View Full Version : 15.4m Postcap Wizard for Sale
Palantir
11-15-2019, 02:58 PM
Hi! I'm interested in selling my postcap wizard. You'll find most of his information below. Here are some bullet points of interest:
- 15.4m experience
- Unique Prename Title
- Comes with gear, including attuned items
- 1m lifetime bounty points, all three slots unlocked on badge with quite a few upgrades done
- CoL Master
- Has a Landing shop
- Perfect Stats
- Very appropriate name for RP
- Numerous alternative spellcasting messages
- Easily hunts Sanctum of Scales
- Excellent enchanter
- Fixskills available (December 1st reset for wizards)
- Male Sylvankind
- Price: $700, lowered due to new guilt by association High Maintenance Customer status (see policy 20), still comes with all that was included below at the pre-HMC $1400 price. Character transfer.
That said, here are the stats, as well as equipment and locker information...
Race: Sylvankind Profession: Wizard (shown as: Archmage)
Gender: Male Age: 1511 Expr: 15446861 Level: 100
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Constitution (CON): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Agility (AGI): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Discipline (DIS): 91 (15) ... 91 (15)
Aura (AUR): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Logic (LOG): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Intuition (INT): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Mana: 162
(at level 100), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 20 4
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 20 4
Physical Fitness...................| 201 101
Arcane Symbols.....................| 302 202
Magic Item Use.....................| 302 202
Spell Aiming.......................| 302 202
Harness Power......................| 302 202
Elemental Mana Control.............| 302 202
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 150 50
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 160 60
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 124 32
Elemental Lore - Water.............| 160 60
Survival...........................| 155 55
Perception.........................| 201 101
Climbing...........................| 160 60
Swimming...........................| 120 30
Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 116
Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 77
Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 110
Training Points: 10 Phy 0 Mnt (5942 Phy converted to Mnt)
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)
187 days remain until the annual FIXSKILLS is to be granted, on 05/20/2020.
your Adventurer's Guild information is as follows:
You currently have 21471 unspent bounty points.
You have accumulated a total of 1074719 lifetime bounty points.
You have 79 expedited task reassignment vouchers remaining.
You have succeeded at the Kill Creatures task 308 times.
You have succeeded at the Retrieve Heirloom task 289 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Skins task 8 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Gems task 199 times.
You have succeeded at the Protect Traveller task 30 times and failed 3 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Herbs task 415 times.
You have succeeded at the Kill Dangerous Creature task 299 times.
You have succeeded at the Rescue Child task 67 times and failed 14 times.
You have succeeded at the Kill Bandits task 3 times.
You have succeeded at the Help Kill Bandits task 6 times.
You've not been warned on the character X. You've been flagged as a high maintenance customer since Mon Nov 25 21:43:05 ET 2019. You're not being monitored for vulgarity. You haven't read the policy in full.
Moving on to the inventory, we have his gear and then locker contents. He comes with a LOT of great enhancives, as well as unique and sometimes attuned things.
You are wearing a fine deerskin charm neckpouch printed with copper glyphs, a gold-trimmed blue spidersilk greatcloak, a laje-bound gold badge tucked away in your clothing, a quintuple orb brooch tucked inside your leather buffcoat, some silver-insigiled moss green casting gloves, a small bone periapt, a tawny leather baldric slung over your shoulder, a dark leather buffcoat, a ghezyte chelioboros bracelet, a linked flame maple wristlet set with a pale golden fuchsia-tinged crystal, an enruned gold ring, a lor box, a dark leather scroll case, an archaic faenor dodecahedron, a pair of russet twill trousers, and a pair of old brown leather boots.
You rummage through a gold-trimmed blue spidersilk greatcloak and see a snake-etched pewter torc, an enruned aquamarine necklace, a glowing urven'eth potion, a dusty black leather spellbook, an undiluted green ayan'eth potion, a simple blue dreamstone pin, a bone-inlaid pewter band, a bone-inlaid white sunstone torc, an oval-cut dragonfire opal tiara, a fire pearl inset mithril ring, a crystal-set rosewood runestaff, a crystal-set rosewood runestaff, a crystal-set rosewood runestaff, a small dark wooden armoire, a diamond-set ora armband, an ora-bound white leather prayerbook, a long-stemmed fel pipe, a dark brown briar pipe, a silver crescent moon pendant, a gem-encrusted pewter stickpin, a sapphire-set gold alloy necklace, a burnished pewter crown, a soulstone inset eonake band, a plain amethyst earcuff, an opal-inset pewter medallion, a ruby amulet, a small statue, a cord-strung amber shard bracelet, a pearl-inlaid sandy brown wand, a pale golden fuchsia-tinged crystal, a pale golden fuchsia-tinged crystal, a pale golden fuchsia-tinged crystal, a pale golden fuchsia-tinged crystal, a fire pearl inset pewter necklace, a star-cut peridot buckle, a lesser mana-well potion, a blue bubbling potion, a grot t'kel potion, a mist-swirled glass eyeball talisman, a dull silvery bloodrune, a malachite-set mithril ring, a beryl-inset pewter ring, a fine ora ring, a step-cut dragonfire opal ring, a slim silver bracelet, an kneeling figure pin, a thin gold ring, a bright gold ring, a dingy bronze compass, a small bone periapt, a small white jade-rimmed mirror, a glass bottle, a smeared scroll and a shop manifest.
Locker Contents:
Thinking back, you recall the contents of your locker in Ta'Illistim:
1 a verdigris copper keyring
2 an old mithril aventail (registered) (marked)
3 a mist-swirled glass eyeball talisman
4 a jade-inlaid amethyst earcuff (marked)
5 a miniature airship-shaped box (marked)
6 a pair of grey elesine pants
7 a sturdy hoarbeam fishing rod with colorful painted accents
a small lump of grey meat
a small mithril weight
8 a gold-trimmed dark bronze torc
9 a dragonmist crystal shard wrapped in platinum caging
10 a crystallized troll eye amulet
11 a rectangular mold of clay
12 a rectangular mold of clay
13 a rectangular mold of clay
14 a rectangular mold of clay
15 a festive blue banner embroidered with a golden hawk (marked)
16 a heavy leather harness
17 an ora-chained dark obelisk crystal
18 a battered tin tip cup
19 a thin silver crystal pendant
20 a cracked open glaes spider charm
21 a gold-edged white moonstone pendant (marked)
22 a witchwood trunk
Obvious items: 24
Specific Gear Information:
Dark leather buffcoat (fulls) - 5x DCP (90 crit services / 7 CER)
Scratched orase runestaff - 4x, impact flares, +8 spell aiming bonus
Fusion runestaff - +4 dex bonus, +3 spell aiming bonus
Step-cut dragonfire opal ring - ME 1711
Bone-inlaid pewter band - ME 1711
Gem-encrusted pewter stickpin - ME 1712
Fire-pearl inset pewter necklace - MR 603
Star-cut peridot buckle - MR Manna
Oval-cut dragonfire opal tiara - ME Soul Ward
Brushed pewter crown - ME 303
Plain amethyst earcuff - ME 712
Soulstone inset eonake band - ME 606
Beryl-inset pewter ring - MR Dragonclaw
Bone-inlaid white starstone torc - 506 imbed, +5 HP bonus, +7 EL:F bonus, +4 AGI bonus, +3 EMC bonus, crumbly
Star emerald studded ora bracelet - +2 spell aiming, +1 emc, +2 survival ranks
Mist-swirled glass eyeball talisman - +2 spell aiming ranks
Cushion-cut smoky topaz necklace - +2 spell aiming bonus, +2 blessings bonus
Wand belt - +2 miu, +2 spell aiming
Black coral brooch x 2 - +8 max mana
Gold-fluted blue velvet vest - +5 dex
Mithril aventail - +4 AUR, +3 PP ranks
Dreamstone band - +3 aura stat
Red dreamstone talisman - +4 spell aiming?
Chased imflass crown - blank MR reimbeddable, +3 spell aiming bonus, +6 MIU bonus, +6 EMC bonus, crumbly
Enruned aquamarine necklace - +3 fire, +3 air, +1 earth bonuses, crumbly.
Bone-inlaid white sunstone torc - +5 HP bonus, +7 EL:F bonus, +4 AGI bonus, +3 EMC bonus, crumbly
Diamond armband: +5 EMC
simple blue dreamstone pin - +2 fire bonus, crumbly
fire pearl inset mithril ring - +5 earth lore bonus
fine ora ring - +5 water bonus
Gold alloy necklace - +1 aura, +2 MIU
That should cover most of it
The ironwood staff is 4x metamorphic, with three sides
Has a mirtokh potion, which will provide three weeks of enchanting essence (whenever they implement that)
Casting gloves are the ones with the bajillion scripts
Spellbook has good zests
He also has an attuned spider pet with ambients
If you have any questions, please PM! I'm around most of the day.
BriarFox
11-15-2019, 04:16 PM
I've done business with this fellow. He's legit and prompt.
Khelbaen
11-15-2019, 04:57 PM
Seconded
GSIV Rogue
11-16-2019, 02:13 AM
Race: Sylvankind Profession: Wizard (shown as: Archmage)
Gender: Male Age: 1511 Expr: 15446861 Level: 100
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Constitution (CON): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Agility (AGI): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Discipline (DIS): 91 (15) ... 91 (15)
Aura (AUR): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Logic (LOG): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Intuition (INT): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Mana: 162
Bump.
Best stats I've seen on any character in a very long time. Nice to see someone knows how to min-max properly.
Palantir
11-16-2019, 02:03 PM
Just to note since the question has come up: I am not selling his gear or enhancives separately. It's all part of the one sale. Thanks for asking. :)
I'll be around today for any PMs.
Palantir
11-17-2019, 01:34 PM
Daily bump! I'm around for PMs. :)
Palantir
11-17-2019, 05:14 PM
Update: Weekend special! For today only, price drop to $1500. Nab him while he's discounted. :)
Hemlock
11-17-2019, 06:14 PM
Call it black Sunday!
Palantir
11-18-2019, 11:29 AM
Daily bump! The sale is over, character's back to regular price. I'll let him sit for a bit, but he'll be taken off the market if he doesn't find a buyer. :)
Murrandii
11-18-2019, 12:35 PM
WHY SHOULD I BUY THIS MORE PRICED WIZ THAN THE REGULAR FRESH CAP WIZ THAT ARE AROUND 700-800$
Easy answer: Cause he has items.
Long answers: Cause fresh cap wiz can enchant at maxed 900. It's doable. They can enchant at 1x 900 too.
But it'd be tedious and hard with all the changes to 925. You are forced to make decisions.
This mage make you decides LESS heartbreaking stuff AND can do ANOTHER PROFESSION as well.
What?
Max him with picking and disarm, 76 ranks in 400 and VOILA, you get an enchanter AND a picker for like 95% of boxes. And with 535, this mage will pick like a machine.
You want to farm? 1X in survival, first aid and trade is ALSO possible. VOILA! Bang, an enchanter, a picker and a farmer.
You want him to be a mutant 900er? 3X in 900? But with a fresh capped, you'll die a lot!
OH, but with this mage, you can 1x in Brawl, 1x in shield get some CM and VOILA, you can hunt better and stop dying like fresh capped wiz you'd buy.
This mage will make your gemstone experience like the 1% plays
malmuddy
11-18-2019, 01:00 PM
- 1m lifetime bounty points, fully unlocked badge
Probably not a deal breaker for anybody interested, but I believe this statement is untrue. You need 2,750,000 (550K each for 5 parts of the badge) to fully unlock an adventurer's guild badge.
Good luck with the sale.
Palantir
11-18-2019, 03:32 PM
Probably not a deal breaker for anybody interested, but I believe this statement is untrue. You need 2,750,000 (550K each for 5 parts of the badge) to fully unlock an adventurer's guild badge.
Good luck with the sale.
Forgive the lack of clarity. I meant that all three slots are unlocked. It is not fully upgraded, though it has been upgraded quite a ways. I'll edit the original post to clear that up.
Palantir
11-18-2019, 03:45 PM
WHY SHOULD I BUY THIS MORE PRICED WIZ THAN THE REGULAR FRESH CAP WIZ THAT ARE AROUND 700-800$
Thank you for the supportive post and the many ideas on how he could be changed to suit different playstyles! Fortunately, with wizards getting a fixskills reset on the 1st, buyers will be able to change him in whatever way they like at that time.
I'd also point out that he has about twice as much experience as those $800 freshly capped wizards, generally speaking. Twice the character, another good reason to buy. :)
Palantir
11-19-2019, 04:21 PM
Daily bump! Send me your PMs with questions or to buy! Maybe taking reasonable cash counter offers, but not by much difference. :)
Palantir
11-20-2019, 02:15 PM
Daily bump! PM me at your leisure, great wizard ready to do wizarding.
Palantir
11-20-2019, 03:03 PM
PS: Breaking News! Price drop to $1400. It'll be the one and only drop, so if you wanted this great wizard at a cheaper price, here's your opportunity. I'd like to move him along. PM me if you're interested!
Palantir
11-21-2019, 01:06 PM
Daily bump! He's still available, now at his newly lowered price. I'll probably give it another week before pulling him from the market. Send me a PM to buy or ask any questions!
Palantir
11-22-2019, 02:06 PM
Daily bump! The good old wizard's still seeking a good home for now. SEnd me a PM to buy or ask questions!
zephyrii
11-23-2019, 02:55 AM
Bump.
Best stats I've seen on any character in a very long time. Nice to see someone knows how to min-max properly.
Actually very curious on this point. I thought most sylvan wiz would prefer either:
Strength (STR): 100
Constitution (CON): 100
Dexterity (DEX): 100
Agility (AGI): 98
Discipline (DIS): 100
Aura (AUR): 100
Logic (LOG): 100
Intuition (INT): 100
Wisdom (WIS): 100
Influence (INF): 91
or
Strength (STR): 100
Constitution (CON): 100
Dexterity (DEX): 100
Agility (AGI): 100
Discipline (DIS): 100
Aura (AUR): 100
Logic (LOG): 100
Intuition (INT): 100
Wisdom (WIS): 98
Influence (INF): 91
never seen a build that went up INF to trade off the DISC instead. Any other opinions on comparing these 3 stat options?
BriarFox
11-23-2019, 07:52 AM
Why would you sacrifice DS (AGI) or Spirit TD (WIS) for DIS?
zephyrii
11-23-2019, 08:32 AM
The diminishing returns on AGI for SMRv2, from testing, showed something like +40 agi enhancives gives like a +2 bonus to the roll, a -2 on AGI is almost nothing esp since sylvans already get +5 bonus. A loss of 9 DISC seems like quite a bit of a tradeoff comparatively.
BriarFox
11-23-2019, 09:25 AM
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. DIS is not particularly useful for a wizard. DS and Spirit TD would be more important to me.
GSIV Rogue
11-23-2019, 10:46 AM
Actually very curious on this point. I thought most sylvan wiz would prefer either:
Strength (STR): 100
Constitution (CON): 100
Dexterity (DEX): 100
Agility (AGI): 98
Discipline (DIS): 100
Aura (AUR): 100
Logic (LOG): 100
Intuition (INT): 100
Wisdom (WIS): 100
Influence (INF): 91
or
Strength (STR): 100
Constitution (CON): 100
Dexterity (DEX): 100
Agility (AGI): 100
Discipline (DIS): 100
Aura (AUR): 100
Logic (LOG): 100
Intuition (INT): 100
Wisdom (WIS): 98
Influence (INF): 91
never seen a build that went up INF to trade off the DISC instead. Any other opinions on comparing these 3 stat options?
Decent options as well. I like to see stats that are more maximized and well balanced vs. tanking 1 stat.
Different strokes for different folks
This.
PS - Bump!
Palantir
11-23-2019, 12:55 PM
Daily bump! I'm around for PMs if you'd like to buy or ask any questions.
As for his stats, all I can say is that they work for me, very well. BriarFox makes the big points, though! :)
Palantir
11-23-2019, 06:20 PM
Character still for sale, especially as my GS issues were resolved and I'm sticking around! PM me if you'd like him! Great character!
Palantir
11-24-2019, 12:21 PM
Daily bump! Awesome wizard for sale, I'm around all day, send me your PMs to buy or ask any questions!
zephyrii
11-24-2019, 02:19 PM
I don't want to rain on your parade too much but since you keep bumping and pressing for a sale, maybe you should consider dropping the price some more.
I've seen 25m exp wizards go for around 1k, a lot less than this...
Palantir
11-24-2019, 07:45 PM
I don't want to rain on your parade too much but since you keep bumping and pressing for a sale, maybe you should consider dropping the price some more.
I've seen 25m exp wizards go for around 1k, a lot less than this...
I try to only bump once a day (and I only do so again to reply to this), but I'm content with my price. Actually, I started higher than where it is now, and I gratefully received a lot of support at that time. I've also offered sales lower than where he is now, and I'm content to wait. A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He sells precisely when he means to!
Methais
11-25-2019, 11:34 AM
I don't want to rain on your parade too much but since you keep bumping and pressing for a sale, maybe you should consider dropping the price some more.
I've seen 25m exp wizards go for around 1k, a lot less than this...
The price seems ok. It's probably more likely that people want to buy either just the wizard or just the item(s), but not the whole package.
Palantir
11-25-2019, 12:57 PM
Bump! The Holiday/Sunday sale is over, but the wizard is still for sale! Feel free to send those PMs, I'm back around for the day.
Palantir
11-25-2019, 10:03 PM
Account was infected with High Maintenance Customer status by relation. I know, guilt by association and without notice, fair.
Anyway. If you want a 15.4m wizard who carries HMC status, I am clearly divulging the change in policy status and reducing the price to $900. He still comes with everything that was offered on the pre-HMC $1400 price. PM to claim. Thanks.
BriarFox
11-25-2019, 11:27 PM
Account was infected with High Maintenance Customer status by relation. I know, guilt by association and without notice, fair.
Anyway. If you want a 15.4m wizard who carries HMC status, I am clearly divulging the change in policy status and reducing the price to $900. He still comes with everything that was offered on the pre-HMC $1400 price. PM to claim. Thanks.
Well, that sucks. Solid price drop, though.
Sile2
11-26-2019, 12:10 AM
Account was infected with High Maintenance Customer status by relation. I know, guilt by association and without notice, fair.
What does this actually do in context of gemstone?
Also, like briar said, solid price drop, dont think it'll last long at this price.
Palantir
11-26-2019, 12:28 AM
What does this actually do in context of gemstone?
Also, like briar said, solid price drop, dont think it'll last long at this price.
You can read Policy 20 if you want the whole spiel on what it does. Basically, though, someone in your household annoyed a GM or something to that effect. If you happen to share a home with that person and log in from the same location? You've got it, too, even if you're personally innocent. You can't become a mentor/Host/GM/Great House officer/leader in another GM-operated group. It's permanent, can never be removed once assigned.
Sile2
11-26-2019, 12:33 AM
That seems pretty vindictive by the gm that applied it.
Sorry to hear. I still think your character will sell
Jymamon
11-26-2019, 01:01 AM
Full text of Policy 20 (emphasis mine):
GemStone IV Player Policy: High Maintenance Guests
In certain situations, the overall pattern of behavior on an account or a set of linked accounts may be determined to be disruptive or abusive, even if not one single act clearly violates any specific policy.
Simutronics reserves the right to determine what patterns of behavior are defined as "high-maintenance" or "disruptive" and may take action against the account(s). High maintenance customers (HMC) will be consulted on a case-by-case scenario.
High maintenance customers (HMC) can become locked out for the following activities:
* Continued disruptive behavior in game, on the forums, or on the wiki.
* Any in-game violation of policy or forum violation beyond a notification.
* High volume of assists, reports, and emails.
HMC status may also hinder the ability of getting timely assistance and responses from both onsite and offsite staff. HMC cannot hold a position of leadership such as an officer in an MHO, CHE, or other GM maintained group. They cannot be mentors, GameHosts, GameMaster, or any form of moderator.
Once a player is flagged as HMC, it is a permanent decision on all linked accounts, even if the account transfers hands.
which makes me wonder if it would really follow the character. It sounds in my (not official) opinion that transferring the whole account to (the proverbial) your billing information might be bad but that receiving a character transfer might not.
If someone is really interested but hesitant to purchase, I'd suggest Discord/the officials/e-mail Wyrom directly to ask.
I don't know what you did, but I love simu's heavy handed policies like they're EA or something... not at all concerned with retaining the last 11 paying customers.
Methais
11-26-2019, 10:19 AM
You can read Policy 20 if you want the whole spiel on what it does. Basically, though, someone in your household annoyed a GM or something to that effect. If you happen to share a home with that person and log in from the same location? You've got it, too, even if you're personally innocent. You can't become a mentor/Host/GM/Great House officer/leader in another GM-operated group. It's permanent, can never be removed once assigned.
Should try hitting up Wyrom directly. He might be able to do something about it. He's pretty reasonable when it comes to handling issues that are actually bullshit.
Palantir
11-26-2019, 10:46 AM
That seems pretty vindictive by the gm that applied it.
Sorry to hear. I still think your character will sell
I certainly hope that it does. This hit my mom's account, too. She's been playing GS with me since I was a kid, and now she helps me every day due to physical disability. She's had multiple heart attacks, herself. Getting the mark simply due to her location of play has taken opportunities from her. Mom still wants to play GS even though she's upset, so I hold out hope for a sale so that I can get her an item I know would cheer her up. This character sale wouldn't get me enough at its newly reduced price, but it's a start.
Palantir
11-26-2019, 10:50 AM
Full text of Policy 20 (emphasis mine):
which makes me wonder if it would really follow the character. It sounds in my (not official) opinion that transferring the whole account to (the proverbial) your billing information might be bad but that receiving a character transfer might not.
If someone is really interested but hesitant to purchase, I'd suggest Discord/the officials/e-mail Wyrom directly to ask.
I wasn't clear on the policy language regarding *character* transfers either, but as of this moment, the policy review is no longer clear as it was when I started selling the character. I didn't want to take the risk of assuming and end up messing up someone elses' account by not being upfront about it. If a buyer doesn't care about what the policy takes away (and I know many wouldn't) then they're still getting one heck of a great character. As said above, I'd like to take these funds and somehow find more to get my mom an item that'd cheer her up. She got hit by this, as well.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
11-26-2019, 10:51 AM
People getting labeled HMC are incredibly rare. FFS Vif and Warclaidhm ran around for YEARS before it was given to them.
Just saying.
Palantir
11-26-2019, 11:00 AM
People getting labeled HMC are incredibly rare. FFS Vif and Warclaidhm ran around for YEARS before it was given to them.
Just saying.
Just for emphasis, guilt by association, as I said. The account received it due to being under the same roof as the person who actually earned it. If you were a guest at my house for a week and they saw you playing from here? You'd get it, as well. There's no forgiveness about it for anyone.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
11-26-2019, 11:06 AM
Just for emphasis, guilt by association, as I said. The account received it due to being under the same roof as the person who actually earned it. If you were a guest at my house for a week and they saw you playing from here? You'd get it, as well. There's no forgiveness about it for anyone.
We'll just have to take your word for it.
I'm not trying to harsh your sale, I personally don't think a HMC tag would matter to anyone who isn't a HMC. My point, as a former GM, is they do not hand out HMC violations willy nilly, it's incredibly difficult to get flagged as one and lots of people weigh in - and it takes a senior GM to dole it out.
Palantir
11-26-2019, 11:14 AM
We'll just have to take your word for it.
I'm not trying to harsh your sale, I personally don't think a HMC tag would matter to anyone who isn't a HMC. My point, as a former GM, is they do not hand out HMC violations willy nilly, it's incredibly difficult to get flagged as one and lots of people weigh in - and it takes a senior GM to dole it out.
I hope that someone does choose to buy the character. For anyone who doesn't care about what HMC takes away, he remains an awesome purchase, especially at this reduced price. I can't speak as to their thinking about their decisions, but my mom and I have both played for over twenty years with spotless records prior to this.
EDIT: Dropping it down to $700. Happy Thanksgiving and Black Friday and all that. This is as low as it'll ever go, and less than its value even with the new HMC policy review in my opinion, so don't wait on any future discounts. :)
Palantir
11-28-2019, 01:57 PM
A holiday bump! Happy Thanksgiving to one and all. :) Feel free to PM if you'd like the mage, I'll be around.
Palantir
11-29-2019, 02:00 PM
Black Friday bump! Wizard still for sale, still includes all the goodies and a few new things since posted. Maybe even a wee discount for the yearly shopping spree. PM me, I'll be here. :)
Palantir
11-30-2019, 01:22 PM
Bump! Still selling, please feel free to PM me.
Someone was interested in buying, but they PM'd me saying they'd reconsidered after emailing feedback and being told that the HMC punishment travels to other things linked by identity/location/etc. That's how I received it,guilt by association. So, to be absolutely clear again, typing Policy 20 in-game will show you everything HMC does. Biggest impact is if you want to be game staff or a leader in a GM-operated organization.
Murrandii
11-30-2019, 02:17 PM
I think everyone and his dog will tell you that for the lost of half the value you set for you account, you SHOULD call back and get it solved, considering you are saying it's by association.
Nobody wants that flaw, it's a BIG red flag. Understand most people bigshot post cap since it'S so tedious. Being HMC = ALL YOU CHARACTERS are on the top list of getting script checked.
It'S a big NO.
You end up HIV infected, all your work, EVERYTHING is losing value. You get in an issue with a player? BANG, you're are wrong de facto cause of the flag in the eyes of a GM or GH. You lost an item, you got shafted? BANG, reference queues are being unfair with you.
Seriously man, consider stopping your sale and solving this issue ASAP. In the meantime, sell the stuff separate (no flag on em).
Palantir
11-30-2019, 03:58 PM
Seriously man, consider stopping your sale and solving this issue ASAP. In the meantime, sell the stuff separate (no flag on em).
I did stop the sale, but I resumed it (at $900 before going half price, coincidentally, as you said - people said it was a solid price drop at $900) at the encouragement of some veteran big value sellers here. They felt there were people who would still want the character. I'm not selling my account, just this character. Need the money for other things.
As for getting it solved, it can't be. I tried talking to them. They say once it's there, it's there, that's it. Even if you did nothing wrong personally, just "caught" the punishment by association. There's no forgiveness. I think guilt by association as a policy is a bit BS, but what can you do? I'd rather not voice the association because it's family but you can PM me if you want to know. Suffice to say, it was unavoidable and the fact that we had accounts clean of punishment back to the 90s meant nothing. The only consolation was the admission that our accounts had no negative marks on them and we shouldn't expect any mistreatment, we were just collateral damage.
As to the rest of your statements about how we'll be treated in response to various situations, I can only say that I've personally had no such problems. As I was told, we wouldn't be mistreated and we just had it by bad luck. Play has continued unimpeded except for the ability to mentor/host/GM or be a GH/CHE leader.
Methais
11-30-2019, 04:44 PM
I did stop the sale, but I resumed it (at $900 before going half price, coincidentally, as you said - people said it was a solid price drop at $900) at the encouragement of some veteran big value sellers here. They felt there were people who would still want the character. I'm not selling my account, just this character. Need the money for other things.
As for getting it solved, it can't be. I tried talking to them. They say once it's there, it's there, that's it. Even if you did nothing wrong personally, just "caught" the punishment by association. There's no forgiveness. I think guilt by association as a policy is a bit BS, but what can you do? I'd rather not voice the association because it's family but you can PM me if you want to know. Suffice to say, it was unavoidable and the fact that we had accounts clean of punishment back to the 90s meant nothing. The only consolation was the admission that our accounts had no negative marks on them and we shouldn't expect any mistreatment, we were just collateral damage.
As to the rest of your statements about how we'll be treated in response to various situations, I can only say that I've personally had no such problems. As I was told, we wouldn't be mistreated and we just had it by bad luck. Play has continued unimpeded except for the ability to mentor/host/GM or be a GH/CHE leader.
If that really is the way it went down, that you got flagged as HMC because someone else on a completely separate unlinked account just happened to log in from the same location as you, then you should totally go to Simucon next year, wait for everyone to log into GS, assuming they still have a room with PCs in it at the hotel for people to use, then go log in and infect everyone at Simucon with HMC status.
Palantir
11-30-2019, 04:58 PM
If that really is the way it went down, that you got flagged as HMC because someone else on a completely separate unlinked account just happened to log in from the same location as you, then you should totally go to Simucon next year, wait for everyone to log into GS, assuming they still have a room with PCs in it at the hotel for people to use, then go log in and infect everyone at Simucon with HMC status.
I'm sure they would realize people were at Simucon and this wouldn't happen, but it's a good example of how it happens everywhere else. You can ask the potential buyer who unfortunately backed away after talking to feedback, or you can read Policy 20. If you are connected in any way to the HMC account, even if it's just logging in from the same IP address and nothing else, you get the flag. Period. I'm not clear if the same is true of just characters (my sale is a character transfer, not account) but it may be.
Having said that, again, they've been true to their assurance that our clean records going back decades were indeed clean and we wouldn't be mistreated. I still think it's BS, particularly in our situation where getting it was very unavoidable, but they just won't change it. I've gone from making a query about it to making pleas and offering proof to back up the reasoning. Even my account credentials and payment method are different. Doesn't matter. Once you're HMC, you're HMC.
It is not, however, proving to be the utter disaster area that was alleged by the earlier poster.
Methais
11-30-2019, 05:00 PM
You should still try it at Simucon for lulz.
Palantir
12-01-2019, 01:06 PM
I'm online and selling a wizard, now with more cool stuff! PM me if you're interested. :)
Palantir
12-02-2019, 12:49 PM
Bump. I'm here, I've got a wizard. Send me a PM if you'd like to buy him, please! Offers not far off the mark will be considered.
People have inquired about my selling his stuff and shop, but that doesn't get me the bare minimum funds I need. Doing so also devalues the character sale itself. I appreciate the interest, though.
Methais
12-02-2019, 01:06 PM
Bump. I'm here, I've got a wizard. Send me a PM if you'd like to buy him, please! Offers not far off the mark will be considered.
People have inquired about my selling his stuff and shop, but that doesn't get me the bare minimum funds I need. Doing so also devalues the character sale itself. I appreciate the interest, though.
Thing is most people don't want to buy a character + a bunch of stuff. Most either want the stuff, or the character, but usually not both, so you're probably slowing your own sale down by insisting on a package deal.
So HMC spreads like herpes even if you just do a char transfer?
Methais
12-02-2019, 02:48 PM
So HMC spreads like herpes even if you just do a char transfer?
Apparently even if you log in from the same location as another account. Or something.
BriarFox
12-02-2019, 03:03 PM
I have a feeling if you just stick this wizard on a separate account, maybe on a different credit card, you'll be fine. I really, really doubt that Simu's out pulling IP addresses and matching up usernames unless something gives them a red flag. Just a guess, of course.
Hemlock
12-02-2019, 03:10 PM
^ It’s worth a shot. If it works you stand to regain much of what you lost.
Murrandii
12-02-2019, 03:27 PM
I have a feeling if you just stick this wizard on a separate account, maybe on a different credit card, you'll be fine. I really, really doubt that Simu's out pulling IP addresses and matching up usernames unless something gives them a red flag. Just a guess, of course.
TAke a damn vpn, separate CC and BANG, problem solved.
Palantir
12-02-2019, 03:35 PM
TAke a damn vpn, separate CC and BANG, problem solved.
My impression is that the HMC tag follows the character wherever it goes. I'm not sure and I can't financially afford to test it.
I still say it isn't the end of the world for most players who aren't interested in the roles being HMC takes away. They admitted my account was clean otherwise, guilt by association, and I should report any mistreatment based upon HMC to feedback.
Murrandii
12-02-2019, 03:59 PM
My impression is that the HMC tag follows the character wherever it goes. I'm not sure and I can't financially afford to test it.
I still say it isn't the end of the world for most players who aren't interested in the roles being HMC takes away. They admitted my account was clean otherwise, guilt by association, and I should report any mistreatment based upon HMC to feedback.
No bro, you can'T say that and that's what we're telling you. From one part of the mouth, you say it's BAD enough to cut the price by two and from the other part of the mouth you say it's no big deal.
Being HMC means, per policy 20:
High maintenance customers (HMC) can become locked out for the following activities:
* Continued disruptive behavior in game, on the forums, or on the wiki.
* Any in-game violation of policy or forum violation beyond a notification.
* High volume of assists, reports, and emails.
HMC status may also hinder the ability of getting timely assistance and responses from both onsite and offsite staff. HMC cannot hold a position of leadership such as an officer in an MHO, CHE, or other GM maintained group. They cannot be mentors, GameHosts, GameMaster, or any form of moderator.
That also means being flag bro, stop saying it'S just about roles, IT'S NOT TRUE. For everyone knowing a bit, it means having TWO strikes already. It means being on top of the list if something is wrong, it means you are de facto wrong in the eyes of SIMU in case of ANY problems INCLUDING other players since you have the WORST flag ever, HMC.
You can get LOCKED cause of the flag directly, bro if something bad happen and the GM is pissed cause he didn't had his love night before.
You cannot take a financial risk of around 10$ to get a vpn and solve this issue but you risk cutting your price in 2. That sounds fishy.
For most of us that make money out of this game, the risk is too high AND for most of us, it sounds fishy AND risky.
1 + 1 = no go
Stop, sell the items, profit from em, buy a vpn for a month, move your account and ASK and DEMAND the flag removed. Then sell.
Or keep on lowering your offer until it'S just a fraction bro.
Realk
12-02-2019, 04:43 PM
i thought the bro thing, had to stay in game... it's expanded. outside of the vpn, i wonder if buying a prepaid visa card and using the name Mc Loving as the billing info would work.
Methais
12-02-2019, 05:02 PM
So I did some asking around, and HMC characters can only affect the account it's on and any linked accounts. There's no herpes-like HMC feature that will infect unlinked accounts just from logging in at the same location.
Realk
12-02-2019, 05:13 PM
so no more simu con event? why did your family pay for your accounts? did you get caught in the 925 situation...
lutikajuststop
12-02-2019, 05:54 PM
OP is a habitual, unrepentant liar. He and he alone earned his HMC status. He has been banned from the official Discord server, player-run servers, and personally blocked by GMs on Discord as well. He harasses players in game and begs for donations or loans of items or money that he then turns around and tries to sell. He cried to GMs and Wyrom over and over about not getting what he wanted from DSD at EG and tried to get Annanasi fired by misrepresenting a conversation they had. His "mother" playing was his lame attempt to circumvent the HMC tag, but it didn't work. He do we know? He cannot keep his his facades for long and soon falls back into his distinct style of speaking or interacting. I know of players who have resorted to immediate warn interacts when they discover his latest new character in order to avoid dealing with him.
He has been told in no uncertain terms he is not welcome in several groups but will never stop crying and begging to be given one more chance, only to revert to the same patterns and behaviors. He begged for GoAs to play for his accounts because he says he is disabled and unable to pay for his Gemstone subscriptions, only to suddenly have hundreds (or thousands) of dollars to spend at EG. When he suffers the consequences for his actions, he cries about being bullied and blames other players for physically making him sicker because they do not want to have anything to do with him.
You may recognize from on the official Discord server as Graka, before he got banned. His "mother", Galadriel, soon appeared. Then it was Arcanum. Now it's LordLootington.
Do not deal with him.
Murrandii
12-02-2019, 06:05 PM
OP is a habitual, unrepentant liar. He and he alone earned his HMC status. He has been banned from the official Discord server, player-run servers, and personally blocked by GMs on Discord as well. He harasses players in game and begs for donations or loans of items or money that he then turns around and tries to sell. He cried to GMs and Wyrom over and over about not getting what he wanted from DSD at EG and tried to get Annanasi fired by misrepresenting a conversation they had. His "mother" playing was his lame attempt to circumvent the HMC tag, but it didn't work. He do we know? He cannot keep his his facades for long and soon falls back into his distinct style of speaking or interacting. I know of players who have resorted to immediate warn interacts when they discover his latest new character in order to avoid dealing with him.
He has been told in no uncertain terms he is not welcome in several groups but will never stop crying and begging to be given one more chance, only to revert to the same patterns and behaviors. He begged for GoAs to play for his accounts because he says he is disabled and unable to pay for his Gemstone subscriptions, only to suddenly have hundreds (or thousands) of dollars to spend at EG. When he suffers the consequences for his actions, he cries about being bullied and blames other players for physically making him sicker because they do not want to have anything to do with him.
You may recognize from on the official Discord server as Graka, before he got banned. His "mother", Galadriel, soon appeared. Then it was Arcanum. Now it's LordLootington.
Do not deal with him.
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OP is a habitual, unrepentant liar. He and he alone earned his HMC status. He has been banned from the official Discord server, player-run servers, and personally blocked by GMs on Discord as well. He harasses players in game and begs for donations or loans of items or money that he then turns around and tries to sell. He cried to GMs and Wyrom over and over about not getting what he wanted from DSD at EG and tried to get Annanasi fired by misrepresenting a conversation they had. His "mother" playing was his lame attempt to circumvent the HMC tag, but it didn't work. He do we know? He cannot keep his his facades for long and soon falls back into his distinct style of speaking or interacting. I know of players who have resorted to immediate warn interacts when they discover his latest new character in order to avoid dealing with him.
He has been told in no uncertain terms he is not welcome in several groups but will never stop crying and begging to be given one more chance, only to revert to the same patterns and behaviors. He begged for GoAs to play for his accounts because he says he is disabled and unable to pay for his Gemstone subscriptions, only to suddenly have hundreds (or thousands) of dollars to spend at EG. When he suffers the consequences for his actions, he cries about being bullied and blames other players for physically making him sicker because they do not want to have anything to do with him.
You may recognize from on the official Discord server as Graka, before he got banned. His "mother", Galadriel, soon appeared. Then it was Arcanum. Now it's LordLootington.
Do not deal with him.
While this thread is gone to shit, why make a new account on here just to post this?
I mean if what you say is true, you shouldn't be afraid to post this on an account that has some history on here.
As it stands we have one new account, who had some high profile vouchers, trying to sell a character with some red flags. While it dont all add up, the sale seems to be pretty transparent.
And now a new account made today to just shit all over the thread. While your accusations may be true. The fact your account is also new, makes it harder to take at face value.
One thing is for sure. I'd say all potential buyers are backed off by now. I was one and while I dont care about most of the things that HMC does to you. I always tried to fly under the radar when it comes to in game conflicts.
My question is, who are you in game? I've been gone awhile but strong accusations should have someone with some rep to back it up
Lilynn
12-02-2019, 06:46 PM
OP is a habitual, unrepentant liar. He and he alone earned his HMC status. He has been banned from the official Discord server, player-run servers, and personally blocked by GMs on Discord as well. He harasses players in game and begs for donations or loans of items or money that he then turns around and tries to sell. He cried to GMs and Wyrom over and over about not getting what he wanted from DSD at EG and tried to get Annanasi fired by misrepresenting a conversation they had. His "mother" playing was his lame attempt to circumvent the HMC tag, but it didn't work. He do we know? He cannot keep his his facades for long and soon falls back into his distinct style of speaking or interacting. I know of players who have resorted to immediate warn interacts when they discover his latest new character in order to avoid dealing with him.
He has been told in no uncertain terms he is not welcome in several groups but will never stop crying and begging to be given one more chance, only to revert to the same patterns and behaviors. He begged for GoAs to play for his accounts because he says he is disabled and unable to pay for his Gemstone subscriptions, only to suddenly have hundreds (or thousands) of dollars to spend at EG. When he suffers the consequences for his actions, he cries about being bullied and blames other players for physically making him sicker because they do not want to have anything to do with him.
You may recognize from on the official Discord server as Graka, before he got banned. His "mother", Galadriel, soon appeared. Then it was Arcanum. Now it's LordLootington.
Do not deal with him.
While I may not be a long-time member and only have posted a handful of times, I can say what this person has posted I've witnessed as well. Not going to say much more because I feel this post has summed up what's been experienced well enough. But I did want to offer support in this issue.
audioserf
12-02-2019, 06:55 PM
OP is a habitual, unrepentant liar. He and he alone earned his HMC status. He has been banned from the official Discord server, player-run servers, and personally blocked by GMs on Discord as well. He harasses players in game and begs for donations or loans of items or money that he then turns around and tries to sell. He cried to GMs and Wyrom over and over about not getting what he wanted from DSD at EG and tried to get Annanasi fired by misrepresenting a conversation they had. His "mother" playing was his lame attempt to circumvent the HMC tag, but it didn't work. He do we know? He cannot keep his his facades for long and soon falls back into his distinct style of speaking or interacting. I know of players who have resorted to immediate warn interacts when they discover his latest new character in order to avoid dealing with him.
He has been told in no uncertain terms he is not welcome in several groups but will never stop crying and begging to be given one more chance, only to revert to the same patterns and behaviors. He begged for GoAs to play for his accounts because he says he is disabled and unable to pay for his Gemstone subscriptions, only to suddenly have hundreds (or thousands) of dollars to spend at EG. When he suffers the consequences for his actions, he cries about being bullied and blames other players for physically making him sicker because they do not want to have anything to do with him.
You may recognize from on the official Discord server as Graka, before he got banned. His "mother", Galadriel, soon appeared. Then it was Arcanum. Now it's LordLootington.
Do not deal with him.
Even if every word of this is true you are a coward, lol
Realk
12-02-2019, 07:33 PM
Every time some body talks about how small the player base is or how many real players there are... use something like this for reference of... more than you think are around.
gemstonefella
12-02-2019, 07:49 PM
The name will automatically link it to any new account regardless of anything that is done to try and circumvent it.
Murrandii
12-02-2019, 08:09 PM
GS community is pretty tight. If you did something wrong and come clean, you'll get pardon fast.
If you deny (like bait / Carolanne with his sexual behavior), you get shamed and some people won't forgive you.
CAuse when things are messed up, you want to know this guy you're playing for HOURS or this guy that takes your item for cash won't deceive you or cheat you.
Some people make money from this game and that extra income is more vacations, or a ps4 or FUCKING LIBERTY.
Some people invest TONS OF HOURS in this game. They don't want their "partners" or "ingame buddy" to be fucking liars.
People did mistakes, some apologized and came clean and those people are fun and trustworthy.
People did mistakes just deny (alastir for example with admin meltdown/modifying the map.db to make sure people couldn't go a place in an event/bidding on his own auction with an alt cause he find the price of item too low). Those people are HMC FLAGGED in the community and MANY of us avoid em.
Be smart, stop hidding behind excuses and say the truth as it is. People ain't dumb. They will make the difference or the excuses THEMSELVES, stop forcing it.
AnOrdim
12-02-2019, 08:16 PM
I feel like every time I say this I risk it actually happening, but I'm not even flagged as HMC. Take that for what its worth.
Derex
12-02-2019, 08:16 PM
5$
C.Difficile
12-02-2019, 08:50 PM
/modifying the map.db to make sure people couldn't go a place in an event/
Did this really happen? if so why isn't he permanently IP banned from lnet?
Murrandii
12-02-2019, 08:56 PM
Did this really happen? if so why isn't he permanently IP banned from lnet?
It's either plain modification on the map OR he opened the doc and left it open during a couple of hours to make sure everyone was unable to access it or something like that.
he wasn't banned and he denies it
Alastir
12-02-2019, 09:11 PM
Did this really happen? if so why isn't he permanently IP banned from lnet?
Because Astrewhore is psychotic and this never happened. Tillmen could easily check.
TheJosh
12-02-2019, 09:31 PM
I rarely read PC let alone post. I did feel this topic required me to a make an account to clarify what this person has done to deserve HMC status.
1. Begged GMs in game and via discord for items/RPAs
2. Lied to GMs in game and via discord to achieve the previous
3. Lied to players to get free silvers, sea shells, and items
4. Asked to borrow items then refused to give them back to the lenders
5. tried to trade borrowed items for other items
6. tried to sell borrowed items for personal gain
7. Lied and begged players/GMs to get GoAs for free play
8. Tried to circumvent discord ban by making new accounts
Everything this person says is a lie. They also like to play the pity card by talking about their disability/financial situation (even though I'm sure that is also fabricated).
~josh
https://i.imgflip.com/3i826m.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/3i826m)
Methais
12-02-2019, 09:46 PM
OP is a habitual, unrepentant liar. He and he alone earned his HMC status. He has been banned from the official Discord server, player-run servers, and personally blocked by GMs on Discord as well. He harasses players in game and begs for donations or loans of items or money that he then turns around and tries to sell. He cried to GMs and Wyrom over and over about not getting what he wanted from DSD at EG and tried to get Annanasi fired by misrepresenting a conversation they had. His "mother" playing was his lame attempt to circumvent the HMC tag, but it didn't work. He do we know? He cannot keep his his facades for long and soon falls back into his distinct style of speaking or interacting. I know of players who have resorted to immediate warn interacts when they discover his latest new character in order to avoid dealing with him.
He has been told in no uncertain terms he is not welcome in several groups but will never stop crying and begging to be given one more chance, only to revert to the same patterns and behaviors. He begged for GoAs to play for his accounts because he says he is disabled and unable to pay for his Gemstone subscriptions, only to suddenly have hundreds (or thousands) of dollars to spend at EG. When he suffers the consequences for his actions, he cries about being bullied and blames other players for physically making him sicker because they do not want to have anything to do with him.
You may recognize from on the official Discord server as Graka, before he got banned. His "mother", Galadriel, soon appeared. Then it was Arcanum. Now it's LordLootington.
Do not deal with him.
I’d be lying if I said this wasn’t the exact impression I got the entire time during our Discord conversation when Arcanum messaged me after my first post in this thread, and I’ve had no interactions with this person that I’m aware of before that. They were playing the “mom” role the entire time, being overly nice and :) all over the place, and the story was that “mom” was so upset about being herpes-flagged HMC that the “son” wanted to buy her a 10x Uska ebow in Plat for $1600 which is why the wizard was priced at that. The more the conversation went on the more they seemed to talk about how badly they wanted that bow.
The HMC story was (paraphrased) “so and so was getting bullied by these people and when he tried to tell a GM about it they HMC’d him and the bullies probably got in no trouble.”
Funny part is as the conversation went on I jokingly told my gf “I wonder how much longer before they ask me for money or a loan or something.” and sure enough a few minutes later they did.
This is all with supposedly being on disability that’s good for $500 a month and being stuck in some “bed desk” all day that they play from and talks about how poor they are, yet can still manage to supposedly have 2 active Plat accounts which is only 20% of his monthly income and all...
TLDR: Red flags were going off nonstop when they messaged me on Discord and have me the same impression as your post.
Astray
12-02-2019, 10:04 PM
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Taernath
12-02-2019, 10:29 PM
I’d be lying if I said this wasn’t the exact impression I got the entire time during our Discord conversation when Arcanum messaged me after my first post in this thread, and I’ve had no interactions with this person that I’m aware of before that. They were playing the “mom” role the entire time, being overly nice and :) all over the place, and the story was that “mom” was so upset about being herpes-flagged HMC that the “son” wanted to buy her a 10x Uska ebow in Plat for $1600 which is why the wizard was priced at that. The more the conversation went on the more they seemed to talk about how badly they wanted that bow.
The HMC story was (paraphrased) “so and so was getting bullied by these people and when he tried to tell a GM about it they HMC’d him and the bullies probably got in no trouble.”
Funny part is as the conversation went on I jokingly told my gf “I wonder how much longer before they ask me for money or a loan or something.” and sure enough a few minutes later they did.
This is all with supposedly being on disability that’s good for $500 a month and being stuck in some “bed desk” all day that they play from and talks about how poor they are, yet can still manage to supposedly have 2 active Plat accounts which is only 20% of his monthly income and all...
TLDR: Red flags were going off nonstop when they messaged me on Discord and have me the same impression as your post.
:popcorn:
Realk
12-02-2019, 10:31 PM
i'll go $6.50
Murrandii
12-02-2019, 10:33 PM
He did the 500$ per month too for me trying to buy a char of mine. I had he disable and poor arguments like 20 times and I asked him a couple of time to stop as it brings emotion to a business situation.
He told me it was just factual that I needed to understand it was everything for him.
That smells so much lies.
Also, he tried to borrow my account playing it for me.
SCAM ALERT.
Man, he tried with like half the playerbase too (10 people)
TheJosh
12-02-2019, 10:34 PM
I’d be lying if I said this wasn’t the exact impression I got the entire time during our Discord conversation when Arcanum messaged me after my first post in this thread, and I’ve had no interactions with this person that I’m aware of before that. They were playing the “mom” role the entire time, being overly nice and :) all over the place, and the story was that “mom” was so upset about being herpes-flagged HMC that the “son” wanted to buy her a 10x Uska ebow in Plat for $1600 which is why the wizard was priced at that. The more the conversation went on the more they seemed to talk about how badly they wanted that bow.
The HMC story was (paraphrased) “so and so was getting bullied by these people and when he tried to tell a GM about it they HMC’d him and the bullies probably got in no trouble.”
Funny part is as the conversation went on I jokingly told my gf “I wonder how much longer before they ask me for money or a loan or something.” and sure enough a few minutes later they did.
This is all with supposedly being on disability that’s good for $500 a month and being stuck in some “bed desk” all day that they play from and talks about how poor they are, yet can still manage to supposedly have 2 active Plat accounts which is only 20% of his monthly income and all...
TLDR: Red flags were going off nonstop when they messaged me on Discord and have me the same impression as your post.
Which is funny because this person "sold out" in plat, after EG, and all they wanted was enough money to buy a capped prime character.
Multiple people in plat, including myself, have given this guy multiple chances to not be a POS but he always falls back into his dirtbag ways. I legitimately feel bad for calling Alastir toxic considering how high Graka has set the bar.
I'M SORRY ALASTIR.
Alastir
12-02-2019, 10:40 PM
I'M SORRY ALASTIR.
<3
Fortybox
12-02-2019, 10:43 PM
We need an HMC awareness campaign.
Tell everyone you know.
Fortybox
12-02-2019, 10:46 PM
I feel like every time I say this I risk it actually happening, but I'm not even flagged as HMC. Take that for what its worth.
You still owe Wyrom an apology for hurting his feefees.
Murrandii
12-02-2019, 10:47 PM
wait…
He told me he would got cash from EVERYTHING Being sold in cap cause he was fed up… he wanted to flew from PLAT and now he's telling people he needs to go out from prime to get stuff in plat? MAN IT'S SO SCAMFUL!
Read what he told me :
Hey there,
So, of course I'm interested in your 20m experience wizard. It's the only one better than Hemlock's. He felt he was ripping me off selling his 11.2m exp wizard for $1k when he'd seen a 22m exp halfling wizard sell for $1200 a month prior. Can't fault his honesty, I guess.
Anyway. I have a big budget for me, but $1800s is quite the larger budget than even I had been thinking. We may be able to work it out, however. Do you have Discord?
It's not that I'm unwilling to pay your price, just a matter of the timing. :) I've had a mess of a situation and just need to get the hell away from Platinum and its issues, pronto. That's why I'm hoping we can work out an arrangement as to paying what you want. There's a clique there, plus certain staff members, who have made me literally ill above and beyond the physical disability I already have.
I don't play GemStone for money, but I do play it for a life. I'm stuck pretty much in bed or near to it. I desperately need distraction from my daily pains and a fresh new start on Prime with a great character, as I'll be abandoning all of my hard work on Plat and will have nothing.
I sent you a friend request, Graka#1895 -- I can't message you if you don't accept because we don't have a common server. :)
Fortybox
12-02-2019, 10:47 PM
Because Astrewhore is psychotic and this never happened. Tillmen could easily check.
You’re a known liar/scammer like the OP.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-02-2019, 10:54 PM
I rarely read PC let alone post. I did feel this topic required me to a make an account to clarify what this person has done to deserve HMC status.
1. Begged GMs in game and via discord for items/RPAs
2. Lied to GMs in game and via discord to achieve the previous
3. Lied to players to get free silvers, sea shells, and items
4. Asked to borrow items then refused to give them back to the lenders
5. tried to trade borrowed items for other items
6. tried to sell borrowed items for personal gain
7. Lied and begged players/GMs to get GoAs for free play
8. Tried to circumvent discord ban by making new accounts
Everything this person says is a lie. They also like to play the pity card by talking about their disability/financial situation (even though I'm sure that is also fabricated).
~josh
https://i.imgflip.com/3i826m.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/3i826m)
SHIT JUST GOT REAL
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-02-2019, 10:57 PM
So I did some asking around, and HMC characters can only affect the account it's on and any linked accounts. There's no herpes-like HMC feature that will infect unlinked accounts just from logging in at the same location.
I'm HIV positive Methais gave me HMC.
Fortybox
12-02-2019, 11:02 PM
Maybe this is why Wyrom turned Judge Judy and is now handing out Restraining Orders?
Fortybox
12-02-2019, 11:04 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/3i8b2y.jpg
gemstonefella
12-02-2019, 11:05 PM
i'll go $6.50
I'll trade 12,200 plat points...lol.
Fortybox
12-02-2019, 11:33 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/3i8dns.jpg
Alastir
12-02-2019, 11:38 PM
You’re a known liar/scammer like the OP.
Apart from paying 1m for a golvern shard, which wasn't unreasonable at the time being that nobody knew they were so rare. I've not scammed anyone out of anything. Please provide proof if you have it.
Palantir
12-02-2019, 11:49 PM
Wow, did this ever go to shit while I was away, indeed. I'll go ahead and address some points here, and then I won't proceed any further.
1. The poster making the accusations is otherwise known as Josh. He has an unabiding (and for me, unexplained) hatred for me and seems to have ever since I tried to make an alternative Platinum Discord to his own, perhaps sooner. How do I know? My first Platinum character was named Lutika. Who ever calls me Lutika anymore? Josh, and only Josh, pretty much. Lutika became a background character. Josh, while not the sole bully I've dealt with, is the main one and the coordinator. Why? I don't know, again.
It should be noted that Josh's consistent bullying and misrepresentation of my actions, whipping up others into a frenzy through them, was the primary reason I eventually broke down into selling my stuff on Platinum and working toward getting a Prime character. HMC was not an issue in my household when I bought the wizard. Why did I sell all my stuff and move to Prime? I did that because Wyrom encouraged me to, saying that the bullying wouldn't stop and would only get worse if I stayed.
2. I was not banned from the official Discord server as a result of any action except the assigning of the HMC status. That goes direct from feedback. Yes, I've been banned from PlatChat, the only group too good to use the official Platinum Discord channel. This is despite bending over backwards many times to try and apologize to any offended members and otherwise make peace. I have no desire to fight with them, but it carries on.
3. I did not harass the GMs or Wyrom about not getting what I wanted at DSD. I had great luck at DSD this year and scored several jackpots. What I did contact them about was bullying going on over my choice to keep several of said jackpots. I had nine jackpots in total, including the shamisen, before another player bought them.
4. I did not try to get Annanasi fired. Annanasi said something which I felt was inappropriate at the time, and I did contact feedback, but I did *not* try to get Annanasi fired. I requested an apology. Later, an apology was extended to Annanasi at my choosing for that incident.
5. My mom does play. Josh seems to think that two people consistently typing with capitalizaiton and punctuation equals the same person.
6. My mom wasn't involved in the HMC incident, just got caught up in it. She has never misrepresented anything and has discussed her own situation with Simutronics. Leave her out of it, please and thanks.
7. I have not been told I am "unwelcome" by any groups other than PlatChat. I continue to have the right to subscribe and play if I so choose. Neither Simutronics nor any other group has shut me out.
8. I did ask for assistance with GoA once, for one month, during a time of financial hardship. Josh deleted the request for help. It didn't matter, the situation resolved. In no way did I have thousands to spend at EG. I had set aside a bit each month and was fortune in the diving I did. I also received a few dives as compensation for the observed bullying, from a GM.
9. I am disabled, yes. So what? I do have a desk bed, yes. Again, what's wrong with that? I didn't whine about it. Do both things suck to live with? Sure, but my bed desk was never wielded like a sword in any cause when you spoke to my mom, Methais.
10. It is absolutely, 100%, unequivocally untrue that I took donations or loans of items and then tried to sell them. Everything I was ever loaned, every single item, was returned to its owner or to a trusted courier before I sold off my own belongings and closed my account. This is a frequent lie Josh likes to tell, stemming from my delay in returning a suit of armor to one player. Just as I left, I returned the last items I still had - a katana sash, a permablessed bastard sword, and one other item - to their respective owners, Jaired and Kiel. That was the last of what I had from other players.
Never did I try to sell any of it. Did I ask if they considered me the owner? Yes. Did I then ask permission to sell an item if they did? Yes. Did I try to sell the item when they said no? I did not, I returned the item.
11. The bullying is not something I blame, it's a fact. GMs have voiced that they've taken screenshots of it happening on the official Discord. GMs saw that I was compensated for a year of it with a particularly abusive October, and Wyrom advised me that moving to Prime might be a good idea because Josh was never going to let up on Platinum. I sold everything and left the instance.
12. I have never, ever, on Prime or Platinum, received a warn interact. Not immediately, not eventually, never. No warn of any kind, in fact.
13. I was Graka on the official servers. I continue to use that Discord account to this day. Arcanum is my mom's account (again, leave her out of this crap, please). Galadriel was my mother's account beforehand, but thanks to my confiding that to Ravenfritha (AKA Tamriel_Mom) it soon spread and she was harassed to the point of the Discord staff and mentors advising her to abandon the name and make a new one. I don't know LordLootington, sorry.
14. Sile is Tamriel_Mom. She purchased all of my items, or just about, when I did my item sale. She then began working with a player named Ricaard to deceive me and harass my mom, respectively. When I caught her in the lie via screenshots of our prior discussions, she bemoaned that she was being told one thing by one person and another by another, as if being used like a pawn. Then, she blocked me. She was celebrating her victory in the hundreds of items she received from me at a low price, meanwhile, I'm told.
15. I think everything I've already stated covers TheJosh's statements, as well as his motives and unreasonable personal hatred of me, the lengths of which did indeed lead GS staff to compensate me. I congratulate him for his tenacity in that. It's not why the HMC happened.
16. You're going to have to either accept that I'm disabled, or not. That's all I can say but players going back since long before I had ever met Josh know me to be disabled for a fact. I'm not scanning legal documents onto this board, of all places, for the sake of proving him wrong.
17. I don't have two (or any, at the moment) accounts, Methais. You're referring to my mother when she confided in you, and I'm quite surprised since you seemed very helpful to her with advice on hunting with the wizard. I only ever had one Platinum account on which I was first known as Lutika, later retiring them to focus on playing Tsukiko until I left.
18. The wizard was priced at $1600 because the original seller valued it at $1600, and they are a high dollar seller on this board. It was sold to me for less. I actually tried to sell it back to the owner at buying price before HMC ever became a thing in our lives, but they were unable to purchase it back because they'd committed the money to home projects. They can verify this or not if they choose. It was a fortunate coincidence that the ebow I wanted to help my mother purchase was about that value, so I went for selling it at the original owner's considered price. Eventually, I lowered it to $1400 and kept it there. It was halved when HMC came around, but only after I was encouraged to keep trying to sell by the original owner and others, being honest about what had happened. I'd closed the sale prior to their encouragement.
19. Yes, my income is $510/mo plus food assistance. None of it is currently being used on GS. Next?
And that's all I have to say about the subject. No further replies will be offered, as Josh feeds upon them. My misery seems to be nourishment for him. joshjuststop. You chased me off of Platinum and got me to sell a year's work and head to Prime on a top GM's advice. Are you not satisfied enough?
Bump on the wizard. Still available. Thanks all.
Derex
12-02-2019, 11:53 PM
i retract my bid of 5$
Fortybox
12-02-2019, 11:55 PM
Wow, did this ever go to shit while I was away, indeed. I'll go ahead and address some points here, and then I won't proceed any further.
1. The poster making the accusations is otherwise known as Josh. He has an unabiding (and for me, unexplained) hatred for me and seems to have ever since I tried to make an alternative Platinum Discord to his own, perhaps sooner. How do I know? My first Platinum character was named Lutika. Who ever calls me Lutika anymore? Josh, and only Josh, pretty much. Lutika became a background character. Josh, while not the sole bully I've dealt with, is the main one and the coordinator. Why? I don't know, again.
It should be noted that Josh's consistent bullying and misrepresentation of my actions, whipping up others into a frenzy through them, was the primary reason I eventually broke down into selling my stuff on Platinum and working toward getting a Prime character. HMC was not an issue in my household when I bought the wizard. Why did I sell all my stuff and move to Prime? I did that because Wyrom encouraged me to, saying that the bullying wouldn't stop and would only get worse if I stayed.
2. I was not banned from the official Discord server as a result of any action except the assigning of the HMC status. That goes direct from feedback. Yes, I've been banned from PlatChat, the only group too good to use the official Platinum Discord channel. This is despite bending over backwards many times to try and apologize to any offended members and otherwise make peace. I have no desire to fight with them, but it carries on.
3. I did not harass the GMs or Wyrom about not getting what I wanted at DSD. I had great luck at DSD this year and scored several jackpots. What I did contact them about was bullying going on over my choice to keep several of said jackpots. I had nine jackpots in total, including the shamisen, before another player bought them.
4. I did not try to get Annanasi fired. Annanasi said something which I felt was inappropriate at the time, and I did contact feedback, but I did *not* try to get Annanasi fired. I requested an apology. Later, an apology was extended to Annanasi at my choosing for that incident.
5. My mom does play. Josh seems to think that two people consistently typing with capitalizaiton and punctuation equals the same person.
6. My mom wasn't involved in the HMC incident, just got caught up in it. She has never misrepresented anything and has discussed her own situation with Simutronics. Leave her out of it, please and thanks.
7. I have not been told I am "unwelcome" by any groups other than PlatChat. I continue to have the right to subscribe and play if I so choose. Neither Simutronics nor any other group has shut me out.
8. I did ask for assistance with GoA once, for one month, during a time of financial hardship. Josh deleted the request for help. It didn't matter, the situation resolved. In no way did I have thousands to spend at EG. I had set aside a bit each month and was fortune in the diving I did. I also received a few dives as compensation for the observed bullying, from a GM.
9. I am disabled, yes. So what? I do have a desk bed, yes. Again, what's wrong with that? I didn't whine about it. Do both things suck to live with? Sure, but my bed desk was never wielded like a sword in any cause when you spoke to my mom, Methais.
10. It is absolutely, 100%, unequivocally untrue that I took donations or loans of items and then tried to sell them. Everything I was ever loaned, every single item, was returned to its owner or to a trusted courier before I sold off my own belongings and closed my account. This is a frequent lie Josh likes to tell, stemming from my delay in returning a suit of armor to one player. Just as I left, I returned the last items I still had - a katana sash, a permablessed bastard sword, and one other item - to their respective owners, Jaired and Kiel. That was the last of what I had from other players.
Never did I try to sell any of it. Did I ask if they considered me the owner? Yes. Did I then ask permission to sell an item if they did? Yes. Did I try to sell the item when they said no? I did not, I returned the item.
11. The bullying is not something I blame, it's a fact. GMs have voiced that they've taken screenshots of it happening on the official Discord. GMs saw that I was compensated for a year of it with a particularly abusive October, and Wyrom advised me that moving to Prime might be a good idea because Josh was never going to let up on Platinum. I sold everything and left the instance.
12. I have never, ever, on Prime or Platinum, received a warn interact. Not immediately, not eventually, never. No warn of any kind, in fact.
13. I was Graka on the official servers. I continue to use that Discord account to this day. Arcanum is my mom's account (again, leave her out of this crap, please). Galadriel was my mother's account beforehand, but thanks to my confiding that to Ravenfritha (AKA Tamriel_Mom) it soon spread and she was harassed to the point of the Discord staff and mentors advising her to abandon the name and make a new one.
14. Sile is Tamriel_Mom. She purchased all of my items, or just about, when I did my item sale. She then began working with a player named Ricaard to deceive me and harass my mom, respectively. When I caught her in the lie via screenshots of our prior discussions, she bemoaned that she was being told one thing by one person and another by another, as if being used like a pawn. Then, she blocked me. She was celebrating her victory in the hundreds of items she received from me at a low price, meanwhile, I'm told.
15. I think everything I've already stated covers TheJosh's statements, as well as his motives and unreasonable personal hatred of me, the lengths of which did indeed lead GS staff to compensate me. I congratulate him for his tenacity in that. It's not why the HMC happened.
16. You're going to have to either accept that I'm disabled, or not. That's all I can say but players going back since long before I had ever met Josh know me to be disabled for a fact. I'm not scanning legal documents onto this board, of all places, for the sake of proving him wrong.
17. I don't have two (or any, at the moment) accounts, Methais. You're referring to my mother when she confided in you, and I'm quite surprised since you seemed very helpful to her with advice on hunting with the wizard. I only ever had one Platinum account on which I was first known as Lutika, later retiring them to focus on playing Tsukiko until I left.
18. The wizard was priced at $1600 because the original seller valued it at $1600, and they are a high dollar seller on this board. It was sold to me for less. I actually tried to sell it back to the owner at buying price before HMC ever became a thing in our lives, but they were unable to purchase it back because they'd committed the money to home projects. They can verify this or not if they choose. It was a fortunate coincidence that the ebow I wanted to help my mother purchase was about that value, so I went for selling it at the original owner's considered price. Eventually, I lowered it to $1400 and kept it there. It was halved when HMC came around, but only after I was encouraged to keep trying to sell by the original owner and others, being honest about what had happened. I'd closed the sale prior to their encouragement.
19. Yes, my income is $510/mo plus food assistance. None of it is currently being used on GS. Next?
And that's all I have to say about the subject. No further replies will be offered, as Josh feeds upon them. My misery seems to be nourishment for him. joshjuststop. You chased me off of Platinum and got me to sell a year's work and head to Prime on a top GM's advice. Are you not satisfied enough?
Bump on the wizard. Still available. Thanks all.
Is this the reason why Wyrom went Judge Judy and hands out Retraining Orders?
Palantir
12-02-2019, 11:57 PM
Is this the reason why Wyrom went Judge Judy and hands out Retraining Orders?
I have no idea, but the point has since been made to Simutronics that if something like that had been in place for me to enforce against Josh, a lot of misery could likely have been avoided.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-02-2019, 11:58 PM
Wow, did this ever go to shit while I was away, indeed. I'll go ahead and address some points here, and then I won't proceed any further.
1. The poster making the accusations is otherwise known as Josh. He has an unabiding (and for me, unexplained) hatred for me and seems to have ever since I tried to make an alternative Platinum Discord to his own, perhaps sooner. How do I know? My first Platinum character was named Lutika. Who ever calls me Lutika anymore? Josh, and only Josh, pretty much. Lutika became a background character. Josh, while not the sole bully I've dealt with, is the main one and the coordinator. Why? I don't know, again.
It should be noted that Josh's consistent bullying and misrepresentation of my actions, whipping up others into a frenzy through them, was the primary reason I eventually broke down into selling my stuff on Platinum and working toward getting a Prime character. HMC was not an issue in my household when I bought the wizard. Why did I sell all my stuff and move to Prime? I did that because Wyrom encouraged me to, saying that the bullying wouldn't stop and would only get worse if I stayed.
2. I was not banned from the official Discord server as a result of any action except the assigning of the HMC status. That goes direct from feedback. Yes, I've been banned from PlatChat, the only group too good to use the official Platinum Discord channel. This is despite bending over backwards many times to try and apologize to any offended members and otherwise make peace. I have no desire to fight with them, but it carries on.
3. I did not harass the GMs or Wyrom about not getting what I wanted at DSD. I had great luck at DSD this year and scored several jackpots. What I did contact them about was bullying going on over my choice to keep several of said jackpots. I had nine jackpots in total, including the shamisen, before another player bought them.
4. I did not try to get Annanasi fired. Annanasi said something which I felt was inappropriate at the time, and I did contact feedback, but I did *not* try to get Annanasi fired. I requested an apology. Later, an apology was extended to Annanasi at my choosing for that incident.
5. My mom does play. Josh seems to think that two people consistently typing with capitalizaiton and punctuation equals the same person.
6. My mom wasn't involved in the HMC incident, just got caught up in it. She has never misrepresented anything and has discussed her own situation with Simutronics. Leave her out of it, please and thanks.
7. I have not been told I am "unwelcome" by any groups other than PlatChat. I continue to have the right to subscribe and play if I so choose. Neither Simutronics nor any other group has shut me out.
8. I did ask for assistance with GoA once, for one month, during a time of financial hardship. Josh deleted the request for help. It didn't matter, the situation resolved. In no way did I have thousands to spend at EG. I had set aside a bit each month and was fortune in the diving I did. I also received a few dives as compensation for the observed bullying, from a GM.
9. I am disabled, yes. So what? I do have a desk bed, yes. Again, what's wrong with that? I didn't whine about it. Do both things suck to live with? Sure, but my bed desk was never wielded like a sword in any cause when you spoke to my mom, Methais.
10. It is absolutely, 100%, unequivocally untrue that I took donations or loans of items and then tried to sell them. Everything I was ever loaned, every single item, was returned to its owner or to a trusted courier before I sold off my own belongings and closed my account. This is a frequent lie Josh likes to tell, stemming from my delay in returning a suit of armor to one player. Just as I left, I returned the last items I still had - a katana sash, a permablessed bastard sword, and one other item - to their respective owners, Jaired and Kiel. That was the last of what I had from other players.
Never did I try to sell any of it. Did I ask if they considered me the owner? Yes. Did I then ask permission to sell an item if they did? Yes. Did I try to sell the item when they said no? I did not, I returned the item.
11. The bullying is not something I blame, it's a fact. GMs have voiced that they've taken screenshots of it happening on the official Discord. GMs saw that I was compensated for a year of it with a particularly abusive October, and Wyrom advised me that moving to Prime might be a good idea because Josh was never going to let up on Platinum. I sold everything and left the instance.
12. I have never, ever, on Prime or Platinum, received a warn interact. Not immediately, not eventually, never. No warn of any kind, in fact.
13. I was Graka on the official servers. I continue to use that Discord account to this day. Arcanum is my mom's account (again, leave her out of this crap, please). Galadriel was my mother's account beforehand, but thanks to my confiding that to Ravenfritha (AKA Tamriel_Mom) it soon spread and she was harassed to the point of the Discord staff and mentors advising her to abandon the name and make a new one. I don't know LordLootington, sorry.
14. Sile is Tamriel_Mom. She purchased all of my items, or just about, when I did my item sale. She then began working with a player named Ricaard to deceive me and harass my mom, respectively. When I caught her in the lie via screenshots of our prior discussions, she bemoaned that she was being told one thing by one person and another by another, as if being used like a pawn. Then, she blocked me. She was celebrating her victory in the hundreds of items she received from me at a low price, meanwhile, I'm told.
15. I think everything I've already stated covers TheJosh's statements, as well as his motives and unreasonable personal hatred of me, the lengths of which did indeed lead GS staff to compensate me. I congratulate him for his tenacity in that. It's not why the HMC happened.
16. You're going to have to either accept that I'm disabled, or not. That's all I can say but players going back since long before I had ever met Josh know me to be disabled for a fact. I'm not scanning legal documents onto this board, of all places, for the sake of proving him wrong.
17. I don't have two (or any, at the moment) accounts, Methais. You're referring to my mother when she confided in you, and I'm quite surprised since you seemed very helpful to her with advice on hunting with the wizard. I only ever had one Platinum account on which I was first known as Lutika, later retiring them to focus on playing Tsukiko until I left.
18. The wizard was priced at $1600 because the original seller valued it at $1600, and they are a high dollar seller on this board. It was sold to me for less. I actually tried to sell it back to the owner at buying price before HMC ever became a thing in our lives, but they were unable to purchase it back because they'd committed the money to home projects. They can verify this or not if they choose. It was a fortunate coincidence that the ebow I wanted to help my mother purchase was about that value, so I went for selling it at the original owner's considered price. Eventually, I lowered it to $1400 and kept it there. It was halved when HMC came around, but only after I was encouraged to keep trying to sell by the original owner and others, being honest about what had happened. I'd closed the sale prior to their encouragement.
19. Yes, my income is $510/mo plus food assistance. None of it is currently being used on GS. Next?
And that's all I have to say about the subject. No further replies will be offered, as Josh feeds upon them. My misery seems to be nourishment for him. joshjuststop. You chased me off of Platinum and got me to sell a year's work and head to Prime on a top GM's advice. Are you not satisfied enough?
Bump on the wizard. Still available. Thanks all.
Whenever I see a wall of text, I know there is a drama llama in the room.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-03-2019, 12:00 AM
Wait, your reason for leaving Platinum was because the game PM (I think that's what Wyrom is right?) said you are getting bullied and that'll never stop (and the implied there is nothing the game PM could do about it)?
Murrandii
12-03-2019, 12:03 AM
You know when someone is full of crap when all he says is: Not my fault, it's other's
There's a lot of bad people according to you.. A LOT!
gemstonefella
12-03-2019, 12:05 AM
Wait, your reason for leaving Platinum was because the game PM (I think that's what Wyrom is right?) said you are getting bullied and that'll never stop (and the implied there is nothing the game PM could do about it)?
LOLZ
Taernath
12-03-2019, 12:05 AM
Wyrom advised someone to downgrade their subscription?
https://media.giphy.com/media/h2OLfcSKKthRK/giphy.gif
TheJosh
12-03-2019, 12:05 AM
Wow, did this ever go to shit while I was away, indeed. I'll go ahead and address some points here, and then I won't proceed any further.
1. The poster making the accusations is otherwise known as Josh. He has an unabiding (and for me, unexplained) hatred for me and seems to have ever since I tried to make an alternative Platinum Discord to his own, perhaps sooner. How do I know? My first Platinum character was named Lutika. Who ever calls me Lutika anymore? Josh, and only Josh, pretty much. Lutika became a background character. Josh, while not the sole bully I've dealt with, is the main one and the coordinator. Why? I don't know, again.
It should be noted that Josh's consistent bullying and misrepresentation of my actions, whipping up others into a frenzy through them, was the primary reason I eventually broke down into selling my stuff on Platinum and working toward getting a Prime character. HMC was not an issue in my household when I bought the wizard. Why did I sell all my stuff and move to Prime? I did that because Wyrom encouraged me to, saying that the bullying wouldn't stop and would only get worse if I stayed.
2. I was not banned from the official Discord server as a result of any action except the assigning of the HMC status. That goes direct from feedback. Yes, I've been banned from PlatChat, the only group too good to use the official Platinum Discord channel. This is despite bending over backwards many times to try and apologize to any offended members and otherwise make peace. I have no desire to fight with them, but it carries on.
3. I did not harass the GMs or Wyrom about not getting what I wanted at DSD. I had great luck at DSD this year and scored several jackpots. What I did contact them about was bullying going on over my choice to keep several of said jackpots. I had nine jackpots in total, including the shamisen, before another player bought them.
4. I did not try to get Annanasi fired. Annanasi said something which I felt was inappropriate at the time, and I did contact feedback, but I did *not* try to get Annanasi fired. I requested an apology. Later, an apology was extended to Annanasi at my choosing for that incident.
5. My mom does play. Josh seems to think that two people consistently typing with capitalizaiton and punctuation equals the same person.
6. My mom wasn't involved in the HMC incident, just got caught up in it. She has never misrepresented anything and has discussed her own situation with Simutronics. Leave her out of it, please and thanks.
7. I have not been told I am "unwelcome" by any groups other than PlatChat. I continue to have the right to subscribe and play if I so choose. Neither Simutronics nor any other group has shut me out.
8. I did ask for assistance with GoA once, for one month, during a time of financial hardship. Josh deleted the request for help. It didn't matter, the situation resolved. In no way did I have thousands to spend at EG. I had set aside a bit each month and was fortune in the diving I did. I also received a few dives as compensation for the observed bullying, from a GM.
9. I am disabled, yes. So what? I do have a desk bed, yes. Again, what's wrong with that? I didn't whine about it. Do both things suck to live with? Sure, but my bed desk was never wielded like a sword in any cause when you spoke to my mom, Methais.
10. It is absolutely, 100%, unequivocally untrue that I took donations or loans of items and then tried to sell them. Everything I was ever loaned, every single item, was returned to its owner or to a trusted courier before I sold off my own belongings and closed my account. This is a frequent lie Josh likes to tell, stemming from my delay in returning a suit of armor to one player. Just as I left, I returned the last items I still had - a katana sash, a permablessed bastard sword, and one other item - to their respective owners, Jaired and Kiel. That was the last of what I had from other players.
Never did I try to sell any of it. Did I ask if they considered me the owner? Yes. Did I then ask permission to sell an item if they did? Yes. Did I try to sell the item when they said no? I did not, I returned the item.
11. The bullying is not something I blame, it's a fact. GMs have voiced that they've taken screenshots of it happening on the official Discord. GMs saw that I was compensated for a year of it with a particularly abusive October, and Wyrom advised me that moving to Prime might be a good idea because Josh was never going to let up on Platinum. I sold everything and left the instance.
12. I have never, ever, on Prime or Platinum, received a warn interact. Not immediately, not eventually, never. No warn of any kind, in fact.
13. I was Graka on the official servers. I continue to use that Discord account to this day. Arcanum is my mom's account (again, leave her out of this crap, please). Galadriel was my mother's account beforehand, but thanks to my confiding that to Ravenfritha (AKA Tamriel_Mom) it soon spread and she was harassed to the point of the Discord staff and mentors advising her to abandon the name and make a new one. I don't know LordLootington, sorry.
14. Sile is Tamriel_Mom. She purchased all of my items, or just about, when I did my item sale. She then began working with a player named Ricaard to deceive me and harass my mom, respectively. When I caught her in the lie via screenshots of our prior discussions, she bemoaned that she was being told one thing by one person and another by another, as if being used like a pawn. Then, she blocked me. She was celebrating her victory in the hundreds of items she received from me at a low price, meanwhile, I'm told.
15. I think everything I've already stated covers TheJosh's statements, as well as his motives and unreasonable personal hatred of me, the lengths of which did indeed lead GS staff to compensate me. I congratulate him for his tenacity in that. It's not why the HMC happened.
16. You're going to have to either accept that I'm disabled, or not. That's all I can say but players going back since long before I had ever met Josh know me to be disabled for a fact. I'm not scanning legal documents onto this board, of all places, for the sake of proving him wrong.
17. I don't have two (or any, at the moment) accounts, Methais. You're referring to my mother when she confided in you, and I'm quite surprised since you seemed very helpful to her with advice on hunting with the wizard. I only ever had one Platinum account on which I was first known as Lutika, later retiring them to focus on playing Tsukiko until I left.
18. The wizard was priced at $1600 because the original seller valued it at $1600, and they are a high dollar seller on this board. It was sold to me for less. I actually tried to sell it back to the owner at buying price before HMC ever became a thing in our lives, but they were unable to purchase it back because they'd committed the money to home projects. They can verify this or not if they choose. It was a fortunate coincidence that the ebow I wanted to help my mother purchase was about that value, so I went for selling it at the original owner's considered price. Eventually, I lowered it to $1400 and kept it there. It was halved when HMC came around, but only after I was encouraged to keep trying to sell by the original owner and others, being honest about what had happened. I'd closed the sale prior to their encouragement.
19. Yes, my income is $510/mo plus food assistance. None of it is currently being used on GS. Next?
And that's all I have to say about the subject. No further replies will be offered, as Josh feeds upon them. My misery seems to be nourishment for him. joshjuststop. You chased me off of Platinum and got me to sell a year's work and head to Prime on a top GM's advice. Are you not satisfied enough?
Bump on the wizard. Still available. Thanks all.
I didn't make the initial post, sweetheart. Nor am I afraid I show my identity. Don't blame me for someone else in plat posting about your true nature.
I tried to help you over and over again, the community you burned in platinum are the ones that wanted you out. I've stuck up for you multiple times and you've done nothing but prove people's points.
The people you've interacted with in prime and plat know your true nature. Bluntly put, you're a shit human being that thinks people owe you something.
Palantir
12-03-2019, 12:06 AM
You know when someone is full of crap when all he says is: Not my fault, it's other's
There's a lot of bad people according to you.. A LOT!
Not really, no? It's pretty much Josh. I mentioned something Tamriel_Mom and Ricaard pulled, but that's about it. Most of the PlatChat crowd was still friendly to me in-game even if I wasn't in their group outside of it. Simutronics has always been civil.
That being said, I've gone a couple posts past my 'I'm done' limit. I am now done.
Murrandii
12-03-2019, 12:07 AM
I will say again that OP came to me and said he was being bullyed by the plat clique (literraly everyone)
Not really, no? It's pretty much Josh. I mentioned something Tamriel_Mom and Ricaard pulled, but that's about it. Most of the PlatChat crowd was still friendly to me in-game even if I wasn't in their group outside of it. Simutronics has always been civil.
That being said, I've gone a couple posts past my 'I'm done' limit. I am now done.
BRO LAY LOW!
STOP! Get your things right and come clean. STOP! More lies = more distrust.
TheJosh
12-03-2019, 12:14 AM
Not really, no? It's pretty much Josh. I mentioned something Tamriel_Mom and Ricaard pulled, but that's about it. Most of the PlatChat crowd was still friendly to me in-game even if I wasn't in their group outside of it. Simutronics has always been civil.
That being said, I've gone a couple posts past my 'I'm done' limit. I am now done.
You constantly blame me for all of your GS issues when you're the origin. I've done nothing but tried to help you and point out what you've done that soured people towards you.
This was the result of that last platinum community vote to allow him back in platchat.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/643991102986256414/651274723766042674/unknown.png?width=1010&height=452
Looks to me like 2/3 of the community dislikes you. Your little platchat cloned never concerned me as a threat and it failed because YOU were the person behind it.
Palantir
12-03-2019, 12:16 AM
Wyrom advised someone to downgrade their subscription?
https://media.giphy.com/media/h2OLfcSKKthRK/giphy.gif
https://i.imgur.com/T1hOoYW.jpg
mgoddess
12-03-2019, 12:17 AM
Retraining Orders?
Wizard: *training for old 925*
Wyrom: You train wrong! You must retrain!
Wizard: *insert wizard tears of essence*
Velfi
12-03-2019, 12:17 AM
https://i.imgur.com/PY3U96r.gif
Murrandii
12-03-2019, 12:18 AM
You constantly blame me for all of your GS issues when you're the origin. I've done nothing but tried to help you and point out what you've done that soured people towards you.
This was the result of that last platinum community vote to allow him back in platchat.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/643991102986256414/651274723766042674/unknown.png?width=1010&height=452[/img)
Man, seriously… I feel you, you had too much empathy to think he'd change. Those people are professionnal manipulator that uses pity to get what they need. They nourrish themselves of the generosity of others.
Fortybox
12-03-2019, 12:18 AM
I didn't make the initial post, sweetheart. Nor am I afraid I show my identity. Don't blame me for someone else in plat posting about your true nature.
I tried to help you over and over again, the community you burned in platinum are the ones that wanted you out. I've stuck up for you multiple times and you've done nothing but prove people's points.
The people you've interacted with in prime and plat know your true nature. Bluntly put, you're a shit human being that thinks people owe you something.
Sweetheart? Wait wat?
Fortybox
12-03-2019, 12:19 AM
Wizard: *training for old 925*
Wyrom: You train wrong! You must retrain!
Wizard: *insert wizard tears of essence*
hahahahahahaha - I didn't realize my typo but it's funny so won't edit it.
Derex
12-03-2019, 12:26 AM
https://i.imgur.com/T1hOoYW.jpg
Well that didn’t last long
TheJosh
12-03-2019, 12:28 AM
Yes but you don't see the context before that quote. He's cherry picking statements to validate his argument and perpetuate his victim mentality.
Also, the only in-game contact i had with Lutika was I gave him a well-crated eonake maul, for free, because I felt bad he was HMC'd. Other than that, I never interacted with him in the game.
Richaard
12-03-2019, 12:50 AM
Wow, did this ever go to shit while I was away, indeed. I'll go ahead and address some points here, and then I won't proceed any further.
14. Sile is Tamriel_Mom. She purchased all of my items, or just about, when I did my item sale. She then began working with a player named Ricaard to deceive me and harass my mom, respectively. When I caught her in the lie via screenshots of our prior discussions, she bemoaned that she was being told one thing by one person and another by another, as if being used like a pawn. Then, she blocked me. She was celebrating her victory in the hundreds of items she received from me at a low price, meanwhile, I'm told.
By special request from someone on PlatChat....I posted this:
"The dumbass can't even spell my name."
Methais
12-03-2019, 12:56 AM
We need an HMC awareness campaign.
Tell everyone you know.
New mandatory titles!
High Maintenance Fortybox just arrived.
You see High Maintenance Fortybox.
He appears to be High Maintenance.
He is in high maintenance shape.
He is wearing things that someone who’s High Maintenance would wear.
Taernath
12-03-2019, 12:57 AM
Plat is apparently serious fucking business.
Methais
12-03-2019, 01:12 AM
9. I am disabled, yes. So what? I do have a desk bed, yes. Again, what's wrong with that? I didn't whine about it. Do both things suck to live with? Sure, but my bed desk was never wielded like a sword in any cause when you spoke to my mom, Methais.
It’s not that there’s anything wrong with it. It’s that I don’t believe you. And I literally can’t tell the difference between you and your “mom’s” writing.
17. I don't have two (or any, at the moment) accounts, Methais. You're referring to my mother when she confided in you, and I'm quite surprised since you seemed very helpful to her with advice on hunting with the wizard. I only ever had one Platinum account on which I was first known as Lutika, later retiring them to focus on playing Tsukiko until I left.
And said advice was met with (paraphrased) “But I need money now.” I don’t believe you’re separate people either. If I’m wrong then I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure I’m not wrong.
Fortybox
12-03-2019, 01:16 AM
Plat is apparently serious fucking business.
No kidding. Snippets from LNET this evening:
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "BTW, everything everyone has said about Graka/Lutika on that PC thread = 100% true"
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "And he left stuff out, TBH."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Yeah, I play Plat and I've been a witness to the whole thing."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Graka started being a problem at EG last year. He would whine and cry every time he didn't win a raffle and ask people to donate stuff to him or give him stuff because he was new and poor."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "He became a BIG problem when he started claiming loans items were gifts."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Someone loaned him some fully unlocked Voln armor and he refused to give it back."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "It took, like, five of us intervening until he finally returned it."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "And that's been a pattern. Claiming loans were gifts. Trying to sell stuff that didn't belong to him, or getting a gift from someone and immediately trying to sell it."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Eventually Plat just wanted him gone, but for whatever reason, he's only ever said Josh did it to him."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "The straw that broke the camel's back was when he started begging for GoA because he was disabled and too poor to keep playing. He said Chris in billing told him to solicit donations."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Anyway, he finally got himself banned from the Plat Discord. So he cried on the official server to the point GMs had to intervene on multiple occasions to stop him."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "At least one GM blocked him on Discord as welll."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "He then started making new accounts to get on the Plat Discord, only to give himself away and get banned."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "He even INSTALLED A SLEEPER ACCOUNT on the server in anticipation of getting booted."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Basically, he made an account, joined the Plat server, then didn't touch it for several months so nobody suspected it was him."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Oh, and the part where he says he left Platinum?"
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "That's a lie."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "He roleplays all his characters the same way and is the thirstiest merchant hound I've ever seen, so we know it's him whenever he makes a new character."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "That he talked trash about Tamriel_Mom is ridiculous. She's the nicest, most civil person around."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "She did block him because he would not stop crying about selling his stuff to her and what a deal she got."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "There's no way two people use that particular syntax and emoticon style."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "I don't necessarily doubt he's being honest about what he sells. His story about HMC is a total lie but he's smart enough to know he can't misrepresent what he's selling."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Like, he won GHOUL at EG this year. Gave the prize to Tanai."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Then, like a week later, asked for her to pay him."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Then asked her to GoA him for the prize in exchange."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "He doesn't get bullied, he gets isolated because everyone who deals with him ends up wanting nothing to do with him."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "Anyway, I look forward to him trying to beg his way back into the Plat server again real soon."
[LNet]-GSIV:Sarmoya: "We do. There are players who, when they discover his newest alt, immediately warn interact."
Fortybox
12-03-2019, 01:21 AM
New mandatory titles!
High Maintenance Fortybox just arrived.
You see High Maintenance Fortybox.
He appears to be High Maintenance.
He is in high maintenance shape.
He is wearing things that someone who’s High Maintenance would wear.
:lol:
High Maintenance Fortybox just arrived.
Fortybox glances at you.
You suddenly feel an itch...down there.
It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...
You mentally feel a moment of panic as you realize that you're now known as a High Maintenance Character and Wyrom has issued a No Contact Order on you.
...departing in 10 mins...
BriarFox
12-03-2019, 01:37 AM
The wizard this thread is about was mine. I began him in 2009 and leveled him to 15.4m. He is exactly as described in the first post. I sold him to the OP three weeks ago, with shop and gear, for $1200. There were no problems with the payment. A week after I sold him the wizard, he asked me if I would buy it back or mind if he sold it, and I told him I wasn't looking to buy it back and to go ahead and sell it. In the middle of his trying to sell it, the account he had put the wizard on got hit with HMC status because it was linked to his other account. I don't know the history of the Plat situation or who's in the right, but I do know he paid me promptly and I didn't have any trouble.
As to whether the OP is actually disabled and is telling the truth, I recognize him from several passing interactions over the last several years, during which he has multiple times asked my advice on ranger training and has told me the same disability story and about how he plays Gemstone for distraction from it. As a result, my read on the disability angle is that he's legitimately disabled and is telling the truth. From my interactions with him, I believe he simply over-invests emotionally in Gemstone and makes mistakes in interpersonal relationships as a result of anxiety over it.
The OP PM'd me and offered me the shop back for free this evening before he canceled his accounts. Again, I don't know the full story behind all of this, but I wish him the best and hope that a break from Gemstone is beneficial.
Sile is Tamriel_Mom. She purchased all of my items, or just about, when I did my item sale. She then began working with a player named Ricaard to deceive me and harass my mom, respectively. When I caught her in the lie via screenshots of our prior discussions, she bemoaned that she was being told one thing by one person and another by another, as if being used like a pawn. Then, she blocked me. She was celebrating her victory in the hundreds of items she received from me at a low price, meanwhile, I'm told.
This is news to me.
I was going to go into a spiel to debunk this. But this thread has gotten so juicy I'll let you go on believing whatever you want.
Except one thing. I really am a dude. Just with a female pornstar name.
Realk
12-03-2019, 02:26 AM
The wizard this thread is about was mine. I began him in 2009 and leveled him to 15.4m. He is exactly as described in the first post. I sold him to the OP three weeks ago, with shop and gear, for $1200. There were no problems with the payment. A week after I sold him the wizard, he asked me if I would buy it back or mind if he sold it, and I told him I wasn't looking to buy it back and to go ahead and sell it. In the middle of his trying to sell it, the account he had put the wizard on got hit with HMC status because it was linked to his other account. I don't know the history of the Plat situation or who's in the right, but I do know he paid me promptly and I didn't have any trouble.
As to whether the OP is actually disabled and is telling the truth, I recognize him from several passing interactions over the last several years, during which he has multiple times asked my advice on ranger training and has told me the same disability story and about how he plays Gemstone for distraction from it. As a result, my read on the disability angle is that he's legitimately disabled and is telling the truth. From my interactions with him, I believe he simply over-invests emotionally in Gemstone and makes mistakes in interpersonal relationships as a result of anxiety over it.
The OP PM'd me and offered me the shop back for free this evening before he canceled his accounts. Again, I don't know the full story behind all of this, but I wish him the best and hope that a break from Gemstone is beneficial.
this is the first post i believe.
Astray
12-03-2019, 05:54 AM
This is news to me.
I was going to go into a spiel to debunk this. But this thread has gotten so juicy I'll let you go on believing whatever you want.
Except one thing. I really am a dude. Just with a female pornstar name.
Changing your name to Bigtits McCumface was a mistake.
Tgo01
12-03-2019, 06:51 AM
Why didn't anyone tell me there was so much drama going on in this thread?
Changing your name to Bigtits McCumface was a mistake.
But it just rolls off the tongue...
Fortybox
12-03-2019, 08:05 AM
Can you get HMC if it’s on an item? We are facing a pandemic here people...
Fortybox
12-03-2019, 08:08 AM
The wizard this thread is about was mine. I began him in 2009 and leveled him to 15.4m. He is exactly as described in the first post. I sold him to the OP three weeks ago, with shop and gear, for $1200. There were no problems with the payment. A week after I sold him the wizard, he asked me if I would buy it back or mind if he sold it, and I told him I wasn't looking to buy it back and to go ahead and sell it. In the middle of his trying to sell it, the account he had put the wizard on got hit with HMC status because it was linked to his other account. I don't know the history of the Plat situation or who's in the right, but I do know he paid me promptly and I didn't have any trouble.
As to whether the OP is actually disabled and is telling the truth, I recognize him from several passing interactions over the last several years, during which he has multiple times asked my advice on ranger training and has told me the same disability story and about how he plays Gemstone for distraction from it. As a result, my read on the disability angle is that he's legitimately disabled and is telling the truth. From my interactions with him, I believe he simply over-invests emotionally in Gemstone and makes mistakes in interpersonal relationships as a result of anxiety over it.
The OP PM'd me and offered me the shop back for free this evening before he canceled his accounts. Again, I don't know the full story behind all of this, but I wish him the best and hope that a break from Gemstone is beneficial.
Sounds like he realized he infected the new wizard and tried to scam you by taking it back.
Astray
12-03-2019, 08:29 AM
But it just rolls off the tongue...
Not touching that one.
audioserf
12-03-2019, 08:36 AM
Plat is deadass on some Mean Girls shit, Burn Book and all
Murrandii
12-03-2019, 08:46 AM
Sounds like he realized he infected the new wizard and tried to scam you by taking it back.
yeah, I think that too.
Chronology from my pov:
1) He tried to buy a wiz on PRIME ( and I was listening to offers) and told many of us the story why (he had problems in plat and wanted to leave cause reason). As many, I heard the same rhetoric: disable, poor, he needs help and is trying to make his life better with gs. I wanted more money, he offered a fix amount and per months cash. He told me over and over his 500$ per month. I couldn't accept money if he was that poor. I said no deal. Ok so far, it's a bit weird but it happens. Key point: he wanted to LEAVE Plat, it was toxic for him and wanted to stop, completely, plat interactions.
2) He got nuad'S character. A couple of time after, he PMed ingame and told me he wished he bought MY character. I didn't ask why but he gave reasons anyway: HMC and a bunch of stuff I didn't pay attention. Until then I NEVER THOUGHT THE GUY WAS THE SAME AS THE OP OF THIS THREAD. For me, it was 2 different persons.
3) He pmed me in game to sell his services, meaning he'd take my character and play em while I pay him. He tried to sell me a high end bow cause he wanted to buy his mom stuff in plat. I told him no 6 times. He threw the disabling and poor status. I gave him advice to make money. HE REFUSED THEM. FISHY RED FLAG ALERT. I told him how to increase his revenue, gave him pointers, how to do it. HE KEPT SAYING HE CAN'T CAUSE HE'S DISABLED! RED FLAG ALERT!
4) This drama
The one thing that dont make any sense to me. If your income is so restricted, why would you be buying 1k plus characters. Imagine spending 2x or 3x your monthly salary on just a character.
I also never understood the alure of plat, mostly because I feel 15 a month is expensive enough . I'd rather have multiple 15$ accounts than one expensive account. To each their own.
The funny thing is this HMC thing was blamed on a member of his household originally. Now the blame is on a certain group of 'bullies' in plat. I'm glad I didnt buy this character. But it's really too bad a character with a good name is now tainted forever.
zephyrii
12-03-2019, 09:22 AM
I normally never bother to comment on these kinds of threads but I couldn't resist adding...
*popcorn munch munch*
Methais
12-03-2019, 09:44 AM
The wizard this thread is about was mine. I began him in 2009 and leveled him to 15.4m. He is exactly as described in the first post. I sold him to the OP three weeks ago, with shop and gear, for $1200. There were no problems with the payment. A week after I sold him the wizard, he asked me if I would buy it back or mind if he sold it, and I told him I wasn't looking to buy it back and to go ahead and sell it. In the middle of his trying to sell it, the account he had put the wizard on got hit with HMC status because it was linked to his other account. I don't know the history of the Plat situation or who's in the right, but I do know he paid me promptly and I didn't have any trouble.
As to whether the OP is actually disabled and is telling the truth, I recognize him from several passing interactions over the last several years, during which he has multiple times asked my advice on ranger training and has told me the same disability story and about how he plays Gemstone for distraction from it. As a result, my read on the disability angle is that he's legitimately disabled and is telling the truth. From my interactions with him, I believe he simply over-invests emotionally in Gemstone and makes mistakes in interpersonal relationships as a result of anxiety over it.
The OP PM'd me and offered me the shop back for free this evening before he canceled his accounts. Again, I don't know the full story behind all of this, but I wish him the best and hope that a break from Gemstone is beneficial.
The problem with this is he's saying it wasn't a linked account, it was supposedly on an unlinked account and due solely to logging in from the same location he got slapped with HMC, insisting that Simu specifically told him it's from logging in from the same location and nothing to do with linked accounts. Which I find pretty hard to believe, since that's not how getting hit with HMC works and has been confirmed by Simu.
BriarFox
12-03-2019, 09:46 AM
The problem with this is he's saying it wasn't a linked account, it was supposedly on an unlinked account and due solely to logging in from the same location he got slapped with HMC, insisting that Simu specifically told him it's from logging in from the same location and nothing to do with linked accounts. Which I find pretty hard to believe.
Yeah, he was just trying to hide the wizard on his mom's account, I think. Apparently they have the same address because he lives at home due to his disability. He probably would have been fine, but he apparently emailed feedback to ask if they were going to penalize his mom's account because of his HMC status, which, you know, would have been like showing bloody meat to a wolf. Feedback's official stance is that any account linked by name, billing, or IP address can be tagged as well, but it's a manual thing, I'm sure.
Methais
12-03-2019, 09:49 AM
Yeah, he was just trying to hide the wizard on his mom's account, I think. Apparently they have the same address because he lives at home due to his disability. He probably would have been fine, but he apparently emailed feedback to ask if they were going to penalize his mom's account because of his HMC status, which, you know, would have been like showing bloody meat to a wolf. Feedback's official stance is that any account linked by name, billing, or IP address can be tagged as well, but it's a manual thing, I'm sure.
That doesn't change the fact that he made up a completely false story and is still doubling down on it.
BriarFox
12-03-2019, 09:51 AM
That doesn't change the fact that he made up a completely false story and is still doubling down on it.
:shrug:
Probably didn't want to say, "I'm HMC. I fucked up." Would have been easier though.
Murrandii
12-03-2019, 09:53 AM
Simple question:
Why is he trying to sell the PRIME character he tried for a couple of weeks to buy? He wanted to flee from plat and play clean on prime.
Why is he trying to sell the character, then?
BriarFox
12-03-2019, 09:54 AM
The story I heard from him is that his mom was upset that her account got tagged with HMC status as well, so he wanted to liquidate the wizard at a loss to buy her a spirit bow in Plat to apologize. Also, he seems not to have been able to give up playing Plat for some reason.
Methais
12-03-2019, 09:55 AM
:shrug:
Probably didn't want to say, "I'm HMC. I fucked up." Would have been easier though.
Ah yes, I forgot that lying during a sale is always the best course of action.
Astray
12-03-2019, 09:59 AM
I think the best part about this is Wyrom basically telling OP that they are so cancer that the company losing a Plat sub is more preferable to them actually playing on a Plat sub.
BriarFox
12-03-2019, 10:01 AM
Ah yes, I forgot that lying during a sale is always the best course of action.
Yeah, the guilt by association bit is not true as far as the player is concerned. The wizard was clean before and got smeared with HMC status because of the account it was transferred to.
Methais
12-03-2019, 10:09 AM
Yeah, the guilt by association bit is not true as far as the player is concerned. The wizard was clean before and got smeared with HMC status because of the account it was transferred to.
Which is precisely why I'm saying this person is full of shit.
Palantir
12-03-2019, 10:13 AM
I'm not going to bother responding to all of this at length. I needlessly stressed myself out doing so last night (once again addressing accusations I have addressed time and again prior, only to have them ignored) and won't be viewing the thread further after this post. My mom will also not be dragged into this again. Her accounts are cancelled, we are gone. If you want to waste what time you have in your day continuing with this, feel free, but know that I'm neither here nor on Lnet to see it.
A few points to address:
1. I apologize to Richaard for misspelling his name, as I also did via PMs. We had very little contact outside of the game (though I did find our RP within game fun and he seemed pleasant). I only vaguely recalled the name from when he messaged my mom's Discord. So, I officially apologize for calling him Ricaard and provide him with two letters H to repay the debt. Richaard, it was nice knowing you and I do appreciate the support I know you gave.
2. Sile, case of mistaken identity. Sorry about that. I'm glad we were able to talk it out in PMs and appreciate that you accepted my apology. Your advice, also appreciated. Glad to have known you.
3. BriarFox, thank you for having been a genuinely good and kind friend for many years. I appreciate your visiting the thread to say what you did and to verify that my health status is genuine. Enjoy the shop.
4. The katana referenced was given to me as part of the compensation for mistreatment noted by staff. When I began liquidating my account, it naturally became a consideration as to whether or not that katana could/should be sold. I would not do so without Wyrom's go-ahead. So, I brought it up and only then did I learn that an anonymous player (still anonymous to me) had donated the katana and a blink token, and Wyrom had done the alter. After I asked him whether it could be sold, he said he'd look into it and speak with the person. I inquired a few times about an answer as billing time grew closer and I wanted to downgrade my account, which annoyed him and concluded in his taking back the katana. That's the story there. I regret that it happened, as up until then, Wyrom and I had actually maintained a great relationship and I had his permission to DM him to chat whenever I wanted to. A good friend.
That's about it. Thanks all. The narrative is clearly going to be driven toward scandal here, no matter what else I say, so I'm out of it and the game (save for the last few days I have subbed - might play a little during those). If there's anything else needed, feel free to PM.
Murrandii
12-03-2019, 10:14 AM
Why your mom canceled her plat account? How was it related to this issue man?
Please, stop crapping on our intelligence
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-03-2019, 10:21 AM
I just wish you'd stop apologizing. Apology without sincerity is just a slap in the face to people. It's clear since you apologize everywhere (screencap above, all through this thread) you think it gets you something. It doesn't. Just makes you look worse.
Anyway, since you aren't reading this, I was going to pay your GS sub for the next year, but I guess no need now.
SonoftheNorth
12-03-2019, 10:39 AM
Wowwwwwwwwwwww.
TheJosh
12-03-2019, 11:08 AM
I was legitimately trying to give this person a 15th chance. I told them to stop scamming, lay low, try to regain people's trust. Then I happened upon this thread....
He takes no ownership for his actions causing the HMC, he even insinuates it was someone else in his household that caused it. He also continues the lie of "his mother" playing the other account.
During the last DR he came into platchat begging for a GoA, claiming Chris from billing told him to ask the community for it. This is when I banned him from platchat. After a few days of drama in the official discord, basically him crying to GMs and anyone that would listen, things died down.
A week after this happened, he claimed he was unsubbing. A week after that he re-subbed and begged me to let him back in platchat, which i did. Once invited back into platchat he mass DM'd everyone claiming he was innocent and that I had banned him because I hated him. He then said he was going to start his own platchat (minus the strippers and blackjack). Once people informed me of his mass harassment DMs, I re-banned him. Once again, he claimed he was unsubbing from plat.
Fast forward to EG, he resubs and has a pretty fancy, new, discord made. It's obvious he didn't create this discord because it was pretty well automated and Scammy Sammy lacks the cognitive capabilities to do that himself. He has this discord for a week? maybe 2? before he deletes it. I had originally assumed he shut it down because it had failed but someone told me that someone called him out on his behavior, he kicked them, then another person called him out on kicking the person that called him out. Anyway, after this drama he claims he's leaving plat for prime! (but he waits 2 weeks until EG is over)
(ignoring the drama of him crying to GMs about getting nothing good from DSD after dropping 500 bucks)
He wins Ghoul, doesn't like the toy prize and proceeds to DM a bunch of GMs to complain. He then GIVES the toy to someone in plat, for free, and a week later demands that person give him a DSD license for the toy.
He tries to sell his entire account, Tamriel_Mom buys all his items for 200 bucks. He tries to back out of the sale because it's "too little " for all his "good stuff". I advise him not to do that since it'll further his bad reputation so he actually completes the sale. He informed Tamriel mom "I'd be lying if I said I'll never play through mom's account, so... Starting over at rock bottom again with nothing, level zero, so on, hundreds spent now flying out the window. Hopefully, though, she'll be better accepted and treated well by the community."
A week after that sale and the guise of his mom playing he starts DMing Tamriel Mom and crying about his sold stuff then begging for the stuff back.
I don't know the point of this rant but I'm done being nice to this fuckstick. I suggest everyone avoid this toxic person simply because they will never stop.
https://i.imgflip.com/3ia9x7.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/3ia9x7)
SonoftheNorth
12-03-2019, 06:28 PM
How can you not afford your sub then be buying ebows, then be crying about how poor you are and on foodstamps but have to have way post capped characters.
bunnymustdie
12-03-2019, 06:43 PM
How can you not afford your sub then be buying ebows, then be crying about how poor you are and on foodstamps but have to have way post capped characters.
You know the shit the guy does, where he whines about being disabled, beg and guilt trip people into giving him free stuff/money? He probably does it in real life as well.
Realk
12-03-2019, 08:03 PM
my name is Richard... i want to know why someone puts 2 a's in their name Richaard is weird.
Methais
12-03-2019, 08:06 PM
my name is Richard... i want to know why someone puts 2 a's in their name Richaard is weird.
Maybe he’s a clone. Like how in Heir to the Empire that asshole guy Joruus C’baoth was a clone of Jorus C’baoth, and then in the 3rd book he cloned Luke and the clone’s name was Luuke.
Probably.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-03-2019, 08:07 PM
The extra a is silent.
Murrandii
12-04-2019, 08:14 AM
Speaking with that guy is accepting he will say he's disable and poor every sentence.
His mom CANCELED his account the same moment he does. Simple question?
Why is your "mom" canceling her account?
TheJosh
12-05-2019, 04:07 PM
This fuckstick hasn't canceled his accounts. He's still harassing 2 people in platinum, pretending like he's going to buy gear or characters from them.
Methais
12-05-2019, 05:02 PM
This fuckstick hasn't canceled his accounts. He's still harassing 2 people in platinum, pretending like he's going to buy gear or characters from them.
:lol:
I thought this type of mental illness had become extinct in GS by now.
Please never let this thread die.
:lol:
I thought this type of mental illness had become extinct in GS by now.
Please never let this thread die.
Only thread more legendary is the composer razern falchion thread.
Methais
12-05-2019, 06:35 PM
Only thread more legendary is the composer razern falchion thread.
TLDR? I vaguely remember it but I’m too lazy to find it.
EDIT: Nevermind it’s already bumped :lol:
TLDR? I vaguely remember it but I’m too lazy to find it.
EDIT: Nevermind it’s already bumped :lol:
It was just bumped after I mentioned it.
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?30010-10x-altered-blessable-zested-razern-falchion!!
Murrandii
12-05-2019, 06:38 PM
TLDR? I vaguely remember it but I’m too lazy to find it.
EDIT: Nevermind it’s already bumped :lol:
I knew some people would wanted a peek ;)
Methais
12-05-2019, 06:40 PM
It was just bumped after I mentioned it.
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?30010-10x-altered-blessable-zested-razern-falchion!!
https://i.imgflip.com/3ha5kt.jpg
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-05-2019, 06:48 PM
There are WAY better drama threads than this or the razern thing.
Murrandii
12-05-2019, 06:56 PM
There are WAY better drama threads than this or the razern thing.
how about being mature and bump em for our own entertainment?
BriarFox
12-05-2019, 07:02 PM
Where’s the PC Meltdown Hall of Fame thread? I’ll find it when I get home if no one else does.
Murrandii
12-05-2019, 07:04 PM
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?39770-PC-Meltdown-Hall-of-Fame
TheJosh
12-08-2019, 12:55 PM
Word on the street is OP was finally banned from GS.
Word on the street is OP was finally banned from GS.
Imagine buying a $1300 Character then getting banned shortly after.
Should of just bought some coke.
Methais
12-08-2019, 01:22 PM
Word on the street is OP was finally banned from GS.
Pwnt
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How many people have actually managed to get banned from GS? I know there was Warclaihm, but it's gotto be a pretty exclusive club.
How many people have actually managed to get banned from GS? I know there was Warclaihm, but it's gotto be a pretty exclusive club.
been quite a few i think, i forget the name but there was someone who had kais belt and a bunch of other very high end items that was banned years ago, easily 20k worth of gear in todays money
audioserf
12-08-2019, 02:25 PM
Michaelous
Methais
12-08-2019, 02:31 PM
You have to work really really hard at being a piece of shit to get banned from GS for anything other than repeated afk scripting. And even then your script has to suck royally.
Michaelous
Yeah I think HMC was invented because of him.
Murrandii
12-08-2019, 02:33 PM
Word on the street is OP was finally banned from GS.
Care to explain a bit bro?
Hemlock
12-08-2019, 02:34 PM
Akoto470 Akoto470 is offline
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Hi,
Is the sorcerer you have posted still available? Just an inquiry at this point. Thanks.
This guy is the OP, he has been using a number of different accounts on this forum. He bought the wizard on the Akoto470 account. Contacted me about the sorcerer a few days ago.
TheJosh
12-08-2019, 10:16 PM
Care to explain a bit bro?
He dropped off the face of the earth. His characters stopped logging in and all his discords went inactive. Last anyone heard from him, he was "trying" to buy a spirit bow and UDB UAC gear.
He either got banned or his health problems made him dead, in which case rest in peace.
Derex
12-08-2019, 10:45 PM
I've done business with this fellow. He's legit and prompt.
And a cripple
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-08-2019, 10:46 PM
Folks shouldn't hate so much. Just ignore him, no one is worth hoping they die and shit.
Or call them (accurately) short dicked pedophiles.
Derex
12-08-2019, 10:47 PM
Folks shouldn't hate so much. Just ignore him, no one is worth hoping they die and shit.
Or call them (accurately) short dicked pedophiles.
micro penis
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-08-2019, 10:48 PM
micro penis
DERP DERP LETS DO SOME PUSHUPS!
He dropped off the face of the earth. His characters stopped logging in and all his discords went inactive. Last anyone heard from him, he was "trying" to buy a spirit bow and UDB UAC gear.
He either got banned or his health problems made him dead, in which case rest in peace.
As of a couple hours ago someone on lnet was looking for UDB UAC gear. Was a very old name also.
I forget it right now but was someone I recognized from long ago. So maybe another high lvl character he bought?
gemstonefella
12-09-2019, 12:03 AM
How many people have actually managed to get banned from GS? I know there was Warclaihm, but it's gotto be a pretty exclusive club.
I believe Keith: Kithus/Brinret got the permahammer
Tgo01
12-09-2019, 12:20 AM
I believe Keith: Kithus/Brinret got the permahammer
Kithus? Is he the one about that whole ticket fiasco a few years back? If so I think he quit.
As of a couple hours ago someone on lnet was looking for UDB UAC gear. Was a very old name also.
I forget it right now but was someone I recognized from long ago. So maybe another high lvl character he bought?
Just throwing this out quick while I am here, but I do know who the person that wanted the UDB UAC gear is, and it is NOT the original person from this thread.
Just throwing this out quick while I am here, but I do know who the person that wanted the UDB UAC gear is, and it is NOT the original person from this thread.
Good to nip that in the bud
Realk
12-09-2019, 04:36 AM
just going to throw this out there... kinda uncool to speculate on someones death.... even if they are currently being shunned by the community
Taernath
12-09-2019, 11:37 AM
Speculating on people's death has a proud tradition here on the PC.
Methais
12-09-2019, 11:38 AM
Speculating on people's death has a proud tradition here on the PC.
I wonder if Tamral ever ran over that dude's cat.
TheJosh
12-09-2019, 10:24 PM
I believe Keith: Kithus/Brinret got the permahammer
Yes, keith was banned last EG for AFK scripting. Since it was his 19th offense, it was permanent.
He still likes to lie and say he willingly left GS and he wasn't banned but sources say otherwise (People he had given account access to).
just going to throw this out there... kinda uncool to speculate on someones death.... even if they are currently being shunned by the community
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Fierna
12-11-2019, 05:10 PM
Yeah, read this entire thread here.
Verdict: OP was the victim imho. Dude lost over a thousand bucks after he legitimately bought in with cash into the game, mainly by the High School “you ain’t cool don’t sit at my table” shenanigans of what seems to me an extremely toxic Plat community.
Anyhow, really Popcorn worthy read! :popcorn:
Murrandii
12-11-2019, 05:19 PM
Yeah, read this entire thread here.
Verdict: OP was the victim imho.
shut up you fucking fraud
You're the one repeating ad nauseam you are in your 20s, with a hot body warm beach body dating rich kids that look like tom cruise.
You're a fucking fraud like him
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-11-2019, 05:23 PM
shut up you fucking fraud
You're the one repeating ad nauseam you are in your 20s, with a hot body warm beach body dating rich kids that look like tom cruise.
You're a fucking fraud like him
NOICE.
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Fierna
12-11-2019, 05:38 PM
shut up you fucking fraud
You're the one repeating ad nauseam you are in your 20s, with a hot body warm beach body dating rich kids that look like tom cruise.
You're a fucking fraud like him
There has never been an instance where I typed any of this in my entire life, I have no idea where you’re getting it from. Can you source? should be EZ since you said I supposedly posted it everywhere.
SonoftheNorth
12-11-2019, 05:41 PM
There has never been an instance where I typed any of this in my entire life, I have no idea where you’re getting it from. Can you source? should be EZ since you said I supposedly posted it everywhere.
I read you say all that on lnet during EG.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-11-2019, 05:46 PM
How hot of a body?
gemstonefella
12-11-2019, 06:33 PM
Yeah, read this entire thread here.
Verdict: OP was the victim imho. Dude lost over a thousand bucks after he legitimately bought in with cash into the game, mainly by the High School “you ain’t cool don’t sit at my table” shenanigans of what seems to me an extremely toxic Plat community.
Anyhow, really Popcorn worthy read! :popcorn:
What a horribly bad take.
audioserf
12-11-2019, 07:13 PM
Yeah, read this entire thread here.
Verdict: OP was the victim imho. Dude lost over a thousand bucks after he legitimately bought in with cash into the game, mainly by the High School “you ain’t cool don’t sit at my table” shenanigans of what seems to me an extremely toxic Plat community.
Anyhow, really Popcorn worthy read! :popcorn:
I hate your sig so fucking much and if that’s a pic of you lmao
Also your post sucks and you suck and you should feel bad about both of them
Demihuman
12-11-2019, 11:57 PM
Thanks to all posters. Too tired from a very long day at work to play GS, and this was more entertaining anyways.
Amazing how much drama can derive from a game like this.
Hemlock
12-12-2019, 12:20 AM
^ is this the dude who got banned?
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-12-2019, 08:55 AM
^ is this the dude who got banned?
No, I don't believe he works.
TheJosh
12-12-2019, 12:27 PM
Yeah, read this entire thread here.
Verdict: OP was the victim imho. Dude lost over a thousand bucks after he legitimately bought in with cash into the game, mainly by the High School “you ain’t cool don’t sit at my table” shenanigans of what seems to me an extremely toxic Plat community.
Anyhow, really Popcorn worthy read! :popcorn:
Because plat has the ability to label people HMC? GTFO of here you dumb troll.
On a lighter note, OP tried to get into GS after his ban and was re-banned. His new discord name was Leah1000, he was pretending to be a 63 year old woman that hadn't played GS since AOL days. I wish I could hear the convo OP will have trying to get a refund from Chris in billing later today.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-12-2019, 12:41 PM
Because plat has the ability to label people HMC? GTFO of here you dumb troll.
On a lighter note, OP tried to get into GS after his ban and was re-banned. His new discord name was Leah1000, he was pretending to be a 63 year old woman that hadn't played GS since AOL days. I wish I could hear the convo OP will have trying to get a refund from Chris in billing later today.
You have quite the hardon for this dude, dude.
Fierna
12-12-2019, 12:51 PM
Because plat has the ability to label people HMC? GTFO of here you dumb troll.
On a lighter note, OP tried to get into GS after his ban and was re-banned. His new discord name was Leah1000, he was pretending to be a 63 year old woman that hadn't played GS since AOL days. I wish I could hear the convo OP will have trying to get a refund from Chris in billing later today.
The fact you are so obssessed with this guy tells me there is something you are not telling us.
Fact is this dude bought thousands of dollars of GemStone stuff as a returner or brand new player or whatever and after having a not so good time (to the point where he was so bullied Wyrom was worried for him) he got taken advantage of and people jipped him for all he was worth. Again, not defending the dude or his actions as a person. But call an ace an ace and all that.
Murrandii
12-12-2019, 01:10 PM
The fact you are so obssessed with this guy tells me there is something you are not telling us.
Fact is this dude bought thousands of dollars of GemStone stuff as a returner or brand new player or whatever and after having a not so good time (to the point where he was so bullied Wyrom was worried for him) he got taken advantage of and people jipped him for all he was worth. Again, not defending the dude or his actions as a person. But call an ace an ace and all that.
Fuck off fraud.
OP is a scammer. HE almost bought a char from me but I backed down when he tried to make an installement payment (per month payment).
People need to know he's still roaming. He's a scammer, he WILL steal from people.
As a tight community, we need to be vigilent
Methais
12-12-2019, 01:25 PM
The fact you are so obssessed with this guy tells me there is something you are not telling us.
Fact is this dude bought thousands of dollars of GemStone stuff as a returner or brand new player or whatever and after having a not so good time (to the point where he was so bullied Wyrom was worried for him) he got taken advantage of and people jipped him for all he was worth. Again, not defending the dude or his actions as a person. But call an ace an ace and all that.
Would you care to explain how someone who's getting bullied and otherwise minding their own business ends up flagged as HMC, which is extremely difficult to get in the first place? Because basically the story we were getting is "These people were bullying me and when I asked Simu for help they HMC'd me!"
TheJosh
12-12-2019, 01:39 PM
You have quite the hardon for this dude, dude.
I just wish he'd go away. He tried scamming people, harassed plat players, harassed GMs, and keeps thinking he can trick the community by making new discord and GS accounts.
I do find it humorous that he keeps getting slapped by simu and coming back.
TheJosh
12-12-2019, 01:42 PM
The fact you are so obssessed with this guy tells me there is something you are not telling us.
Fact is this dude bought thousands of dollars of GemStone stuff as a returner or brand new player or whatever and after having a not so good time (to the point where he was so bullied Wyrom was worried for him) he got taken advantage of and people jipped him for all he was worth. Again, not defending the dude or his actions as a person. But call an ace an ace and all that.
The fact you think this guy is a victim makes me think you're either him or an idiot.
He was not bullied, people just told him to fuck off once they saw he was a consistent liar and scammer. If he is the victim then why was he HMC'd?
He only returns for EG so he can try to win raffles then sell the items for money in plat. Which is something the community frowns upon due to being such a small player base.
Fierna
12-12-2019, 01:43 PM
Would you care to explain how someone who's getting bullied and otherwise minding their own business ends up flagged as HMC, which is extremely difficult to get in the first place? Because basically the story we were getting is "These people were bullying me and when I asked Simu for help they HMC'd me!"
HMC doesn’t mean a person is nefarious or a “bad guy” it just means exactly what it says it means a “high maintenance customer”. I would even go so far as to say that Wyrom himself labeled him a HMC not because he was a “bad dude” (he even gifted him a custom altered blink Katana) but honestly because Wyrom was trying to buffer for another potential Michaelous situation aka (someone who might hurt themself). That is to say, Wyrom wanted to sever any GS ties to this person not because of any in-game shenanigans but a potential real world calamitous event.
Methais
12-12-2019, 01:50 PM
HMC doesn’t mean a person is nefarious or a “bad guy” it just means exactly what it says it means a “high maintenance customer”. I would even go so far as to say that Wyrom himself labeled him a HMC not because he was a “bad dude” (he even gifted him a custom altered blink Katana) but honestly because Wyrom was trying to buffer for another potential Michaelous situation aka (someone who might hurt themself). That is to say, Wyrom wanted to sever any GS ties to this person not because of any in-game shenanigans but a potential real world calamitous event.
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TheJosh
12-12-2019, 01:50 PM
HMC doesn’t mean a person is nefarious or a “bad guy” it just means exactly what it says it means a “high maintenance customer”. I would even go so far as to say that Wyrom himself labeled him a HMC not because he was a “bad dude” (he even gifted him a custom altered blink Katana) but honestly because Wyrom was trying to buffer for another potential Michaelous situation aka (someone who might hurt themself). That is to say, Wyrom wanted to sever any GS ties to this person not because of any in-game shenanigans but a potential real world calamitous event.
yea, ok. That's why, right after his newly made GS and Discord accounts were banned, Wyrom posted this:
WyromYesterday at 6:30 PM
Q4 of 2019 has been a crazy time. We're doing our best to keep everyone from being harassed though.
I mentioned this to our Platinum people, but please err on the side of caution if someone new and random starts asking to make purchases, deals, or loans.
Your HMC buddy is the reason for this warning. He was a scammer and would harass people/staff for items.
gemstonefella
12-12-2019, 02:01 PM
HMC doesn’t mean a person is nefarious or a “bad guy” it just means exactly what it says it means a “high maintenance customer”. I would even go so far as to say that Wyrom himself labeled him a HMC not because he was a “bad dude” (he even gifted him a custom altered blink Katana) but honestly because Wyrom was trying to buffer for another potential Michaelous situation aka (someone who might hurt themself). That is to say, Wyrom wanted to sever any GS ties to this person not because of any in-game shenanigans but a potential real world calamitous event.
LOL, you think Wyrom GAVE him a custom altered blink katana? That's funny shit and tells me you'll believe anything. I have a bridge I wanna sell ya....or better yet...a 4x falchion with mech flares for 7 million. LOL.
Murrandii
12-12-2019, 02:05 PM
Fierna is a known troll, don't mind him
Fierna
12-12-2019, 02:13 PM
I don’t know guys, there’s some real situations with people here in this game and in RL. Not everything is a joke, I hope this person lands on his feet and I hope everyone else got their items back (which seemed to me they did).
In all cases, Plat is a real nuthouse by the looks of it.
audioserf
12-12-2019, 02:17 PM
shut the fuck up macguyver
Methais
12-12-2019, 02:17 PM
WyromYesterday at 6:30 PM
Q4 of 2019 has been a crazy time. We're doing our best to keep everyone from being harassed though.
I mentioned this to our Platinum people, but please err on the side of caution if someone new and random starts asking to make purchases, deals, or loans.
Your HMC buddy is the reason for this warning. He was a scammer and would harass people/staff for items.
:lol:
I'M SURE THAT'S A TOTAL COINCIDENCE AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OP
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