STADIA just arrived.

[Murrandii]

Stadia enters the aaS dances (as a service).

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/6/18654632/google-stadia-price-release-date-games-bethesda-ea-doom-ubisoft-e3-2019

Less pricy than… GEMSTONE !!! LOL but what will be included in the free catalogues ? My guess is games like what PSN and Xbox offers, old games and indies.

But games like cyberpunk 2077! MK 11! FFXV! will be available!

No more consoles at 600$? The end of home computers for the casual gamers?

[Methais]

Stadia enters the aaS dances (as a service).

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/6/18654632/google-stadia-price-release-date-games-bethesda-ea-doom-ubisoft-e3-2019

Less pricy than… GEMSTONE !!! LOL but what will be included in the free catalogues ? My guess is games like what PSN and Xbox offers, old games and indies.

But games like cyberpunk 2077! MK 11! FFXV! will be available!

No more consoles at 600$? The end of home computers for the casual gamers?

Curious to see how laggy shooters and fighting games will be on this. I don’t see how games like that wouldn’t have noticeable input lag.

[Taernath]

It's going to be shit. OUYA 2.0.

Google has a history of dumping projects if they're not immediately successful.

You don't own anything.

Streaming data usage is going to be off the charts without an unlimited plan, nevermind issues with infrastructure and streaming in general.

There is no "system seller".


While you’ve probably heard predictions that Google’s Stadia will be the “Netflix of games,” it turns out the analogy only goes so far. While Google intends to eventually have a back catalog of free games included for your $10 monthly fee, Stadia is not primarily a subscription service. The subscription only includes a single game as of today — Destiny 2. Primarily, Google tells us you should expect to buy, not rent cloud games for the same retail prices you’d find on other platforms like PlayStation Network, Xbox Live, and Steam.

[Murrandii]

It's going to be shit.

Google has a history of dumping projects if they're not immediately successful.

You don't own anything.

Streaming data usage is going to be off the charts without an unlimited plan, nevermind issues with infrastructure and streaming in general.

There is no "system seller".

I totally understand your PoV here bro.

But aaS services are the new trend. Companies pay big bucks for workplace as a Service for their TI as a whole (MPaaS or WPaaS). That way, they save HUGE amount to let it handle by third parties.

Smaller companies pay BIG bucks for network as a Service for their connectivies (NaaS) and so on.

People were saying cloud technologies would hit a ceiling (oh almost a pun here). It's completely continuing.

I doubt cloud gaming will suck that much bro. Consoles as we know it will be a thing of the past like our DVDs, CDs and so on

[Taernath]

I totally understand your PoV here bro.

But aaS services are the new trend. Companies pay big bucks for workplace as a Service for their TI as a whole (MPaaS or WPaaS). That way, they save HUGE amount to let it handle by third parties.

Smaller companies pay BIG bucks for network as a Service for their connectivies (NaaS) and so on.

People were saying cloud technologies would hit a ceiling (oh almost a pun here). It's completely continuing.

I doubt cloud gaming will suck that much bro. Consoles as we know it will be a thing of the past like our DVDs, CDs and so on

Game streaming is already a thing - PS Now exists, and it's terrible even for PS3 games. I think you underestimate how much data will be required for streaming, and the type of infrastructure present in most of the US (and maybe Canada).

-At some point- streaming may be worth it. But it's not now.

[Methais]

I totally understand your PoV here bro.

But aaS services are the new trend. Companies pay big bucks for workplace as a Service for their TI as a whole (MPaaS or WPaaS). That way, they save HUGE amount to let it handle by third parties.

Smaller companies pay BIG bucks for network as a Service for their connectivies (NaaS) and so on.

People were saying cloud technologies would hit a ceiling (oh almost a pun here). It's completely continuing.

I doubt cloud gaming will suck that much bro. Consoles as we know it will be a thing of the past like our DVDs, CDs and so on

I promise you if nothing else, fighting games will suck fat dongs on this. Even with GGPO netcode and other rollback stuff they’ve been doing that makes it feel close to playing offline, online and offline are still totally different games because every frame (1 frame = 1/60th of a second) of lag matters. MK11’s netcode has a 3 frame input delay, for example. 3/60 of a second doesn’t sound like shit, but in fighting games it matters enough to where online and offline are different beasts. Online tournament wins are typically considered meaningless. Still totally playable, don’t get me wrong, but there is still a noticeable difference vs. offline. Having all that streaming on both players’s ends can’t do anything but exacerbate that.

FPS games will be in pretty much the same boat. Most slower paced games will probably be ok as they don’t typically require frame perfect inputs and there’s a lot more wiggle room for latency.

That, and what Taernath said.

[Taernath]

LOL but what will be included in the free catalogues ? My guess is games like what PSN and Xbox offers, old games and indies.

I missed this earlier. I played Rage 2, Metro Exodus, and Outer Worlds via Xbox's Game Pass. Those all are AAA, recent releases. Then you also have access to MS' first party stuff like Forza, Gears, and Halo. PS Plus has some great stuff, too.

Stadia has.... a puzzle game on launch I guess? They are going to get crushed if they don't at least do something similar.

[Taernath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6pf988yFSc

[Murrandii]

I watched the video… damn

You guys are right, if they can't fix that, that will be a killer.

I know in TI, they put QoS (EF) via dedicated vpn to assure traffic routes but I'm guessing it will drastically increase monthly charges.

As for now, I'm going to wait until we have a go, seriously… LOL

[Taernath]

Another thing to think about is cross-platform play. Without it, multiplayer is limited to those who bought the game on Stadia - and there need to be a ton of them otherwise it will be impossible to find a match. On the other hand, WITH cross-play someone on a console or PC playing MK11 will smoke a Stadia user if that lag is still present. They're in a really difficult position here and frankly I don't think Google has the game dev experience or balls to make it work.

[Taernath]

Google will no longer make games for Stadia (https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/tech/google-stadia-sge-shutdown/index.html)


(CNN Business)Google will stop making video games, less than two years after launching its highly publicized Stadia gaming platform.

The company is shutting down Stadia Games and Entertainment (SG&E), its internal game development service, Phil Harrison, Stadia's vice president and GM, announced in a blog post Monday.

"Creating best-in-class games from the ground up takes many years and significant investment, and the cost is going up exponentially," Harrison said. He added that the focus will now be on working with external developers to make their games available on Stadia.

"Over the coming months, most of the SG&E team will be moving on to new roles," he said.

Jade Raymond, the executive in charge of SG&E who previously worked at Sony (SNE), Electronic Arts (EA) and Ubisoft (UBSFF), will leave Google (GOOG) to "pursue other opportunities," Harrison added.

Games released by the unit in collaboration with Google's partners include "Gylt", "Outcasters" and "Submerged: Hidden Depths." Stadia had also created studios to develop games in-house that will now be shut down. Google did not comment on how many employees will be impacted by the closure.

Well, I'm surprised.

[Parkbandit]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/TEcDhtKS2QPqE/giphy.gif

[Bhaalizmo]

Meh.

Sega quit making systems, and only makes games. They're still around.

I'd imagine Stadia can stick around selling everyone else's games.

Cyberpunk plays pretty good on it.

[Teveriel]

It's lasted longer than I thought it would, honestly. But.. yeah. Stadia was pretty much destined to fail.

[Bhaalizmo]

It's lasted longer than I thought it would, honestly. But.. yeah. Stadia was pretty much destined to fail.

They haven't said anything about stopping the Stadia service as a whole, they're just not making their own games for it and will license titles from other game providers.

[Taernath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phm71yTQC4I

They start talking about Stadia ~14 minutes.

Losing first party support is bad optics, no matter how you feel about the system. I don't think being a storefront for 3rd party games will be enough to keep it going, especially as other companies make moves in cloud gaming themselves.

[Taernath]

Annnnd shutting down.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/29/23378713/google-stadia-shutting-down-game-streaming-january-2023


Google is shutting down Stadia, its cloud gaming service. The service will remain live for players until January 18th, 2023. Google will be refunding all Stadia hardware purchased through the Google Store as well as all the games and add-on content purchased from the Stadia store. Google expects those refunds will be completed in mid-January.

...

Google detailed some of the finer points of the shutdown in an FAQ. Refunds will automatically be made through the Google and Stadia stores, and you won’t have to return any hardware. Stadia Pro subscriptions will not be eligible for a refund, but you will not be charged during the shutdown period and can access games you might have redeemed as a Pro user until everything is wound down. Google has closed the Stadia store, so you can’t buy games or in-game transactions.

Props for refunding the people who bought in though.

[Alashir]

Annnnd shutting down.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/29/23378713/google-stadia-shutting-down-game-streaming-january-2023



Props for refunding the people who bought in though.

Big ups to google for returning the $20