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AnOrdim
09-05-2019, 09:18 PM
Originally Posted by AnOrdim
Should the people who post storyline updates on the forums and on the wiki be allowed to lock that behind paywalls that benefit themselves?


Yes

Hopefully more players take advantage of this little known benefit.

Neveragain
09-05-2019, 09:34 PM
Probably... if you spent dozens of hours writing the articles from scratch as the sole contributor, and talked to them to show them financial hardships, and explained that all proceeds were going to pay the sub to continue producing content. Can you point to an instance when that's happened and they've said no?

In contrast to spending 8 years writing a story, having SIMU take that story, monetize it and then tell you that you have to pay $ to convert to the deity you created. I never thought to tell them my lot rent was due.

Tyronebiggums
09-05-2019, 09:38 PM
Tysong is probably the only one that in my opinion has a soul in that group..but I may be wrong

Maylan is a member, and she’s just the worst.

HebrewToYou
09-05-2019, 11:12 PM
Maylan is definitely the worst.

Gelston
09-05-2019, 11:13 PM
Which is why I think Simu was full of it when they blamed Dreavenings. Sure I'll admit back in the days when I did the Dreavenings outside the bank I would have people complain about the lag while I was casting, but once I realized I was the problem I stopped doing Dreavenings until I could implement my solution of doing groups at the tables. Ever since I made that change I never once had anyone complain about lag during Dreavenings.

That's why I thought it was odd that years later the GMs decided I was causing lag. I don't know if they really thought I was causing lag or if they were looking for a scapegoat or what.

To be fair, you moved to tables because Kenstrom wtfpwned a Dreavening with an invasion.

Tgo01
09-05-2019, 11:34 PM
To be fair, you moved to tables because Kenstrom wtfpwned a Dreavening with an invasion.

I moved to the tables after I crashed the game, that was when I fully realized that I was indeed causing lag :p

Gelston
09-06-2019, 12:14 AM
I moved to the tables after I crashed the game, that was when I fully realized that I was indeed causing lag :p

Lies. I remember how mad you were, threatening to quit GS after the entire dreavening was wiped out. The next Dreavening you did was at the tables.

Tgo01
09-06-2019, 12:33 AM
Lies. I remember how mad you were, threatening to quit GS after the entire dreavening was wiped out. The next Dreavening you did was at the tables.

I was upset but I didn't threaten to quit GS over it, nor did I move to the tables after that.

The crash might have happened shortly after that so maybe this all happened in a short span of time.

Gelston
09-06-2019, 01:18 AM
I was upset but I didn't threaten to quit GS over it, nor did I move to the tables after that.

The crash might have happened shortly after that so maybe this all happened in a short span of time.

You were at the tables for the very next one! I remember we were telling you too, move to tables.

Tgo01
09-06-2019, 01:28 AM
You were at the tables for the very next one! I remember we were telling you too, move to tables.

I remember specifically I moved to the tables because of the crash.

The game crashed, I didn't really think it was the Dreavening that caused the crash and I thought it was just a coincidence, so I tried to do a Dreavening again and the game lagged so badly I thought the game was going to crash again so I exited all of my guys out right away to prevent another crash and that's when I decided I couldn't keep doing this because I was lagging the game and crashing it when there were enough people with me.

It's possible this happened shortly after the invasion killed a lot of people at the Dreavening because I do remember saying another bonus of moving to the tables is that they are sancted so I shouldn't have to worry about an invasion killing everyone again.

Gelston
09-06-2019, 01:31 AM
I remember specifically I moved to the tables because of the crash.

The game crashed, I didn't really think it was the Dreavening that caused the crash and I thought it was just a coincidence, so I tried to do a Dreavening again and the game lagged so badly I thought the game was going to crash again so I exited all of my guys out right away to prevent another crash and that's when I decided I couldn't keep doing this because I was lagging the game and crashing it when there were enough people with me.

It's possible this happened shortly after the invasion killed a lot of people at the Dreavening because I do remember saying another bonus of moving to the tables is that they are sancted so I shouldn't have to worry about an invasion killing everyone again.

I remember specifically you were raging on lnet about ending dreavenings and then you moved to the tables right after. I thought it was hilarious.

Don't get so mad. :(

Tgo01
09-06-2019, 01:42 AM
I remember specifically you were raging on lnet about ending dreavenings and then you moved to the tables right after. I thought it was hilarious.

Don't get so mad. :(

I'm not mad! You're mad!

I do remember being upset about the invasion though because I wasn't sure if the GM was incorporating the Dreavening into the invasion (like "Wouldn't it be cool if these critters attacked these heroes while they spell up? Makes them seem coordinated!") in which case I would have thought that was cool, or if it was all just a coincidence in which case I just wasted like 20 minutes of my time for nothing :p

SonoftheNorth
09-06-2019, 02:18 AM
You do realize I'm not Flimbo right?

Allegedly.

Orthin
09-06-2019, 07:04 AM
This thread fucking rules

💯. There isn’t anyone I dislike on this forum too (forum posters and players are always different/separate) but this is riveting and must read work dump break material.

Neveragain
09-06-2019, 07:25 AM
Why? I don't owe you shit. I'm paying and playing a game from simutronics, any transaction is with them. If their servers can't support my completely acceptable way of playing, and it's influencing your experiences, take it up with them, I owe you fucking nothing whatsoever. We worked with Simutronics to fix the problems. We don't answer to you, you clearly know jack shit about what we've done, you know jack shit about how the underlying code works, you're barely even able to read, definitely not comprehend anything, we don't owe your toxic ass a thing. You're not in a position of power, you're just a fucking crybaby that's fucking powerless and is throwing a tantrum with a holier than thou attitude.

That's right bitches, your sub costs are to pay for Whirlins sandbox. His financial hardship requires it.

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Ragz
09-06-2019, 09:00 AM
Post #515 in another wizard thread with an unlimited power gif.

Coincidence or conspiracy?

You decide

Fortybox
09-06-2019, 09:07 AM
Post #515 in another wizard thread with an unlimited power gif.

Coincidence or conspiracy?

You decide

Ermagerdz you are SO funny. I almost forgot you were a lying corrupt cheater that got away with a warning!

Stumplicker
09-06-2019, 09:40 AM
You do realize I'm not Flimbo right? And have literally never championed or done any of the bullshit you mentioned. But we should really take your word for it.

Why are you even referencing me? Because he said you think monks need enchanting? I'm literally the only person on the planet who has championed the cause of "Monks are fine how they are and have plenty because they're awesome".

Methais
09-06-2019, 10:16 AM
To be fair, you've never struck me as someone who would throw a punch at anyone. Slap maybe. Eye scratch perhaps.

A punch?

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Probably pulls hair too.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
09-06-2019, 10:26 AM
You guys all talk shit. When I used to fight, I did everything I could to win. That would include pulling hair, eye gouging, slapping, ball kicks, titty twisters, etc.

Fortybox
09-06-2019, 10:33 AM
Why are you even referencing me? Because he said you think monks need enchanting? I'm literally the only person on the planet who has championed the cause of "Monks are fine how they are and have plenty because they're awesome".

That’s why you don’t play one anymore.

Methais
09-06-2019, 10:39 AM
No, because you're a one tones toxic piece of shit with nothing functional to add to anything. Fortybox had specific concerns, but even we at least reached some sort of understanding. Folks had problems with the lack of RP, that's incredibly true, and if I were in a position of power, I'd probably do something about it. You're rants are fucking baseless, and you're nothing but a worthless toxic troll in literally everything you do. From every crying post about how monks NEED to have something like enchanting because it's not fair that sorcerers and wizards have shit, to your constant baseless attacks even when disproven. You add absolutely nothing to anything I've ever seen you take part of. Maybe you should do more crying posts about how simu hates monks and quit again, or go on more aliases on Reddit to complain about game companies.

Monks should be able to give karate lessons to earn silver with.

Stumplicker
09-06-2019, 10:41 AM
Monks should be able to give karate lessons to earn silver with.

I can get on board with this.

Methais
09-06-2019, 10:53 AM
When Simu says that HoA isn't the main contributor of lag, they're full of shit, but when Simu says that an organization was abusing game mechanics, they couldn't have possibly been mistaking anything, and it MUST have been HoA, that's the only way to read that statement. Strange how fucking selectively you're choosing to believe what you want to.

I'm pretty sure the difference is that so far, unless I missed something, nobody in HoA has denied anything with this enchanting fiasco. Unless you count BriarFox, who apparently wasn't actually involved, trying to be the public defender from My Cousin Vinny, which didn't do HoA any favors.

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Mobius1
09-06-2019, 10:54 AM
I went to a Reim run once. Someone gave me an orb, and I had just returned to the game, so I really had no clue what I was getting into. I must say, I will likely never go again.

If I have to literally turn off half the settings of the front end, and still can't really even interact with the game or other characters there, I might as well be playing a game with my monitor turned off.

At first I thought it would be neat that it encourages group effort to complete a quest. But then I realized it was a totally robotic experience that is for pure farming purposes.

Is HoA to blame for all the Reim issues? Well, I guess what I consider issues, clearly others do not, as they are happy to participate. But there's still of course the lag, and mechanical benefits earned by those who participate, which does have an impact on everyone. It's something I've thought a lot about, because it's not exactly black and white, cut and dry.

I may not like what HoA does personally, but they are breaking no rules, and who am I to tell them how they should play and enjoy Gemstone? Plenty of them disagree with my play-style, and have utter disgust for me being a thief, and feel that I ruin other people's gaming experience by forcing CvC. I think it's a load of pansy BS, but they are entitled to that opinion nonetheless (At least they can opt out by closing their bags. I can't opt out of the lag except by logging off!). Do I think that HoA is being selfish and self serving by continuing to run Reim nights knowing how it negatively affects everyone else? Yes, yes I do. If it was me, I'd care more about my negative impact on the game, than I would about serving myself and my MHO's interests.

But even so, they are absolutely entitled to do what they are doing, and are breaking absolutely no rules. In the end, Simu deserves most of the blame, as I think pretty much everyone, even those who hate HoA the most, would agree.

Simu has the power to simply pull Reim, yet they won't. They have the power to enact other restrictions that reduce or remove the lag, but they do not. Clearly, they value that extra Reim money over the experience of everyone else. To me, that's sad, and shows the greatest issue most of us know the game currently faces - Pay 2 Win.

Stumplicker
09-06-2019, 10:55 AM
Now that we're at it, I now have a problem with monks. As Methais said, they should be allowed to teach people karate for silver.

Also they should be able to specialize in different disciplines of fighting, like bards learn instruments.

Also after becoming double black belts in Brazilian Karate they should be allowed to participate in Elanthian UFC.

Fuck this thread. Fuck every other thread. Everybody get on the horn to Simutronics right now and make this happen.

Neovik1
09-06-2019, 11:12 AM
I went to a Reim run once. Someone gave me an orb, and I had just returned to the game, so I really had no clue what I was getting into. I must say, I will likely never go again.

If I have to literally turn off half the settings of the front end, and still can't really even interact with the game or other characters there, I might as well be playing a game with my monitor turned off.

At first I thought it would be neat that it encourages group effort to complete a quest. But then I realized it was a totally robotic experience that is for pure farming purposes.

Is HoA to blame for all the Reim issues? Well, I guess what I consider issues, clearly others do not, as they are happy to participate. But there's still of course the lag, and mechanical benefits earned by those who participate, which does have an impact on everyone. It's something I've thought a lot about, because it's not exactly black and white, cut and dry.

I may not like what HoA does personally, but they are breaking no rules, and who am I to tell them how they should play and enjoy Gemstone? Plenty of them disagree with my play-style, and have utter disgust for me being a thief, and feel that I ruin other people's gaming experience by forcing CvC. I think it's a load of pansy BS, but they are entitled to that opinion nonetheless (At least they can opt out by closing their bags. I can't opt out of the lag except by logging off!). Do I think that HoA is being selfish and self serving by continuing to run Reim nights knowing how it negatively affects everyone else? Yes, yes I do. If it was me, I'd care more about my negative impact on the game, than I would about serving myself and my MHO's interests.

But even so, they are absolutely entitled to do what they are doing, and are breaking absolutely no rules. In the end, Simu deserves most of the blame, as I think pretty much everyone, even those who hate HoA the most, would agree.

Simu has the power to simply pull Reim, yet they won't. They have the power to enact other restrictions that reduce or remove the lag, but they do not. Clearly, they value that extra Reim money over the experience of everyone else. To me, that's sad, and shows the greatest issue most of us know the game currently faces - Pay 2 Win.

I'm not sure REIM falls under pay 2 Win though. Most only use their daily premmy entry for REIM. I never re-orb myself and I don't even recall seeing any others doing it as much as people use to do it in the beginning. So if no one is buying orbs then Simu isn't getting any extra money out of this. I have quite a few orbs laying around when they were being sold half off from a few years ago that I plan to use once I go back to a regular account.

I myself was always against pay 2 win but then I started buying DR Books with silvers then buying them with the bloodscrip earned. I'm not really paying real cash at this point but others are. I mean it works... if people want to pay cash for books and sell me them with my in game currencies I'm completely fine with that.

Neovik1
09-06-2019, 11:13 AM
But to note I have purchased some DR entries and DM entries in the past. But it's not something I've done in awhile with real cash.

Methais
09-06-2019, 11:14 AM
This thread fucking rules

This is correct.


Someone call someone else a cuck I’m so close to busting a nut over here from the impotent animosity about Gemstone IV

Reported for being a cuck.


I got a year-long ban for a forums post, so v0v.

wtf did you post?


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Post #515 in another wizard thread with an unlimited power gif.

Coincidence or conspiracy?

You decide

Estild will be along shortly to change it to post 514.5 and blame it on Mana Leech.


You guys all talk shit. When I used to fight, I did everything I could to win. That would include pulling hair, eye gouging, slapping, ball kicks, titty twisters, etc.

I only do suplexes and piledrivers. And flying elbows off the top rope, depending on what's available to improvise with.

Mobius1
09-06-2019, 11:43 AM
I'm not sure REIM falls under pay 2 Win though. Most only use their daily premmy entry for REIM. I never re-orb myself and I don't even recall seeing any others doing it as much as people use to do it in the beginning. So if no one is buying orbs then Simu isn't getting any extra money out of this. I have quite a few orbs laying around when they were being sold half off from a few years ago that I plan to use once I go back to a regular account.

I myself was always against pay 2 win but then I started buying DR Books with silvers then buying them with the bloodscrip earned. I'm not really paying real cash at this point but others are. I mean it works... if people want to pay cash for books and sell me them with my in game currencies I'm completely fine with that.

I definitely don't consider Reim at the top of the Pay 2 Win list, by any means. I also can't speak for orb purchases. But it's certainly a factor in Premie subs, whatever the case may be.

But quite frankly, when I brought up Pay2Win issues in HoA Discord, it was literally me vs. the entire chat room- I was mocked, ridiculed, and scorned. In fact, many turned it into a joke all the way up until the day I was banned from the channel. Even people I once had respect for, I hold in less regard, because of the way they treated me for my views on it, and how blatantly Simu was defended.

But hey, what should I have expected? I might as well have gone to a church on Sunday and told them there is no God. Replace the altar with a Wyrom statue, and we'd have the exact same situation as me in HoA chat.

Oh man, and when I said that Simu has been doing way less Dev outside of Pay 2 Win, since 2016 or whenever it all really started getting crazy - HoA was like little Wyrom zealots going into action to defend him and Simu. HoA has their head so far up Wyrom's arse, they can't even see what's happening!

Does that mean everyone in HoA feels the same way? Probably not. But not ONE person tried to stand up for what I was saying there. Not ONE!! But I GUARANTEE you PC would have ripped you guys to shreds if you tried to make those weak Simu worshipping arguments here. It's why HoA hates PC so much - they can't handle the truth, because it means they are wrong. And that they are a huge part of the Pay 2 Win problem, IMO.

Fortybox
09-06-2019, 11:54 AM
I definitely don't consider Reim at the top of the Pay 2 Win list, by any means. I also can't speak for orb purchases. But it's certainly a factor in Premie subs, whatever the case may be.

But quite frankly, when I brought up Pay2Win issues in HoA Discord, it was literally me vs. the entire chat room- I was mocked, ridiculed, and scorned. In fact, many turned it into a joke all the way up until the day I was banned from the channel. Even people I once had respect for, I hold in less regard, because of the way they treated me for my views on it, and how blatantly Simu was defended.

But hey, what should I have expected? I might as well have gone to a church on Sunday and told them there is no God. Replace the altar with a Wyrom statue, and we'd have the exact same situation as me in HoA chat.

Oh man, and when I said that Simu has been doing way less Dev outside of Pay 2 Win, since 2016 or whenever it all really started getting crazy - HoA was like little Wyrom zealots going into action to defend him and Simu. HoA has their head so far up Wyrom's arse, they can't even see what's happening!

Does that mean everyone in HoA feels the same way? Probably not. But not ONE person tried to stand up for what I was saying there. Not ONE!! But I GUARANTEE you PC would have ripped you guys to shreds if you tried to make those weak Simu worshipping arguments here. It's why HoA hates PC so much - they can't handle the truth, because it means they are wrong. And that they are a huge part of the Pay 2 Win problem, IMO.

The reason why Wyrom set up Discord was to stifle contrary opinions. Discord is a place where the butt smooching occurs. Wyrom is not interested in player feedback unless it’s positive.

This is why he removed feedback from the officials and also why he jumped on the bandwagon for the failed safe space forum coup a couple years back.

Mobius1
09-06-2019, 11:57 AM
The reason why Wyrom set up Discord was to stifle contrary opinions. Discord is a place where the butt smooching occurs. Wyrom is not interested in player feedback unless it’s positive.

This is why he removed feedback from the officials and also why he jumped on the bandwagon for the failed safe space forum coup a couple years back.

I don't know. I offer a lot of contrary opinions on Discord, and outside of people saying I'm being a Negative Nancy, no one has tried to silence me there.

Methais
09-06-2019, 12:05 PM
Discord is ok for GS chat.

Discord as the primary a means of distribution for in game news is a fucking disaster.

Mobius1
09-06-2019, 12:07 PM
Discord is ok for GS chat.

Discord as the primary a means of distribution for in game news is a fucking disaster.

Typical Simu business there, lol. They are happy to use volunteers to do their job for them, for free (Newsby).

Neovik1
09-06-2019, 12:54 PM
I definitely don't consider Reim at the top of the Pay 2 Win list, by any means. I also can't speak for orb purchases. But it's certainly a factor in Premie subs, whatever the case may be.

But quite frankly, when I brought up Pay2Win issues in HoA Discord, it was literally me vs. the entire chat room- I was mocked, ridiculed, and scorned. In fact, many turned it into a joke all the way up until the day I was banned from the channel. Even people I once had respect for, I hold in less regard, because of the way they treated me for my views on it, and how blatantly Simu was defended.

But hey, what should I have expected? I might as well have gone to a church on Sunday and told them there is no God. Replace the altar with a Wyrom statue, and we'd have the exact same situation as me in HoA chat.

Oh man, and when I said that Simu has been doing way less Dev outside of Pay 2 Win, since 2016 or whenever it all really started getting crazy - HoA was like little Wyrom zealots going into action to defend him and Simu. HoA has their head so far up Wyrom's arse, they can't even see what's happening!

Does that mean everyone in HoA feels the same way? Probably not. But not ONE person tried to stand up for what I was saying there. Not ONE!! But I GUARANTEE you PC would have ripped you guys to shreds if you tried to make those weak Simu worshipping arguments here. It's why HoA hates PC so much - they can't handle the truth, because it means they are wrong. And that they are a huge part of the Pay 2 Win problem, IMO.

I have no problem disagreeing with you here on this. I feel like your statement about Simu doing less dev since 2016 is complete bullshit and a made up assumption. Why would I defend an inaccurate statement like that?

Murrandii
09-06-2019, 01:29 PM
Someone call someone else a cuck I’m so close to busting a nut over here from the impotent animosity about Gemstone IV

TABARNAK

Murrandii
09-06-2019, 01:45 PM
Just like to point out it's 4-5 individuals throwing their hate on this topic.

It'd be the same 4-5 individuals when another issue will happen.

Also, notice those 4-5 individuals NEVER try to construct on the matter, only fingers pointing, calling names, try to disrupt reputations and so on.

And some of them don't even play anymore LOL

Mobius1
09-06-2019, 01:56 PM
Well, I'll tell you what. I right here and now apologize to any HoA members that were offended by anything I said.

You guys should understand full well why I have a beef with your MHO, but I don't want any of you to think it's personal. I get carried away and may say some things that were perhaps too harsh, but my intent was not simply to malign and bash your group.

I truly have good friends in your group, and just because we have very differing views on many things, does not make me hate you. I actually just wish you guys would tone down the elitism, and at least do SOME bloody RP events. If you guys did even ONE, I would probably gladly eat my words.

Roblar
09-06-2019, 02:02 PM
I’m not in the MHO but am in the server and did reply on PC before when that argument was brought up about no (or little?) Dev outside pay events with a list Leafiara has been compiling.

I haven’t look at it recently but there obviously has been plenty. Some disagree with the pace or resources devoted from pay take, which is understandable. But saying little or none is just wrong and belittling to the improvements and work done (or just ignorant from being gone awhile or not paying enough attention on small and daily announcements).

Methais
09-06-2019, 02:05 PM
I’m not in the MHO but am in the server and did reply on PC before when that argument was brought up about no (or little?) Dev outside pay events with a list Leafiara has been compiling.

I haven’t look at it recently but there obviously has been plenty. Some disagree with the pace or resources devoted from pay take, which is understandable. But saying little or none is just wrong and belittling to the improvements and work done (or just ignorant from being gone awhile or not paying enough attention on small and daily announcements).

Where can this list be found? I'm curious how much is meaningful dev and how much is shit like "We fixed a typo. SEE? DEV!!!!"

HebrewToYou
09-06-2019, 02:09 PM
http://gstowncrier.com/special_reports/plans-and-dev-in-elanthia-gemstone-changelog-2019/

Fortybox
09-06-2019, 02:12 PM
Just like to point out it's 4-5 individuals throwing their hate on this topic.

It'd be the same 4-5 individuals when another issue will happen.

Also, notice those 4-5 individuals NEVER try to construct on the matter, only fingers pointing, calling names, try to disrupt reputations and so on.

And some of them don't even play anymore LOL

Starts out his paragraph pointing things out.

Accuses 4-5 for pointing things out.

:lol:

Fortybox
09-06-2019, 02:14 PM
Where can this list be found? I'm curious how much is meaningful dev and how much is shit like "We fixed a typo. SEE? DEV!!!!"


Um, horse hair jewelry was released in June. Maybe you should take your h8 elsewhere?!

Neovik1
09-06-2019, 02:17 PM
Well, I'll tell you what. I right here and now apologize to any HoA members that were offended by anything I said.

You guys should understand full well why I have a beef with your MHO, but I don't want any of you to think it's personal. I get carried away and may say some things that were perhaps too harsh, but my intent was not simply to malign and bash your group.

I truly have good friends in your group, and just because we have very differing views on many things, does not make me hate you. I actually just wish you guys would tone down the elitism, and at least do SOME bloody RP events. If you guys did even ONE, I would probably gladly eat my words.

I have no issues with you at all which you already know. I never have issues with anyone in general. Sure there might be some sparring on here from time to time with people. But it's always forgotten pretty quickly. Not everyone is always going to see eye to eye on things that's just the way it is.

Murrandii
09-06-2019, 02:18 PM
Starts out his paragraph pointing things out.

Accuses 4-5 for pointing things out.

:lol:

How can you evolve and become a better person if you are never wrong ?

How can you be a good boss / father /husband if you never admit any kind of mistake but feel the HURGE to do so against anyone and do it ad nauseam?

You're a fascinating contradiction man.

Roblar
09-06-2019, 02:18 PM
Um, horse hair jewelry was released in June. Maybe you should take your h8 elsewhere?!

That one wouldn't count, pay event!

Fortybox
09-06-2019, 02:20 PM
Well, I'll tell you what. I right here and now apologize to any HoA members that were offended by anything I said.

You guys should understand full well why I have a beef with your MHO, but I don't want any of you to think it's personal. I get carried away and may say some things that were perhaps too harsh, but my intent was not simply to malign and bash your group.

I truly have good friends in your group, and just because we have very differing views on many things, does not make me hate you. I actually just wish you guys would tone down the elitism, and at least do SOME bloody RP events. If you guys did even ONE, I would probably gladly eat my words.

Who cares if people get offended. HoA should be disbanded and bans should go to those involved.

Roblar
09-06-2019, 02:20 PM
I mean, looking through the list, it probably does actually as it introduces it to the game (like Mounts) but can be sold to others players for silver or whatever. The final buyer does not necessarily need to pay Simu.

Anyway, not the Dev I meant as it's an item.

Fortybox
09-06-2019, 02:24 PM
How can you evolve and become a better person if you are never wrong ?

How can you be a good boss / father /husband if you never admit any kind of mistake but feel the HURGE to do so against anyone and do it ad nauseam?

You're a fascinating contradiction man.

I don’t always hurge but when I do, I hurge hard. NNNNGGHHH!!

Murrandii
09-06-2019, 02:25 PM
I don’t always hurge but when I do, I hurge hard. NNNNGGHHH!!

Heard nothing

Fortybox
09-06-2019, 02:27 PM
Heard nothing

B/c I don’t care what you say.

Murrandii
09-06-2019, 02:28 PM
B/c I don’t care what you say.

SHOCKING NEWS!

Fortybox
09-06-2019, 02:30 PM
SHOCKING NEWS!

Lalalala can’t hear youuuuuuu.

AnOrdim
09-06-2019, 03:45 PM
wtf did you post?
I posted something about how project manager was a bad title because he canceled all the projects and couldn't manage anyone to get anything done. The post got pulled nearly immediately and I was banned from the forums for sass. I get an email later that day from him saying "whats up with this we never had problems before" to which we went back and forth over how the state of the game was (in still many ways is) and they were ignoring the time and effort numerous other people were putting into explaining why such and such a thing was broken or bad and it ended with me finally telling him and the dev team "Merry Christmas and go fuck yourself".

This was when he was trying to be all "I'm the hip cool PM that is just one of the guys" by calling people out on the forums by posting their subscription details and how if they actually spent any money or not. Basically doing the absolute worst and stupidest things you could do as a company guy.

So it would be more fair to say, and I have said this before, that I was banned for telling him to go fuck himself in an email that he initiated. I was lucky enough to be able to sell off the biggest things I had at the time so it wasn't too bad at the end of the day. Was surprised to come back to see some of the advice was taken (QST is awesome, premium events are in a great spot, been a few prime RP festivals/events) but almost everything else is still the same or worse - Duskruin prices are getting even more out of hand and out of touch, Rumor woods was great in theory but they fucked it up by creating yet another currency that everyone had to buy into, and HoTA still rules the roost as GM favorite MHO.

On top of that, they've managed to start killing off MHO creation in general and apparently are giving up on player-created content in all but name. Expanding the MHO system, putting an extra GM to help out in that area and enforcing the existing rules while increasing the benefits would be a nice start. With how the business is going, they will probably make every MHO event require a simucoin purchase though.

drauz
09-06-2019, 03:49 PM
I definitely don't consider Reim at the top of the Pay 2 Win list, by any means. I also can't speak for orb purchases. But it's certainly a factor in Premie subs, whatever the case may be.

But quite frankly, when I brought up Pay2Win issues in HoA Discord, it was literally me vs. the entire chat room- I was mocked, ridiculed, and scorned. In fact, many turned it into a joke all the way up until the day I was banned from the channel. Even people I once had respect for, I hold in less regard, because of the way they treated me for my views on it, and how blatantly Simu was defended.

But hey, what should I have expected? I might as well have gone to a church on Sunday and told them there is no God. Replace the altar with a Wyrom statue, and we'd have the exact same situation as me in HoA chat.

Oh man, and when I said that Simu has been doing way less Dev outside of Pay 2 Win, since 2016 or whenever it all really started getting crazy - HoA was like little Wyrom zealots going into action to defend him and Simu. HoA has their head so far up Wyrom's arse, they can't even see what's happening!

Does that mean everyone in HoA feels the same way? Probably not. But not ONE person tried to stand up for what I was saying there. Not ONE!! But I GUARANTEE you PC would have ripped you guys to shreds if you tried to make those weak Simu worshipping arguments here. It's why HoA hates PC so much - they can't handle the truth, because it means they are wrong. And that they are a huge part of the Pay 2 Win problem, IMO.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/DJ6s8LVWtqadO/giphy.gif

AnOrdim
09-06-2019, 03:53 PM
I think its very fair to say that most of the item/script creation "development" has been locked behind duskruin and other pay events, in really terrible ways.
Unlock certs for every little bit and piece, some items requiring 5+ certs, each costing over $100.
Limited access to those unlock certs which comes with its own aftermarket sales issues and access issues.
Outlandish pricing for high-end offerings and unreliable access to them for those that do actually try to save up over time.

Look at what they did with Voln certs recently, they created what was asked for and then turned around and charged even more than it cost previously. That's a pretty big "Fuck you" to the players.

Mobius1
09-06-2019, 04:02 PM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/DJ6s8LVWtqadO/giphy.gif

This coming from the guy that got a warning. You're definitely a good source of what is right! :D

HebrewToYou
09-06-2019, 04:08 PM
Look at what they did with Voln certs recently, they created what was asked for and then turned around and charged even more than it cost previously. That's a pretty big "Fuck you" to the players.
To be fair, I believe Wyrom said this was an error and there was quite a bit of confusion over the broken-out Voln unlocks. I think we'll see them in a more sensible pricing scheme at EG.

AnOrdim
09-06-2019, 04:14 PM
To be fair, I believe Wyrom said this was an error and there was quite a bit of confusion over the broken-out Voln unlocks. I think we'll see them in a more sensible pricing scheme at EG.

I took the confusion being people buying the lower cost unlock cert thinking they could get T3-T4 for 75k instead of having to buy the 150k T4 cert.

The certs were clearly labeled, but clearly people were expecting a price break to go from T3-T4 instead of paying the same price as a Tx->T4 cert previously cost (that no one bought last I remember seeing stats).

Methais
09-06-2019, 04:14 PM
I posted something about how project manager was a bad title because he canceled all the projects and couldn't manage anyone to get anything done. The post got pulled nearly immediately and I was banned from the forums for sass. I get an email later that day from him saying "whats up with this we never had problems before" to which we went back and forth over how the state of the game was (in still many ways is) and they were ignoring the time and effort numerous other people were putting into explaining why such and such a thing was broken or bad and it ended with me finally telling him and the dev team "Merry Christmas and go fuck yourself".

This was when he was trying to be all "I'm the hip cool PM that is just one of the guys" by calling people out on the forums by posting their subscription details and how if they actually spent any money or not. Basically doing the absolute worst and stupidest things you could do as a company guy.

So it would be more fair to say, and I have said this before, that I was banned for telling him to go fuck himself in an email that he initiated. I was lucky enough to be able to sell off the biggest things I had at the time so it wasn't too bad at the end of the day. Was surprised to come back to see some of the advice was taken (QST is awesome, premium events are in a great spot, been a few prime RP festivals/events) but almost everything else is still the same or worse - Duskruin prices are getting even more out of hand and out of touch, Rumor woods was great in theory but they fucked it up by creating yet another currency that everyone had to buy into, and HoTA still rules the roost as GM favorite MHO.

On top of that, they've managed to start killing off MHO creation in general and apparently are giving up on player-created content in all but name. Expanding the MHO system, putting an extra GM to help out in that area and enforcing the existing rules while increasing the benefits would be a nice start. With how the business is going, they will probably make every MHO event require a simucoin purchase though.

My only real issue with Wyrom is that dev has no accountability and just does literally wtf ever they want.

But this also isn't really a Wyrom thing, it's more of a Simu thing and predates Wyrom.

The TLDR according to what I've been told over the years is that while the PM technically can make DEV do XYZ, they're basically scared shitless that dev will get butthurt and quit, so they just let dev run wild and wreck everything in sight instead.

I'd imagine this problem has gotten much worse ever since they started getting a cut of P2W revenue and most of them want to work on just that. Which it's hard to blame them, considering they otherwise work for slave wages.

Estild or Coase or whoever could literally nerf every weapon in the game to have a minimum 30 second RT and make all spells have a 20 second cast RT, and there's a 99% chance that Wyrom or anyone else up high on the Simu ladder wouldn't do shit about it.

Dev has no accountability, and they know it.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
09-06-2019, 04:15 PM
Man you guys hate Simu a lot. Why does anyone play at all?

drauz
09-06-2019, 04:18 PM
This coming from the guy that got a warning. You're definitely a good source of what is right! :D

Yeah....you know there is a difference between morally right and factually right....right?

AnOrdim
09-06-2019, 04:20 PM
Man you guys hate Simu a lot. Why does anyone play at all?

Deep self-loathing.

HebrewToYou
09-06-2019, 04:31 PM
Deep self-loathing.
He's not wrong.

Mobius1
09-06-2019, 05:10 PM
Man you guys hate Simu a lot. Why does anyone play at all?

Because we have years of time invested in this game, and there are plenty of things we love about it. And we want the game to last for many years to come, so thus wish for things to get better.



Yeah....you know there is a difference between morally right and factually right....right?


Incidentally, you seem to be wrong on both counts.

For example, the statement "Nothing you have said is right," is factually incorrect. Surely SOMETHING I have said is correct?

Leafiara
09-06-2019, 05:13 PM
:popcorn:

drauz
09-06-2019, 05:16 PM
Incidentally, you seem to be wrong on both counts.

For example, the statement "Nothing you have said is right," is factually incorrect. Surely SOMETHING I have said is correct?

No, nothing you have said is correct.

Mobius1
09-06-2019, 05:18 PM
No, nothing you have said is correct.

I see. Well enjoy your warning, and suck on it too. :)

drauz
09-06-2019, 05:25 PM
I see. Well enjoy your warning :)

Thank you! It has been an amazing experience. I would recommend it to anyone.

Donquix
09-06-2019, 05:34 PM
No, nothing you have said is correct.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-tYZkJ2p54

Murrandii
09-06-2019, 10:39 PM
bump

Goat
09-07-2019, 12:06 AM
Too long; didn't read.

Methais
09-07-2019, 10:33 AM
Man you guys hate Simu a lot. Why does anyone play at all?

Mostly because I make money off of it while I'm already at work pretending to work while getting paid to be at work.

The game itself is cool. It's just that most of the people who run it that are inept autistic sacks of cornhole torpedoes with little to no good ideas and sniff their own farts.

Methais
09-07-2019, 10:37 AM
Thank you! It has been an amazing experience. I would recommend it to anyone.

Can confirm. I got warned once, and when I woke up the next morning I was able to take normal dumps again.


Too long; didn't read.

YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT!

Fortybox
09-08-2019, 11:37 AM
This thread is now boring.

Tgo01
09-08-2019, 01:08 PM
This thread is now boring.

It was fun while it lasted :(

Stumplicker
09-08-2019, 01:25 PM
Thread closed. Failure to foment sufficient faux fury.

Gelston
09-08-2019, 01:40 PM
Thread closed. Failure to foment sufficient faux fury.

This thread got 58 pages in 3 days. It wasn't a failure, retard.

Stumplicker
09-08-2019, 01:42 PM
This thread got 58 pages in 3 days. It wasn't a failure, retard.

Fomentation failed.

Methais
09-09-2019, 09:36 AM
This thread got 58 pages in 3 days. It wasn't a failure, retard.

It failed to last longer.

Fortybox
09-09-2019, 11:08 AM
It failed to last longer.

Lnet over the weekend was boring too.

audioserf
09-09-2019, 11:27 AM
The free premium freeloaders might be starting to drop off and there's no events until EG so that would explain the quiet boring Lnet

Taernath
09-09-2019, 12:31 PM
free premium freeloaders

http://i.imgur.com/usAfG.gif

SylphSorc
09-09-2019, 12:37 PM
Man, what a read.

I felt I had to add that.

Fortybox
09-09-2019, 12:39 PM
The free premium freeloaders might be starting to drop off and there's no events until EG so that would explain the quiet boring Lnet

Kreek and Peam were both on. Astrenoir did provide some Saturday morning retardation but not enough to make it fun. What’s it take to get some good entertainment these days?

Methais
09-09-2019, 12:41 PM
Kreek and Peam were both on. Astrenoir did provide some Saturday morning retardation but not enough to make it fun. What’s it take to get some good entertainment these days?

Cocaine

Fortybox
09-09-2019, 12:46 PM
Cocaine

Astrenoir on cocaine does not sound entertaining at all. It’s already bad enough that he is on poutine.