Back after 10 years and need help with level 63 half-elf rogue

[Marex]

Right now he is sword and board, but I want to try out something new. UAC looks pretty good because he is a Voln master, and I am not sure how I feel about arrow management. I have been trying to read the UAC posts on here but a lot of em are pretty old or are for capped rogues. Just wondering what I should be focusing on at my level. Below is what I have planned out so far, but I am not sure where I should be putting the extra points. Is it more picking versus more combat skills at this point, or am I over looking something else I will need? Also what armor class would be ideal, doubles or brig? It seems like its still worth getting armor ranks even if your going for lighter armors?

Two Weapon Combat..................| 1
Armor Use..........................| 60
Combat Maneuvers...................| 65
Brawling...........................| 130
Ambush.............................| 130
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 5
Physical Fitness...................| 130
Dodging............................| 130
Arcane Symbols.....................| 15
Harness Power......................| 9
Disarming Traps....................| 130
Picking Locks......................| 130
Stalking and Hiding................| 130
Perception.........................| 130
Climbing...........................| 30
Swimming...........................| 20

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 4

394 Phs 527 Mnt left over

[kutter]

Off the top of my head a couple of things: 1. Arcane symbols, you only need 10 ranks; 2. If you have the points, go 2X on CM, more AS/DS and much better maneuver defense; 3. I would either dump MOC, my rogue does not have any at 75, or get it to about 6 ranks which is where my paladin is; 4. You will be fine picking for the next 7-10 trains, then you will find that you get some boxes that you cannot get, mostly traps. At that point either find another way to open them or get picking/disarm up to about 2.2 and you should be fine to cap, you could lower perception to about 1.5 also and gain some points, that is where mine is and I have never not seen a trap.

Personally I think an MSTRIKING ambushing rogue is a scary build and have thought very hard about that route after I built my UAC wizard.

[Marex]

Thank you for the reply Kutter,

If I drop MOC to zero I could get 128 ranks of CM, but I could also bump MOC up to 30 ranks if I only 1.5x CM. Not sure which is better because I havne't had a real fight with UAC yet.

[Derex]

i dont pick but id imagine you can drop either spells or physical fitness to 1x to get your cman to 2x

[Gelston]

How far behind on your guild dues are you?

[Marex]

I was something like 90+ months due on Guild Fees. I couldn't remember my passcode either because I have a new computer and didn't save anything. I got ejected from the guild and had to rejoin after tracking down a diamond for Dunphy.

That is a good idea Derex.. I can spare a little bit of PT to get CM up to 2x. Thanks.

[kutter]

I totally missed that you had 130 PT. While it helps in maneuver defense, being 2X in CM and only 65 in PT would in my opinion, be a better use of points. As far as MOC, it only really depends on what type of hunter you want to be; my rogue does not engage multiple targets. It is to dicey being in offensive after springing from hiding with another critter in the room. I rely on having two weapons and phantom weighting on a lone target.

[Marex]

I would only need to drop 4 ranks of PT to get CM up to 2x.

Two Weapon Combat..................| 1
Armor Use..........................| 60
Combat Maneuvers...................| 130
Brawling...........................| 130
Ambush.............................| 130
Physical Fitness...................| 126
Dodging............................| 130
Arcane Symbols.....................| 12
Harness Power......................| 9
Disarming Traps....................| 130
Picking Locks......................| 130
Stalking and Hiding................| 130
Perception.........................| 98
Climbing...........................| 30
Swimming...........................| 20

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 4

[kutter]

If that is the case I would do that trade in a second. And this is just me, I would still bring PF to 65 and start getting ranks in TWC and try to get that to 2X. Having two chances to get a stun on a target has brought me a lot fewer situations where I would have been left in the open in RT with no hit because of a dodge or a block. Critters dodge really well, far to well in my opinion.

Just to give you an idea, here is my rogue. He is a little wonky right now since I just used a FIXSTAT on him, he was a GS3 baby, and then fixskilled him so he could pick my wizards boxes from the bowels, so he needed a fair amount more picking skill to get to 88 train boxes, ignore some of the oddball stuff, he has on enhancives:

at level 75), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Two Weapon Combat..................| 253 153
Armor Use..........................| 180 80
Combat Maneuvers...................| 227 127
Edged Weapons......................| 254 154
Ambush.............................| 177 77
Physical Fitness...................| 175 75
Dodging............................| 244 144
Arcane Symbols.....................| 50 10
Harness Power......................| 25 5
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 2 0
Disarming Traps....................| 300 200
Picking Locks......................| 307 207
Stalking and Hiding................| 254 154
Perception.........................| 230 130
Climbing...........................| 140 40
Swimming...........................| 86 19

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 4

Before that he was an almost pure hunter with only 2X in pick/disarm and fully doubled in all hunting skills and except for things like undead and animals, he was pretty good at hiding. That being said, the hiding mechanic in the game is so broken, but that is a discussion for a separate thread.

[Marex]

That sounds pretty good. Thank you for the help. What is the best thing to hunt with UAC at level 63? I was hunting Troll Kings and Stone Giants/Stone temple last I remember.

[Derex]

at 65 you should be heading towards krag yeti.

[Marex]

Just an update, I dropped down to 1x PT and got 30 ranks of MOC and the focused strikes after an opening are pretty awesome.

You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a massive troll king!
You have good positioning against a massive troll king.
UAF: 401 vs UDF: 150 = 2.000 (capped) * MM: 114 + d100: 23 = 251
... and hit for 65 points of damage!
Swift descending strike drives a rib into a lung!
Strike leaves foe vulnerable to a followup kick attack!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
>
You concentrate intently, focusing all your energies.
You explode into a fury of strikes and ripostes, moving with a singular purpose and will!
You attempt to kick a massive troll king!
You have excellent positioning against a massive troll king.
UAF: 401 vs UDF: 150 = 2.000 (capped) * MM: 96 + d100: 68 = 260
... and hit for 128 points of damage!
Reverse roundhouse drives through abdomen, stopping only when it encounters the spine!
The troll king continues to struggle for life!
You attempt to kick a massive troll king!
You have excellent positioning against a massive troll king.
UAF: 401 vs UDF: 141 = 2.000 (capped) * MM: 105 + d100: 85 = 295
... and hit for 147 points of damage!
Reverse roundhouse punches through back, organs, and out through the stomach!
The troll king continues to struggle for life!

Your series of strikes and ripostes leaves you winded and out of position.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

A massive troll king slowly pulls itself to its feet.
You are beginning to feel a little fatigued.
[Roll result: 167 (open d100: 67) Penalties: 7]
You crouch, sweep a leg at a massive troll king and connect!
A massive troll king falls to the ground! You deftly regain your footing.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
>
You make a precise attempt to punch a massive troll king!
You have excellent positioning against a massive troll king.
UAF: 401 vs UDF: 122 = 2.000 (capped) * MM: 127 + d100: 30 = 284
... and hit for 92 points of damage!
Awesome spear hand strike penetrates solar plexus and ruptures the heart!
The troll king continues to struggle for life!
The troll king lies still.
Roundtime: 4 sec.