Fun at the cul-de-sac

[Scott]

Before this Karri pointed this person out, she cried and Karri was just playing around and and by accidently killed him. Anyway, I hadn't done anything before this other then make one comment about someone being ugly. This was in the cul-de-sac so......

A quick flick of Karri's wrist sends a crimson feathered invar dart into flight!
Karri throws a crimson feathered invar dart at Valania!
AS: +35 vs DS: +42 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +97 = +125
... and hits for 8 points of damage!
Minor puncture to the left leg.

** Karri's feathered invar dart flares with a burst of flame! **
... 20 points of damage!
Nasty burns to left leg. Gonna need lots of butter.

* Valania drops dead at your feet!

Suddenly there is an uproar, with people screaming, "Murderer! Quickly, someone call for the constable!"
Suddenly the town constable, supported by a sizeable posse, comes riding up!
The constable says, "So dere ya are Karri! We've a warrant for yar arrest. Now come 'long quietly or we'll hang ya right where ya stand."
With that, the deputies wrestle Karri to the ground, chain her and lift her onto a horse.
Without any hesitation the posse rides off with their prisoner.
The feathered invar dart flips over, landing behind Valania.
>
You feel your extra strength departing.
* Valania is off to a rough start! She just bit the dust!
The field mouse darts all around, generally being a great nuisance.
>
You hear someone chuckling.
>chuck
>
You chuckle.
Camri blinks.
>
You hear the ghostly voice of Valania say, "Thank you."
>
You hear the voice of Staerin say, "That's unexpected"

Valania's body decays into compost.

<A bunch of crap edited>
>
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully say, "talk about out of control"
>
Staerin snickers.
>
Carpone slings a reinforced shield over his shoulder.
>
Draupnir mutters adart.
>
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully ask, "why do dwarves always act so ignorantly?"
>
Draupnir just went north.
>flag !fame
Ok.
Staerin asks, "Their beards are itchy?"

>'Same reason you ask stupid questions like that thoughtfully
You say, "Same reason you ask stupid questions like that thoughtfully"
>shrug
You shrug.
>
Staerin starts chuckling at you!
>
Galann suddenly fades into view.
Galann gestures at you.
CS: +150 - TD: +236 + CvA: +14 + d100: +73 - -5 == +6
Warded off!
You are unaffected.
>
>prep 505
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Hand of Tonis...
Your spell is ready.
>cast at gal
Staerin utters a light chant and raises his hands, beckoning the lesser spirits to his aid...
>
You gesture at Galann.
CS: +316 - TD: +117 + CvA: +14 + d100: +4 - -5 == +222
Warding failed!
A wispy hand of air reaches toward Galann and grasps him tightly. The hand squeezes hard, snatching the breath from his lungs.
Galann is stunned.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>
Staerin snaps his fingers.
'That went well
>You say, "That went well"
>put fal in cloak
>
You put a sinister black vultite falchion in your black cloak.
>
Staerin says, "I wanted to do it"
>
Staerin wails!
>
Staerin falls over.
get than wand
>You remove a pale thanot wand from in your black cloak.
>wave wand at gala
You wave your thanot wand at Galann.
1d100: 37 + Modifiers: 185 == 222

CS: +259 - TD: +102 + CvA: +14 + d100: +80 - -5 == +256
Warding failed!
His left leg explodes!
Galann screams and falls to the ground grasping his mangled left leg!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>wave wand at gala
Staerin winces.
>
The field mouse takes a moment to nibble at something.
You wave your thanot wand at Galann.
1d100: 12 + Modifiers: 185 == 197

CS: +259 - TD: +102 + CvA: +14 + d100: +75 - -5 == +251
Warding failed!
His right leg explodes!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
Staerin exclaims, "Ouch!"
>put wand in cloak
You put a pale thanot wand in your black cloak.
>get fal
>
You remove a sinister black vultite falchion from in your black cloak.
>'nice work
You say, "nice work"
>
Staerin says, "That's gotta hurt"
>
Dryarth just arrived.
>nod to gala
You nod to Galann.
>stance def
You are now in a defensive stance.
>'That didn't go so well
You say, "That didn't go so well"

Camri grins at you.
Staerin says, "poor poor sylvankind legs..."
>'I expect that stupidity from a sylph though
You say, "I expect that stupidity from a sylph though"
>
A severed sylvankind leg oozes blood onto the ground.
shrug
>You shrug.

Galann starts to breathe easier.
>
The severed sylvankind leg finally stops twitching and decays away.
>rub gal
You rub Galann.
>'nice work
The severed sylvankind leg finally stops twitching and decays away.
>
You say, "nice work"
>
Camri asks, "Done?"
>
Staerin says, "Yeah, but half-sylvan are just genius level intelligence"
>
Camri peers quizzically at Galann.
>
Staerin nods to you.
>
Staerin hums distractedly to himself.
>grin
You grin.
>
You feel at full magical power again.
>
Drakam just arrived.
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Drakam leans on Camri, giving her a companionable grin.
>
Staerin turns to Drakam and cheers!
>
Staerin points at Galann.
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Camri leans on Drakam, giving him a companionable grin.
>
Drakam grins.
>
Barnot came through a narrow opening.
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Staerin points at Drakam.
>
Barnot just went north.
>
Staerin points at Galann.
>
Staerin lets out a cheer!
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Galann shakes his head.
>
Galann sits up.
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Staerin exclaims, "YAY!!!!"
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Drakam raises an eyebrow in Staerin's direction.
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Galann thoughtfully says, "now that was just stupid"
>
Camri chuckles.
>
Galann traces a series of glowing runes while chanting an arcane phrase...
>
Galann gestures.
Galann suddenly disappears.
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Staerin exclaims, "Legless sylvans!"
>
Drakam chuckles.
>
Staerin hums distractedly to himself.
>
Camri says, "He's losing it"
>
Camri nods to Drakam.
>
Caiyus just arrived.
stance def
>Drakam chuckles.
>
You are now in a defensive stance.
>l
Staerin says, "Short like a halfling, but in sylvan fashion"
>
[Wehnimer's, Cul-de-Sac]
Broken bottles, discarded rubbish, and uneasy feelings pervade this dank, ill-lit dead end. Several unsavory-looking citizens seem to be lurking here and there in the shadows for want of anything better to do, and the scratching of rats can be heard from within the nearby walls. A pile of old crates is stacked against the back wall of the alley. You also see the Jenevieve disk, the icy blue Galann disk, a field mouse that is sitting and an empty wooden crate.
Also here: Caiyus, Drakam, Jenevieve, Staerin who is lying down, Camri, Delion who is sitting
Obvious paths: north
>
>'You missed the fun!
You exclaim, "You missed the fun!"
>
Staerin exclaims, "Course!"
>nod to karri
You nod to Karri.
Karri darkly asks, "Who has my dart?"
Staerin winks at Camri.
Karri grunts, a quizzical look on her face.

Camri says, "Ummm"

>'Some younging took it I think
Mekthros just arrived.
You say, "Some younging took it I think"
>prep 913
You trace a series of glowing runes while chanting the phrase for Melgorehn's Aura...
Your spell is ready.
>cast
You gesture.
A luminescent aura begins to swirl around you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Mekthros just went north.
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Camri says, "The guy looking for the runner"
>
Karri grunts in annoyance, rolling her eyes.
>stance def
You are now in a defensive stance.
>
Karri darkly says, "I will decapitate him"
>
Camri says, "Draupnir"
>chuck
You chuckle.
>
Camri nods to Karri.
>
Kallik just arrived.
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Staerin asks, "What kind of a... me... would I be if I wasn't insane?"
>
Kallik went through a narrow opening.
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Staerin pokes Camri in the ribs.
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Staerin whistles tunelessly to himself.
>
Camri grins at Staerin.
>
* Armosh just bit the dust!
>
Staerin stands up.
>
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully say, "man, i wish i was cool enough to hang around the catacombs and kill youngins"
>
Drakam says, "you are insane, everyone knows it"
>
Drakam nods to Staerin.
>
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully exclaim, "you the man sintik!"
>
Staerin gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Staerin gestures.
Galann is discovered by Staerin!
>
Camri says, "Sintik didn't kill anyone"
>
Staerin leans on Galann.
>
Galann traces a series of glowing runes while chanting an arcane phrase...
>
Galann gestures.
Galann suddenly disappears.
>
Staerin says, "Hi"
>
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully say, "hi staerin"
Staerin exclaims, "Yeah, not a single youngin has died to Sintik today even!"
>'I know, I pick on all the younging's
You say, "I know, I pick on all the younging's"
>roll eyes
You roll your eyes.
>
Camri grins at you.
>'Why were you here casting at me?
You ask, "Why were you here casting at me?"
>'Because you thought I was a youngin?
>
You ask, "Because you thought I was a youngin?"
>
Staerin mutters that_i_know_of.
>
Staerin hums distractedly to himself.
>
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully ask, "why are you sitting here screwing with people?"
>'What the hell are you talking about?
You ask, "What the hell are you talking about?"
>
Camri says, "He wasn't"
>'I was sitting here talking with people
You say, "I was sitting here talking with people"
>l
Drakam says, "cause he's bored"

Staerin says, "He hadn't done anything that I remember..."

You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully say, "and for blowing my legs up"
>
Karri darkly says, "Sintik will die a bloody, painful death by my hands"
>
Karri grunts and nods.
>'Maybe you shouldn't cast at me
>
You say, "Maybe you shouldn't cast at me"
>
Camri exclaims, "You cast at him!"
>'then we wouldn't have a problem
You say, "then we wouldn't have a problem"
>
* Herugrimm just bit the dust!
>
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully say, "shutup dwarf"
>
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully say, "i did no harm to you"
>'Are you retarded?
You ask, "Are you retarded?"
Camri says, "Not because you didn't try"
>
Staerin gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully say, "was merely checking your status"
>
Staerin gestures.
Galann is discovered by Staerin!

Galann gestures.
Galann suddenly disappears.
>
Staerin snickers.
>
Drakam grins.
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully say, "if i wanted to hurt you i would have"
Camri says, "Karri"
>
Camri says, "Next"
>
Drakam chuckles.
>
Drakam says, "um ok"
>
Staerin says, "I costs less to take off your legs, shorty"
>
Staerin hums distractedly to himself.
>
Guildanstern came through a narrow opening.
>
Guildanstern just went north.

Drakam says, "and doesn't involve a fine either"
Staerin gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Staerin gestures.
Galann is discovered by Staerin!
>
Drakam grins.
>
Galann traces a series of glowing runes while chanting an arcane phrase...
>
Galann gestures.
Galann suddenly disappears.
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Staerin snickers.
>
Camri gazes in wonder at her surroundings.
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Staerin hums distractedly to himself.
>
Staerin gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
>
Staerin gestures.
Nothing seems to happen.
>look at gal
I could not find what you were referring to.
>chuck
You chuckle.
>
Drakam says, "you do realize he has more mana then you and it costs more to cast inviso then to do dispell invios"
>
Staerin snickers.
>find gal
Brave Adventurer Questing:

Galann

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Staerin exclaims, "He left!"
>yell Run boy!
>
You belt out, "Run boy!"
Staerin exclaims, "How rude!"
Drakam grins at Staerin.
>
Staerin hums distractedly to himself.
>
Staerin snickers.
Karri grunts, amused.
Drakam gestures.
Nothing seems to happen.
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Drakam says, "yep"
>
Karri growls something vile beneath her breath.

You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully say, "i'm not worried about my mana fools"
You chuckle.
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Karri licks a silver-edged black rolaren backsword.
>
Inyk just arrived.
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Camri says, "I think he was somehow related to the other"
>
Staerin says, "That legless sylvan sure can move"
You hear the voice of Galann thoughtfully say, "and i don't need legs to kill you"
>
Staerin is no longer moving so silently.

[Edited on 9-18-2003 by Gemstone101]

[Back]

So, is this in complaints for the reason I think it is?

[Scott]

Originally posted by Backlash
So, is this in complaints for the reason I think it is?

Where should it go?

[Praefection]

I have to thank you all for killing my new character. So here it is. Thanks! Yes, I am the soul behind Valania and it's really sad you guys resort to that kind of shit. She is level one and no threat except having an IC attitude. I'll post my own log of what happened. Edited to remove all the needless crap. Have fun reading.

*It's rather long*

You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
You say, "Sleeping here. Let me rest."
[Wehnimer's, Cul-de-Sac]
Broken bottles, discarded rubbish, and uneasy feelings pervade this dank, ill-lit dead end. Several unsavory-looking citizens seem to be lurking here and there in the shadows for want of anything better to do, and the scratching of rats can be heard from within the nearby walls. A pile of old crates is stacked against the back wall of the alley. You also see an empty wooden crate.
Also here: Willowynn who is sitting, Sintik, Camri, Delion who is sitting
Obvious paths: north
Camri stares off into space.
You hear a loud, "Thbtbtbtbt!"
A field mouse scampers into the area.
Camri asks, "Did we look like we were going to point?"
Staerin gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
Staerin gestures.
Fog swirls and eddies about the room.
Staerin points at Camri.
Staerin points at Camri.
Staerin points at Camri.
Staerin points at Camri.
Camri gazes in wonder at her surroundings.
Staerin points at Camri.
Staerin points at Camri.
Staerin points at Camri.
Staerin points at Camri.
Camri points at Staerin.
Staerin says, "I point lots"
Camri points at Staerin.
Staerin hums distractedly to himself.
Camri points at Staerin.
Camri points at Staerin.
Camri points at Staerin.
Camri points at Staerin.
Camri points at Staerin.
Camri points at Staerin.
Camri points at Staerin.
Camri points at Staerin.
Camri grins.
Staerin glares at Camri.
Staerin utters a light chant and raises his hands, beckoning the lesser spirits to his aid...
Staerin gestures at Camri.
Strands of webbing shoot forth towards Camri.
CS: +226 - TD: +103 + CvA: +12 + d100: +50 == +185
Warding failed!
Camri is firmly webbed in place.
Staerin points at Camri.
Staerin points at Camri.
Staerin points at Camri.
Staerin points at Camri.
Staerin sticks his tongue out at Camri, and lets out with a loud, "Thbtbtbtbt" from his lips!
Camri exclaims, "Sintik!"
Sintik intones a phrase of elemental power while raising his hands...
Sintik traces a simple rune while intoning a short, mystical phrase...
Sintik gestures at Camri.
The webs dissolve from around Camri.
You hear a loud, "Thbtbtbtbt!"
You hear someone humming softly to himself in the shadows.
Sintik chuckles.
You hear someone mutter jerk.
You hear someone humming softly to himself in the shadows.
Sintik makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
You hear the voice of Staerin exclaim, "Now you're spoiling all my OTHER fun!"
Sintik gestures.
Sintik appears to be keenly aware of his surroundings.
Camri stares off into space.
Sintik recites a series of mystical phrases while raising his hands...
Sintik gestures.
Sintik begins moving faster than you thought possible.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Camri grins.
Sintik points at Staerin.
You say, "I could care less if you did. I am stating that I wish to be left alone and hoping you have enough manners to abide by it."
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Camri asks, "Are we bothering you?"
Sintik searches around for a moment..
Staerin leans on Camri, giving her a companionable grin.
Sintik intones a phrase of elemental power while raising his hands...
You hear someone snicker.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
You hear the voice of Staerin exclaim, "Mwahaha!
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Camri grins.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik searches around for a moment.
Sintik traces a series of glowing runes while chanting an arcane phrase...
Sintik gestures.
Sintik suddenly disappears.
You say, "Let me rephrase it. Listen closely."
You hear someone reciting a series of mystical phrases...
Nothing happens.
You hear someone calling upon the powers of the elements...
You hear someone cackle.
You say, "I am napping here. So I wish to be left alone. Simple."
You hear someone reciting a series of mystical phrases...
The field mouse sits down.
You hear someone mutter something about viagra.
Sintik fades into visibility.
Sintik points at Staerin, ruining his hiding place.
Level: 1 Experience: 17538
Next level at: 20000 exp. Exp. until next lvl: 2462
Fame: 1695 Mana: 2/2 Max
Deeds: 1 Deaths this level: 0

Your mind is numbed.
Sintik intones a phrase of elemental power while raising his hands...
Staerin wails!
Staerin just went north.
Sintik just went north.
Sintik just arrived.
Camri says, "Let me rephrase it, listen closely. We have no reason to bother you. Go to sleep"
Sintik roars!
Camri stares off into space.
Sintik yells, "And stay stunned!"
Sintik returns to normal speed.
Karri comes out of hiding.
Karri searches around for a moment.
Camri begins chuckling at Sintik!
You hear Staerin yell, "Never!"
You say, "Which was my intent until your tongue made comments."
Camri says, "Oh, please hush"
You hear someone humming softly to himself in the shadows.
Camri says, "Come out Carrot"
The mouse seems to relax somewhat.
You hear the voice of Staerin ask, "Carrot who?"
You hear someone humming softly to himself in the shadows.
Karri searches around for a moment.
Camri says, "Carrot you"
The mouse takes a look around.
There is a twinkle in a field mouse's eyes for a moment.
Sintik makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
Sintik gestures.
Sintik stands taller, as if bolstered with a sense of confidence.
Sintik makes a quick gesture while calling upon the powers of the elements...
Sintik gestures at a field mouse.
Karri darkly says, "You are in the way, trying to find the old ranger"
Karri points at you, ruining your hiding place.
Karri searches around for a moment
You hear the voice of Staerin say, "I'm not old"
You stare at Karri.
You hear the voice of Staerin vividly accusing the gods of shoddy workmanship when it came time to create Karri.
You say, "You are disgusting."
Karri searches around for a moment.
The mouse peers intently at you.
There is a twinkle in a field mouse's eyes for a moment.
Sintik loses some awareness.
Karri stares at you.
Sintik says, "Ye be ugly"
Sintik nods to you.
The field mouse sits down.
Camri says, "Karri isn't disgusting"
You say, "And when I care what you think. I still will not let you know.."
You wave a hand at Sintik, dismissing him indifferently.
Camri gazes in wonder at her surroundings.
Sintik chuckles.
Karri darkly asks, "One of such unpure blood as yours calls me digusting?"
You hear the voice of Staerin ask, "She cares what you think... you hear that?"
You hear someone snicker.
Karri grunts, amused.
Camri grins.
Draupnir just arrived.
You say, "My blood might be tainted but you are an abdomination."
Draupnir grins.
Camri blinks.
Draupnir asks, "anyone seen the runner?"
You say, "Go crawl back into your holes."
Draupnir works his fingers under his tail cap and scratches his head.
Camri asks, "YOu're an abdomination?"
Draupnir peers quizzically at you.
You hear the voice of Staerin say, "I saw the old warrior"
Sintik asks, "what the hell is a abdomination?"
Camri peers quizzically at Karri.
Karri removes a crimson feathered invar dart from in her climbing pack.
An unfortunate divagation brings a fly into perilous contact with Camri's spidersilk cloak. With a sudden flurry of activity, a black spider emerges from the folds of the cloak and binds the fly in a mucilaginous shroud of silk.
You hear the voice of Staerin say, "But no runner"
Sintik says, "nae"
Sintik nods to Draupnir.
Camri says, "That was what I was going to ask"
A quick flick of Karri's wrist sends a crimson feathered invar dart into flight!
Karri throws a crimson feathered invar dart at you!
AS: +35 vs DS: +42 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +97 = +125
... and hits for 8 points of damage!
Minor puncture to the left leg.

** Karri's feathered invar dart flares with a burst of flame! **
... 20 points of damage!
Nasty burns to left leg. Gonna need lots of butter.
The buzz of thoughts in your mind subsides.

It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

...departing in 10 mins...
Suddenly there is an uproar, with people screaming, "Murderer! Quickly, someone call for the constable!"
Suddenly the town constable, supported by a sizeable posse, comes riding up!
The constable says, "So dere ya are Karri! We've a warrant for yar arrest. Now come 'long quietly or we'll hang ya right where ya stand."
With that, the deputies wrestle Karri to the ground, chain her and lift her onto a horse.
Without any hesitation the posse rides off with their prisoner.
The feathered invar dart flips over, landing behind you.
Sintik seems a bit less imposing.
* Valania is off to a rough start! She just bit the dust!
The field mouse darts all around, generally being a great nuisance.
You hear someone chuckling.
Sintik chuckles.
Camri blinks.
The field mouse pauses to clean its fur.
You say, "Thank you."
You hear the voice of Staerin say, "That's unexpected"
Suddenly you have the strangest feeling that you are being watched.
The feeling fades as quickly as it came.
The field mouse takes a moment to nibble at something.
You see an elegant turquoise robe embroidered with the image of dueling dragons surrounded by white runes open.
Camri says, "Ok, she might be whatever you called her... but you're dead"
depart confirm
Slowly the world begins to dissolve into a grainy montage of color..
[Purgatory]
You find yourself wandering amidst endless streaming light, and vast nothingness. This place feels torn between two prophecies, each vying for your loyalty.
Also in the room: All the spirits of those who could not choose.
Obvious exits: light and darkness.
Time seems to have no meaning as you wander aimlessly amidst the uncomfortable tugging for your attention. Hopelessness washes over dreams you once held like the creeping tide of doom.
You are not sure when it started, but you suddenly realize that an old man has entered into a conversation with you. He speaks of things left undone, of special children who were chosen to make a difference. You cannot quite grasp what he is talking about, but he seems to be referring to you. Although he seems to find it excruciatingly difficult, the man grants you back your mortal life.
"Heed this!" he says, "Thy future relies upon thy deeds, for even I am powerless beyond a point!"
Suddenly you feel an intense pain scorching your very soul! The world of your past suddenly comes rushing back into your memory. You are quite bewildered by what has transpired, but alive...
Obvious paths: south, east, west.
rub am
You rub a crystal amulet.
You feel your mind open up to the world around you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
pull am
As you cover your crystal amulet with your hand and pull, just for a moment the sky and everything around you turns black.
[Town Square, East]
Here in the center of a broad plaza near the commercial area of the bazaar stands the impressive facade of the slate-roofed Moot Hall, where the citizens of Wehnimer's Landing hold various official, religious and social functions. Facing the square are some of the town's more prosperous shops, still doing business with the many customers who still frequent the streets at night. You also see a large wooden barrel.
Also here: Karri
Obvious paths: north, south, east, west
You see Karri Shi'ne.
She appears to be a Dwarf of the Khanshael.
She appears to have come of age and short. She has beady pale grey eyes and dark skin. She has long, white hair worn in a bun. She has an oval face, an upturned nose and a long braided beard.
She is in good shape.
She is wearing nothing special.
You hear the voice of Nekkratania calmly ask, "Who goes there?"
Karri laughs at you!
Karri just went west.

[Snapp]

He seemed to be trying to defend Valania..but he was attacking the wrong person.. the dolt.

[Scott]

I didn't kill your character. I had nothing to do with that. Karri isn't even a friend of mine, just someone I know. KARRI killed you, I had nothing to do with it. I made one comment after you called someone disgusting. Sintik is mean, he makes comments like that after you call someone disgusting. You brought yourself into the name calling thing, I responded. I had nothing to do with your death. I didn't stun, threaten, or anything.......

[Snapp]

I really don't see the problem here? You were a bitch, you got killed for it..???

[SpunGirl]

I didn't think you could even attack players under level two.

If you RP a bitch, be prepared for what comes your way.

-K

[Scott]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
I didn't think you could even attack players under level two.

If you RP a bitch, be prepared for what comes your way.

-K

You can if you are in defensive stance. That's another reason why Karri didn't mean to kill this person. She was in defensive stance using the weakest weapon, A DART, and a flare went off.....

[Solkern]

Lets see...Cul-de-sac...hmm can you expect anything else, theres ALWAYS DRAMA in the cul-de-sac, when i hanged out there 7-8 years ago, it was the SAME shit, just diffrent people, whats with the cul-de-sac and attacting drama like theres no tomorrow, theres probally been more killings at cul-de-sac then at the boulder AND dinghy COMBINED!

[Edited on 9-18-2003 by Solkern]

[Betheny]

You know. For someone that's telling ME I can't RP because I have a conflict with someone that calls for a warn interaction... you do a lot of scrolling and jackass-like moves.

[Scott]

Originally posted by Maimara
Is this where I give you shit about casting at people, or something?

I'm sorry I have to spell out the meaning behind this for some people. It's the same old thing, some guy comes into the cul-de-sac thinking he's dealing with a bunch of 1-10 train people and wants to start trouble. What he finds out a lot of people are a lot older then him. It's amazing how many times people come into the cul-de-sac thinking they are going to push everyone around and they end up walking out with their tail between their legs.

So for the slow people:

1.People shouldn't get in other's buisness.
2. People shouldn't come to the cul-de-sac thinking they are going to push people around, because people who hang out there range from 1, to 160 (no exaggeration).

[Solkern]

I use to hang out there, all the time, trust me I understand it all

[Scott]

Originally posted by Maimara
You know. For someone that's telling ME I can't RP because I have a conflict with someone that calls for a warn interaction... you do a lot of scrolling and jackass-like moves.

The difference betwee you and me is, I don't claim to be a great RPer unlike you who says "I won't play with anyone who can't roleplay!" Hell I could care less about RPing anymore. However I really don't see anything I did that was wrong. I was searching someone out, yes, that did cause a screen scroll. That is why I went invisible afterwards. Everything else is typical Sintik behavior. I'm mean, rude, and like to cause trouble wherever I go. It's how I play and have always played. Ask Solkern, I've been in the cul-de-sac for many years, and I haven't changed at all.

[Solkern]

Nope nope, he hasn't, Sintik and I have fucked with alot of people, thats just how we RP our characters, honestly, I think Sintik is a good roleplayer.
Out of all the years i've been around him, I don't think I remember once when he was out of character.
besides whispering.

[Edited on 9-18-2003 by Solkern]

[Praefection]

That is too sad. I was under the impression that ALL kinds of personalities were expected within Gemstone. Yes, Valania is a bitch but that is how I plan on RPing her. I don't expect everyone to love her nor should I expect anyone who wants to attack her for speaking rudely. What was I thinking! Silly me. I do not wish to become involved in such activities in general when I rest. I think the actions of the dart thrower were childish. You just have to LOOK at my character to see she's little, and how do you expect them to defend against that? Seriously, I don't mind RP but I really hate "jokes" that are meant to show someone their place as I would assume was the intent. And even hinting that Galann is an older *brother* is an insult both me and him. So continue to discuss or flame/bash. On a side note, Sintik stated that he is quote "Sintik is mean" yet I don't see people jumping up his ass for being a jerk. Don't start with the double standards, thanks. Is there really a difference between a well known ass and a new one?

[Solkern]

i've killed countless people on accident. From the look of the log, it looked like an accident to me.
I dont think many people are trained in throwing items, So if you THINK about it, it was an accident. She threw a dart, it flared (you can't control flares) and it killed you.
Deal with it, and move on.

[Betheny]

Originally posted by Gemstone101

Originally posted by Maimara
You know. For someone that's telling ME I can't RP because I have a conflict with someone that calls for a warn interaction... you do a lot of scrolling and jackass-like moves.

The difference betwee you and me is, I don't claim to be a great RPer unlike you who says "I won't play with anyone who can't roleplay!" Hell I could care less about RPing anymore. However I really don't see anything I did that was wrong. I was searching someone out, yes, that did cause a screen scroll. That is why I went invisible afterwards. Everything else is typical Sintik behavior. I'm mean, rude, and like to cause trouble wherever I go. It's how I play and have always played. Ask Solkern, I've been in the cul-de-sac for many years, and I haven't changed at all.

Show me where I said that, for one.

And for another, for someone that doesn't know me at all, you seem to know me pretty goddamn well.

What goes around, comes around.

[SpunGirl]

A few things. How can Solkern say someone is an awesome roleplayer when they've just stated in a previous post that they don't give a shit about roleplaying? That's silly.

On the other hand, if the people who attacked you were roleplaying, then you have to accept THEIR RP. Maybe they attack rude bitches, that's their RP bit. That's a million times different than Izbin attacking Maimara because of something that was said on the boards.

You said that you don't expect everyone to love her, but maybe their characters automatically attack people they don't love... shrugs... you have to at least consider the possibility.

Just like you want them to consider that you "plan" on RPing a bitch.

-K

[Solkern]

That's quite funny, people you don't really know, know you better then you think, it's happened first hand for me, and to me.

[Scott]

<<That is too sad. I was under the impression that ALL kinds of personalities were expected within Gemstone. Yes, Valania is a bitch but that is how I plan on RPing her.>>

Good, I like people who play like that. You just deal with what happens. You want to be a slut, you get treated like one. You want to be an ass, you get treated like one. Candor for example, complete asshole, gets killed constantly and he doesn't freak out. He's great.

<<I don't expect everyone to love her nor should I expect anyone who wants to attack her for speaking rudely. What was I thinking!>>

<<<I do not wish to become involved in such activities in general when I rest. I think the actions of the dart thrower were childish. You just have to LOOK at my character to see she's little, and how do you expect them to defend against that?

Your mistaken. However you weren't meant to die. You are 1 train right? That requires the "dart thrower" to be in defensive stance. I'm sure you weren't meant to die, I know you aren't worth the fine to me......>>>

Then don't rest in public places! Go rest at a table if you want to sleep.

<<<Seriously, I don't mind RP but I really hate "jokes" that are meant to show someone their place as I would assume was the intent.>>>

There was no joke, Sintik really did think your character was ugly. Sorry if you can't deal with me being mean, but that's how I am and I'm not changing that because you don't like it.

<<And even hinting that Galann is an older *brother* is an insult both me and him.>>

I don't care either way. He's still a jackass where he's your "brother" or not.

<<<So continue to discuss or flame/bash. On a side note, Sintik stated that he is quote "Sintik is mean" yet I don't see people jumping up his ass for being a jerk.>>>

Because I'm know at the cul-de-sac for that. Everyone that hangs out there knows me. I do get a lot of shit from people that don't know me. But Drakam, Staerin, Camri, Karri (the player behind Karri, Sintik and Karri hate eachother) are all friends. I'm mean to every single of them. I call them ugly, fat, stupid, etc. However they deal with it and we have fun with it. Nobody jumps down my throat because they know me and we are all friends.

<<<Don't start with the double standards, thanks. Is there really a difference between a well known ass and a new one?>>>

When everyone there was my friend, they do handle me differently. They all are mean back to me, as well. I get stunned, webbed, kicked, and punched constantly. You are taking this way out of hand. ONE person killed you, not all of us (not to mention it was a mistake.) People were being mean because you were being mean. If you can't deal with that, don't be mean......


Oh, and don't go off saying that "They are just nice to you because you are older." Drakam and Staerin can both kill me if they wanted, however we are friends, we get along.

[Scott]

<<<A few things. How can Solkern say someone is an awesome roleplayer when they've just stated in a previous post that they don't give a shit about roleplaying? That's silly.>>>

Solkern has known me from awhile back, however we haven't really talked to eachother for many years. I use to roleplay all the time. However with all the stupid names and constant OOC, I don't care much whether people RP or not. I don't claim to be a great roleplayer, but I can RP. I'm not one of those people who won't talk to people like Garr because he's OOC or something like that. I don't care if people RP or not, I'll acknowledge them no matter what.

[Solkern]

Sintik and I, know Cul-de-sac VERY well, We use to be in there, all the damn time, just fucking around, and people do come down and start shit, and the little ones, start shit all the time, it's quite funny. your mind set, is that you were killed on purpose, when infact you weren't.
So like i said, deal with it, and move on.
You openly stated your a bitch, and your openly going to be treated like one also, your also going to be handled accordingly.

[Solkern]

All because I dont give a shit about roleplaying doesn't mean I can't see a good roleplayer when ones around, stop twisting my words to support your point of view, I can care two shits about roleplaying, because 90% of gs doesn't roleplay, But I do know a few good roleplayers.
From what I remember, Sintik was a good roleplayer, Arkans is also a good roleplayer, so is Ryever.
I find roleplaying POINTLESS in Gs, since no one does it.
However, when I meet a few people that actually DO roleplay, I roleplay to the best of my knowledge.


[Edited on 9-18-2003 by Solkern]

[Solkern]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
A few things. How can Solkern say someone is an awesome roleplayer when they've just stated in a previous post that they don't give a shit about roleplaying? That's silly.

On the other hand, if the people who attacked you were roleplaying, then you have to accept THEIR RP. Maybe they attack rude bitches, that's their RP bit. That's a million times different than Izbin attacking Maimara because of something that was said on the boards.

You said that you don't expect everyone to love her, but maybe their characters automatically attack people they don't love... shrugs... you have to at least consider the possibility.

Just like you want them to consider that you "plan" on RPing a bitch.

-K

First off, if someone roleplays they attack rude bitches, is the person they are attacking, suppose to just sit there? FUCK NO, someone attacks me, they will get killed, that simple.
All you do is think about the action one could possibly take, but not the reaction that's involved.

[Kurili]

I do hate to jump into this, but I have also known Sintik for a good while. And while he doesnt care about RP, he is not at all bad at it. And he will come out and tell you some of the better RP IS in the Cul. Overdramatic, yes. Violent, yes. But the regulars, especially him, dont break character often. Even though you might not approve of that character.

That is all, crawling back to the woodwork now.


Acolyte Kurili

[Praefection]

Heh and here I thought I was going to have a boring night. Relax Sintik since you seem to think I am out to get you and only you. Sorry but that's not the case. When I want to refer to a specific person I'll do my best to try and name them.

One of the reasons I chose to rest and basically be AFK at that particular area is I was hoping to be left alone, clear her mind and hunt before I left for work. I KNOW asses in Gemstone are in general treated poorly. Which I why I want to try and limit the people who I RP around. But Valadia is also the type of person who is going to talk back, period. If I was left alone, this could have been avoided. It was a lack of respect where I think I clearly stated that I do not wish to be bothered.

I have a couple of other thoughts on this topic. I really don't care if you're well known or not by people at the Cul-de-Sac, you're an unknown to both me personally and my character. How am I supposed to know that everything is being said/done in jest? It's really not possible if you think about it. And your insults about my character being ugly, those were insulting? Again, my previous comments weren't aimed at you more as they are aimed at the folks reading. To me, good RP involves conflict that is spoken without resporting to violence. Bickering between people is nothing new to me and I like doing it. Except there and then. I don't believe I am whining about anything that happened but I feel that there are two sides and I'm trying to get my views/ideas across.
On another note. I'm tired tonight and perhaps I was a tad bitchy but I'll stick by my thoughts about this ugly incident being uncalled for.

[Nichan]

Accident or not, the dart attack was not warranted. I tire of higher level players using thier superior strength to bully other players into thier opinion of RP.

Even if this person was a bitch, that is not a reason to attack her, even with your weakest weapon. Using the flare as an excuse and telling someone to 'move on' is pussy bullshit and you know it. Also that comment about someones RP being to attack people... thats bullshit and you know it. If thats the case then SoandSO can say "oh it's my rp to attack nice people I dont know for no reason" BULLSHIT

Although the guy who casted at Sintik lucked out, that bitch deserved a death.

My motto is... dont attack except in self defense.

Any spell cast on another player without permission is technically attacking them. Yes even a defensive spell that helps another player shouldnt be cast without permission( some people might not want it cast on them)

Anyways enough babbling...

[Solkern]

I wont even respond to that post, I could go on and on about shit to say, but I'll let sintik handle it.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Praefection
To me, good RP involves conflict that is spoken without resporting to violence. Bickering between people is nothing new to me and I like doing it. Except there and then. I don't believe I am whining about anything that happened but I feel that there are two sides and I'm trying to get my views/ideas across.

Not all RP is going to be handled the way you want. Not all people who get into problems with someone that has an attitude will be nice enough to continue with the verbal bashing. Some characters do kill just to shut you up and make you go away. That's their roleplay and you need to accept that as much as they have to accept yours. You just can't determine how the RP must be handled.

It seemed to me that you were killed by accident, since you can't purposely kill anyone under the level of two. So relax. You want to have a bitchy character, realize that people won't talk, just cast, and it's unfortunate that people like you who can't handle ALL types of conflict have helped eliminate that option for many people because they start with the claims of "they're pulling around their weight/age" when in actuality they're just responding in their own way.

Some people fight with words, other with actions, and you have to accept both. I dare you to go up to a really big guy, like a bouncer at a bar, and tell him that he's a disgusting black man and to leave you alone (since you did call Karri disgusting), and let's see if he just comes back with a witty retort, or grab you by the neck and toss you on your ear.

Pick your battles, dear, and accept them gracefully.

[Edited on 9/18/2003 by CrystalTears]

[Kurili]

Ahh, but when you asked to be left alone, you opened a whole can of worms.

I have noticed that when someone ASKS to be left alone, unless you're with a few people you know well, you can be DAMN SURE that's exactly what you wont get.

Whoever suggested a table is right. And even there, I'd suggest closing group. Also, there are a lot of nooks all over the Landings that folks dont see or go to much. Find one if you dont like the idea of a table. The Cul has never been a peaceful place, probably never will be.

And some things shouldnt change.

Acolyte Kurili, probably giving HarmNone siezures

[Souzy]

When is there not drama at the Cul de Sac?

[Solkern]

Cul-de-sac STANDS for drama

[DCSL]

Originally posted by Gemstone101
I use to roleplay all the time. However with all the stupid names and constant OOC, I don't care much whether people RP or not. I don't claim to be a great roleplayer, but I can RP. I'm not one of those people who won't talk to people like Garr because he's OOC or something like that. I don't care if people RP or not, I'll acknowledge them no matter what.

You wanna talk about idiotic names, you should look at your friend Karri. Her last name, Shi'ne, means "Die!" in Japanese. L A M E.

Anyway, that's just my comment on this. I don't really care about the rest.

[Scott]

Heh and here I thought I was going to have a boring night. Relax Sintik since you seem to think I am out to get you and only you. Sorry but that's not the case. When I want to refer to a specific person I'll do my best to try and name them.

I don't think that at all. You weren't even the topic of my post, it was the other guy. You were rude, you got killed by accident. Oh well. The guy who came in thinking he was going to push around all of us "youngins" was my point, you just had to be apart of my post because you were the story behind it. You didn't do anything wrong and I'm not offended that you don't like what I said. However I don't care. It's how I play Gemstone. Sorry.


If I was left alone, this could have been avoided. It was a lack of respect where I think I clearly stated that I do not wish to be bothered.

That is a keyword like a jerk like Sintik to go after you. I want to bother people when I play Sintik, you were the perfect person to do that. I didn't though, someone else got to it first because I would have pointed you out right away if someone hadn't have started with you first. I love to cause trouble, always will.


I really don't care if you're well known or not by people at the Cul-de-Sac, you're an unknown to both me personally and my character. How am I supposed to know that everything is being said/done in jest?

It wasn't said it jest. Sintik think's your character is ugly, that's all there is to it. People can figure out who I am when I talk to them. It normally takes people a few seconds to realize I'm not nice.


but I'll stick by my thoughts about this ugly incident being uncalled for.

You are lucky you didn't last long then. I get a lot more rude and nasty then that.

[Kurili]

No drama? Gads, my first one lived there, as did a succession after. There was ALWAYS drama, and you had to sidestep falling bodies and flying spells.

The Cul is kinda like some badass biker bar. Be prepared to duck, and speak nicely until you're a bit accepted. Bad comparison, I know.

Acolyte Kurili

[Scott]

<<<<You wanna talk about idiotic names, you should look at your friend Karri. Her last name, Shi'ne, means "Die!" in Japanese. L A M E.

Anyway, that's just my comment on this. I don't really care about the rest.>>>

I bet you are one of the few who know that. I know I had no idea, and I'm sure most here had no idea anyway (including Karri). Karri is one of the best roleplayers in Gemstone, and like I said, I don't care about stupid names and such as I can look past that stuff, unlike some people who are like "Well that person has a stupid name, I won't talk to them." Maybe if you took the time to get to know some of these people, you'd see they are great roleplayers like Karri.

By the way, this wasn't directed at the poster, I'm just saying.

[Praefection]

Perhaps not hunting much in the Cul-de-Sac has a lot to do with it. Most of my older characters spent very little time in there and I don't keep up on the current gossip of what happens around Elanthia. I agree about asking to be bothered when I wanted to be left alone. It's a kick in the pants that I should avoid people as they might repeat what happened here. But on the downside how exactly am I supposed to meet new people if you're not willing to RP how you believe for fear of being attacked/killed/maimed, etc? I have never played a really dark persona before and this is going to be a learning process so I guess I will have to chalk it up as a good thing in the long run. Playing a darker side takes a fine skill and I'm positive I'll have a lot of such experiences if I don't watch myself. If I agreed to the conflict I wouldn't have a single bad thing to say but it does show my that some people are willing to step beyond what I am willing to do for the sake of fun. Being attacked and killed is a part of the game but it's almost as bad as attacking a *snert* for being OOC. Neither are acceptable to me.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Praefection
But on the downside how exactly am I supposed to meet new people if you're not willing to RP how you believe for fear of being attacked/killed/maimed, etc? I have never played a really dark persona before and this is going to be a learning process so I guess I will have to chalk it up as a good thing in the long run. Playing a darker side takes a fine skill and I'm positive I'll have a lot of such experiences if I don't watch myself. If I agreed to the conflict I wouldn't have a single bad thing to say but it does show my that some people are willing to step beyond what I am willing to do for the sake of fun. Being attacked and killed is a part of the game but it's almost as bad as attacking a *snert* for being OOC. Neither are acceptable to me.

Not to be mean or anything but just have one more thing to say...

Tough noogies. Take the heat or get out of the kitchen. Join the league of bitchy people who die daily and don't come back saying people aren't roleplaying to their liking.

[DCSL]

Originally posted by Gemstone101
<<<<You wanna talk about idiotic names, you should look at your friend Karri. Her last name, Shi'ne, means "Die!" in Japanese. L A M E.

Anyway, that's just my comment on this. I don't really care about the rest.>>>

I bet you are one of the few who know that. I know I had no idea, and I'm sure most here had no idea anyway (including Karri). Karri is one of the best roleplayers in Gemstone, and like I said, I don't care about stupid names and such as I can look past that stuff, unlike some people who are like "Well that person has a stupid name, I won't talk to them." Maybe if you took the time to get to know some of these people, you'd see they are great roleplayers like Karri.

By the way, this wasn't directed at the poster, I'm just saying.


But.... you DID say you cared about stupid names. Because of the stupid names and constant OOC, you found yourself not caring anymore about if they role-played or not.

Or maybe I'm just tired.

[Solkern]

He use to, not anymore, is what he was applying.

[Kurili]

Again, from the logs, I think it was very much an accident that your character died. But there will be a lot of people in your character's future who will be aiming to kill, for no other reason that they didnt like what you said. Or the race of your character. Or any one of a number of things. Doesnt mean it's going to be all RPing, but it will happen, and more to a less-pleasant character I think.

Acolyte Kurili

[DCSL]

Wait, one more comment. How do you know she's one of the best role-players in Gemstone? Have you met everyone in Gemstone? She didn't look to stellar there to me.

I hate blanket statements that manage to insult a vast majority of people. If I'm not better than that, I feel very insulted. Good thing you've never met any of my characters.

Heh! And I doubt you care. You're a big bad "I'm rude and I don't care!" guy. Kinda' like Klaive in some of his... moments.

[Scott]

<<<But.... you DID say you cared about stupid names. Because of the stupid names and constant OOC, you found yourself not caring anymore about if they role-played or not.

Or maybe I'm just tired.>>>

I did. I said I don't care about roleplaying anymore because of stupid names and constant OOCness. I didn't say however that I left people out and avoided them because of their stupid names. I don't care about roleplay anymore because the staff doesn't. Hardly anyone roleplays in Gemstone anymore, so I'm not someone who freaks out when someone says AS or DS. Besides, Karri isn't a stupid name. You are probably like 1 of 5 people in Gemstone that know that means DIE in Japanese, it's not a stupid name. Names like "Snowhite" "Goldelocks" and "Noarms" are the dumb names. However like I said before, I don't care about dumb names when it comes to talking to them.

[DCSL]

To me, giving your character a name like shi ne is the equivilant of Evilsorcerer. You want to look bad, evil, scary... woooooooo. It makes me not take the person seriously.

And I doubt it's just five people. It's an oft-used phrase in many popular anime and manga and those shoot for the same geek demographic here in America that Gemstone III does.

[Praefection]

I'm curious as to why people who are played as being less than nice seem to be the match that starts a fire. From my view point (and yes, I'll admit it's slightly biased) I don't think my words are any worse than others I've seen on a regular basis. And I would have to agree with the various posters about the differences in what someone considers RP. I know everyone has an opinion about what happened and that's their right.... but when I want to join the list of known bitchy people I want it to be on my terms when my character is old enough to offer more of a defense than a sharp mouth. And in all honesty, my character is an empath so for a very, very long time she wouldn't really be able to defend herself except by the barbs on her tongue. Overall I'm frustrated at how much Gemstone has degraded into a might is right group of people who feel they need to show themselves up. I'm rambling again so I'll stop now before I add more to the fodder.

[Scott]

<<<Wait, one more comment. How do you know she's one of the best role-players in Gemstone? Have you met everyone in Gemstone? She didn't look to stellar there to me.>>>

ONE of the best. You don't have to meet everyone in the game to claim someone is one of the best roleplayers in the game. And what are you talking about her being a bad roleplayer there? She killed someone by accident. However I'm sure she would have killed this person anyway because she is evil. Karri attempts to kill Sintik every day because Sintik is Faendryl. She's a murderer and hates all other races, she was completely IC there. I have yet to meet someone who plays a evil character better then her.

<<<I hate blanket statements that manage to insult a vast majority of people. If I'm not better than that, I feel very insulted. Good thing you've never met any of my characters.>>>

You saw Karri for what, 5 seconds? She's such a horrible roleplayer because she killed someone with a dart! She was IC the whole time and attempted to maim the character, it just so happened the dart flared and killed the person. She wasn't happy she killed the person, but she stayed IC and played it out.

<<<Heh! And I doubt you care. You're a big bad "I'm rude and I don't care!" guy. Kinda' like Klaive in some of his... moments. >>>

Please. I don't quake the park, I don't do stupid shit like that. I fight with people who annoy me, say stupid things and I comment on them, or I just poke some fun at people to get a rise out of them for a reason (IE not being Faendryl). All a person has to do is whisper to me that they don't like what I'm saying and I'll end all conversation with them and that's that. I don't care if people find Sintik offensive in gemstone, that's how I play him. I'm a badass because I don't care what people think of my RP?

I don't go causing trouble and then run to town when someone is mad at me. I handle what people throw at me. Klaive hides in town when he pisses people off. I'm nothing like him.

[Scott]

Originally posted by DCSL
To me, giving your character a name like shi ne is the equivilant of Evilsorcerer. You want to look bad, evil, scary... woooooooo. It makes me not take the person seriously.

And I doubt it's just five people. It's an oft-used phrase in many popular anime and manga and those shoot for the same geek demographic here in America that Gemstone III does.

Karri is an actual american name. Karri webb, the golfer for example. It's not just a japanese phrase.

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by Solkern

Originally posted by SpunGirl
A few things. How can Solkern say someone is an awesome roleplayer when they've just stated in a previous post that they don't give a shit about roleplaying? That's silly.

On the other hand, if the people who attacked you were roleplaying, then you have to accept THEIR RP. Maybe they attack rude bitches, that's their RP bit. That's a million times different than Izbin attacking Maimara because of something that was said on the boards.

You said that you don't expect everyone to love her, but maybe their characters automatically attack people they don't love... shrugs... you have to at least consider the possibility.

Just like you want them to consider that you "plan" on RPing a bitch.

-K

First off, if someone roleplays they attack rude bitches, is the person they are attacking, suppose to just sit there? FUCK NO, someone attacks me, they will get killed, that simple.
All you do is think about the action one could possibly take, but not the reaction that's involved.

Sorry Solkern, I think you missed something. I was addressing you in the first paragraph, but after that someone else. I should have made that more clear.

Next: CT is right. Roleplaying is about doing what you do, and then other people react (NOT always how you want or expect), and then you react, et cetera. Person Whose Character Was Killed and is Whining: If you want to have total control, cancel your GS accounts immediately and go play the SIMS.

-K

Fixed the bit on that, Sintik.

[Edited on 9-18-2003 by SpunGirl]

[Scott]

I hope you don't mean the original poster of the thread, but the poster who's character was killed......

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Praefection
I'm curious as to why people who are played as being less than nice seem to be the match that starts a fire.

Because not everyone can tolerate attitudes well.


From my view point (and yes, I'll admit it's slightly biased) I don't think my words are any worse than others I've seen on a regular basis

You called a dwarf disgusting. I've seen people die for way less, even just glancing at them sideways.


I know everyone has an opinion about what happened and that's their right.... but when I want to join the list of known bitchy people I want it to be on my terms when my character is old enough to offer more of a defense than a sharp mouth.

::laughs:: Good luck getting it done on "your" terms. Perhaps if you weren't ready to deal with actions yet, you should have started with the mouth at a later time. When exactly? When you are old enough to bully people back with your spells too? Might makes right when you have it, yes?


Overall I'm frustrated at how much Gemstone has degraded into a might is right group of people who feel they need to show themselves up. I'm rambling again so I'll stop now before I add more to the fodder.

Oh please. If anything it has lessened through the years because once upon a time you would get killed if you asked for a bless more than twice in the span of an hour. Things have dumbed down for the likes of you who want to play bitchy but can't handle it.

Incidently, evil does not equal rude or nasty.

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by Gemstone101
I hope you don't mean the original poster of the thread, but the poster who's character was killed......

Bah, yes, that is what I mean.

It's late and I've taken two excedrin PM.

-K

[Praefection]

<::laughs:: Good luck getting it done on "your" terms. Perhaps if you weren't ready to deal with actions yet, you should have started with the mouth at a later time. When exactly? When you are old enough to bully people back with your spells too? Might makes right when you have it, yes? >

And let the claws come out! Please do explain why wanting to be a bit older to protect yourself being being abused by someone who is older or more skilled wrong? Those who are younger will most likely always be the victims and that's one role I don't feel like playing. I find the idea of being a bully even more revolting and I think they day where I felt I needed to push someone around would be the day I quit Gemstone.

[CrystalTears]

Someone please clarify something for me. Someone is mouthing off or being a general nuisance and they get killed. What exactly is there to defend? They started with the attitude and someone else finished it, what exactly needs to be retaliated? Perhaps this is why feuds never end because no one will admit that they started it and the way that it was finished wasn't acceptable.

By the way, there is ALWAYS someone older than you, so yes the weaker will always be the victims if they place themselves there in the first place.

[Edited on 9/18/2003 by CrystalTears]

[Scott]

Well as much as I'd love talk about this more, I'm tired. So I'm out like a fat kid in dodge ball.

Oh, and I look foward to waking up and having millions of replies!

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by Praefection
<::laughs:: Good luck getting it done on "your" terms. Perhaps if you weren't ready to deal with actions yet, you should have started with the mouth at a later time. When exactly? When you are old enough to bully people back with your spells too? Might makes right when you have it, yes? >

And let the claws come out! Please do explain why wanting to be a bit older to protect yourself being being abused by someone who is older or more skilled wrong? Those who are younger will most likely always be the victims and that's one role I don't feel like playing. I find the idea of being a bully even more revolting and I think they day where I felt I needed to push someone around would be the day I quit Gemstone.

If you don't feel like playing a victim, don't mouth off to people with short tempers. People with an attitude problem will inevitably be a victim sooner or later. Just because you wouldn't bully someone with spells or weapons doesn't mean they have to endure YOUR bullying with your mouth.

-K

[HarmNone]

Heh. Never, never, never go to the cul-de-sac and announce that you wish to rest and be left alone. It WILL NOT happen. Best place to rest would be somewhere that people do not go to "hang out", like one of the housing areas, or a table, house, or private room. The cul-de-sac is, like the niche, a really bad choice.

If you intend to play an antagonistic character, you are going to have problems if you start being antagonistic as a youngun. Think about it for a moment. The young and the weak are fodder in a land like Elanthia. Therefore, they will not show their antagonistic side until they are able to back up their taunts with action, should action come their way.

Reading the logs, I really do believe that the intent was not to kill. The flare could not be planned. It just happened. What resulted was unintended, but once it happened, it had to be coped with. There is reason to hold a grudge, but a young one will not be able to act on that grudge for some time...maybe, never.

HarmNone figures evil has to grow

[Praefection]

Being a bully by talking is no where near the same extent as being a bully with your weapons/skills, or whatever else you want to use. Using your weapon to enforce something is the easy way out while using your wit to verbally spar with someone is much more effective. You're seen ONE of my characters from that very brief log that consisted of under 15 sentences. That small slice of personality being displayed is not the whole concept of what I usually try and bring out with people. I like to think I am able to know when to stop with the mouth if I think someone can't handle, or is taking what I say too seriously. That dark side is the opposite of what I am and roleplaying is about exploring otherwise unknown facets of yourself and bringing them to life.

Being older on the other hand doesn't always mean that person will abuse the power they've earned. In my time I've met some great people who had ancient characters and were the most amazing people around. Sure they are now fewer and farther between but maybe I'll just let the next idiot who wants to cause trouble indulge themselves without a peep of protest since it's pointless to try and stop it myself. Yeah, that works just fine as I crawl under my desk and hide all those mean, nasty people who are out to get me, and only me. (Yes, it was sarcasm. Laugh.)

[Praefection]

From HarmNone <The flare could not be planned. It just happened.>

No offense to you, but if you're going to throw a weapon at a youngin, wouldn't you at least know if the dang thing flared or not? Hiding behind "it was an accident!" doesn't go easily with me. Heck, it's almost like saying "I didn't know a drake weapon flared." I know most people know their weapons so while it might not have been meant to kill, I'm positive the person knew it was a possibility. Or at least knew that it was a flaring weapon.

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by Praefection
Being a bully by talking is no where near the same extent as being a bully with your weapons/skills, or whatever else you want to use. Using your weapon to enforce something is the easy way out while using your wit to verbally spar with someone is much more effective.

That might be your opinion, and that's fine, you're entitled. But so are the other few thousand people who play GS, and if their opinion is that smartmouths should be attacked, you have to deal with that.

If you're not prepared, either shut your mouth or go play the SIMS. It's really not a difficult concept to wrap your head around.

-K

[HarmNone]

I understand where you are trying to go, Praefection. At least, I think I do. However, roleplaying is only semi-alive in GemStone3. Some will roleplay with you and others will not. Some will attack and consider it roleplay. For them, it is roleplay.

Good luck with your efforts to explore playing a "dark side" character. It can be very difficult, but also a lot of fun if you can just get to the point where others understand what you are doing and are willing to work with you. There are those who will (at least, I think there still are). Hopefully, you will be able to find some people who will help you along.

HarmNone wishes you good luck

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Praefection
From HarmNone <The flare could not be planned. It just happened.>

No offense to you, but if you're going to throw a weapon at a youngin, wouldn't you at least know if the dang thing flared or not? Hiding behind "it was an accident!" doesn't go easily with me. Heck, it's almost like saying "I didn't know a drake weapon flared." I know most people know their weapons so while it might not have been meant to kill, I'm positive the person knew it was a possibility. Or at least knew that it was a flaring weapon.

Yes, I agree that the person probably knew it was a possiblity. However, they did not PLAN it. It happened. Now, you need to deal with it as it happened. Like I said, there is room for grudge-holding here. I know my dark character would be muttering curses and trying to figure a way to get even...but, she would have been doing it under her breath, so to speak. She would know that she could not stand against the elements she had brought into being by her remark. Time, and planning, would have been her answer. ;)

HarmNone can hold a grudge for years

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by HarmNone
Good luck with your efforts to explore playing a "dark side" character. It can be very difficult, but also a lot of fun if you can just get to the point where others understand what you are doing and are willing to work with you.

"Working with" someone shouldn't include bending to one person's perception of how conflict should be handled, and I'll give you a good example.

My character is a "dark side" character. She's not outright rude or nasty 90% of the time, but when she is, both she and I are prepared for the consequences. There was a day in Solhaven she wouldn't stop taunting Turinrond over the amunet. She taunted, taunted, taunted. He got mad. She said some very "verbally witty" things, IMO. He taunted back, got sick of her smartass mouth, and came and killed her.

You don't see me whining about it. Because, um, it was roleplay. I didn't necessarily WANT my girl to get killed, but it was a logical result of her not shutting her trap when she should have.

-K

[CrystalTears]

I'm sorry but I disagree that attacking is not roleplaying. Attacking for no reason is, but if it's provoked, I see nothing wrong it. It's not my type of roleplaying, but if that's how some characters react to situations they don't like, then that's their roleplay. To say that all people who attack to resolve their problems are not roleplaying is not a fair assumption.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
I'm sorry but I disagree that attacking is not roleplaying. Attacking for no reason is, but if it's provoked, I see nothing wrong it. It's not my type of roleplaying, but if that's how some characters react to situations they don't like, then that's their roleplay. To say that all people who attack to resolve their problems are not roleplaying is not a fair assumption.

What you are saying, CT, is exactly what I said. To some people, attacking when irked IS their roleplay. It would not be my choice, either. However, it is their choice.

HarmNone reiterates

[SpunGirl]

Which is what people have been saying for like the last three pages, HarmNone. I feel like I should go bang my head against the wall now, it would be more productive and maybe put me to sleep.

-K

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
"Working with" someone shouldn't include bending to one person's perception of how conflict should be handled, and I'll give you a good example.

My character is a "dark side" character. She's not outright rude or nasty 90% of the time, but when she is, both she and I are prepared for the consequences. There was a day in Solhaven she wouldn't stop taunting Turinrond over the amunet. She taunted, taunted, taunted. He got mad. She said some very "verbally witty" things, IMO. He taunted back, got sick of her smartass mouth, and came and killed her.

You don't see me whining about it. Because, um, it was roleplay. I didn't necessarily WANT my girl to get killed, but it was a logical result of her not shutting her trap when she should have.

-K

Agreed. I think, what we are all saying is: People roleplay differently. What is expected from one cannot be expected from another. My dark character would probably have pulled this one aside and discussed possible truly nasty alternatives for future application. While doing so, part of the time would have been spent teaching this new "dark" character a few of the rules of the road. It would have been kept in character, as two truly nasty people working toward a new level of absolute nastiness. :D

It is all in how it is done. Praefection can, if effort is made, find those who will help get the player where the character is going. It is a matter of learning how the world works, in my opinion.

I got my arse handed to me many a time, and I enjoyed it each time. Not all people roleplay alike, and not all people learn to roleplay in the same way. That is all I am saying.

HarmNone always giggled when she died

[Praefection]

<you're not prepared, either shut your mouth or go play the SIMS. It's really not a difficult concept to wrap your head around.>

A lot can be said for being hard headed and stuck in my opinions. Maybe I'm wrong for wanting to experience the perfect Sim life but it's nonexistant. I am well aware that I can't control every single little aspect of what happens every single time I log. But, I want the right to be able to try and surround myself with people who are mature and able to work with me in what I want to do. Enough said.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
Which is what people have been saying for like the last three pages, HarmNone. I feel like I should go bang my head against the wall now, it would be more productive and maybe put me to sleep.

-K

Heh. Yeah. It is not easy to get some of these things across to new "dark" types. Even if they have played for awhile, until they have ventured into this special form of roleplay, they have no idea what to expect. When they end up having their heads handed to them for the first time, they are often taken quite aback. ;)

HarmNone has seen it before

[SpunGirl]

"But, I want the right to be able to try and surround myself with people who are mature and able to work with me in what I want to do. Enough said."

Work with you in what YOU want to do? Honey, you don't want to roleplay, you want a drooling entourage. And if that's what you're looking for, you should not a) be hanging out in the cul-de-sac, or b) be looking for anyone who has ideas, wants, and character quirks of their own. Time to quit whining about being killed and get over it already.

-K

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Praefection
A lot can be said for being hard headed and stuck in my opinions. Maybe I'm wrong for wanting to experience the perfect Sim life but it's nonexistant. I am well aware that I can't control every single little aspect of what happens every single time I log. But, I want the right to be able to try and surround myself with people who are mature and able to work with me in what I want to do. Enough said.

You can do this. Just wander around a bit and watch the roleplay. When you see someone whose roleplay comes close to matching what you might like to do, try whispering to them to see if you can get them to work with you. It is worth doing, and you might just be surprised at the reaction you get from some. There are still those, I am sure, who will be glad to give you some pointers on playing the "dark side" at a young age. :D

HarmNone knew a few...she even was one

[CrystalTears]

Heh, and I want the right to have customers who know how to use a computer so that troubleshooting their problems is a breeze.

I really do understand your frustration with getting killed in confrontations. However You can't control your environment, so you'll always be around people who aren't mature, who are quick tempered and a quick draw, and who don't argue with words quite as well as others. You have to take the bad with the good. You need to be as mature as how you want the people around you to be.

I'm still not clear on what you mean by "work" with you. Still sounds like you want them to roleplay in your fashion and it's not going to happen.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
Work with you in what YOU want to do? Honey, you don't want to roleplay, you want a drooling entourage. And if that's what you're looking for, you should not a) be hanging out in the cul-de-sac, or b) be looking for anyone who has ideas, wants, and character quirks of their own. Time to quit whining about being killed and get over it already.

-K

SpunGirl is right as rain. The cul-de-sac is not the place for you at this point in your character's life. Also, if you are going to play this kind of character, you can bet your bippy you are going to die for it more than once. You will learn to live with that aspect of your roleplay as you go along. Complaining about it, here or anywhere else, is not going to get you where you want to go. That is what we are all trying to tell you, Praefection.

HarmNone

[SpunGirl]

HarmNone, I think you are offering advice that far surpasses what this young dark one has done so far. However, I will have to insert that whispering to someone and asking them to "work" with you is a poor idea in comparison to just befriending them in an IC manner. The few times I've done storylines that were planned out from start to finish with gaps in between, it hasn't gone as well as I'd have liked. That's because it's a bad idea to try and control things too much or expect people to react a certain way.

-K, sometimes wishes she was as nice as HarmNone but she's just not.

[Edited on 9-18-2003 by SpunGirl]

[HarmNone]

I had people whisper to me on a number of occasions asking for advice on how to get started with a "dark character". It never bothered me at all. We would go someplace private and talk about what works in Elanthia and what does not work. Some people do not care to do this, but there are those who will.

Almost never did I plan out roleplay. What I did do was work with these players with imagined scenaria, helping them to see the possibilities and the difference in roleplay "types". Planning roleplay never works. There are as many possibilities as there are people. One must always be prepared for the unexpected, no matter what one sets out to do. It is a matter of learning, and it takes time.

HarmNone

[SpunGirl]

Wise words indeed.

-K

[HarmNone]

Heh. The HarmNone that posts here tries to be nice, most of the time (there have been...errmmm, lapses). :D

However, a couple of the characters I played over the years were anything but nice. ;)

HarmNone sorta liked being ornery

[Praefection]

Different strokes for different folks. What I think of as being dark isn't exactly what I can imagine someone else as thinking it to be. I think the one other person who knows me, so to speak would mostly likely choose the label as being "misguided" but I'm not going to bitch, moan or complain. Obviously I've been whining for the last god knows how many posts as people tried to explain to me the error of my ways. Mhm.

`t.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Praefection
Different strokes for different folks. What I think of as being dark isn't exactly what I can imagine someone else as thinking it to be. I think the one other person who knows me, so to speak would mostly likely choose the label as being "misguided" but I'm not going to bitch, moan or complain. Obviously I've been whining for the last god knows how many posts as people tried to explain to me the error of my ways. Mhm.

`t.

Ooooh! One of the best roleplayers of someone "misguided" that I ever saw was Gretel. It is really a shame that she is not still about. She was a master at playing the part and could have really given you some wonderful pointers, Praefection.

HarmNone admired Gretel's player

[Caramia]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
I'm sorry but I disagree that attacking is not roleplaying. Attacking for no reason is, but if it's provoked, I see nothing wrong it. It's not my type of roleplaying, but if that's how some characters react to situations they don't like, then that's their roleplay. To say that all people who attack to resolve their problems are not roleplaying is not a fair assumption.

I'll partially agree with that statement, but I'd add that people who hide behind their attacks as roleplaying because they think an insult or someone lipping off is consent aren't roleplaying either. They're just using it as an excuse to attack.

No way would I roleplay a character that was thin-skinned or got easily tweaked at a comment or some smart-mouthing.

I'd at least attempt a battle of wits and intellect first before casting that spell or swinging that blade. Chances are I'd learn the person I'd entered into conflict with was a lamer RPer and a waste of my time and energy.

I have dark and light characters, and amusingly, my light characters seem to get into more conflicts than my darker ones. The dark characters just find blowhards all too entertaining and ignore them.

[Betheny]

I find it infinitely amusing th at Sintik can call someone one of the best roleplayers in Gemstone, yet he gets down on people that are confident about their ability to roleplay.

Maybe his standards aren't so high. If you think I just suddenly decided one day that I was good at RPing, you're wrong. It takes a year or so of build up and good feedback to think that about one's self.

[Betheny]

Originally posted by Praefection
No offense to you, but if you're going to throw a weapon at a youngin, wouldn't you at least know if the dang thing flared or not?

If someone initiates an arguement with me and it comes to blows, whether they're 1 train or 100, they get the same treatment. I didn't read most of the log, I don't know if the attack was warranted, I don't care. My point is: Being young does not get you prefferential treatment. Unless you're thumpable. I prefer thumping to casting when it comes down to it.

[Edited on 9-18-2003 by Maimara]

[Edaarin]

I really think that thump needs to be adjusted. Doesn't work on nearly enough people.

[IcyPoison]

The best part that I saw was when Galann was put in his place after jumping in where he didn't belong.

He was quite upset at not being the big man that he thought he was.

[StrayRogue]

I tend to find that the cul-de-sac is 45% OOC or sleeping rat hunter, 5% RP, and 50% posturing by those who keep getting owned on the boulder and who need someone weaker to pick on.

[Betheny]

I never understood why people rested there. It's not even a node. And the people are mean.

[Artha]

And the people are mean.

And stupid.

[Betheny]

I never stuck around long enough to make a guess on the intelligence level there. I just kind of figured since they were talking about baseball I'd leave. It's like... you are what you eat. You're also who you hang out with.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Praefection
From HarmNone <The flare could not be planned. It just happened.>

No offense to you, but if you're going to throw a weapon at a youngin, wouldn't you at least know if the dang thing flared or not? Hiding behind "it was an accident!" doesn't go easily with me. Heck, it's almost like saying "I didn't know a drake weapon flared." I know most people know their weapons so while it might not have been meant to kill, I'm positive the person knew it was a possibility. Or at least knew that it was a flaring weapon.


People who play dark characters will encounter more trouble than others, but I must agree with Praefection on this point.

To try to hide behind a pathetic excuse of not knowing that what they were using could flare and kill someone is in NO way better than an idiot who casts implode instead of say airwall.

If you can not contol your magics, do not use them, and you are too witless to know what abilities your weapons have, don't use them on others.

It's not that complicated.

[Camri]

People who play dark characters will encounter more trouble than others, but I must agree with Praefection on this point.

To try to hide behind a pathetic excuse of not knowing that what they were using could flare and kill someone is in NO way better than an idiot who casts implode instead of say airwall.

If you can not contol your magics, do not use them, and you are too witless to know what abilities your weapons have, don't use them on others.

It's not that complicated. [/quote]

You're right. Darker mean characters do encounter more more trouble than the others. Camri is a bitch and she always has to have the last word. She taunts and provokes out of boredom.

But when she taunts the wrong older person and gets killed, I don't whine about it. Also, I try to prevent anyone else from stepping in to her defense in a situation that Camri has created with her mouth. I figure, when someone is willing to start a situation, they should be willing to take whatever comes of it, or they shouldn't have started it.

Now as far as the flaring dart... The player behind Karri does not uphold bullying young characters. Karri was simply reacting the way her character is played. The other girl called her a disgusting dwarf, and something else. The killing was accidental on Karri's part. But another character might have intentionally killed her for the same thing. She should have been prepared for that when she opened her mouth.

Throwing a dart at someone that just called her a smelly dwarf was very IC for Karri. There was a 50/50 chance it could flare, it did, she paid the fine.

I don't remember anywhere it was said that Karri didn't know the dart could flare. She was simply playing her character in IC fashion.

Edited for spelling

[Edited on 9-18-2003 by Camri]

[Notsosweet]

[quote]Originally posted by Praefection
I have to thank you all for killing my new character. So here it is. Thanks! Yes, I am the soul behind Valania and it's really sad you guys resort to that kind of shit. She is level one and no threat except having an IC attitude. I'll post my own log of what happened. Edited to remove all the needless crap. Have fun reading.

Well seems to me you dont hang out much in the Cul even with your other character. If you did then you would realise being a smart ass can get you into trouble. You walked in there and started with eveyone to act " all bad " I cannot stand when someone who has an older character walks in somehwere and acts like a smartass. Then they cry about being attacked when they brought it on themselves. Get over it and stop crying . You get what you deserve. If you cant play nice then dont play at all .

[StrayRogue]

Live with it. People like to push their weight around. Why? Because they are sad little losers.

[Scott]

Originally posted by Maimara
I find it infinitely amusing th at Sintik can call someone one of the best roleplayers in Gemstone, yet he gets down on people that are confident about their ability to roleplay.

Yeah that's almost true. I find it quite easy to judge others RPing. Calling myself a good RPer is a biased opionion. Just like you think you are a good RPer, but I find you to be horrible at it. You are like Warclaidhm JR. You warn people because you don't want to deal with. Good RPer's can handle conflict, even if the other person is just being an asshole.


Maybe his standards aren't so high. If you think I just suddenly decided one day that I was good at RPing, you're wrong. It takes a year or so of build up and good feedback to think that about one's self.

I don't have high standards at all. As I said before, I don't care if you are the crappiest RPer in Gemstone. However to call yourself a great roleplayer and say things like "I won't talk to people or hang out with people who can't roleplay" because you think you are this amazing RPer is just sad. HEY! I'm unable to handle a conflict on my own! WARN, REPORT, ASSIST. Excellent handleing of the most OOC verbs in Gemstone. Congrats!

[StrayRogue]

While Sintik often raises my hackles and is one of the prime reasons I stay away from the cul-de-sac, I agree with his stance on "I am better than you, so I won't try to play with you". Its why I hate Solhaven and RR. Why should I have to prove myself? Surely people should be trying to help my RP (or whomever), instead of condemning it.

[StrayRogue]

I've said it once, twice and a hundred times and now I will say it again: Warn is for pussies who cannot handle the stuff they often get themselves into. Report, while still being OOC, is not totally in your face like Warn. Warn, IMHO is yet another "addition" that spoils GS.

[DCSL]

Originally posted by Gemstone101

Karri is an actual american name. Karri webb, the golfer for example. It's not just a japanese phrase.

Eh, it's not her first name. It's the last. Shi ne.

[DCSL]

Originally posted by Gemstone101
<<<Wait, one more comment. How do you know she's one of the best role-players in Gemstone? Have you met everyone in Gemstone? She didn't look to stellar there to me.>>>

ONE of the best. You don't have to meet everyone in the game to claim someone is one of the best roleplayers in the game. And what are you talking about her being a bad roleplayer there? She killed someone by accident. However I'm sure she would have killed this person anyway because she is evil. Karri attempts to kill Sintik every day because Sintik is Faendryl. She's a murderer and hates all other races, she was completely IC there. I have yet to meet someone who plays a evil character better then her.

<<<I hate blanket statements that manage to insult a vast majority of people. If I'm not better than that, I feel very insulted. Good thing you've never met any of my characters.>>>

You saw Karri for what, 5 seconds? She's such a horrible roleplayer because she killed someone with a dart! She was IC the whole time and attempted to maim the character, it just so happened the dart flared and killed the person. She wasn't happy she killed the person, but she stayed IC and played it out.

<<<Heh! And I doubt you care. You're a big bad "I'm rude and I don't care!" guy. Kinda' like Klaive in some of his... moments. >>>

Please. I don't quake the park, I don't do stupid shit like that. I fight with people who annoy me, say stupid things and I comment on them, or I just poke some fun at people to get a rise out of them for a reason (IE not being Faendryl). All a person has to do is whisper to me that they don't like what I'm saying and I'll end all conversation with them and that's that. I don't care if people find Sintik offensive in gemstone, that's how I play him. I'm a badass because I don't care what people think of my RP?

I don't go causing trouble and then run to town when someone is mad at me. I handle what people throw at me. Klaive hides in town when he pisses people off. I'm nothing like him.

I have no problem with her killing people, geez. I really have no care one way or the other on the issue that everyone's taken up on this thread. Honestly.

I say she was less than stellar because currently, my standard of good role-playing requires more expression, more movement. More than just standing there and talking. I mean... when you talk to someone, do you just stand there and let your mouth move without doing anything else?

I don't. But then, maybe I just have too much energy... But in an emotionally charged atmosphere like that (hate is an emotion!) I'd expect more than some evil grunting and a dark tone.

I'm one of those people that thinks the regular verbs don't convey enough sometimes, or they convey the wrong thing... like making the person look silly when it's meant as a serious action.

Call me elitist if you want, but ACT is my friend. Yeah, not for all situations... but she could have fit some really evil-looking stuff in there! I know I would have. At least she can type. I'll give 'er that.. (pet peeve..)

[Vesi]

Originally posted by CrystalTears Incidently, evil does not equal rude or nasty.

I think this needs to be said again. I know my 'evil' character isn't rude or nasty.

I remember the night the Landing was being burned down by Morvule and the only 'safe' spot was in front of the temple. I had people whispering to my character to not believe the Luukosians because they were evil and liars and I was egging them on saying things like 'oh really?' and 'my, my'. Next thing they saw me join up with said 'evil guys'. Since it was a safe spot all they could do were things like kick me and give me dirty looks. Oh, and their whispers changed dramatically. Such fun! (oh... and my character was maybe 5 trains at the time)

Vesi

[GSLeloo]

Poor Sintik.. being attacked on his birthday! Sintik only kills people that are worth it so shouldn't focus on him...

[Vesi]

I didn't realize there were so many pages when I posted. Oh well... one of my points was you can be young and still be evil. My character was evil, the people warning me had just never taken the time to find out how she really felt about things. (she might have told them, however being the good Luukosian she is, she probably would have just lied).

She was slept, thumped, kicked, and cast at more that day than all the other days she'd been around. By people that normally were really nice to her at Hearthstone. I was rolling. Loved every minute of it.

Vesi

[Caramia]

Being dark and evil doesn't always have to translate to mean, rude, or someone that attacks at drop of the hat for the stupidest reasons.

I've played with plenty of dark characters that don't feel the need to demonstrate their big bad selves by casting spells or attacking people for stupid reasons and are much more effectively impressive by their cunning demeanor. Quite a common mistake to make, that thinking evil and dark = physical brutal and violent.

[Solkern]

Doesn't mean...BUT can mean...

[Caramia]

Doesn't mean...BUT can mean...

Sure... if you want to be like every other boring dark and evil baddie in the game.

[Hips]

How come the day I go to Teras is the day all the fun stuff in the cul happens? :(

And... Sintik isn't mean or evil. He's fun to be around! Just try calling him a cross-dressing sorceress. ;)

[Kurili]

Cross-dressing Sorceress?

Hmmm

Acolyte Kurili

[Solkern]

Originally posted by Caramia
Doesn't mean...BUT can mean...

Sure... if you want to be like every other boring dark and evil baddie in the game.

I didn't apply that all i applied is you can be dark and evil in many ways, who gives a flying fuck is your trendy

[Caramia]

Originally posted by Solkern
I didn't apply that all i applied is you can be dark and evil in many ways, who gives a flying fuck is your trendy

That's IMPLIED, sugar. Actually, yes you did imply it, which is why I added my comment.

I'd wouldn't call being a typical cookie cutter baddie trendy, either.