorcerer.

I’ll be like Roblar but with 719 or Roblar can be like me with SK 719... or why even have professions any more? lol, where does it end?

[audioserf]

It rules that eventually the devs will get their wish and nerf any combination of 506/515/1035 and the owners of these SK items will have their toys grandfathered over to a new 'Arcane Circle' spell which is the current version, and the actual native casters will get fucked over. You love to see it.

[Menos]

It rules that eventually the devs will get their wish and nerf any combination of 506/515/1035 and the owners of these SK items will have their toys grandfathered over to a new 'Arcane Circle' spell which is the current version, and the actual native casters will get fucked over. You love to see it.

You can't keep building ever bigger items to get people to buy for cash if you don't prevent the non-paying-beyond-$45-a-month-subscription people from having the same sort of power. After all, if your marketed product is game power and exp, you have to take those away/not give them to normal players in order to create demand.

[Skeletor]

I think the reason why this is happening to our game specifically is because it’s so niche and small in terms of population.

This leaves it vulnerable to a select few who are willing to dole out huge amounts of cash and skew policy, create imbalance, and generally have their way with the game.

If our population was much much bigger, like WoW big, then the amount of imbalance (and disgust) and subsequent cancelling of subs far outweighs monetarily the few who are willing to spend big.

[Murrandii]

Lately, we're receiving a bit of contradictionnal messages from SIMU.

They're dev like crazy the game, only to nerf here and there and push the boost you had prior to the ascension.
They're dev like crazy the game and pushing more cman love but in the end, most people will probably use the same 1-2-3 cman.

They're reajusting training path for players and will, grosso modo, seek to create 2-3 meta per characters. That's good. Only to find out everyone will probably do the most OP path besides the few exceptions.

The game has more players, more people attending p2w events.

And this.

Tabarnak, sometimes I feel they take 3 steps to move forward and force themselves to take 10 to go backward.

I'm with Nidal. Those items are NOT a guarantee they won't nerf the original

[Skeletor]

I don’t think they’ll grandfather in the items if they nerf the original spells. Unless the SK item is on a GM character’s account, which I suspect was what happened to that SK 1612.

[drumpel]

I'm sure my post on the officials will be pulled and I'll be told I'm flaming folks.....and to think I actually did pretty good without being a complete prick to the staff.

[drauz]

Dev: Haste is a problem

Also Dev: Haste isn't a problem if you pay $$$

[drumpel]

Dev: Haste is a problem

Also Dev: Haste isn't a problem if you pay $$$

I wish that dev would understand that haste itself isn't a problem. Other systems that haste impacts, is the problem.

Take the idea of swinging weapons. How they currently function with RTs isn't based on the profession that uses them. Squares should get a way to reduce RTs on most (if not all) weapons based on their skill ranks. Semis (bards would see less reduction due to having access to 1035) should get some useful RT reduction on a good portion of weapons and pures (all professions but wizards) should see a small reduction to RT on select weapon types (maybe more common ones like a THW bastardsword, longsword, mace, morning star, broadsword, etc).

Wizards get the RT reduction because of haste (technically celerity).

Since squares can easily 2x a weapon skill.....The idea is that Squares are by design, built to use weapons and should get a faster reduction in RTs with lower skill ranks involved.
Since semis can 2x a weapon skill......Semis are adequate weapon users, they should see a good reduction in a weapon RT, but it would take them bit longer to hit that threshold compared to squares.
Since pures can only 1x a weapon skill......Pures should see a RT reduction, but it would come at different thresholds due to only being able to 1x a weapon skill.

As an example, we'll say the THW battle-axe takes 8 seconds to swing:

A well trained warrior should be able to swing a two-handed battle axe in 3 seconds (maybe achieve this by 100 THW ranks).
A semi should be able to swing a two-handed battle axe in 4 seconds (maybe achieve this by 140 THW ranks).
A pure should be able to swing a two-handed battle axe in 5 seconds (maybe achieve this by 75 THW ranks).
A wizard (warmage) should be able to swing a two-handed battle axe in 1 second if he's willing to devote the necessary 150 EL:A ranks that gets him to that threshold. 2x in EL ranks and needing 150+ means a wizard wouldn't hit 1 second swing times until level 75 or so.

The weapon system would need a revamp.....but that would be a lot of work.
It's just easier to adjust (perhaps "nerf" would be a more accurate word) how spells impact things - less man hours and less complications.

[Murrandii]

you guys are thinking too deep on all this. Everyone who isn’t a clueless idiot knows the game is on full milk the playerbase mode the game itself be damned.

Just be smart, sell silvers, use it to fund your lifestyle outside of this game, be happy. Nobody here can change the outcome of how all this plays out short of the whales here.

Just ride it.

You are correct.

But

BUT BUT BUT

Lately, staff is nerfing stuff. They are REMOVING features of the game in term of balance.

Ok

They released ascension and are giving back some nerfed they took. Ok, more grind.

Ok

Now, they release those items and fuck balance, cause money.

Ok.

i.e. They nerfed stam build. They said: you moc is not designed to work every round. Ok

They released 1213 sk item. LOL

But you're still correct: Don't be milked. Milk the game

[time4fun]

Shit show?

We had almost 1000 players in game yesterday, of which only about 10% we're F2P.

And I don't know if you've noticed, but the game has never been stronger in terms of gameplay and depth.

Shit show was the state of the game 10 years ago.

Things are great today.

[Murrandii]

Shit show?

We had almost 1000 players in game yesterday, of which only about 10% we're F2P.

And I don't know if you've noticed, but the game has never been stronger in terms of gameplay and depth.

Shit show was the state of the game 10 years ago.

Things are great today.

One doesn't justify 2.

As a fellow socialist, you can't do corrolation like that. TAbarnak

[Neveragain]

Shit show?

We had almost 1000 players in game yesterday, of which only about 10% we're F2P.

And I don't know if you've noticed, but the game has never been stronger in terms of gameplay and depth.

Shit show was the state of the game 10 years ago.

Things are great today.

https://i.imgur.com/XXeoudE.gif

[bunnymustdie]

An update:


The Ensorcell prize has been updated to include a Troll Heart Pendant. I've updated the original list.

~ Haliste ~
SGM, Events
Auntie H, Forever

[Amerek]

Shit show?

We had almost 1000 players in game yesterday, of which only about 10% we're F2P.

And I don't know if you've noticed, but the game has never been stronger in terms of gameplay and depth.

Shit show was the state of the game 10 years ago.

Things are great today.

Agreeing with this.

[Methais]

I'm sure my post on the officials will be pulled and I'll be told I'm flaming folks.....and to think I actually did pretty good without being a complete prick to the staff.

Reported for not providing a link.

[Taernath]

Shit show?

We had almost 1000 players in game yesterday, of which only about 10% we're F2P.

And I don't know if you've noticed, but the game has never been stronger in terms of gameplay and depth.

Shit show was the state of the game 10 years ago.

Things are great today.

The state of dev is a separate issue from festival cash-grabs.

[drauz]

EG has noticeably gotten worse year after year for the last 3 years.

[Tgo01]

EG has noticeably gotten worse year after year for the last 3 years.

But look at that prize list!

[Methais]

Shit show?

We had almost 1000 players in game yesterday, of which only about 10% we're F2P.

And I don't know if you've noticed, but the game has never been stronger in terms of gameplay and depth.

Shit show was the state of the game 10 years ago.

Things are great today.

As usual, Andraste, you completely miss the point.

Exactly 0 people are surprised at this though.

[Maerit]

Now that seashells are worth more than 300 silvers per, it's actually not a waste of time since you can get some return on your time invested. Not as good as DR, but chasing those T6 wins isn't a complete waste of time. So while I see this as a crazy 180 from a balance perspective, it's also a good 175% boost to the overall value of the alternate currency, which is good for the overall economy of the game.

In the long run, the game economy tends to be more important than the mechanical balance for GS4 since the competition is really more "rivalry" than anything else. I'm not for or against the specifics of this feature, but I am not going to complain about getting more out of my time because of those few players buying up millions of seashells for a considerable mark-up.

[gilchristr]

Interesting point about seashells going up in value due to this.

"it's actually not a waste of time since you can get some return on your time invested"

I think you meant, ignoring all opportunity costs within gemstone, you can get return on your time invested.

Do you think the increased value is enough so that you can get more return on your time doing the EG activities vs. farming for silvers by hunting?

[Maerit]

Interesting point about seashells going up in value due to this.

"it's actually not a waste of time since you can get some return on your time invested"

I think you meant, ignoring all opportunity costs within gemstone, you can get return on your time invested.

Do you think the increased value is enough so that you can get more return on your time doing the EG activities vs. farming for silvers by hunting?

It is increased in value enough to not feel like I am burning a hole in my pocket chasing T6 prizes. I am not confident it would be equal to or greater than my hunting ROI simply because I get more than silvers from hunting my characters (essence/energy and experience). However, if I am hoping to pull a T6 from the hopper (though odds are slim to none of that happening) at least I can replace the silvers I spent + some for my time "wasted" in that pursuit.

[Hymore246]

Those are some of the strongest items I've ever seen in Gemstone IV. I am not exaggerating here. Most of those items are so powerful that they changing how you play the game. Money is more important than game balance apparently.

Given the current price of Seashells, how much real would money do you think those items are going to go for? I wouldn't be surprised if it broke $1000 easily.

[caelric]

I wouldn't be surprised if it broke $1000 easily.

Given that a set of boots sold for what, something like $17k not long ago, $1k is amateur money.

But hey, Andraste says the state of the game is going great....

[Dhuul2]

The game is so easy, who needs these items...by the way, sell me 8x gear

[Merzbow]

Those are some of the strongest items I've ever seen in Gemstone IV. I am not exaggerating here. Most of those items are so powerful that they changing how you play the game. Money is more important than game balance apparently.

Given the current price of Seashells, how much real would money do you think those items are going to go for? I wouldn't be surprised if it broke $1000 easily.

Are you pooping me? SK 425 is +25 free AS for any class that doesn't know it, and since it's self-cast it can't be gotten via MA. $10-15k.

[Maerit]

Those are some of the strongest items I've ever seen in Gemstone IV. I am not exaggerating here. Most of those items are so powerful that they changing how you play the game. Money is more important than game balance apparently.

Given the current price of Seashells, how much real would money do you think those items are going to go for? I wouldn't be surprised if it broke $1000 easily.

Google "most expensive video game purchases" and you'll see that #9 most expensive item was $26,000 for a whole island inside a virtual world. People spend more USD on Gemstone than most of the items mentioned in other graphical video games, and come close to spending that kind of cash on a single item in a text-based game. It's mind boggling.

[Skeletor]

The game is so easy, who needs these items...by the way, sell me 8x gear

People keep saying this crap. You know what I really want to see? and pay silvers for?

I want to see Roblar go through the Rift with nothing but 4x gear on and log an entire 30 minute hunt. I just want to see if this “you can win the game with 4x gear” nonsense is true.

*And by that I mean no frills or enhancives or resistance or any of that, just basic 4x gear, I guess with a basic flare.

[Murrandii]

Problem is that EACH of these spells will probably be shifted for the sk to arcane circle (like 1612).

That means, for instance, 515 will be used for all wiz and people with sk 515 will probably use 1715 (example). If they nerf 515, whales won't be nerf, it's "another" spell.

SIMU is going to shift the game for everyone to grind to get back what's nerfed (with ascension) vs whales that got it instantenously ( with p2w items).

They're shifting to mobile tactics tabarnak.

[Dhuul2]

People keep saying this crap. You know what I really want to see? and pay silvers for?

I want to see Roblar go through the Rift with nothing but 4x gear on and log an entire 30 minute hunt. I just want to see if this “you can win the game with 4x gear” nonsense is true.

*And by that I mean no frills or enhancives or resistance or any of that, just basic 4x gear, I guess with a basic flare.

What prof is Roblar? A warrior? That’s just masochism, but I’m sure it’s possible. I have capped a pure and a semi and hunted the Rift with shit gear. It’s easy. You could do 0x

[Skeletor]

What prof is Roblar? A warrior? That’s just masochism, but I’m sure it’s possible. I have capped a pure and a semi and hunted the Rift with shit gear. It’s easy. You could do 0x

Naw man the Warrior is always the standard we go off of. If they can do it even a Rogue should be able to do it.

[Taernath]

People keep saying this crap. You know what I really want to see? and pay silvers for?

I want to see Roblar go through the Rift with nothing but 4x gear on and log an entire 30 minute hunt. I just want to see if this “you can win the game with 4x gear” nonsense is true.

*And by that I mean no frills or enhancives or resistance or any of that, just basic 4x gear, I guess with a basic flare.

He is also like 10x capped.

Maybe a better read would be from a fresh cap.

[Archigeek]

What prof is Roblar? A warrior? That’s just masochism, but I’m sure it’s possible. I have capped a pure and a semi and hunted the Rift with shit gear. It’s easy. You could do 0x

Squares need better gear to succeed. It's optional for pures. I hunt the Scatter more than any other square except maybe one, probably more than any pure, but I would have a really hard time with straight up 4x gear. A pure would have a much easier time, no question.

That's always been the nature of the game though. Squares use gear to attack = squares need better gear.

[Hymore246]

Are you pooping me? SK 425 is +25 free AS for any class that doesn't know it, and since it's self-cast it can't be gotten via MA. $10-15k.

Heh, shows what I know about the GS4 market. All of this is too rich for my blood.

I think I need to take a break from the game soon before my head explodes from all this P2W nonsense.

[wetsand]

My monk is still pretty low exp(~10m) but has no trouble hunting plane 4 or the Scatter with 4x vanilla gear. Even at fresh cap, plane 4 was a cake walk.

[Tgo01]

People keep saying this crap. You know what I really want to see? and pay silvers for?

I want to see Roblar go through the Rift with nothing but 4x gear on and log an entire 30 minute hunt. I just want to see if this “you can win the game with 4x gear” nonsense is true.

*And by that I mean no frills or enhancives or resistance or any of that, just basic 4x gear, I guess with a basic flare.

All of my guys hunt Rift easily with just 4x gear.

But you probably meant Scatter. I have never tried the Scatter.

[Dhuul2]

All of my guys hunt Rift easily with just 4x gear.

But you probably meant Scatter. I have never tried the Scatter.

Give it a shot— Scatter is not too bad. I would say Sanctum of Scales and it’s swarms are worse.

[Roblar]

I'll be glad to.

I hunted it with 6x gear as fresh cap, without spells (not even the ones I could have on).

It will be slower and more frustrating, but definitely doable.

[audioserf]

Give it a shot— Scatter is not too bad. I would say Sanctum of Scales and it’s swarms are worse.

Before May of this year, Sanctum was the hardest place in the game sheerly due to having invasion gen rate mechanics. They 'fixed' that. SoS is basically Fire Nelemar now.

[Skeletor]

Squares need better gear to succeed. It's optional for pures. I hunt the Scatter more than any other square except maybe one, probably more than any pure, but I would have a really hard time with straight up 4x gear. A pure would have a much easier time, no question.

That's always been the nature of the game though. Squares use gear to attack = squares need better gear.

I never understood how this was remotely fair especially at such a basic level as class choice. Doesn’t it bother you that you need like 100m+ worth of gear to do content in the game and someone like Methais can waltz in there butt nekkid and kick ass?

[Hymore246]

I never understood how this was remotely fair especially at such a basic level as class choice. Doesn’t it bother you that you need like 100m+ worth of gear to do content in the game and someone like Methais can waltz in there butt nekkid and kick ass?

I thought it was an established fact that Pures are better than Squares in Gemstone. It is a clear cut case of the "Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards" problem a lot of RPGs have.

[Ragnar]

I'll be glad to.

I hunted it with 6x gear as fresh cap, without spells (not even the ones I could have on).

It will be slower and more frustrating, but definitely doable.

Hey Roblar I’ve heard of you as one of the best players in the game. I’m not really going to be spending too much in this game apart from the sub and I’m the same profession as you.

It would be really informative to see you do the hard parts of the final levels of the game with basic gear, whatever that may be for someone just going through the levels to cap.

Thanks.

[Maerit]

The true test is to get a F2P character to cap, and have them demonstrate that they can hunt without issue at cap because F2P is capped at 5x gear w/ 5 CER, so the only way they can improve is enhancives beyond what you have with "vanilla" gear. Plus, they don't get society access without paying for a 30-day pass. Societies make a HUGE difference compared to gear. Imagine not having Voln or GoS on your capped character. Even CoL provides a substantial (+35) boost to AS/DS.

It is crazy that people continue to spend insane amounts of USD for minor / incremental improvements or barely noticeable quality of life benefits.

[Archigeek]

I never understood how this was remotely fair especially at such a basic level as class choice. Doesn’t it bother you that you need like 100m+ worth of gear to do content in the game and someone like Methais can waltz in there butt nekkid and kick ass?

It doesn't bother me at all, because I view weapons and armor as integral to square combat. Getting better gear is part of that equation, and part of the fun. Also, why would I want to hamstring myself by only using 100m in gear? That ain't no balla.

https://youtu.be/fPO76Jlnz6c

[Roblar]

Hey Roblar I’ve heard of you as one of the best players in the game. I’m not really going to be spending too much in this game apart from the sub and I’m the same profession as you.

It would be really informative to see you do the hard parts of the final levels of the game with basic gear, whatever that may be for someone just going through the levels to cap.

Thanks.


It would be easier for me to do now because I have 101 spell ranks and can use a shield, and am a master of my society. That gives alot of extra making loss of enchant (and TD in my case because armor & shield are both TD) palatable.

So, fresh cap or early postcap would be more dangerous and just requires higher risk and more tactics. Get 101, 103, 107, maybe 120 (item creation), 401, 406, 414, cman casters into rt or force stance (feint basically), move out of rooms more more than 1 or 2, and stance dance. Target creatures that are easy for you to fry. Make sure not to get overencumbered and heal down wounds you do get (probably minors if in plate with redux if the source was melee) so they don't further lower hurt DS.

[Archigeek]

Screw stripped down. Why you want to watch an artist paint without his best brush? Roblar, maybe we need a folder for live stream videos of how we hunt. Other folks have shared. There should be a thread for live stream hunts.

Roblar is well beyond basic hunting. It's like watching a butterfly take off and flit around... a blood soaked anthropomorphic butterfly with an axe in each hand. He's much more fun to watch at his best than pared down. Honestly, when I hunt with him, what I find most amusing is how differently we go about our hunts.

[Roblar]

Heh, am more down for that then logs.

But not till after merchant week at least.

[Stanley Burrell]

O.K., so I have 0 fucking idea/clue as to what this Wheel of Fortune is (I haven't done EG since they started going the seashell route for a Halloween event/who has the best script + MA the best.) But that T5 ensorcell is something I seriously need (my plate is tricked out as hell, but made out of ruby so it can't be ensorcelled [-500 penalty.]) How much RL $$$ would it equate to? I probably-definitely can't afford it, but I need it.

[bunnymustdie]

O.K., so I have 0 fucking idea/clue as to what this Wheel of Fortune is (I haven't done EG since they started going the seashell route for a Halloween event/who has the best script + MA the best.) But that T5 ensorcell is something I seriously need (my plate is tricked out as hell, but made out of ruby so it can't be ensorcelled [-500 penalty.]) How much RL $$$ would it equate to? I probably-definitely can't afford it, but I need it.

I've seen rough estimates from people stating 5m seashells is probably needed to secure a win. At 500 silver per seashell, and assuming $5/mil for ease of calculations, it's $10k+ USD for a chance to win the T5 ensorcell.

[Archigeek]

O.K., so I have 0 fucking idea/clue as to what this Wheel of Fortune is (I haven't done EG since they started going the seashell route for a Halloween event/who has the best script + MA the best.) But that T5 ensorcell is something I seriously need (my plate is tricked out as hell, but made out of ruby so it can't be ensorcelled [-500 penalty.]) How much RL $$$ would it equate to? I probably-definitely can't afford it, but I need it.

You'd have to buy the seashells. And it would probably take you 1m seashells at 500 silvers a shell, so about 2 grand, give or take, for a reasonable chance at it. This assumes you can find that many seashells. Honestly I haven't kept track of the event, so I'm not sure of the bidding process and timing.

[Methais]

I never understood how this was remotely fair especially at such a basic level as class choice. Doesn’t it bother you that you need like 100m+ worth of gear to do content in the game and someone like Methais can waltz in there butt nekkid and kick ass?

I would at least be wearing shoes.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/SWoRKslHVtqEasqYCJ/giphy.gif

[Methais]

Give it a shot— Scatter is not too bad. I would say Sanctum of Scales and it’s swarms are worse.

Those swarms got nerfed somewhat recently if I'm not mistaken.

[Methais]

Hey Roblar I’ve heard of you as one of the best players in the game. I’m not really going to be spending too much in this game apart from the sub and I’m the same profession as you.

It would be really informative to see you do the hard parts of the final levels of the game with basic gear, whatever that may be for someone just going through the levels to cap.

Thanks.

This looks and sounds and has a join date like macgyver.

https://wallpapercave.com/wp/wp7718208.jpg

[Methais]

I've seen rough estimates from people stating 5m seashells is probably needed to secure a win. At 500 silver per seashell, and assuming $5/mil for ease of calculations, it's $10k+ USD for a chance to win the T5 ensorcell.

What the fuck Simu :lol:

[Alashir]

I've seen rough estimates from people stating 5m seashells is probably needed to secure a win. At 500 silver per seashell, and assuming $5/mil for ease of calculations, it's $10k+ USD for a chance to win the T5 ensorcell.

And me over here in my 4x animalistic gear thinking I'm shit hot

[Stanley Burrell]

Thanks guys + wow.

[Archigeek]

I think 10k is high, considering you're not interested in one of the top 5 items. What you want is the 2nd to last winning ticket. Who knows though? I'm not participating in EG at all these days, as I just don't have the time to really enjoy it.

[Alashir]

After 10 years as a RN I just crossed into the six figure club. The monthly fee for gsiv is quite a bit for me — what do people make who are dropping thousands for in game items?

[bunnymustdie]

After 10 years as a RN I just crossed into the six figure club. The monthly fee for gsiv is quite a bit for me — what do people make who are dropping thousands for in game items?

I don't think every individual who drops crazy money into the game is rich, and conversely certainly not every rich player drops crazy money in the game.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

After 10 years as a RN I just crossed into the six figure club. The monthly fee for gsiv is quite a bit for me — what do people make who are dropping thousands for in game items?

You make 100K+ and the month sub is a lot to you? Do you have lots of other expenses or something?

[Fierna]

You make 100K+ and the month sub is a lot to you? Do you have lots of other expenses or something?

Probably lives in an actual civilized place. Not trashville like you.

[bunnymustdie]

You make 100K+ and the month sub is a lot to you? Do you have lots of other expenses or something?

It's more like, even if you have a lot of blood as a human being, you still would not tolerate having a mosquito sucking some of it. I do ok financially irl and I still don't tolerate overpriced things or unjustified expenses. Paying a double digit amount of dollars per months for a game I play for fun is ok - spending a four or five digit figure amount of money for in game items is not.

[caelric]

Probably lives in an actual civilized place. Not trashville like you.

Which high cost of living civilized place would that be? San Francisco, with literal shit maps of all the shit on the streets?

[Taernath]

You make 100K+ and the month sub is a lot to you? Do you have lots of other expenses or something?

Maybe they mean in terms of value. Value is subjective but $15/month for a single character slot in a 30 year old text game is a big ask, not to mention the other subscription tiers which are kinda wild. I have trouble justifying it myself.

[Skeletor]

Maybe they mean in terms of value. Value is subjective but $15/month for a single character slot in a 30 year old text game is a big ask, not to mention the other subscription tiers which are kinda wild. I have trouble justifying it myself.

I justify it by not buying popcorn and snacks when I go to the movies and then reap the benefits of not getting heart disease and diabetes. It’s a win-win.

[bunnymustdie]

I justify it by not buying popcorn and snacks when I go to the movies and then reap the benefits of not getting heart disease and diabetes. It’s a win-win.

But you're all skins and bones. You need to eat more.

[Alashir]

You make 100K+ and the month sub is a lot to you? Do you have lots of other expenses or something?

I graduated with a little over 100k in debt and most of my career has been spent in rural areas making 40-50k a year with 1k loan payments. Fast forward to today and 10 years of watching healthcare fail from within and I'm now pursuing my MPH with a focus in epidemiology (started before Covid) to try and make a broad positive impact on healthy choices in those rural areas. TLDR: More school loans + 10 years of paying loans without accruing resources = me

Also what Taernath said; $40/month if you're premium for a text game is pretty nutty. I'm happy to pay the sub and even event fees (we do have live events with GM's after all), but thousands for fun items seems excessive even if I could afford it.

[Hymore246]

Could be a few reasons:

1. Sunk cost fallacy and they digging themselves deeper.
2. Planning on flipping the item for even more $$$.
3. Addiction.

I know people are free to spend their money however they want but I can't justify spending hundreds each month and thousands at each premium event. It's just crazy to spend that much on a 30 year old text video game in my opinion. I really don't like that Simu is encouraging this sort of behavior.