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LOL BRIELUS
01-19-2020, 10:11 AM
Thinking about joining GOS to warcamp as warmage. Does the shroud activate with stomped 909? That would be a big decider I think

kutter
01-19-2020, 12:19 PM
Short answer, yes, however it does not seem to be nearly as disruptive as some other spells, ie. e-wave or cone. My UAC warmage used stomp a lot in warcamps with great success, you just have to be aware of the shroud and either suspend use till it settles down some or leave the camp for a few minutes.

Maerit
01-19-2020, 02:11 PM
Since I mastered GoS twice as a warmage, I can say that it was not as easy as other professions since so much triggered the shroud. 909 stomp will trigger it as does just about any other room control mechanic you have at your disposal. My strategy was simply to target the dangerous casters as a priority and try to keep things under control with quick kills. Spell tanking is a must, and you will want to evacuate the area frequently.

That being said, the struggle was worth it. GoS has been the best society I've tried on my warmage. Feels like cheating sometimes.

Drew
01-19-2020, 04:14 PM
Noob question but what is 909 stomp?

kutter
01-19-2020, 04:44 PM
Noob question but what is 909 stomp?

Tremors can be cast in one of two ways, either open cast and you get tremors every round for 20-30 seconds or you can prep 909 and evoke. Evoking will give you so many 'mini' cast for lack of a better term where you can either tap if you have a runestaff or stomp if not and you will get one tremor only. The more you train in earth lore then the more cycles you get beginning with 5. The evoke cost 9 mana and each subsequent stomp/tap uses 5 mana which is reduced with elemental mana control ranks.

khorpulent
01-21-2020, 10:52 AM
It's also worth remembering that the shroud is localized. So if you stir up the shroud on the far west side of the camp, you can move to the far east side and the shroud is fresh. That being said, I've found warcamping difficult for my warmages at higher levels, though it's doable at lower levels. You're also going to want some kind of item that can cast 114 to deal with poison from 640, though it may not be quite as big of a problem yet at your level.

LOL BRIELUS
01-21-2020, 12:48 PM
Thanks for the tips. I probably won't at this time, but will keep in the back of my mind

Methais
01-21-2020, 01:04 PM
Thinking about joining GOS to warcamp as warmage. Does the shroud activate with stomped 909? That would be a big decider I think

Yes, but not as bad. If you want to test it, have someone open a warcamp for you. You don't have to be in GoS to enter warcamps, only to make them visible.

Ironically, Symbol of Sleep is by far the best CC for warcamps.

In b4 Estild nerfs tomorrow and replaces it with a P2W item that lets you use it in warcamps.

Roblar
01-21-2020, 01:14 PM
It's also worth remembering that the shroud is localized. So if you stir up the shroud on the far west side of the camp, you can move to the far east side and the shroud is fresh. That being said, I've found warcamping difficult for my warmages at higher levels, though it's doable at lower levels. You're also going to want some kind of item that can cast 114 to deal with poison from 640, though it may not be quite as big of a problem yet at your level.

I haven't checked in awhile but to my understanding it isn't fresh and the shroud is in all rooms but affected less the further from the entry room you go (since you have to deal with rt moving out and so more danger).

Also, 114 doesn't work with the poison type from 640 afaik. It doesn't show up as the poison spell on you but acts like a script, varying in effect and severity before scaling back down. I haven't tested the new channel option of dispel though but doubt it works too since not a spell effect (or in spell active).

JNewhall
01-21-2020, 01:42 PM
I haven't checked in awhile but to my understanding it isn't fresh and the shroud is in all rooms but affected less the further from the entry room you go (since you have to deal with rt moving out and so more danger).

Also, 114 doesn't work with the poison type from 640 afaik. It doesn't show up as the poison spell on you but acts like a script, varying in effect and severity before scaling back down. I haven't tested the new channel option of dispel though but doubt it works too since not a spell effect (or in spell active).

Unpoison definitely works on ranger thorn poison. Have used it to cure thorn poison in camps and in Reim.

Roblar
01-21-2020, 02:56 PM
Thanks, will try again next time. Never saw a change when I tried long ago.

khorpulent
01-21-2020, 04:20 PM
I haven't checked in awhile but to my understanding it isn't fresh and the shroud is in all rooms but affected less the further from the entry room you go (since you have to deal with rt moving out and so more danger).

Also, 114 doesn't work with the poison type from 640 afaik. It doesn't show up as the poison spell on you but acts like a script, varying in effect and severity before scaling back down. I haven't tested the new channel option of dispel though but doubt it works too since not a spell effect (or in spell active).

The shroud is just considerably more sensitive at the entrance. Usually more than two shots with an AoE spell will set it off. However, using an AoE spell on, say, the far western room of a camp shouldn't affect the far eastern room (or if it does, it's not enough of an effect to be noticeable). For example, if you ewave in the far western room and go one east, you'll see the message about ripples in the shroud or whatever when you enter the room. If you continue going east all the way to the other side, you won't see the message at all.

As for 640, unpoison will remove the poison if you cast it BEFORE the poison starts to produce effects. After getting hit with a thorn, you'll get a few messages about the lassitude growing worse, and 114 stop it at that point. But if it progresses to the point where you're getting increased RT or other penalties, 114 won't do anything until the poison wears off.

I actually had such trouble from 114 with my warmage that I bought a SK 114 item to deal with it. I also end up having to cast 114 at least once a minute on my monk, since the sheer volume of strikes from UAC ends up hitting 640 constantly.

Roblar
01-21-2020, 05:13 PM
Awesome I know the spell and will use it right away.

I probably tried it a few times when I started getting hit by it in Reim when it opened and didn't see any reversal effect (too late into it)

khorpulent
01-21-2020, 05:22 PM
Yeah, I had to highlight all the messages in red with yellow backgrounds so that I actually see them in the scroll of a camp.

RichardCranium
01-21-2020, 06:43 PM
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