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Lucktar
10-29-2019, 08:45 PM
I'm considering buying some characters or creating some characters to help Lucktar level.
What would be the best characters to go about this?
It seems like from the dreavening's the buffs come from Wizard, Ranger, and Monk. I think those are listed in order of the amount of spells given per class.
Is a wizard the best class, followed by ranger, followed by a monk?
Could I just try to create 3 level 20 characters to accomplish this, or do they need to be higher level?
Are their other classes that would be good as an actual hunting partner? I know paladins have a few defensives spells that specifically effect current group members.
Are there other classes I should be looking into?
On another note does scroll infusion make this all unnecessary? I've yet to tackle scroll infusion.
Any input would be appreciated.
Murrandii
10-29-2019, 08:58 PM
Consider 2 things
Synergy AND increase in survability.
Sorcerer got access to 100 and 400 circle. Those with em naturally are less inclined to increase synergy with sorcerer. For example, a cleric or empath overlaps 100 circle. MAge and bard, 400.
BUT, a mage CAN 515 your sorcerer and if you time yourself well, WATCH OUT THE KILLING POWER.
Just for rapidfire, Mage is your number one choice. Mage can also leech so that's more mana. Mage can increase your enchant so you'll buff permanently your stuff. Mage will also 911 your sorcerer AND disk, therefore, better dodge AND less encomberance. Strength with also help you even if you can phase your boxes.
Mage sorcerer combo = RAW power AND best money too ;)
Vishnell
10-29-2019, 09:08 PM
Scroll infusion makes getting outside spells from people almost pointless. With my scrolls i can keep 202, 303, 310, 313, 503, 509, 601, 905, 911, 1204, and 1601 up constantly. There could be others too if i worked to keep them in rotation. Defense is never an issue.
For a younger sorc, if you just had a mana battery so that you could just blast through with 719 all the time, that might be helpful.
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Realk
10-29-2019, 09:20 PM
as a sorcerer your main weakness is not defense, or td.. but manuvers if i was creating someone simply for support for a sorcerer, it'd be to have 618 , 602 and 611.. so ranger.. there are plenty of wizard tools to give you 503 and 509 911... quite a few less rangers active.
Realk
10-29-2019, 09:21 PM
i'll also say if you really need that kind of help you aren't using your own spell list effectively.
Maerit
10-29-2019, 11:55 PM
Ranger is the best sorcerer support, and only in spellbot form. Since 618 is hard to find in scrolls, that's the best support. Second to that, ranger nature resistance on your armor for elemental maneuver attacks.
Secondly, a warrior is excellent support for armor support and armor fittings (depends on your hunting area).
Aside from 618, get yourself some 911 scrolls for extra dodge ranks to help with maneuver defense, and you can get your DS from scrolls if you don't have enough DS already.
None of the resistances require you to own a ranger or warrior since they will last a while.
Temporary padded gear is your friend. You don't get hit enough to wear down temp padding quickly. It can last years at much higher padding levels than your expensive perm padding.
Another trick is to get 208 scrolls, infuse them, and steal 1612 from a paladin (non-F2P) for a boost to CS that is unobtainable via other means. This takes a lot of annoying setup, and is usually not worth the hassle.
caelric
10-30-2019, 12:47 PM
Ranger is best, as was said, as a spellbot.
If you decide to wear heavier armor, a paladin is nice, for the spell hindrance avoidance, but IIRC, it takes a paladin of about level 65 or so to get the full five ranks of that. Might as well be your main character at that point.
Most other things are pretty easily gotten from infused scrolls; having a character as a spell bot (mage or cleric) saves on scrolls, but doesn't give you much you can't get yourself.
If you are talking about someone that goes with you on hunts, a mage is the best so they can rapid fire you, but that becomes tiresome at some point.
Lucktar
10-30-2019, 09:37 PM
What level would I need to get a ranger to, to be able to be a spellbot? 20-30?
Maerit
10-30-2019, 10:17 PM
Can just go to 19, stop there, and use instant migration for spirit mana control and ranger spell ranks. The ranger buffs the sorcerer with 602, 611, and 618.
If you want nature resist, you're gonna have to level that ranger a lot, but that is available from way post-capped rangers regularly.
Lucktar
11-01-2019, 11:06 PM
I worry if I had a high-level wizard as a hunting buddy, it would take the fun out it. I'd have tons of mana and wouldd likely forevermored just 719 things to death. I don't doubt i'd tear through things.
What if I created a wizard and got him up to lucktar's level. Is it possible for one person to level 2 character hunting together? Seems like it would be hard using two windows and swtcing back and forth.
Seems like wizard could use 1 ball spell and then sorcerer could take everything down in the room and both would get exp.
Anyone ever done anything like this?
I'll probably roll up a level 20 ranger as well.
Avaia
11-01-2019, 11:15 PM
I'm considering buying some characters or creating some characters to help Lucktar level.
I'm honestly curious about what difficulties you are having that make you think you need to do this? Don't get me wrong... if that's what you want to do knock yourself out, I am just not sure the ease created will be equal to the money spent/time invested/micromanagement involved.
Lucktar
11-01-2019, 11:46 PM
I'm starting to suspect you are right!
I've pair hunted my ranger and wizard for the last 30 levels or so (both around 80 now). I manually hunt for the most part, and it's really not difficult to manage two windows. Just invest the time to set up macros for your most used spells/skills/etc and get some helper scripts. Once you get past some of the relatively minor challenges of learning the new setup, the benefits are amazing.
Ranger for colors and dex. Wizard for blurs str and thuf. Can also imbed 507, 508, etc.
GSIV Rogue
11-02-2019, 08:45 PM
I'm honestly curious about what difficulties you are having that make you think you need to do this? Don't get me wrong... if that's what you want to do knock yourself out, I am just not sure the ease created will be equal to the money spent/time invested/micromanagement involved.
This.
Realk
11-02-2019, 08:55 PM
I've pair hunted my ranger and wizard for the last 30 levels or so (both around 80 now). I manually hunt for the most part, and it's really not difficult to manage two windows. Just invest the time to set up macros for your most used spells/skills/etc and get some helper scripts. Once you get past some of the relatively minor challenges of learning the new setup, the benefits are amazing.
Right, you get really used to alt-tab pretty quickly, for probably a year or two, hunting was the only thing that I actually used dual monitors for.
Lucktar
11-02-2019, 10:37 PM
I think what I'll end is when and if I get ambitious enough I'll roll up a halfling wizard and dwarf ranger and level them to 20. They can provide spells for my sorcerer. I've been playing one class since 98 will be fun to start over again. It seems much less stressful to create characters now with the ability to change stats and skills so much until 20.
If I like the wizard I might try to get him up with the sorcerer and try hunting them together.
My sorcerer is kicking but. He's in river rest hunting flesh golems & tomb trolls easily at 48. I've been working on getting his CS up through some enhancive and it's now 276.
River's rest has been a blast thanks for all the recommendations.
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