Wuhan Virus

[Tgo01]

As for Burr and his meeting, it was The Tarheel Club, entry cost $10,000. I don't think we can equate that with "open to the public."

Here is what Burr had to say:


This lunch was hosted on Feb. 27 by the North Carolina State Society. It was publicly advertised and widely attended.

NPR knew, but did not report, that attendees also included many non-members, bipartisan congressional staff, and representatives from the governor’s office.

Every state has a state society. They aren’t “secretive” or “high-dollar donor” organizations. They’re great civic institutions that bring people in D.C. together for events, receptions, and lunches.

And they’re open to anyone who wants to get involved.

Like most members of Congress, I address our state society every year.

That a good thing. That’s what we should be doing.

Meeting constituents and talking to them about the work we’re doing in D.C. is an important part of our job, especially in times of uncertainty.

Of course Burr could be lying but considering the scrutiny he is under and considering how easy it would be to verify these claims I am leaning towards him being truthful here, at least until I have more information from sources that don't come directly from NPR or Daily Beast.

[Gelston]

I had already started stocking up toilet paper

So you're one of those fucking idiots huh?

[Tgo01]

So you're one of those fucking idiots huh?

I'm not hoarding it, I figure I bought enough supplies to last 2 months.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

They are all criminal. Yeah, lets sell our very specific market stocks when the indexes are all at all time highs. Nothing to see here.

[Parkbandit]

Investigate them all in an impartial manner and sort it out from there.

I don't trust the media at all.. so who knows what is actually the truth right now.

[Tgo01]

The trend in Italy is men are twice as likely to die from the Chinese virus as women are. Patriarchy strikes again!

[Neveragain]

Here is what Burr had to say:



Of course Burr could be lying but considering the scrutiny he is under and considering how easy it would be to verify these claims I am leaning towards him being truthful here, at least until I have more information from sources that don't come directly from NPR or Daily Beast.


And they’re open to anyone who wants to get involved.

As long as you have $10,000 for a ticket.

There is a distinct difference between you making an educated guess and these people knowing that Frazier is going down in the 3rd round.

[Tgo01]

As long as you have $10,000 for a ticket.

Burr said it wasn't a high-dollar donor event. He could be lying of course but it would be nice to know what the truth is.

Who is saying it was a 10,000 dollar ticket event?

Unless Burr is doing some political speak: It wasn't a high-dollar DONOR event, just a high-dollar event.

[Gelston]

It is minimum $500 to join the Tarheel Circle, which gets you tickets for such events. The top tier membership is 10k. Some folks there did pay 10k, but some also paid $500, and it wasn't JUST for that event.

And yes, their acronym is THC.

[Archigeek]

The trend in Italy is men are twice as likely to die from the Chinese virus as women are. Patriarchy strikes again!

This was even worse in China. Old Chinese men died at a rate 6x that of old chinese women. The presumed causation? Smoking. Chinese men, especially old men, smoke far more than women.

The moral of the story is don't smoke!

[Gelston]

This was even worse in China. Old Chinese men died at a rate 6x that of old chinese women. The presumed causation? Smoking. Chinese men, especially old men, smoke far more than women.

The moral of the story is don't smoke!

Well, it is a respiratory illness. Italy has a pretty high fatality rate compared to everyone else right now, but I noticed when I was in Italy, people smoke at a lot higher rate then I've seen elsewhere.

[ClydeR]

Is it racist to call the 1918 flu the "Spanish Flu"? Asking for a friend.

[Gelston]

Is it racist to call the 1918 flu the "Spanish Flu"? Asking for a friend.

shut up retard

[Archigeek]

Well, it is a respiratory illness. Italy has a pretty high fatality rate compared to everyone else right now, but I noticed when I was in Italy, people smoke at a lot higher rate then I've seen elsewhere.

Totally true. I think Europeans in general smoke more than Americans. I've read that the most concerning risk factor in the US is obesity. You win some you lose some.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

People in California are flushing t-shirts they've wiped their ass with and now their sewers are clogged up.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/19/flushed-t-shirts-clog-california-citys-sewer-amid-toilet-paper-panic/2880815001/

These are the people that scream and rage over climate change, who shit in the streets and flush shirts and think it's all ok. I really wish we'd have the big one and it'd fall into the ocean like I learned it would in grade school.

[Astray]

Can California break off and die already?

[Risen]

You believe the mortality rate of this virus will be that high? I think you are way way way off. Like by a factor of 100-1000 off

Not believe - bet. And I'd like to be way wrong. Like by a factor of 100 - 1000. Today's tally stands at over 3% globally, or 11% globally depending on how you look at the numbers. My favorite (and should be Tgo01's too, since they ditched the WHO as a source of their data - with reasons) tracker site. Scanning is ok, but reading is better.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

[Parkbandit]

Is it racist to call the 1918 flu the "Spanish Flu"? Asking for a friend.

The only friend you have is the one in your head.

[Tgo01]

Not believe - bet. And I'd like to be way wrong. Like by a factor of 100 - 1000. Today's tally stands at over 3% globally, or 11% globally depending on how you look at the numbers. My favorite (and should be Tgo01's too, since they ditched the WHO as a source of their data - with reasons) tracker site. Scanning is ok, but reading is better.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

The US mortality rate has actually been falling the past couple of days as the US has ramped up testing capabilities. From what I have heard the US is now capable of testing more people per day than any other country in the world.

The mortality rate as of now in the US is still alarming, but it's about 1.28% at the moment, earlier in the week it was near 2%.

But this is what I have been saying all along; right now most of the entire world is only testing people showing symptoms, in countries such as Italy only people showing extreme symptoms because they don't have the testing capacity to test many people, so the mortality rate is very heavily skewed right now because we are mostly testing sick people/really sick people, so it stands to reason a lot of them might die.

But now that everyone in the US is getting tested even if they had minor symptoms/symptoms from another virus such as the cold or flu it's lowering the mortality rate.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A REPEAT LIKE LAST TIME I AM PUTTING THIS SENTENCE IN ALL CAPS FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE OUT THERE, I AM NOT SAYING THIS TREND IS 100% FOR SURE GOING TO CONTINUE, IT COULD EASILY CHANGE FOR THE WORSE IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS, I AM JUST GOING BY THE DATA WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

[Tgo01]

South Korea's mortality rate is currently at 1.15%, just slightly lower than the US' current mortality rate, but considering how many more people the US has the US has a much lower overall mortality rate. So I guess we can stop patting South Korea on the back and start patting the US on the back.

[Neveragain]

Even with a .0115 mortality rate, we are looking at just under 1,000,000 dead in the US alone.

That's using the low end infection rates sited from Harvard, which is projecting between a 20 - 60 % infection rate in the US.

https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20200317.457910/full/

[Tgo01]

Even with a .0115 mortality rate, we are looking at just under 1,000,000 dead in the US alone.

That's using the low end infection rates sited from Harvard, which is projecting between a 20 - 60 % infection rate in the US.

https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20200317.457910/full/

Yeah the US mortality rate is still not good, I just think the real mortality rate isn't that high because we are still only testing people with symptoms or people who have been in close contact with someone who tested positive, not to mention the people out there who do have symptoms but probably just think it's a cold or the flu so aren't being tested.

[Neveragain]

Yeah the US mortality rate is still not good, I just think the real mortality rate isn't that high because we are still only testing people with symptoms or people who have been in close contact with someone who tested positive.

I don't know (none of us do), we still have people going to the fucking beach. They were fogging the streets in China, we see that here and the panic is going to go off the charts.

I just know I'm glad I don't live in a coastal city right now.

[Tgo01]

I just know I'm glad I don't live in a coastal city right now.

Yeah honestly I would be miserable living in California right now, well more so than I would on a normal day living in California.

[Tgo01]

Well Trump must be going a great job handling the China virus because the media has gone from "OMG! We're all gonna die and it's all Trump's fault for not doing enough!!!!" to "OMG! Trump is so racist to call this the China virus!" and "OMG! Trump is so mean to us reporters!" (https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/20/cnn-john-king-trump-peter-alexander/)

My guess is in a month the US media will hardly even be reporting on the China virus in the US and it will be back to politics...I mean of course "journalism"...as usual.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I cannot wait for the overwhelming victory trump will have in November. The snowflakes are going to fucking DIE.

[Archigeek]

Still rationing tests here in Minnesota. More sobering: medical professionals are running out of masks, and are being told that when they run out, they should use bandanas. I kid you not.

On my neighborhood listserv, an ICU nurse asked if people would be willing to sew masks for healthcare professionals. The neighborhood is on it big time. There are videos on YouTube on how to make them.

We are at 115 cases now, 14 days after first case. Makes you wonder how many actual cases there are. Estimates range from 10x to 50x confirmed number.

I've been working from home since Tuesday. 2 of 16 company offices are now closed, while most construction sites continue to build, but at limited ability. Last year's gross income was about 2.1 billion with a nice bonus. This year I'm hoping to stay employed.

[Tgo01]

Nothing to see here, just the Chinese government literally thanking Hillary Clinton and CNN for spreading Communist China propaganda.

https://twitter.com/AmbLINSongtian/status/1240957900962611202?s=20

[Candor]

Even with a .0115 mortality rate, we are looking at just under 1,000,000 dead in the US alone.

That's using the low end infection rates sited from Harvard, which is projecting between a 20 - 60 % infection rate in the US.

One of the few unknowns that might work in our favor is whether the virus will not do well when the temperature gets warmer. Warmer temperatures may do little or nothing to the virus, but on the other hand the virus may die more easily in warmer weather and therefore be more difficult to spread. But we just don't know either way.

[Seran]

Nothing to see here, just the Chinese government literally thanking Hillary Clinton and CNN for spreading Communist China propaganda.

https://twitter.com/AmbLINSongtian/status/1240957900962611202?s=20

Calling someone out for being xenophobic isn't helping spread propaganda, it's the fucking truth. Just like Trump ignoring intel about China's downplay of the virus will be the nail in his political coffin.

[beldannon5]

honestly i doubt the death rate here will be anywhere near the 1m. (any death is unacceptable of course) Life as we know it will be different for a bit. I am hoping very much warm weather help stops the virus. I honestly think democrats have done too much damage to get elected. Trump will get 4 more years imo

[radeek]

just got a 1 month lay-off courtesy of Covid-19...I needed a vacation, or should I say staycation, anyway

[Neveragain]

Calling someone out for being xenophobic isn't helping spread propaganda, it's the fucking truth. Just like Trump ignoring intel about China's downplay of the virus will be the nail in his political coffin.

This shit right here is why our borders have been leaking like a sieve. What's happening now is why you have to have strong borders. Trump started the process of banning flights from China on Jan. 29 and idiots, like yourself, screamed "racist!".

None of this is new, we have been trying to strengthen or borders since the fucking Reagan administration and it's been the same fucking war of words since then.

We have been aware of the threat of a biological disaster since the cold war, but orange man bad. Grow up.

[RichardCranium]

Calling someone out for being xenophobic isn't helping spread propaganda, it's the fucking truth. Just like Trump ignoring intel about China's downplay of the virus will be the nail in his political coffin.

Ohhh, is THAT the nail in his political coffin? There have been so many.

[Methais]

Trump failed by trying to downplay the coronavirus and for being the only commander and chief to publicly shrug off the responsibility and culpability of his office. Failed administration fails and now thousands will die. You literally can't spin that

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTiCQKrxZf7DtqhFEvuYxLARg5ij2C FKmvhsY9JSjjGTiTMnyuz

[Methais]

China is now pushing out the propaganda that they the virus completely under control in their country but now they are being reinfected by the rest of the world.

So China is now claiming the US introduced the Chinese virus into their country, China bought the rest of the world time, China got a handle on the virus in their country, and now CHINA is the victim in all of this because any new infections they have are from the outside world.

Fuck China and anyone defending that piece of shit government.

I really hope that when this is all said and done with the world tells China to go fuck themselves.

99% chance it won't happen because people are stupid as fuck, but yeah.

[Seran]

This shit right here is why our borders have been leaking like a sieve. What's happening now is why you have to have strong borders. Trump started the process of banning flights from China on Jan. 29 and idiots, like yourself, screamed "racist!".

None of this is new, we have been trying to strengthen or borders since the fucking Reagan administration and it's been the same fucking war of words since then.

We have been aware of the threat of a biological disaster since the cold war, but orange man bad. Grow up.

Immigration had nothing to do with how the coronavirus reached our shores, it was from a Washington State resident who was traveling in Wuhan China. The failure of the president in restricting travel and implementing quarantine protocols on overseas travelers as soon as his intelligence agencies reported the emergence is at fault. You're right though, orange man is bad, he is very bad, corrupt, an insurrectionist, a constitutional traitor and a philanderer. I can see exactly why you'd support him.

[Neveragain]

Ross Perot pointing out just how fucked we would be in 2020:

https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/50705174/960x0.jpg?fit=scale

[rolfard]

Bill Gates in 2015 predicting pandemic response


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI

[Parkbandit]

Calling someone out for being xenophobic isn't helping spread propaganda, it's the fucking truth. Just like Trump ignoring intel about China's downplay of the virus will be the nail in his political coffin.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/a3zqvrH40Cdhu/giphy.gif

[Archigeek]

In case you are curious, we're tracking slightly higher than Italy in terms of days since first confirmation to number of current confirmations. We're about 2 weeks behind them. Hopefully we turn this around, and aren't where they are now in 2 weeks.

[Seran]

The increasing number of states and municipalities ordering shelter in place is a good start. 3-5 weeks of that will seriously reduce the amount of community transmission.

[Fortybox]

So much panic for a pseudo pandemic

[Tgo01]

Calling someone out for being xenophobic isn't helping spread propaganda, it's the fucking truth. Just like Trump ignoring intel about China's downplay of the virus will be the nail in his political coffin.

I’m impressed with your typing skill while you have a Chinese dick shoved in your ass and another one in your mouth.

You should see about making this an Olympic sport.

[Tgo01]

Mortality rate of US is currently at 1.19% and South Korea is 1.18%.

As the US ramps up testing capabilities, and is now capable of conducting more tests than any other country, the lower the US mortality rate seems to go.

Of course not many people in the US have officially recovered yet so this could all change rapidly.

[Methais]

People in California are flushing t-shirts they've wiped their ass with and now their sewers are clogged up.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/19/flushed-t-shirts-clog-california-citys-sewer-amid-toilet-paper-panic/2880815001/

These are the people that scream and rage over climate change, who shit in the streets and flush shirts and think it's all ok. I really wish we'd have the big one and it'd fall into the ocean like I learned it would in grade school.

https://i.imgur.com/SHU13id.jpg

[Seran]

Mortality rate of US is currently at 1.19% and South Korea is 1.18%.

As the US ramps up testing capabilities, and is now capable of conducting more tests than any other country, the lower the US mortality rate seems to go.

Of course not many people in the US have officially recovered yet so this could all change rapidly.

The new FDA test approved will also increase the ability to confirm suspected cases which will also make the mortality rate more realistic.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

KC just announced a 30 day shelter order. Yay? Shit is going insane.

30 days at home with my hot wife while I work from home remotely?

OK, I'll suffer in silence like I always do.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

"Authorities said beginning Tuesday, March 24, all residents will be expected to stay at home except for essential needs, or if they work for essentual businesses or services."

[Jeril]

KC just announced a 30 day shelter order. Yay? Shit is going insane.

30 days at home with my hot wife while I work from home remotely?

OK, I'll suffer in silence like I always do.

I heard on the radio that Dr Oz said couples who are stuck at home with each other during this time should have lots of sex.

[Tgo01]

Mayor Dipshit of NYC who let the virus run rampant in his city is now blaming it all on Trump for not sending in the military. The fuck is wrong with him and Democrats?

[Neveragain]

Mayor Dipshit of NYC who let the virus run rampant in his city is now blaming it all on Trump for not sending in the military. The fuck is wrong with him and Democrats?

National guard is a governors call, their governor is terrible and doesn't want to be the one to place national guard in the streets of NYC.

[Seran]

President Dipshit of the United States who let the virus run rampant in his country is now blaming China and everyone else for his lack of actions. What the fuck is wrong with Tgo01 and other Conservatives.

[Gelston]

President Dipshit of the United States who let the virus run rampant in his country is now blaming China and everyone else for his lack of actions. What the fuck is wrong with Tgo01 and other Conservatives.

Man, you idiots bitched when he closed the borders to things coming china and now you are saying he did nothing.

[Neveragain]

President Dipshit of the United States who let the virus run rampant in his country is now blaming China and everyone else for his lack of actions. What the fuck is wrong with Tgo01 and other Conservatives.

Remember when the past 30 years conservatives we're trying to teach democrats about the reasons for having borders and Democrats were all like "OK Boomer"?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/412/134/a47.jpg

[Tgo01]

President Dipshit of the United States who let the virus run rampant in his country is now blaming China and everyone else for his lack of actions. What the fuck is wrong with Tgo01 and other Conservatives.

In January Trump restricted travel from people coming from China.
Democrats: RACIST! XENOPHOBIC! UNNCESSARY!!!

Then he declared coronavirus a public health emergency and created a task force to deal with the Chinese Virus.
Media: Get over it, everyone. The flu is is deadlier than the safe Wuhan virus!

A couple weeks later he restricted travel from Iran.
Democrats: RACIST! XENOPHOBIC! UNNCESSARY!!!

Then he restricted travel from from South Korea.
Democrats: RACIST! XENOPHOBIC! UNNCESSARY!!!

Then he restricted travel from Europe.
Democrats UNNECESSARY! You're punishing our allies!!

Fuck just a week ago Biden was saying all of these travel restrictions were unnecessary, imagine if that walking Alzheimer's ad were president during all of this?

Then when the cases started to uptick in the US in MARCH (mostly just in 3 far left states), after Trump had done all of this in JANUARY and FEBRUARY:
Democrats and media: OMG! Why didn't Trump do something sooner! Oh yeah and don't call it the Chinese Virus or the Wuhan Virus, that's racist!!! Even though we all called it the Wuhan virus first!!!

Fuck you and your new Chinese boyfriends, Seran.

Oh yeah, that's not even all Trump did in January and February, just the ones I remember off the top of my head.

[Tgo01]

Well the good news is the US mortality rate has fallen to about 1%.

Bad news is the US now has almost 37k confirmed cases, over 700 people in severe or critical condition, 392 deaths, and only 178 people have officially recovered so far.

We have a ways to go before we know the true mortality rate, but going by the WHO's definition of mortality rate you just take the number of confirmed deaths and divide it by the number of confirmed cases.

[Archigeek]

Larry Brilliant (epidemiologists) interview about what we could have done better and what to expect:

https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-brilliant-smallpox-epidemiologist/

[Seran]

Remember when the past 30 years conservatives we're trying to teach democrats about the reasons for having borders and Democrats were all like "OK Boomer"?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/412/134/a47.jpg

Again, the virus was brought to our shores by an American citizen through legal travel. Trump anytime in the last three years could have simply told the FAA to conduct screenings and did not. He could have introduced medical quarantine when notified months ago of the emergence of the novel coronavirus, but didn't. Your war against logic is failing, surrender.

[Tgo01]

Larry Brilliant (epidemiologists) interview about what we could have done better and what to expect:

https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-brilliant-smallpox-epidemiologist/


All we got were lies. Saying it’s fake, by saying this is a Democratic hoax.

Well that's as far as I got before I could declare this guy full of shit and had to stop reading.

Just another mouthpiece of the Democratic and Chinese propaganda machine.

[Gelston]

Larry Brilliant (epidemiologists) interview about what we could have done better and what to expect:

https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-brilliant-smallpox-epidemiologist/

Hindsight is 20/20 isn't it? I think for what was known and expected he did just as much as you could expect him to do. You can ALWAYS poke holes in people's response after the events.

[Tgo01]

Trump anytime in the last three years could have simply told the FAA to conduct screenings and did not.

You're blaming Trump for not thinking of this 3 fucking years ago? Are you even for fucking real anymore?

"OMG! Trump didn't plan for this 3 years ago by implementing screening procedures that no other president has ever done before! ORANGE. MAN. BAD!"

[Seran]

In January Trump restricted travel from people coming from China.
Democrats: RACIST! XENOPHOBIC! UNNCESSARY!!!

Then he declared coronavirus a public health emergency and created a task force to deal with the Chinese Virus.
Media: Get over it, everyone. The flu is is deadlier than the safe Wuhan virus!

A couple weeks later he restricted travel from Iran.
Democrats: RACIST! XENOPHOBIC! UNNCESSARY!!!

Then he restricted travel from from South Korea.
Democrats: RACIST! XENOPHOBIC! UNNCESSARY!!!

Then he restricted travel from Europe.
Democrats UNNECESSARY! You're punishing our allies!!

Fuck just a week ago Biden was saying all of these travel restrictions were unnecessary, imagine if that walking Alzheimer's ad were president during all of this?

Then when the cases started to uptick in the US in MARCH (mostly just in 3 far left states), after Trump had done all of this in JANUARY and FEBRUARY:
Democrats and media: OMG! Why didn't Trump do something sooner! Oh yeah and don't call it the Chinese Virus or the Wuhan Virus, that's racist!!! Even though we all called it the Wuhan virus first!!!

Fuck you and your new Chinese boyfriends, Seran.

Oh yeah, that's not even all Trump did in January and February, just the ones I remember off the top of my head.

What an idiot. The President failed to institute an aggressive viral response and in doing so allowed a citizen who visited Wuhan China to bring the contagion to our shores. Trump new weeks ahead of his 1/31 limited travel restrictions and yet in only restricting foreigners from China, exposed his country. Again your attempts at deflection are pitiful.

[Seran]

Great job on the part of the Coservashits for attempting to alienate the country where the majority of medical supplies are produced. Great leadership obviously comes from blaming others and alienating critical suppliers.

[Tgo01]

What an idiot. The President failed to institute an aggressive viral response and in doing so allowed a citizen who visited Wuhan China to bring the contagion to our shores. Trump new weeks ahead of his 1/31 limited travel restrictions and yet in only restricting foreigners from China, exposed his country. Again your attempts at deflection are pitiful.

Trump "allowed" that to happen? You mean CHINA allowed that to happen by keeping this a secret from their own citizens for over a month, then kept it a secret from the world for a month after that.

Keep on sucking that Chinese dick, you fucking traitor.

[Tgo01]

Great job on the part of the Coservashits for attempting to alienate the country where the majority of medical supplies are produced. Great leadership obviously comes from blaming others and alienating critical suppliers.

Look at this fuck now actually outright defending Communist China. You really are a disgraceful human being.

In case you forgot, fucknugget, Trump has been the one warning us for years now to move our supply chains out of China, but now it's Trump's fault for that too I suppose huh? Fuck you, you are just the worst kind of person, you rank right up with Mr "Let them all die cause I don't like their politics!" Keller.

[Gelston]

Great job on the part of the Coservashits for attempting to alienate the country where the majority of medical supplies are produced. Great leadership obviously comes from blaming others and alienating critical suppliers.

Perhaps we should start producing them here. Great job sucking off China though.

[Tgo01]

2016 Democrats: Foreign interference in our country is BAD!
2020 Democrats: I can't stop sucking Chinese dick! Give me more Chinese dicks to suck!!!

[Stolis]

What an idiot. The President failed to institute an aggressive viral response and in doing so allowed a citizen who visited Wuhan China to bring the contagion to our shores. Trump new weeks ahead of his 1/31 limited travel restrictions and yet in only restricting foreigners from China, exposed his country. Again your attempts at deflection are pitiful.

World Health Organization: "Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear of evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in Wuhan, China" - January 14th, 2020

Feb 8th, 2020 - China shuns offers from WHO and CDC to help with Coronavirus - Despite rising numbers in both coronavirus infections and fatalities, China has refused offers of assistance from two of the world's more foremost agencies on infectious diseases, according to the New York Times.

[Parkbandit]

Fuck you, you are just the worst kind of person, you rank right up with Mr "Let them all die cause I don't like their politics!" Keller.

At least Seran isn't creeping on the family member social media that he disagrees with politically.

Keller is a special kind of worst person... and you shouldn't diminish that fact by grouping other people with him.

Hell, not even Androidpk is Keller kind of piece of shit bad.

[Parkbandit]

Great job on the part of the Coservashits for attempting to alienate the country where the majority of medical supplies are produced. Great leadership obviously comes from blaming others and alienating critical suppliers.

Wait.. you don't believe China holds any responsibility at all for the worlds pandemic?

Dude.. stop. We get it, you don't like Trump.. but to believe that requires the greatest amount of stupidity known.. and you aren't Backlash.

[Neveragain]

Democrats: quarantine = concentration camps!

Also Democrats: Why didn't the Orange man quarantine people?

https://www.ruthlessreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/retarded-superman_big.jpg

[Solkern]

Hey all, just letting you know that you need to take this situation seriously. I was stuck in China for two months from January 11th to March 2nd due to this virus,. I finally managed to get out, and now currently stuck in Milan. Please be safe, be smart.

[BriarFox]

Hey all, just letting you know that you need to take this situation seriously. I was stuck in China for two months from January 11th to March 2nd due to this virus,. I finally managed to get out, and now currently stuck in Milan. Please be safe, be smart.

Jesus, man. Sorry to hear! Stay safe, and hope you get home soon. Have you tried contacting the US Consulate?

[Archigeek]

Well that's as far as I got before I could declare this guy full of shit and had to stop reading.

Just another mouthpiece of the Democratic and Chinese propaganda machine.

Actually he's one of the most well respected epidemiologists on the planet. He literally wrote the book warning everyone that this is coming. But since he's critical of the president, you will ignore his advice and slander him.

There's little question that a massive testing and tracking effort was the right approach from the get go, hell it's the normal approach for epidemics, but we went with the "don't worry, it'll be fine" approach.

If we aren't willing to learn from those who actually know about this shit, we're fucked.

[Archigeek]

Hey all, just letting you know that you need to take this situation seriously. I was stuck in China for two months from January 11th to March 2nd due to this virus,. I finally managed to get out, and now currently stuck in Milan. Please be safe, be smart.

So you were finally able to get out of China and while at the airport you said to yourself, "Milan sounds nice this time of year?"

Sorry you're stuck man.

[Archigeek]

Hindsight is 20/20 isn't it? I think for what was known and expected he did just as much as you could expect him to do. You can ALWAYS poke holes in people's response after the events.

It is, for sure. Except this guy wrote a book predicting this would happen. It's just unfortunate we weren't able to follow the Taiwanese or the South Koreans' approach.

[Tgo01]

Actually he's one of the most well respected epidemiologists on the planet.

And now he's a mouthpiece for the Democratic and Chinese propaganda machine. He proved it with that part I quoted.

[Tgo01]

It's just unfortunate we weren't able to follow the Taiwanese or the South Koreans' approach.

No way we could have followed the South Koreans' approach, you really have to stop repeating this already.

South Korea was literally tracking people they thought might be infected and the people who were infected, using GPS location from their cell phones and credit card purchases and making this information available online to the general public so they knew who to stay away from.

You really think shit like that was going to happen in the US? I can think of a few conflicts with the constitution and at least 2 laws being broken just off the top of my head.

[Risen]

going by the WHO's definition of mortality rate you just take the number of confirmed deaths and divide it by the number of confirmed cases.

We don't like the WHO. Why use a poor metric from a politically unreliable source? The better metric while the pandemic is live is 'deaths / recovered or discharged'. Using 'confirmed cases' while the pandemic is live is misleading. Look at China, which seems to be in the final throes of their exposure as a good source. Updating on the Princess has stopped, probably to help protect private information.

Quick stats check

Category Deaths / Closed (recover / discharge)
Overall: 14,611 / 97, 588 = 13%
China: 3,261 / 72,440 = 4.5%
Iran: 1,685 / 7,635 = 22%
France: 674 / 2,200 = 30%

source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Archigeek]

No way we could have followed the South Koreans' approach, you really have to stop repeating this already.

South Korea was literally tracking people they thought might be infected and the people who were infected, using GPS location from their cell phones and credit card purchases and making this information available online to the general public so they knew who to stay away from.

You really think shit like that was going to happen in the US? I can think of a few conflicts with the constitution and at least 2 laws being broken just off the top of my head.

They take names out of the data. It's no worse than what's done via the patriot act. Instead, we're going to spend trillions propping up the economy after watching it fall apart. South Korea has controlled it without social distancing.

But sure, if you don't like money, let's stick with limited testing. Virtually no medical professionals agree with you though.

[Tgo01]

We don't like the WHO. Why use a poor metric from a politically unreliable source?

Because that's what everyone is using as a reliable source, trying to show how silly their reliable source is.

Also I don't think deaths / recovered or discharged is a good metric either because we are still ignoring all of the people who have never been tested and will never be tested.

We need the experts to start getting some estimates going of how many people are infected, like they do with the flu and past outbreaks, but that probably won't happen until this thing runs its course worldwide.

[~Rocktar~]

Because that's what everyone is using as a reliable source, trying to show how silly their reliable source is.

Also I don't think deaths / recovered or discharged is a good metric either because we are still ignoring all of the people who have never been tested and will never be tested.

We need the experts to start getting some estimates going of how many people are infected, like they do with the flu and past outbreaks, but that probably won't happen until this thing runs its course worldwide.

China flat out lying about how many infections and deaths they have had doesn't help. They supposedly stopped reporting new "mild" cases. The same with Iran and so on. We won't know because they lied, continue to lie and will not stop lying. But hey, it's "racist" to call the thing a Chinese disease.

[Tgo01]

They take names out of the data.

You think that would have made a difference here in the US? Laws and the constitution don't just suddenly not exist just because of a virus outbreak.

Also the US now has the capacity to test more people than any other country in the world, so you can knock it off with that talking point too.

Everyone seems to love the constitution and our privacy laws until something like this happens, then suddenly it's like "Why didn't the government just violate the constitution and our privacy laws?"

[Archigeek]

Also the US now has the capacity to test more people than any other country in the world, so you can knock it off with that talking point too.

If only we'd had them as quickly as other countries. We've been 2 weeks behind the curve from the get go, and it's going to cost us trillions of dollars. Glad to hear we are catching up.

[Tgo01]

If only we'd had them as quickly as other countries.

True, if only the CDC had spent more time preparing for something such as this instead of wasting time trying to be woke and researching dumb shit like racism and fat shaming and gun control.

But let's blame Trump!

[Archigeek]

True, if only the CDC had spent more time preparing for something such as this instead of wasting time trying to be woke and researching dumb shit like racism and fat shaming and gun control.

But let's blame Trump!

That's really your best excuse for not having tests as fast as other countries were able to do it? And here I thought you thought the US was #1! We were the race horse that was sitting in the gate still, when the rest of the horses were at the first turn. It all comes back to a leader who didn't want to believe there was a problem.

[Tgo01]

That's really your best excuse for not having tests as fast as other countries were able to do it? And here I thought you thought the US was #1! We were the race horse that was sitting in the gate still, when the rest of the horses were at the first turn. It all comes back to a leader who didn't want to believe there was a problem.

You still haven't given me your theory as to why this is Trump's fault. Did he do all of this, shut down travel before other countries thought about it, shut down large sections of the economy, is talking about a 2+ trillion dollar government bailout for workers and businesses, but then along the way said "LOL! Be sure to have a slow rollout of testing kits! LOL!!"

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

That's really your best excuse for not having tests as fast as other countries were able to do it? And here I thought you thought the US was #1! We were the race horse that was sitting in the gate still, when the rest of the horses were at the first turn. It all comes back to a leader who didn't want to believe there was a problem.

I'd rather be here than any other shithole in the world. You subscribe so easily to international press that we are behind somehow, that because we have some suntanned asshole as president we are behind things somehow... I don't. I've lived in Japan, Germany, Panama... worked extensively in India, Philippines. I guarantee they are scrambling to react.

You, Arch, should give it to Trump he was right to close the borders/shut down travel. You, TGO, should acknowledge Trump didn't react enough. You can both be right... and its REALLY easy playing Monday morning quarterback in any case.

I personally think Trump did what he could. I personally think the dems have gone full blown crazy trying to jam through their agenda's rather than actually being bipartisan. I personally think the markets have overreacted. But hey, I'm just the average american sheltering at home.

[Tgo01]

You, TGO, should acknowledge Trump didn't react enough.

[QUOTE=Suppa Hobbit Mage;2142580]I personally think Trump did what he could.

That's what I'm saying too. I think Trump was relying on information that WHO received from China and as things started to go to shit fast and the WHO finally pulled their heads out of their ass then it was kind of late by then. But even with listening to WHO Trump was still proactive in shutting down travel from China, Iran, South Korea, and then Europe.

Like I said before if the US learns any lesson from this I hope it's to no longer rely on information from the WHO whose leader was literally hand picked by China. But something tells me we won't.

[Seran]

Trump "allowed" that to happen? You mean CHINA allowed that to happen by keeping this a secret from their own citizens for over a month, then kept it a secret from the world for a month after that.

Keep on sucking that Chinese dick, you fucking traitor.

Last time I checked, the Premier of China wasn't our Commander and Chief, nor were they responsible for our airline security procedures. It's rather convenient that all of you stupid Hannity chode suckers are regurgitating the line that China is at fault for everything. They're responsible for their country, Trump is responsible for ours.

[Tgo01]

Last time I checked, the Premier of China wasn't our Commander and Chief, nor were they responsible for our airline security procedures.

You're dumb.

You are literally spreading Chinese propaganda talking points then wonder why I say you are sucking Chinese dick.

China: Kept this a secret from their own people for about a month.
China: Then kept it a secret from the world for a month after that (for those counting that's 2 months)
China: China then lied about how bad this virus was for weeks (for those counting we are talking close to 3 months now.)
Seran: (takes Chinese dick out of mouth) Trump let this spread!!! (shoves two Chinese dick in his mouth)

[Seran]

Witch hunt has now become Chinese Propagandist, I wonder what the next set of lies will become the Conservashit rallying cry

[Archigeek]

I'd rather be here than any other shithole in the world. You subscribe so easily to international press that we are behind somehow, that because we have some suntanned asshole as president we are behind things somehow... I don't. I've lived in Japan, Germany, Panama... worked extensively in India, Philippines. I guarantee they are scrambling to react.

You, Arch, should give it to Trump he was right to close the borders/shut down travel. You, TGO, should acknowledge Trump didn't react enough. You can both be right... and its REALLY easy playing Monday morning quarterback in any case.

I personally think Trump did what he could. I personally think the dems have gone full blown crazy trying to jam through their agenda's rather than actually being bipartisan. I personally think the markets have overreacted. But hey, I'm just the average american sheltering at home.

How many international press examples have I given? And if I had, what would be wrong with looking beyond our borders for solutions? And I've never complained about shutting down travel to stop this. Tgo likes to paint with a broad brush: if I disagree, I must be a Chinese propogandist! That's bullshit and you know it, and so does he, but it's easier than making an actual arguement.

What I do know, is that other countries handled this better than we did, that evindence is plain as day. Does that mean I don't love my country? Of course not. We could have done better, and we still can do better.

[RichardCranium]

Senate Democrats blocked the stimulus bill.

[Tgo01]

Senate Democrats blocked the stimulus bill.

Because Trump and the Republicans have been seen as leading the US through this crisis while the Democrats have been shitting their pants like scared babies.

It's no coincidence that the Senate Democrats blocked the Republican stimulus bill on the same day that Pelosi announced House Democrats are crafting their own bill. The last thing Democrats want now is to give Republicans a "win" so they want to make sure their plan is the one that succeeds.

In other words the Democratic party is showing once again they are nothing but terrorists who are willing to let innocent Americans suffer as long as it means they gain more power, then they will have their little Chinese propaganda spreading apologists such as Seran praise them for being great leaders in this trying time.

[Tgo01]

This is why the news is fake news and the US would be a million times better off if the US news disappeared tomorrow. (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/03/22/cuomo-hopeful-about-malaria-drug-touted-by-trump-as-possible-treatment-for-the-coronavirus-n2565459)

Trump announced he is excited that people are now able to take a malaria drug that might treat the Chinese virus.
Fat piece of shit Brian Stelter who works for CNN: Trump is providing false hope! IMPEACH!

Democratic governor of NY says almost the exact same thing Trump announced.
Fat piece of shit Brian Stelter: This shows leadership and provides hope but not false hope.

Keep in mind these two statements by fat fuck Stelter where literally 2 days apart.

If you watch CNN and take anything said seriously then you're dumb, there is no other way to put it.

[Parkbandit]

Actually he's one of the most well respected epidemiologists on the planet. He literally wrote the book warning everyone that this is coming. But since he's critical of the president, you will ignore his advice and slander him.

There's little question that a massive testing and tracking effort was the right approach from the get go, hell it's the normal approach for epidemics, but we went with the "don't worry, it'll be fine" approach.

If we aren't willing to learn from those who actually know about this shit, we're fucked.

And that's the thing.. you are willing to listen to anyone who is as anti-Trump as you are... and unwilling to listen to anyone who doesn't share your views.

It's a 2 way street.

[Parkbandit]

Senate Democrats blocked the stimulus bill.

They couldn't push the $15 min wage into law.. or the student loan forgiveness into law..

They could only help regular Americans and small businesses.. and they said "No thanks"

[Tgo01]

Stock futures are down 5%, the lowest they are allowed to fall before switches kick in to cease more trading.

This is another thing the Democrats want, they don't think the economy or stock market has suffered enough yet, gotta give it another week or two before propping up, you know, to really fuck up Trump's chances of being reelected.

Why do you people still vote Democrat? This really boggles my mind. A political party that doesn't give a single shit if you live or die, if you have money to pay your rent or not, if your business fails or not. They want power and they will step over your diseased corpse to get it.

The only "logical" answer is abortion "rights." Just how fucking important is abortions for you people?

[Risen]

I'm struggling to keep up. Just because I might disagree with something posted by you, Tgo, I'd be labeled a Trump-hater?

Don't get me wrong; I'll clarify my position. Trump is not a presidential president. Trump has managed to get an amazing amount of shit moving. Trump has brought a more business-thrive mentality to the White House. Trump does not lead with clear vision and crystal intent. Trump is always looking for someone to push out with a blame statement. Trump is divisive, at times necessarily, and at times causing chaos. Trump does the typical CEO thing of not sharing, and does a poor job of delegating effectively. I also wonder if Trump really set his own team at the outset - or if it was the party recommendations that started the raft of revolving-door syndrome we experienced.

I'm not a Trump-hater at all. But Trump sure as hell could have done more and done it better. That exact same statement is true at every level of leadership, without regard to party, in our government. No one shined. Instead, every time I turn around, I have to listen to bickering (much of it repeated here) that simply leads us nowhere.

That's my quandary. Trump's done pretty well, in many cases. The democratic pool of nominees to contend with him are not inspiring. But Trump is far from an ideal president. I expect more. Trump-hater? Hardly. Trump-realist.

[Tgo01]

I'm struggling to keep up. Just because I might disagree with something posted by you, Tgo, I'd be labeled a Trump-hater?

I don't think I've called you Trump hater.

[Risen]

No, I don't think so either. But I find myself agreeing with a significant amount of Archigeek's points. Not all, but a good amount. Like I said, just struggling to keep up around all the China Fellatio and Propogandist Tag assertions. I don't want to be labeled a Trump-hater, neither!

[Seran]

Wonder how soon mainstream news will pick up on the cumulative 10% cuts Trump has made in the CDC.

[Tgo01]

No, I don't think so either. But I find myself agreeing with a significant amount of Archigeek's points. Not all, but a good amount. Like I said, just struggling to keep up around all the China Fellatio and Propogandist Tag assertions. I don't want to be labeled a Trump-hater, neither!

Seran is the one spreading literal Chinese propaganda, so if you agree with the insane shit he is saying then you just might be a Trump hater too.

Archigeek is merely wrong to varying degrees.

[Tgo01]

Wonder how soon mainstream news will pick up on the cumulative 10% cuts Trump has made in the CDC.

See what I mean? More Chinese propaganda.

Real life picture of Seran:

https://i.imgur.com/fBjPZpR.jpg

[Astray]

Is he sponsored by Activision Blizzard?

[Tgo01]

Is he sponsored by Activision Blizzard?

He is. Blizzard likes them some Chinese semen too.

[Ashlander]

Is he sponsored by Activision Blizzard?

They supply the chinese semen.

[~Rocktar~]

More for Archgeek to complain about.


https://youtu.be/6rVD4p4CY0A

[Seran]

Trump released his fiscal year 2020 federal budget proposal in March, recommending huge cuts across the federal government, including a 12 percent cut to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and a 10 percent cut for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

At CDC, a reduction of that magnitude equates to a $750 million spending cut over fiscal year 2019. APHA member John Auerbach, MBA, president and CEO of Trust for America’s Health, said the proposed CDC cuts not only threaten federal public health capacity, they would have a “devastating” impact on state and local public health departments, which depend heavily on CDC dollars flowing down to the community level

http://thenationshealth.aphapublications.org/content/49/3/1.2

Tg supports our own Manchurian Candidate, Donald Trump

[Seran]

As if proposing CDC budget cuts this year, our maniac and chief proposed a further 14% budget cut to the CDC this year, even after news of the coronavirus spread was on every news channel.

Really what is it going to take for filthy Conservashits like Tg to realize his False Messiah Donald Trump is a nutjob

[Tgo01]

Wonder how soon mainstream news will pick up on the cumulative 10% cuts Trump has made in the CDC.


http://thenationshealth.aphapublications.org/content/49/3/1.2

Tg supports our own Manchurian Candidate, Donald Trump


As if proposing CDC budget cuts this year, our maniac and chief proposed a further 14% budget cut to the CDC this year, even after news of the coronavirus spread was on every news channel.

Really what is it going to take for filthy Conservashits like Tg to realize his False Messiah Donald Trump is a nutjob

See what a piece of shit Chinese-propaganda-spreading asshole Seran is?

He goes from "Trump cut the CDC's budget!!!!" to "Trump proposed cutting the CDC's budget!!!" without skipping a beat. He thinks you're too dumb to notice this sleight of hand of his because this is the tactic he has learned from years of indoctrination from watching and reading fake news. He wants you to read this conversation and say "Oh shit! Seran just owned Tgo01 with sources!" But he didn't. Here is exactly how the conversation went:

Chinese dick sucker Seran: Trump cut the CDC's budget!
Tgo01: No he didn't. Stop spreading Chinese propaganda, you Chinese propagandist dick sucker.
Chinese dick sucker Seran: Right here it says he proposed cutting the CDC's budget, you're wrong, Tgo01!

Fuck off, you worthless shit stain.

[Solkern]

Jesus, man. Sorry to hear! Stay safe, and hope you get home soon. Have you tried contacting the US Consulate?

Thanks man. That’s how I was able to get out of China, through some friends in the embassy, now I’m just stuck here, and it’s not a pretty sight outside.

[Solkern]

So you were finally able to get out of China and while at the airport you said to yourself, "Milan sounds nice this time of year?"

Sorry you're stuck man.


Pretty much, my friend lives here and he’s been pestering me to visit for a while, after the shit show in China, I said why not. And literally right after I get there shit hits the fan.. and now I’m stuck here. Just want my own fucking bed

[Tgo01]

Pretty much, my friend lives here and he’s been pestering me to visit for a while, after the shit show in China, I said why not. And literally right after I get there shit hits the fan.. and now I’m stuck here. Just want my own fucking bed

Are things worse in China and Russia than they are letting on?

[Solkern]

Are things worse in China and Russia than they are letting on?

I was in Guangzhou, and the city was a ghost town, right before Chinese New Year and a week or two after that. The cancelling of the Chinese New Years festivals... that was bullshit... it was in full swing. Other than that. It’s extremely bad, what you are hearing it’s all bullshit.
Hospitals in Guangzhou are still getting covid19 cases. My friend is a doctor. She’s dealing with new patients right now. The Chinese honestly have no idea what they are doing. The wet markets, they supposedly banned... are still open and people are still going there. I tried to get to Hong Kong to get out... failed....there were literally thousands and thousands of people at the Shenzhen/Hong Kong border. Riot police were there pushing and beating people.

In regards to Russia, I did a quarantine there when I finally got back. Spent a week or so in a military hospital with about 300 other people, with the majority testing positive for covid19. Moscow is in full lock down, I went to a smaller city, Volgograd before I headed to Italy.. and people there don’t even care. Lots of misinformation and downplaying of information in Russia and China

[Solkern]

https://i.imgur.com/RZF6WtZ.png how dumb the Chinese are

https://i.imgur.com/jBESW7m.jpg my empty flight out of China.

https://i.imgur.com/gMkC0Rv.jpg airplane getting checked heading to Russia

https://i.imgur.com/O2wccQ2.jpg checking people are SVO airport. They are literally throwing any chinese in a locked box. Russians can just go through, only checking non-Russian citizens lol

[Tgo01]

I was in Guangzhou, and the city was a ghost town, right before Chinese New Year and a week or two after that. The cancelling of the Chinese New Years festivals... that was bullshit... it was in full swing. Other than that. It’s extremely bad, what you are hearing it’s all bullshit.
Hospitals in Guangzhou are still getting covid19 cases. My friend is a doctor. She’s dealing with new patients right now. The Chinese honestly have no idea what they are doing. The wet markets, they supposedly banned... are still open and people are still going there. I tried to get to Hong Kong to get out... failed....there were literally thousands and thousands of people at the Shenzhen/Hong Kong border. Riot police were there pushing and beating people.

In regards to Russia, I did a quarantine there when I finally got back. Spent a week or so in a military hospital with about 300 other people, with the majority testing positive for covid19. Moscow is in full lock down, I went to a smaller city, Volgograd before I headed to Italy.. and people there don’t even care. Lots of misinformation and downplaying of information in Russia and China

None of that sounds fun in the slightest bit. Hope you get home soon.

[Solkern]

None of that sounds fun in the slightest bit. Hope you get home soon.

Thanks man, I’m trying... contacted every friend I know in the embassy... the situation in Italy is so bad, they can’t help me get out.. just stuck here..

So yeah, just take this virus seriously. I’m reading the news of people in Miami still partying it up.. this shit isn’t a joke.

I’ve been in two epic centers now... yay go me! People are literally dying left and right from this shit.

[Tgo01]

So yeah, just take this virus seriously. I’m reading the news of people in Miami still partying it up.. this shit isn’t a joke.

Other than work I have only left the house once in the past week, and that was just to get more groceries. And I'm not even close to an area that has been hit hard yet, at least not that we know of anyways.

People still going to beaches, playing basketball, going golfing, like come on, people, can't you stop that shit for at least 2 weeks like the president and governors have asked?

[Solkern]

Other than work I have only left the house once in the past week, and that was just to get more groceries. And I'm not even close to an area that has been hit hard yet, at least not that we know of anyways.

People still going to beaches, playing basketball, going golfing, like come on, people, can't you stop that shit for at least 2 weeks like the president and governors have asked?


Sorry, that wasn’t directly solely at you. Sure you didn’t take it that way, but wanted to just make it clear.

You hit the nail on the head though, you may not think your area is hit hard, but people can be carrying it and not even know. That’s literally what happened in Italy, that’s why it got so bad.

Concur, just stay the home for two weeks, go out when you need to, that’s it. Do it for yourself and other people.

[Tgo01]

Sorry, that wasn’t directly solely at you.

I know, just wanted to again brag about how much fun I am having isolating myself from the outside world.

[Solkern]

I know, just wanted to again brag about how much fun I am having isolating myself from the outside world.

Haha, try not to have too much fun!

[ClydeR]

This might possibly be fake. But it's still a good idea..



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETunQn_WoAAUSGW?format=jpg&name=small

[Seran]

Actually the tense is absolutely correct. Trump DID cut the CDC budget last year and Trump HAS proposed another cit for this year.

Truly the only sleight of hand is Tg trying to lead all the other lemmings over the cliff with their lies.

https://www.cdc.gov › budgetPDF
CDC FY 20 Budget Overview Factsheet - Centers for Disease Control

[Parkbandit]

I was in Guangzhou, and the city was a ghost town, right before Chinese New Year and a week or two after that. The cancelling of the Chinese New Years festivals... that was bullshit... it was in full swing. Other than that. It’s extremely bad, what you are hearing it’s all bullshit.
Hospitals in Guangzhou are still getting covid19 cases. My friend is a doctor. She’s dealing with new patients right now. The Chinese honestly have no idea what they are doing. The wet markets, they supposedly banned... are still open and people are still going there. I tried to get to Hong Kong to get out... failed....there were literally thousands and thousands of people at the Shenzhen/Hong Kong border. Riot police were there pushing and beating people.

In regards to Russia, I did a quarantine there when I finally got back. Spent a week or so in a military hospital with about 300 other people, with the majority testing positive for covid19. Moscow is in full lock down, I went to a smaller city, Volgograd before I headed to Italy.. and people there don’t even care. Lots of misinformation and downplaying of information in Russia and China

It's like you are trying to go to the countries hardest hit by covid19.... China, then Italy? Why not make a pit stop in Iran?

[ClydeR]

Remember "death panels"? They're coming back. Bigly. And more real than ever.

Whether official or not, shortages of equipment will require doctors in the United States to leave some patients untreated, ensuring their death.





https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETw-kBlU4AIYaF7?format=png&name=small


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBPH9lgosBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBPH9lgosBQ

[Gelston]

Remember "death panels"? They're coming back. Bigly. And more real than ever.

Whether official or not, shortages of equipment will require doctors in the United States to leave some patients untreated, ensuring their death.





https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETw-kBlU4AIYaF7?format=png&name=small


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBPH9lgosBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBPH9lgosBQ

remember shutting the fuck up?

[Methais]

Great job on the part of the Coservashits for attempting to alienate the country where the majority of medical supplies are produced. Great leadership obviously comes from blaming others and alienating critical suppliers.

TDS is a powerful drug.

You're also a huge retard.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

My wife just got furloughed for 4 weeks. They are going to pay about 75% of what she'd normally make were she to come in, so it's pretty nice, for being furloughed.

[Tisket]

So has anyone here been tested for the virus yet? If so, negative or positive?

[Gelston]

So has anyone here been tested for the virus yet? If so, negative or positive?

My Parish has it all over the fucking place. I was actually in NO when the cops shut down Bourbon Street. It was tits. I know a couple people with it though, they are quarantined at home. They said the test was awkward.

[Tgo01]

Democrats voted against the American family relief bill yet AGAIN.

It's not even the final vote, it's merely a vote to get to the debate stage of the bill, but Democrats don't even want to get that far. It will probably be 2-3+ days before the final bill is voted on once the Senate gets passed this hurdle but Democrats don't even want to do this much for the American worker and family.

It's been a fun experiment letting the Democratic party pretend they are a real political party in the US, but it's time we ended this experiment.

[Tgo01]

If you lost your job or are going to lose your job and could really use some help during this crisis, just keep in mind that Democrats shot down the bill that would have provided relief to workers and businesses in part for the following two reasons:

They wanted tax credits for more wind and solar energy production.
They wanted new standards for airlines emissions.

Yes that's right, Democrats are literally holding American families hostage until they get parts of their Green New Deal bullshit rammed through Congress.

[ClydeR]

My Parish has it all over the fucking place. I was actually in NO when the cops shut down Bourbon Street. It was tits. I know a couple people with it though, they are quarantined at home. They said the test was awkward.



True, about Louisiana having a lot of cases.

https://i.imgur.com/2QoCjws.png
http://ldh.la.gov/Coronavirus/

A lot of states have websites, like the above site from Louisiana, showing local statistics. If you go to the CDC site at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html you can click on your state in the map to get to your state website.

[Methais]

Last time I checked, the Premier of China wasn't our Commander and Chief

If/when you're done being a butthurt tard, try understanding that the President is the Commander-in-chief and not Commander-and-chief.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/rV9qKFPPhCS561JNRz07iBse1XGn4_jG3aMiGfHCbHlpvZfb_e FJyVnKjtevki3trClAFA082tcvanrEKl6wb9Rg7yJCZTHHE3KG dNoDD6y4HaY7jL_Wo0sC_DKqlVaf9a3el6vmRiIb7NPPx2Lsr_ VMDpcGMpUMIHLN0g

[Tgo01]

If you lost your job or are going to lose your job and could really use some help during this crisis, just keep in mind that Democrats shot down the bill that would have provided relief to workers and businesses in part for the following two reasons:

They wanted tax credits for more wind and solar energy production.
They wanted new standards for airlines emissions.

Yes that's right, Democrats are literally holding American families hostage until they get parts of their Green New Deal bullshit rammed through Congress.

The Democrats' demands are even more absurd than that. It's like they are using this crisis to get EVERYTHING on their wish list, well everything but slavery reparations, I'm sure that's in the next set of demands.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/03/23/here-are-the-details-of-nancy-pelosis-leftist-wish-list-and-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-wuhan-coronavirus-n2565543

-Publication of corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards

-A bail out on all current debt at the Postal Service

-Required early voting

-Required same day voter registration

-Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

-Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

-Publication and reporting of greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

-Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

-Federal $15 minimum wage

-Permanent paid leave

[Methais]

Sorry, that wasn’t directly solely at you. Sure you didn’t take it that way, but wanted to just make it clear.

You hit the nail on the head though, you may not think your area is hit hard, but people can be carrying it and not even know. That’s literally what happened in Italy, that’s why it got so bad.

Concur, just stay the home for two weeks, go out when you need to, that’s it. Do it for yourself and other people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa4i9Ap6dCg

That blonde chick at around 0:51 is everything that's wrong with everything and her voice makes me want to construct a Death Star. Her and Scumbag Steve 2.0 at the very beginning. The rest of them are stupid too, but those two just seem extremely punchable.

"...blah blah blah before everything cloSEHHHHHHHHS!!!" with her Great Value Fran Drescher voice.

There's good news though -- Now these idiots are getting sick.

That's what you get, stupid fucks. Hopefully they don't infect anyone that doesn't deserve it, unlike them, as they do deserve it.

Florida college students test positive for coronavirus after spring break trip (https://www.foxnews.com/health/florida-college-students-test-positive-for-coronavirus-after-spring-break-trip)

[Methais]

This might possibly be fake. But it's still a good idea..



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETunQn_WoAAUSGW?format=jpg&name=small

Shut the fuck up Fallen and go drink from another dick.

[Seran]

The Democrats' demands are even more absurd than that. It's like they are using this crisis to get EVERYTHING on their wish list, well everything but slavery reparations, I'm sure that's in the next set of demands.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/03/23/here-are-the-details-of-nancy-pelosis-leftist-wish-list-and-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-wuhan-coronavirus-n2565543

-Publication of corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards

-A bail out on all current debt at the Postal Service

-Required early voting

-Required same day voter registration

-Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

-Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

-Publication and reporting of greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

-Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

-Federal $15 minimum wage

-Permanent paid leave

Utter bullshit, that's not been drafted into any bill or proposal. You and your conservative free press organization are starting your own fake news orgy.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Utter bullshit, that's not been drafted into any bill or proposal. You and your conservative free press organization are starting your own fake news orgy.

Ok then, explain why they haven't voted for the bill. I'm curious what Mother Jones is saying.

[Tgo01]

Utter bullshit, that's not been drafted into any bill or proposal. You and your conservative free press organization are starting your own fake news orgy.

The guy who gets his talking points directly by sucking them out of a Chinese man's dick is here to tell us all that Democrats aren't the ones withholding aid from innocent American families because they want to push their far left terrorist agenda.

[Tgo01]

Ok then, explain why they haven't voted for the bill. I'm curious what Mother Jones is saying.

They will mention "slush fund" and "big corporate giveaways" probably about two dozen times. For once though that won't be the talking points from the Chines government, it's talking points directly from Hillary Clinton and the rest of the Democratic establishment.

[Tgo01]

Utter bullshit, that's not been drafted into any bill or proposal.

Also are you so angry right now because you would agree that if the Democrats are withholding aid for these reasons then they are wrong and a bunch of shitheads so you're angry because I'm "falsely" accusing them of being a bunch of shitheads? Or is this where you hedge your bets by just calling me names and if it turns out that I am 100% correct you will then fall back on "Well they should push for those things!"

You're such a fucking coward it's pathetic. Take a stand for once in your pitiful and pathetic life.

[Seran]

Ok then, explain why they haven't voted for the bill. I'm curious what Mother Jones is saying.

Because Democrats don't want another 2008 bailout that provided golden parachutes for the investment markets who created their garbage funds and over leveraged.

Democratic leadership wants guarantees that funds will be used to keep businesses open and be used to retain employee's and pay benefits. Even the President has signed off on employee's being the focus. Our retail economy isn't going to be propped up by fund mangers and CEOs getting massive bonuses from stock buybacks and debt reduction, it's going to be by the 90% of workers who spend the majority of the earnings on living expenses, necessities and yes even luxury goods. This is what Democratic leadership has demanded to be included in the bill. Try as he might McConnel isn't going to shame Democrats into selling out the general populace into ending debate so a simple Republican majority can bail out it's big donors.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Because Democrats don't want another 2008 bailout that provided golden parachutes for the investment markets who created their garbage funds and over leveraged.

Democratic leadership wants guarantees that funds will be used to keep businesses open and be used to retain employee's and pay benefits. Even the President has signed off on employee's being the focus. Our retail economy isn't going to be propped up by fund mangers and CEOs getting massive bonuses from stock buybacks and debt reduction, it's going to be by the 90% of workers who spend the majority of the earnings on living expenses, necessities and yes even luxury goods. This is what Democratic leadership has demanded to be included in the bill. Try as he might McConnel isn't going to shame Democrats into selling out the general populace into ending debate so a simple Republican majority can bail out it's big donors.

Please direct me to the document you are referencing that says those things? I didn't think we'd even begun discussing the bill (because the vote to discuss it hasn't passed).

[Stolis]

Please direct me to the document you are referencing that says those things? I didn't think we'd even begun discussing the bill (because the vote to discuss it hasn't passed).

If you look at the crayon and napkin in front of him, you'll see exactly what he's talking about.

[Parkbandit]

Ok then, explain why they haven't voted for the bill. I'm curious what Mother Jones is saying.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/uADre9SxIVIrynKBTX/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Because Democrats don't want another 2008 bailout that provided golden parachutes for the investment markets who created their garbage funds and over leveraged.

They probably want the "Stimulus" bill they passed later on that gave all their pet projects millions of dollars and did nothing to really stimulate the economy.


Democratic leadership wants guarantees that funds will be used to keep businesses open and be used to retain employee's and pay benefits. Even the President has signed off on employee's being the focus. Our retail economy isn't going to be propped up by fund mangers and CEOs getting massive bonuses from stock buybacks and debt reduction, it's going to be by the 90% of workers who spend the majority of the earnings on living expenses, necessities and yes even luxury goods. This is what Democratic leadership has demanded to be included in the bill. Try as he might McConnel isn't going to shame Democrats into selling out the general populace into ending debate so a simple Republican majority can bail out it's big donors.

So, all those items that tgo01 posted aren't being included? Because I think we both agree that the list of demands aren't in the best interest of regular employees.. right?

[Astray]

If you look at the crayon and napkin in front of him, you'll see exactly what he's talking about.

Ah shit, he's not allowed to have crayons. He keeps shoving them up his nose and telling us about the "brain tickles" he gives himself.

[Parkbandit]

"Tax credits for solar energy and wind energy. Provisions to force employers to give special new treatment to Big Labor. And listen to this — new emissions standards for the airlines. Are you kidding me?" McConnell said.

So, Seran.. is McConnell lying? Did the Democrats not ask for these things as part of their negotiations?

[Tgo01]

"Tax credits for solar energy and wind energy. Provisions to force employers to give special new treatment to Big Labor. And listen to this — new emissions standards for the airlines. Are you kidding me?" McConnell said.

So, Seran.. is McConnell lying? Did the Democrats not ask for these things as part of their negotiations?


Also are you so angry right now because you would agree that if the Democrats are withholding aid for these reasons then they are wrong and a bunch of shitheads so you're angry because I'm "falsely" accusing them of being a bunch of shitheads? Or is this where you hedge your bets by just calling me names and if it turns out that I am 100% correct you will then fall back on "Well they should push for those things!"

You're such a fucking coward it's pathetic. Take a stand for once in your pitiful and pathetic life.

Yup I called it, he won't say that IF Democrats are demanding those things then they are wrong and are assholes who are putting their own special interests above the average American family because he wants to wait to see if it's true then he can turn around and say "Well they should demand those things!"

[Solkern]

It's like you are trying to go to the countries hardest hit by covid19.... China, then Italy? Why not make a pit stop in Iran?

How did you know where I was going next?! I was thinking of dropping by Spain for a little bit before Iran.

[Solkern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa4i9Ap6dCg

That blonde chick at around 0:51 is everything that's wrong with everything and her voice makes me want to construct a Death Star. Her and Scumbag Steve 2.0 at the very beginning. The rest of them are stupid too, but those two just seem extremely punchable.

"...blah blah blah before everything cloSEHHHHHHHHS!!!" with her Great Value Fran Drescher voice.

There's good news though -- Now these idiots are getting sick.

That's what you get, stupid fucks. Hopefully they don't infect anyone that doesn't deserve it, unlike them, as they do deserve it.

Florida college students test positive for coronavirus after spring break trip (https://www.foxnews.com/health/florida-college-students-test-positive-for-coronavirus-after-spring-break-trip)


Oh dear fucking god. I hope they die from it as well, I don’t want them reproducing.

[Tgo01]

Hospitals: PLEASE give us more funding so we can afford more masks to protect our staff and more ventilators to save our patients!!!
Republicans: Okay, here is a bill to do exactly that!
Democrats: Not so fast...can we please first debate about whether or not the airlines are polluting too much?

Can anyone out there give me one reason (other than abortion of course) why they would ever vote Democrat ever again?

[Tgo01]

Remember that malaria drug Trump was excited about because it could be used as a treatment for the Chinese virus? Remember how the media went into a frenzy saying Trump was giving everyone false hope and also the media tried to scare people away from taking it because 2 grams of the drug could kill someone? Because surely doctors are stupid enough to give people a lethal dosage and we need the media of all people to keep us safe?

Well there are already reports in the US of this drug helping people.

Once again the media proves saving American lives takes a backseat to getting Trump at all costs. And why not? They have pieces of shit like Seran to defend them and carry their water whenever necessary.

[Seran]

Please direct me to the document you are referencing that says those things? I didn't think we'd even begun discussing the bill (because the vote to discuss it hasn't passed).

You're calling me out for proof, which I'll happily cite. Tg is citing unnamed sources "with far left leanings" and you don't question the same? Wow dude, figured you were slightly more level headed than that.

Here's Schumer's Blitzer interview citing the Senate Democrats goals for the stimulus bill.

https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/transcript-on-cnns-situation-room-schumer-provides-update-on-coronavirus-response-legislation-negotiations-schumer-says-us-needs-marshall-plan-for-hospitals-and-any-stimulus-legislation-must-put-workers-and-people-first

Here's the House Democrats response bill

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6817441-House-Democrats-Counterproposal-For-Stimulus

[Neveragain]

NASA needs $100,000,000 for the China virus? That's just page 17

That's just page 17 out of 1119 pages.

We're just trying to get checks to people............................

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You're calling me out for proof, which I'll happily cite. Tg is citing unnamed sources "with far left leanings" and you don't question the same? Wow dude, figured you were slightly more level headed than that.

Here's Schumer's Blitzer interview citing the Senate Democrats goals for the stimulus bill.

https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/transcript-on-cnns-situation-room-schumer-provides-update-on-coronavirus-response-legislation-negotiations-schumer-says-us-needs-marshall-plan-for-hospitals-and-any-stimulus-legislation-must-put-workers-and-people-first

Here's the House Democrats response bill

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6817441-House-Democrats-Counterproposal-For-Stimulus

Ok, but where is the document?

[Neveragain]

Why not just send/distribute everyone a federal emergency debit card?

Why are these people so fucking inept?

[ClydeR]

This article has amazing charts. About a quarter of the way into the article, study the chart titled "Country by country: how coronavirus case trajectories compare." If the other countries are reporting truthful numbers, then the USA is doing worse than every other country, with no exceptions.

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Dems have jumped the shark with their "bill" for free everything. They are going to get MASSACRED in the elections this year. Really, really, really, bad politics to try and jam the green deal in while people are literally dying.

CANNOT WAIT FOR NOVEMBER AND THE WAVE OF REPUBLICANS.

[~Rocktar~]

This article has amazing charts. About a quarter of the way into the article, study the chart titled "Country by country: how coronavirus case trajectories compare." If the other countries are reporting truthful numbers, then the USA is doing worse than every other country, with no exceptions.

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

Well, we know China and Iran are lying through their teeth about everything involved so there is that.

[~Rocktar~]

Dems have jumped the shark with their "bill" for free everything. They are going to get MASSACRED in the elections this year. Really, really, really, bad politics to try and jam the green deal in while people are literally dying.

CANNOT WAIT FOR NOVEMBER AND THE WAVE OF REPUBLICANS.

This is correct.

[Seran]

Ok, but where is the document?

Reading is magic.

[Neveragain]

Dems have jumped the shark with their "bill" for free everything. They are going to get MASSACRED in the elections this year. Really, really, really, bad politics to try and jam the green deal in while people are literally dying.

CANNOT WAIT FOR NOVEMBER AND THE WAVE OF REPUBLICANS.

If the democrats wouldn't be so retarded about some some of their green new deal policies, they should have stfu and just gone along with the rep. plan. I think we all agree that when we get through this we're going to have to rebuild our entire infrastructure.

We need to tap OUR natural resources to do it and Democrats will stand in the way the entire time.

[Tgo01]

You're calling me out for proof, which I'll happily cite. Tg is citing unnamed sources "with far left leanings" and you don't question the same? Wow dude, figured you were slightly more level headed than that.

All of that Chinese dick sucking has done a number on your brain, I did link to a source you semen guzzler.

[Ashlander]

You're calling me out for proof, which I'll happily cite. Tg is citing unnamed sources "with far left leanings" and you don't question the same? Wow dude, figured you were slightly more level headed than that.

Here's Schumer's Blitzer interview citing the Senate Democrats goals for the stimulus bill.

https://www.democrats.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/transcript-on-cnns-situation-room-schumer-provides-update-on-coronavirus-response-legislation-negotiations-schumer-says-us-needs-marshall-plan-for-hospitals-and-any-stimulus-legislation-must-put-workers-and-people-first

Here's the House Democrats response bill

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6817441-House-Democrats-Counterproposal-For-Stimulus

Already found the bit in there for airline emissions. I haven't found the others but I'd bet that's because I'm not using the right terminology to pull it up on a word search.

[Tgo01]

Seran: None of what you said is true, Tgo01!!!!!

These can all be found in YOUR OWN LINK by the way.


-A bail out on all current debt at the Postal Service]

any outstanding debt of the United States 18Postal Service owed to the Treasury pursuant to sec-19tions 2005 and 2011 of title 5, United States Code, 20on the date of the enactment of this Act is hereby 21cancelled


-Required early voting

IN GENERAL.—Each State shall allow indi-5viduals to vote in an election for Federal office dur-6ing an early voting period which occurs prior to the 7date of the election, in the same manner as voting 8is allowed on such date.


-Required same day voter registration

SEC. 120006. VOTER REGISTRATION.


-Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

Each of the following Executive Orders and presi-11dential memorandum are rescinded and shall have no force 12or effect: 13(1) Executive Order 13837 (relating to the use 14of official time). 15(2) Executive Order 13836 (relating to Federal 16collective bargaining). 17(3) Executive Order 13839 (relating to the 18Merit Systems Protection Board). 19(4) The Presidential Memorandum on the Dele-20gation of Certain Authority under the Federal Serv-21ice Labor-Management Relations Statute, issued to 22the Secretary of Defense on January 29, 2020.


-Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

Sec. 704. Airline carbon emissions offsets and goals.


-Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

TITLE IV—RETIREMENT PROVISIONS

Modification of special rules for minimum funding standards for com-munity newspaper plans.

But you're such a slimy piece of shit, Seran, that I'm sure you'll just ignore all of this, or like I predicted now just say "Well those are good things to fight for right now!"

And those are just the things I could easily search through this 1000+ fucking page monstrosity of a bill, I'm sure if I read the whole damn thing I would find references to everything I already posted plus a shit ton of other unrelated Democratic special interest shit shoved into this mess.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

MASSACRED. I predict it right now. Dems gonna get so fugged up this year.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'm not voting for a single democrat this coming election. I voted for Sharice Davids before. I'm 100% voting party lines now. It's 100% clear to me how the dems have gone insane. I'm voting everyone of them out of office.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh hahahahahaha

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-biden-coronavirus-teleprompter-issues

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH hahahahahaha

This is the dem candidate? Trump is gonna eat him alive.

[Parkbandit]

How did you know where I was going next?! I was thinking of dropping by Spain for a little bit before Iran.

Yea.. your story sounds a little far fetched.

Weird flex, but you do you.

[Parkbandit]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh hahahahahaha

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-biden-coronavirus-teleprompter-issues

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH hahahahahaha

This is the dem candidate? Trump is gonna eat him alive.

And this is what you get after 6 long days of him having zero appearances.

Jesus.. they should have just dubbed in a stunt double.

[Seran]

Already found the bit in there for airline emissions. I haven't found the others but I'd bet that's because I'm not using the right terminology to pull it up on a word search.

There are a couple of Democrat wet dreams in there, for sure, but they've been trying to pass a number of them for years. When it comes to bill reconciliation, a lot of it will disappear.

[Tgo01]

or like I predicted now just say "Well those are good things to fight for right now!"

Here it comes!


There are a couple of Democrat wet dreams in there, for sure, but they've been trying to pass a number of them for years.

[Seran]

You're surprised a Democrat is eager for progress by it's party? Christ you must be easy on Christmas.

[Seran]

I'd be more surprised if you ever admitted your wrong, like that made you list of yours. Coming close just doesn't cut it anymore with anyone but your wife.

[Tgo01]

You're surprised a Democrat is eager for progress by it's party? Christ you must be easy on Christmas.


But you're such a slimy piece of shit, Seran, that I'm sure you'll just ignore all of this, or like I predicted now just say "Well those are good things to fight for right now!"

Sometimes I scare myself at how good I am.


I'd be more surprised if you ever admitted your wrong, like that made you list of yours. Coming close just doesn't cut it anymore with anyone but your wife.

Just for you, fuck face Seran, I went ahead and found the "missing" things from my list in your source.

-Publication of corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards
PAYEQUITY.—A comparison of pay 12amongst racial and ethnic minorities (and to the ex-13tent possible, results disaggregated by ethnic group) 14as compared to their white counterparts and com-15parison of pay between men and women for similar 16roles and assignments


-Permanent paid leave
PERMANENTREQUIREMENTS ONALLCORPORA-15TIONSRECEIVINGFEDERALAIDRELATED TOCOVID– 1619.—Any corporation that receives Federal aid related to 17COVID–19 shall permanently comply with the following: 18(1) PAID LEAVE FOR WORKERS.—The corpora-19tion shall provide at least 14 days of paid leave to 20workers (employees and contractors, full-time and 21part-time) who— 22(A) are unable to telework; 23(B) need to be isolated or quarantined to 24prevent the spread of COVID–19; or (C) need time off to care for the needs of 1family members.


-Federal $15 minimum wage
MINIMUM WAGE.—The corporation shall 3pay each employee (full-time and part-time) of the 4corporation a wage of not less than $15 an hour, be-5ginning not later than January 1, 2021.


There you go, Seran. Each and every single thing on my original list is indeed in the Democratic plan YOU YOURSELF LINKED TO. You know that list, the list you said "bullshit" to just a couple of hours ago.

It's okay, Seran, literally everyone here knows what a piece of shit you are and never once expected you to admit you were wrong or to admit that Democrats are giant pieces of shit for pushing for all of these giveaways while holding American workers, American families, American investments and retirements, the American economy, and the American stock exchange hostage until they get what they want.

You are garbage.

[Tgo01]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/los-angeles-times-and-bloomberg-news-federal-stockpile-of-n95-masks-was-depleted-under-obama-and-never-restocked

Oh hey look, I guess Trump isn't lying when he says the system in place was shit before he even became president:


The national shortage of N95 respirator masks can be traced back to 2009 after the H1N1 swine flu pandemic, when the Obama administration was advised to replenish a national stockpile but did not, according to reports from Bloomberg News and the Los Angeles Times.

[~Rocktar~]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1241558583193583617

[Parkbandit]

The Democrats' demands are even more absurd than that. It's like they are using this crisis to get EVERYTHING on their wish list, well everything but slavery reparations, I'm sure that's in the next set of demands.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/03/23/here-are-the-details-of-nancy-pelosis-leftist-wish-list-and-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-wuhan-coronavirus-n2565543

-Publication of corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards

-A bail out on all current debt at the Postal Service

-Required early voting

-Required same day voter registration

-Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining

-Full offset of airline emissions by 2025

-Publication and reporting of greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights

-Retirement plans for community newspaper employees

-Federal $15 minimum wage

-Permanent paid leave


Utter bullshit, that's not been drafted into any bill or proposal. You and your conservative free press organization are starting your own fake news orgy.

That didn't age well.

I don't blame you for just being stupid here.. I blame you for purposely being ignorant on everything. Your stupidity just adds to the fun.

We need to get you and Backlash into a ring together... you've put in some major work.

[Solkern]

I’m very disappointed by the Democratic Party, the states are in an extremely bad situation, and they need to “win” in order to get any bill passed.

[Parkbandit]

I’m very disappointed by the Democratic Party, the states are in an extremely bad situation, and they need to “win” in order to get any bill passed.

I'm not. I'm happy they have chosen this time, this crisis to drive their own political agenda.. instead of trying to help the American people.

Hopefully they get absolutely roasted in November. I'm not counting on it though.. because if there is one constant: People are stupid.

[Methais]

This article has amazing charts. About a quarter of the way into the article, study the chart titled "Country by country: how coronavirus case trajectories compare." If the other countries are reporting truthful numbers, then the USA is doing worse than every other country, with no exceptions.

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

Shut the fuck up Fallen, fucking ass plunger.

[Methais]

Dems have jumped the shark with their "bill" for free everything. They are going to get MASSACRED in the elections this year. Really, really, really, bad politics to try and jam the green deal in while people are literally dying.

CANNOT WAIT FOR NOVEMBER AND THE WAVE OF REPUBLICANS.

In before BacKKKlash shows up to tell you about the incoming blue tsunami.

Where has that sack of fail been anyway? Did he get Coronavirus?

[Parkbandit]

In before BacKKKlash shows up to tell you about the incoming blue tsunami.

Where has that sack of fail been anyway? Did he get Coronavirus?

He's probably manning the take out service window he owns, manages, leases, works at...

[Methais]

Speaking of retards...

Baton Rouge church hosts more than 1,800 people amid COVID-19 outbreak (https://wgno.com/news/health/coronavirus/louisiana-church-hosts-more-than-1800-people-amid-covid-19-outbreak)


CENTRAL, LA. (FOX 44) (LOCAL 33) – The Life Tabernacle Church hosted 1,825 people at their Sunday morning service.

26 buses were used to pick people up from around the Baton Rouge area and transport them to Sunday service.

Pastor Tony Spell says the way to handle a pandemic is through the healing hand of Jesus.

That is our command, they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover.

Social distancing did not happen at the service, held outside. All 1,825 people were spread across the campuses seven buildings.

Throughout the service parishioners could be seen touching each other and closely gathering, very few wearing masks or gloves.

Spell says if anyone in his congregation contracts covid-19 he will heal them through God.

“I’m going to address that by laying hands on them and praying for them and depending on God to heal their body,” Spell said.

Governor Edwards when asked addressed the controversial service with his same message from the beginning.

“I would urge that faith leaders and all faith leaders to heed this directive and not necessarily engage in mass gatherings where this coronavirus can spread,” Edwards said.

Spell says Pastors must act as first responders.

“When the paramedics can’t get there, when the law enforcement can’t get there, the holy ghost can get there it will make a difference in someone’s life,” Spell said.

Pastor Tony Spell says 1,000 covered lunches were served, 9 water baptisms took place and parishioners donated 30 pints of blood.

https://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Broken_73c1b6_5375577.gif

[Methais]

Sometimes I scare myself at how good I am.



Just for you, fuck face Seran, I went ahead and found the "missing" things from my list in your source.

-Publication of corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards
PAYEQUITY.—A comparison of pay 12amongst racial and ethnic minorities (and to the ex-13tent possible, results disaggregated by ethnic group) 14as compared to their white counterparts and com-15parison of pay between men and women for similar 16roles and assignments


-Permanent paid leave
PERMANENTREQUIREMENTS ONALLCORPORA-15TIONSRECEIVINGFEDERALAIDRELATED TOCOVID– 1619.—Any corporation that receives Federal aid related to 17COVID–19 shall permanently comply with the following: 18(1) PAID LEAVE FOR WORKERS.—The corpora-19tion shall provide at least 14 days of paid leave to 20workers (employees and contractors, full-time and 21part-time) who— 22(A) are unable to telework; 23(B) need to be isolated or quarantined to 24prevent the spread of COVID–19; or (C) need time off to care for the needs of 1family members.


-Federal $15 minimum wage
MINIMUM WAGE.—The corporation shall 3pay each employee (full-time and part-time) of the 4corporation a wage of not less than $15 an hour, be-5ginning not later than January 1, 2021.


There you go, Seran. Each and every single thing on my original list is indeed in the Democratic plan YOU YOURSELF LINKED TO. You know that list, the list you said "bullshit" to just a couple of hours ago.

It's okay, Seran, literally everyone here knows what a piece of shit you are and never once expected you to admit you were wrong or to admit that Democrats are giant pieces of shit for pushing for all of these giveaways while holding American workers, American families, American investments and retirements, the American economy, and the American stock exchange hostage until they get what they want.

You are garbage.

dEmOcRaTs JuSt WaNt To HeLp ThE lItTlE gUy!!!!!

Also:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET16dLuXkAApmpM?format=jpg&name=large

[Archigeek]

Speaking of retards...

Baton Rouge church hosts more than 1,800 people amid COVID-19 outbreak (https://wgno.com/news/health/coronavirus/louisiana-church-hosts-more-than-1800-people-amid-covid-19-outbreak)



https://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Broken_73c1b6_5375577.gif


Jesus answered him, "it is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.' "

This kind of bullshit is the height of arrogance. At one point, 80% of the cases in South Korea came from the spread from one church service. Anyone who's not taking this seriously is a douche bag.

[Gelston]

This kind of bullshit is the height of arrogance. At one point, 80% of the cases in South Korea came from the spread from one church service. Anyone who's not taking this seriously is a douche bag.

Any priest that gives a shit about his flock would tell them to stay home and set up video services or something. This guy is a greedy asshole.

[RichardCranium]

Any priest that gives a shit about his flock would tell them to stay home and set up video services or something. This guy is a greedy asshole.

They've been getting roasted on the news here in BR and on Facebook. My church has been live streaming services for a few weeks now and I know of many others that are as well.

[Seran]

I’m very disappointed by the Democratic Party, the states are in an extremely bad situation, and they need to “win” in order to get any bill passed.

I too am disappointed that the Democrats in Congress would try to focus on the health, safety and financial stability of families, instead of corporate welfare. They should know that countless American's will be inspired by stock buybacks, executive bonuses and the fleet of corporate jets flying overhead.

[Methais]

Dem Rep. Told Colleagues Coronavirus Bill Is ‘Tremendous Opportunity to Restructure Things to Fit Our Vision’ (https://news.yahoo.com/dem-rep-told-colleagues-coronavirus-145245071.html)

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/vcB63gNMIwsmiH0QJq2Vhg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTM5Ni41NjI1/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/cvgch.CPfLuA.3czNYFhIg--~B/aD01NzY7dz0xMDI0O3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en-US/the_national_review_738/fbcf8b84df9e205d28a252fb23d9f85e

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) worked to scupper the phase-three coronavirus relief package on Sunday after Majority Whip James Clyburn (D., S.C.) told caucus members last week that the bill was “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.”

Clyburn’s comments came on a Thursday call featuring more than 200 House Democrats, during which caucus members laid out a list of provisions they wanted to be included in the Senate’s trillion-dollar package.

Republicans have said that Democrats have reportedly demanded increased bargaining powers for unions, as well as environmental regulations for airlines and more wind and solar tax credits.

Pelosi flew into Washington, D.C. over the weekend to add demands to negotiations, a move that Senate Republicans have cited as the reason why the procedural vote to fast-track the legislation fell by a party-line vote on Sunday night.

Speaking after the vote, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) slammed Democrats for playing politics in a time of crisis.

“All of a sudden, the Democratic leader and the speaker of the House shows up and we’re back to square one,” McConnell said, saying the shift amounted to “obstruction.”

“We’re fiddling here, fiddling with the emotions of the American people, fiddling with the markets, fiddling with our health care. The American people expect us to act tomorrow,” McConnell said. “And I want everybody to fully understand if we aren’t able to act, it’ll be because of our colleagues on the other side continuing to dicker when the country expects us to come together and address this problem.”

https://news.yahoo.com/dem-rep-told-colleagues-coronavirus-145245071.html

[RichardCranium]

I too am disappointed that the Democrats in Congress would try to focus on the health, safety and financial stability of families, instead of corporate welfare. They should know that countless of American's will be inspired by stock buybacks, executive bonuses and the fleet of corporate jets flying overhead.

Forest, trees, etc.

[Archigeek]

They've been getting roasted on the news here in BR and on Facebook. My church has been live streaming services for a few weeks now and I know of many others that are as well.

My church is doing the same. For the first time in 120 years they didn't have an in person service in the sanctuary on a Sunday.

[Seran]

Forest, trees, etc.

That would explain the disconnect amongst a lot of Republican's, particularly Conservatives. They view individual taxpayers as flora and shrubbery.

[RichardCranium]

That would explain the disconnect amongst a lot of Republican's, particularly Conservatives. They view individual taxpayers as flora and shrubbery.

You probably thought this was clever, but in the end it's just more deflection.

[Parkbandit]

I too am disappointed that the Democrats in Congress would try to focus on the health, safety and financial stability of families, instead of corporate welfare. They should know that countless American's will be inspired by stock buybacks, executive bonuses and the fleet of corporate jets flying overhead.

You're not just an ignorant sheep.. you're a retarded one. Like this guy:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/QxwAh47RTOmSxIxw2T/giphy.gif

Only this guy is smarter than you by a factor of 10.

[Methais]

That would explain the disconnect amongst a lot of Republican's, particularly Conservatives. They view individual taxpayers as flora and shrubbery.

You're stupid as fuck and should just sit down already.

[Tgo01]

That would explain the disconnect amongst a lot of Republican's, particularly Conservatives. They view individual taxpayers as flora and shrubbery.

Tgo01: Look at all of this unrelated shit Democrats are demanding before they help innocent American families!
Seran: Bullshit! None of that is true.
Tgo01 proves 100% of it is true.
Seran: Republicans don't care about the people!

All we need now is for you to start stalking people's social media and try to get them fired from their job and you could take over Androidpk's job on the PC of being the biggest shithead ever.

[Seran]

You probably thought this was clever, but in the end it's just more deflection.

I was just so inspired by your usage of punctuation and nouns in your two word reply that I lost all meaningful regard for the point you were trying to make.

I too like forests and trees.

[Parkbandit]

Tgo01: Look at all of this unrelated shit Democrats are demanding before they help innocent American families!
Seran: Bullshit! None of that is true.
Tgo01 proves 100% of it is true.
Seran: Republicans don't care about the people!

All we need now is for you to start stalking people's social media and try to get them fired from their job and you could take over Androidpk's job on the PC of being the biggest shithead ever.

Or.. he could be Keller level of scumbag and creep on your daughter's social media because you were a meanie head to him in World of Warcraft 15 years ago... for the real crown.

[Parkbandit]

I was just so inspired by your usage of punctuation and nouns in your two word reply that I lost all meaningful regard for the point you were trying to make.

I too like forests and trees.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/QxwAh47RTOmSxIxw2T/giphy.gif

[Tgo01]

Or.. he could be Keller level of scumbag and creep on your daughter's social media because you were a meanie head to him in World of Warcraft 15 years ago... for the real crown.

I don't think it's any coincidence that the absolute worst of the worst on the PC politics folder have all been progressives.

[Seran]

Tgo01: Look at all of this unrelated shit Democrats are demanding before they help innocent American families!
Seran: Bullshit! None of that is true.
Tgo01 proves 100% of it is true.
Seran: Republicans don't care about the people!

Only half that list was in the House proposed bill and nothing about making permanent paid leave or instituting a $15 dollar federal minimum. Are you appalled that voter rights in our democracy be protected? Shocking!

[Tgo01]

Only half that list was in the House proposed bill and nothing about making permanent paid leave or instituting a $15 dollar federal minimum.

I literally quoted those two things a few pasts back that were once again IN YOUR OWN LINK, are you resorting to just outright lies now, Seran? Wasn't burying your head in the sand bad enough?

What's really funny is when you started this latest round of mental retardation you chastised me for supposedly not providing a source, even though I did, you then went ahead and provided a source to supposedly prove me wrong and yet didn't bother to even fucking read that source because your own source proved me 100% correct. Now you are apparently saying YOUR OWN SOURCE isn't accurate.

Fuck you and your Chinese boyfriends.

Just answer one question for me, Seran: how important is abortion to you? Apparently it's so important to you that you're willing to let the Democrats totally destroy our economy and our nation.

[Seran]

Coronavirus /= Abortion Rights. What the hell are you even talking about. It's obvious you haven't gone through the House bill as neither of those two items are there. Can't say I'm even surprised anymore how often you gloss over the truth.

[Stolis]

Coronavirus /= Abortion Rights. What the hell are you even talking about. It's obvious you haven't gone through the House bill as neither of those two items are there. Can't say I'm even surprised anymore how often you gloss over the truth.

"Even as senators were clashing on one side of the Capitol on Monday, on the other side House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was holding a news conference to unveil House Democrats’ version of the stimulus bill. Pelosi’s $2.5 trillion-plus package would send $1,500 to individual Americans; pump money into the health-care system, unemployment insurance and schools; and — according to a draft circulating Monday — require airlines and other companies that receive aid to pay a $15-an-hour minimum wage."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/03/23/trump-coronavirus-senate-economic-stimulus/

You were saying?

[Tgo01]

Coronavirus /= Abortion Rights. What the hell are you even talking about. It's obvious you haven't gone through the House bill as neither of those two items are there. Can't say I'm even surprised anymore how often you gloss over the truth.

Page 546 of YOUR OWN SOURCE:


PERMANENT REQUIREMENTS ON ALL CORPORATIONS RECEIVING FEDERAL AID RELATED TO COVID–19.—Any corporation that receives Federal aid related to COVID–19 shall permanently comply with the following: (1) PAID LEAVE FOR WORKERS.—The corporation shall provide at least 14 days of paid leave to workers (employees and contractors, full-time and part-time)

Page 547:


(2) MINIMUM WAGE.—The corporation shall pay each employee (full-time and part-time) of the corporation a wage of not less than $15 an hour, beginning not later than January 1, 2021.

Just stop already, Seran. I feel like I'm beating up the mentally challenged kid in school at this point.

Also it's pretty clear the only reason morons such as yourself even vote Democrat anymore is because abortion is your number one concern, hence my question of just how important is abortion to you that you turn a blind eye to Democrats willing to sink our entire economy and nation because they want to push their political agenda and withhold aid from American families, workers, and businesses, until they get their deal filled with Democratic special interests.

[Seran]

"Even as senators were clashing on one side of the Capitol on Monday, on the other side House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was holding a news conference to unveil House Democrats’ version of the stimulus bill. Pelosi’s $2.5 trillion-plus package would send $1,500 to individual Americans; pump money into the health-care system, unemployment insurance and schools; and — according to a draft circulating Monday — require airlines and other companies that receive aid to pay a $15-an-hour minimum wage."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/03/23/trump-coronavirus-senate-economic-stimulus/

You were saying?

That is not even close to a federal increase in the minimum wage. That is a rider specific to an industry bailout ONLY

[Tgo01]

That is not even close to a federal increase in the minimum wage. That is a rider specific to an industry bailout ONLY

And you're okay with this? You're okay with the government saying to businesses "Hey, we are forcing you to close down, and since we are forcing you to close down you might go out of business, if you want us to help you stay in business (since we are the reason you are going out of business) then you're going to have to do X, Y, and Z."

You know what this is called in the legal sense, Seran? Extortion.

And don't act like this is just going to be a handful of businesses that are going to receive federal aid, we are talking about thousands of businesses, both small businesses and large corporations.

[Seran]

Yes, I am absolutely okay with the government making conditions on an industry that has been bailed out more times in recent history than any other.

[Neveragain]

Congress trying to pass a bill

#GeneralStrike #NotDying4Wallstreet trending

https://i.gifer.com/Luh.gif

[Tgo01]

This is how disgusting the DNC's propaganda arm (also known as the mainstream media) is.

NYT's first headline:

https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yMjg5MTE0My9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTU4Njc1MDM2NH0.ycWjeJ_3I i5LYqdL1_EUawK_ujCVcOVyIcSiu2FZSVU/img.jpg?width=980

When that was deemed too close to the truth they changed it slightly:

https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yMjg5MTE0NC9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTYyOTgyMTIwM30.QOGjSdqZP _VApzy88gWsVGsZNWeXHIgK9M3L7Izpbf0/img.jpg?width=980

Better, but it still gives the impression that Democrats are to blame, can't have that!

https://assets.rebelmouse.io/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yMjg5MTE0NS9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTYxNzk5MTI5Mn0.d4Mla3pHX t0wXzuGvUm8wpNtD_LYbgfh5JaNN_eevYE/img.jpg?width=980

That's more like it, don't mention the Democrats at all! But it's still missing something...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/opinion/coronavirus-bailout-mcconnell-congress.html


The Coronavirus Bailout Stalled. And It’s Mitch McConnell’s Fault.

Senate Republicans are blocking passage of an economic bailout plan that protects jobs and wages.

Perfect!

[Tgo01]

Yes, I am absolutely okay with the government making conditions on an industry that has been bailed out more times in recent history than any other.

That's not the scenario I presented to you, you worthless piece of shit.

[RichardCranium]

I was just so inspired by your usage of punctuation and nouns in your two word reply that I lost all meaningful regard for the point you were trying to make.

I too like forests and trees.

So you're either being purposefully obtuse, retarded, or both.

[Risen]

More compelling than any headline or political affiliation - 15% and climbing.

Cases - 410K
Recovered - 107K
Deaths - 18K

[Stolis]

That is not even close to a federal increase in the minimum wage. That is a rider specific to an industry bailout ONLY

Are they or are they not trying to move the minimum wage to $15? Yes, or no.

Jesus fuck go back to ass fucking yourself with an eggroll.

[Methais]

So you're either being purposefully obtuse....

https://i.gifer.com/D9OV.gif

[Tgo01]

Yes, I am absolutely okay with the government making conditions on an industry that has been bailed out more times in recent history than any other.


But you're such a slimy piece of shit, Seran, that I'm sure you'll just ignore all of this, or like I predicted now just say "Well those are good things to fight for right now!"

Even time4fun isn't THIS disingenuous. Seran is in a league of his own at the moment, a very dumb and retarded league.

[Solkern]

The Dems need to stop putting conditions on this shit and just help the fucking people, who gives a shit about the past. We have a huge emergency now... do your job for the fucking people who are suffering now. All these conditions are just delaying shit and causing more problems.
FYI, I’m a democrat, and my party is fucking this shit up right now... it’s disgusting and pathetic.

[Stanley Burrell]

https://i.gifer.com/D9OV.gif

This is of much win. I'm gonna read this thread eventually, like maybe in a month or three or four. Alright.

f

[Stolis]

The Dems need to stop putting conditions on this shit and just help the fucking people, who gives a shit about the past. We have a huge emergency now... do your job for the fucking people who are suffering now. All these conditions are just delaying shit and causing more problems.
FYI, I’m a democrat, and my party is fucking this shit up right now... it’s disgusting and pathetic.

November's gonna be a whole lot of fun for voting for Congress. If you voted to delay this shit, bitch be gone.

[Tgo01]

November's gonna be a whole lot of fun for voting for Congress. If you voted to delay this shit, bitch be gone.

You can't expect Congress to just help people without giving away money to the following Democratic special interest groups:

350 million dollars to Native American Programs
7 million dollars to Fair Housing Activities
15 million dollars to Minority Business Development
100 million dollars to Construction and Environmental Compliance and Restoration

And a bunch of other shit stuffed in this 1000+ page bill.

[Tgo01]

You can't expect Congress to just help people without giving away money to the following Democratic special interest groups:

350 million dollars to Native American Programs
7 million dollars to Fair Housing Activities
15 million dollars to Minority Business Development
100 million dollars to Construction and Environmental Compliance and Restoration

And a bunch of other shit stuffed in this 1000+ page bill.

Oh yeah let's not forget 300 fucking million dollars to PBS. Because that's a priority right now.

[Tgo01]

Listening to these reporters grill Trump about his Easter Day timeline for reopening the economy it sure sounds like the media wants the economy closed forever.

Do these people have any idea about the long term effects if the economy is closed for months? We are talking entire industries shutting down and never opening back up. Have these people been living their privileged life for so long that they think food just magically appears in their fridge? We need farmers out there growing food, in order to grow food we need people out there drilling for oil, in order to get food to the grocery store we need truckers moving that food, none of that is going to last too long if we keep the economy closed for months.

At some people we have to decide what is worse: people dying from this disease, or people dying from suicide and starvation because they are locked in their homes for months. I read earlier that Portland, Oregon is already responding to a 26% increase to suicide attempts since their lock down was implemented. But let's keep this lock down going for months!!

Also the fake news is working overtime in regards to the Chinese virus. I've been watching Trump's daily briefings every single day and this is how the conversation went today.

Trump: I would like to reopen the economy in a couple of weeks.
Reporters: OMG! Is it a good idea to stop all of these measures you have been asking of people and asking them to go back to work?!?!?
Trump: We can do both, we can open up the economy and still ask people to do social distancing, ask them to wash their hands more often, and ask them to not touch their face.
MSNBC headline in regards to this discussion: Trump eager to end social distancing as virus spreads faster (https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-eager-to-end-social-distancing-as-virus-spreads-faster-81132101988)

I can see why the media is in a hurry to stop broadcasting Trump's daily briefings, can't have people watch the president and get the information directly from him. No no no! Gotta filter his message through the media who will honestly and accurately tell us what he said.

[Neveragain]

Bailout amount now up to 6 trillion.

[Tgo01]

Bailout amount now up to 6 trillion.

I think 4 trillion of that is in loans though so presumably the government would get most of that back. But still, yeah, crazy high number.

[Neveragain]

It's not really a loan when we're at 0% interest.

[Gelston]

It's not really a loan when we're at 0% interest.

It is when they default

[Neveragain]

It is when they default

That's when we do 12 trillion in bailouts.

[Methais]

Listening to these reporters grill Trump about his Easter Day timeline for reopening the economy it sure sounds like the media wants the economy closed forever.

Do these people have any idea about the long term effects if the economy is closed for months? We are talking entire industries shutting down and never opening back up. Have these people been living their privileged life for so long that they think food just magically appears in their fridge? We need farmers out there growing food, in order to grow food we need people out there drilling for oil, in order to get food to the grocery store we need truckers moving that food, none of that is going to last too long if we keep the economy closed for months.

At some people we have to decide what is worse: people dying from this disease, or people dying from suicide and starvation because they are locked in their homes for months. I read earlier that Portland, Oregon is already responding to a 26% increase to suicide attempts since their lock down was implemented. But let's keep this lock down going for months!!

Also the fake news is working overtime in regards to the Chinese virus. I've been watching Trump's daily briefings every single day and this is how the conversation went today.

Trump: I would like to reopen the economy in a couple of weeks.
Reporters: OMG! Is it a good idea to stop all of these measures you have been asking of people and asking them to go back to work?!?!?
Trump: We can do both, we can open up the economy and still ask people to do social distancing, ask them to wash their hands more often, and ask them to not touch their face.
MSNBC headline in regards to this discussion: Trump eager to end social distancing as virus spreads faster (https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-eager-to-end-social-distancing-as-virus-spreads-faster-81132101988)

I can see why the media is in a hurry to stop broadcasting Trump's daily briefings, can't have people watch the president and get the information directly from him. No no no! Gotta filter his message through the media who will honestly and accurately tell us what he said.

https://i.imgur.com/cCJSy7P.jpg

[Solkern]

Update. I managed to get out of Milan! Thank god! Landed in Moscow and got a few hours before I fly home. It wasn’t easy. They initially refused me entry as the border is closed and I don’t carry my marriage certificate with me... couldn’t prove I had relatives in Russia. A small bribe and a picture of it, got me through...
Right now it’s 8:30ish in the morning, city is a ghost town.. which is extremely surprising... since they said the virus was beaten here and life is completely normal... lol

[Solkern]

https://i.imgur.com/cCJSy7P.jpg



I personally think this is a stupid idea... while I agree people want life to return to normal, we don’t always get why we want... saying we can work and do social distancing at the same time, easier said then done. Unless you aren’t actively thinking about it, you won’t do it. This virus will spread even faster than before.... should just shut down the states for 2-4 weeks(also easier said than done)
It’s a difficult choice both ways. Glad I don’t have this responsibility.
A lot of people are to blame for this pandemic.
1. The Chinese of course. They are the MAIN reason for all this... anyone who says otherwise is fucking stupid. Having lived there for 5 fucking years... they are 100% the root of all this.
2. I do blame Trump partly, from what I read(could be wrong, feel free to correct me on this)... his not taking this pandemic seriously and mixed messaging also helped with the spread.
3. The retarded people... “if I get corona, I get corona!” Those types of idiots from the video you shared earlier..

[Tgo01]

Andrew Cuomo is receiving a lot of praise for this tweet of his:


My mother is not expendable. Your mother is not expendable.

We will not put a dollar figure on human life.

We can have a public health strategy that is consistent with an economic one.

No one should be talking about social darwinism for the sake of the stock market.

First: Give me a break. This is the same man that literally celebrated when he signed into law a bill that allowed women to have an abortion up until the moment of birth.
Secondly: While I get what he is going for, at some point society will simply break down and then a LOT more people will suffer.

What is going to happen when we stop making products that the world wants and these businesses setup shop in some other country? Those jobs wouldn't come back.

What happens when farmers stop farming and truckers stop trucking? No more food and no more products in the stores. The entire world is interconnected with a multitude of supply chains to keep everything running. Honestly I'm surprised shit hasn't already started falling apart, shit maybe it already has, but these people want to keep this going for possibly MONTHS more? Shit for sure would start breaking down by then and the US economy might never get back on track.

"You're putting money over people's lives!!" No, I'm looking at what scenario would result in more deaths: opening up the economy earlier and saving the US economy which would result in some people dying, or keeping the US economy shut for several months which would destroy the US economy for years, possibly even decades, which would result in tens of millions of people losing their jobs, people won't be able to afford medicine or food, people will get massive depression and suicide rates would sky rocket. The former is clearly the way to go.

I honestly can't help but think that Democrats and the media are willing to completely destroy the US economy JUST because they want to make Trump look bad. This is where we are at right now, fuck over 310+ million people just to make sure Trump loses an election in a few months.

To date this virus hasn't even killed as many people worldwide than the flu kills in the US every year.

Right now this virus has killed less than 2% of Americans compared to how many Americans die to the flu each year. Is this going to be a yearly thing now, we completely fuck our economy and ourselves to save a few lives at the expense of many more lives?

[Voldemort]

Tg0, are you a paid trump bot?

[ClydeR]

Donald Trump is not a dummy. He must know that what he is saying is highly improbable. He knows that three weeks from now we will not be ready to go to work. Three weeks from now, hospitals in many cities, not just New York and New Orleans, will be overwhelmed. We will be in a much worse situation than today. I believe he is saying we will be ready to return to work on April 12 in an attempt to reassure the markets. It worked! But what will he say two weeks from now in the midst of a much worse crisis when his words are quoted back to him?

[Neveragain]

First: Give me a break. This is the same man that literally celebrated when he signed into law a bill that allowed women to have an abortion up until the moment of birth.
Secondly: While I get what he is going for, at some point society will simply break down and then a LOT more people will suffer.

I think we're in self denial if we can't recognize that society was already broken down.

[Parkbandit]

Update. I managed to get out of Milan! Thank god! Landed in Moscow and got a few hours before I fly home. It wasn’t easy. They initially refused me entry as the border is closed and I don’t carry my marriage certificate with me... couldn’t prove I had relatives in Russia. A small bribe and a picture of it, got me through...
Right now it’s 8:30ish in the morning, city is a ghost town.. which is extremely surprising... since they said the virus was beaten here and life is completely normal... lol

Thanks for that update. We've all been awaiting the next chapter in your story.

I can't wait to find out how this ends.

[Ashlander]

Thanks for that update. We've all been awaiting the next chapter in your story.

I can't wait to find out how this ends.

Putin having him executed as a potential threat.

[Parkbandit]

Putin having him executed as a potential threat.

Or the Chinese government... or the Italian police...

He's like 007.

[Archigeek]

Minnesota about to get added to the shelter in place list.

[Methais]

Pornhub Premium is now free for everyone to encourage you to stay home (https://mashable.com/article/free-pornhub-premium-coronavirus-social-distancing/)

[Astray]

Imagine paying for porn, ever.

[Gelston]

Imagine paying for porn, ever.

Some kinks require payment to have quantity and quality.

[Tgo01]

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/25/inaccurate-virus-models-are-panicking-officials-into-ill-advised-lockdowns/#.XnvbDNcSTKY.twitter

The website everyone is getting their doomsday predictions from and that is demanding the economy close for weeks or even months appears to be run by a bunch of Democratic activists and their predictions have been wildly wrong so far.


COVID Act Now predicted that by March 19 the state of Tennessee could expect 190 hospitalizations of patients with confirmed Wuhan virus. By March 19, they only had 15 patients hospitalized.

Or in other words only 8% of their estimate ended up in the hospital.


In New York, Covid Act Now claimed nearly 5,400 New Yorkers would’ve been hospitalized by March 19. The actual number of hospitalizations is around 750. The site also claimed nearly 13,000 New York hospitalizations by March 23. The actual number was around 2,500.

19%.


In Georgia, COVID Act Now predicted 688 hospitalizations by March 23. By that date, they had around 800 confirmed cases in the whole state, and fewer than 300 hospitalized.

37%.


In Florida, Covid Act Now predicted that by March 19, the state would face 400 hospitalizations. On March 19, Gov. Ron DeSantis said 90 people in Florida had been hospitalized.

22%.

[Tgo01]

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/25/inaccurate-virus-models-are-panicking-officials-into-ill-advised-lockdowns/#.XnvbDNcSTKY.twitter

The website everyone is getting their doomsday predictions from and that is demanding the economy close for weeks or even months appears to be run by a bunch of Democratic activists and their predictions have been wildly wrong so far.



Or in other words only 8% of their estimate ended up in the hospital.



19%.



37%.



22%.

Oh yeah, these fuckers are recommending shutting down our entire country for THREE FUCKING MONTHS. There literally won't be a country left afterwards.

This is where government officials and journalists are getting all of their talking points from. This fucking site.

This site is literally fearmongering states like Missouri to shut down the state now or else there will be 12.5k hospitalizations by April 16th, which is only 22 days away.

Missouri currently has 356 cases total, not hospitalizations, just cases. I think NY said their number of cases was doubling every 4 days (and they are one the hardest hit state), meaning in 22 days we can expect this number to MAYBE double 5 times to 11,392 TOTAL CASES, still 1k fewer cases than this website is predicting HOSPITALIZATIONS, and I think the total hospitalization rate of NY is either 10 or 19%.

I wonder if the US is being taken for a ride. We have been hearing for close to a month now that patients would be dying in the streets and in hospital hallways because we can't keep up with demand and I haven't heard one story like that yet.

[Parkbandit]

Oh yeah, these fuckers are recommending shutting down our entire country for THREE FUCKING MONTHS. There literally won't be a country left afterwards.

This is where government officials and journalists are getting all of their talking points from. This fucking site.

This site is literally fearmongering states like Missouri to shut down the state now or else there will be 12.5k hospitalizations by April 16th, which is only 22 days away.

Missouri currently has 356 cases total, not hospitalizations, just cases. I think NY said their number of cases was doubling every 4 days (and they are one the hardest hit state), meaning in 22 days we can expect this number to MAYBE double 5 times to 11,392 TOTAL CASES, still 1k fewer cases than this website is predicting HOSPITALIZATIONS, and I think the total hospitalization rate of NY is either 10 or 19%.

I wonder if the US is being taken for a ride. We have been hearing for close to a month now that patients would be dying in the streets and in hospital hallways because we can't keep up with demand and I haven't heard one story like that yet.

What do most leftists want more than anything right now? Socialism. Well, to get there, Capitalism has to fail.