Drug Rehab.

I just got out of the inpatient program.

Currently, I am being mandated to attend a 6-8 week day program.

I started having feelings of depression and experiencing suicidal ideations after about 2 weeks of taking over 12mg of combined benzodiazapens daily (mainly, but not exclusively clonazapen and lorazapen [generic Klonopin and Ativan.])

My CNS responses were incredibly fucked up and I experienced a wide range of symptomology tapering off of the benzos while inpatient; the worst being tremors and a constant free-floating anxiety on the "border" of being a panic attack.

I am still in the process of tapering off of the benzodiazapens. I have been prescribed a neuroleptic called Seroquel which is supposed to help with withdrawal, but I perceive it to only causing extreme drowsiness and ridiculously increased appetite and other side effects that I will choose not to mention.

My day program has so far consisted of spirituality meetings, CBT, free lunch, pamphlets, supervised random urine screenings and much, much more.

I am limited to which OTC medications I can use, and cannot consume any form of alcoholic beverage. I must practice abstinence.

I have Title 18, can appeal for disability cheques, cannot join any form of law enforcement or military agency, cannot legally own any firearm, cannot be drafted, am legally exempt from jury summons, etc.

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That's about it so far.

Edited to Add: I am currently on medical leave from school. It has been highly suggested to my parents that I not continue attending my current university due to the fact that substances will be too easily obtainable. A local commute has been highly suggested in congruence.

[Edited on 3-7-2005 by Stanley Burrell]

[HarmNone]

There's so much I'd like to say, Stanley, but....well, I've already said it some time ago. I'm sorry. I really am. :(

Originally posted by HarmNone
There's so much I'd like to say, Stanley, but....well, I've already said it some time ago. I'm sorry. I really am. :(

Heh, I was going to add a little "BTW, Harmnone was right."

Right now I am at the crossroads of seeing this as an oppurtunity vs. a great hindrance. It has been, and will probably not fail to continue being stressed in these rigorous programs about how "this is a positive thing," as many Rns have repeatedly uttered. I however, am somewhat skeptical about what impact this may have on my future.

[HarmNone]

The impact on your future came before this event, Stanley. It came when you made some unfortunate choices. Now, you have to come to terms with those choices, and your responsibility in having made them. You also have to do something about the damage you've done to yourself, and by extension, perhaps to your future. This event did not bring about the situation. You did.

[Sean]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
I however, am somewhat skeptical about what impact this may have on my future.

I'm curious. If this is the case why'd you go through with it?

[HarmNone]

Judging by the second paragraph of Stanley's post, Tijay, I'd say it became imperative. Suicidal ideations are what often ends up bringing people into the ER. From there, treatment becomes mandatory in many cases.

[Ravenstorm]

Originally posted by HarmNone
The impact on your future came before this event, Stanley. It came when you made some unfortunate choices. Now, you have to come to terms with those choices, and your responsibility in having made them.

I'm put in mind of a quote I read once... "When you choose an action you also choose the consequences of that action."

Getting clean is a good thing and I hope you succeed. I'd wish you good luck except that what you need is not luck at all but rather determination, willpower and a genuine desire to do it.

Raven

[Sean]

Originally posted by HarmNone
Judging by the second paragraph of Stanley's post, Tijay, I'd say it became imperative. Suicidal ideations are what often ends up bringing people into the ER. From there, treatment becomes mandatory in many cases.

Sounds a lot to me like thats just a round about way of saying, he was forced to go through the program. And if thats the case and he doesn't believe that the program will have an impact on his future, then I'm not really sure any progress has been made. But I would be estatic for Stanley to prove me wrong and make a change for the better. But for the time being this whole thing seems Deja Vu to me.

[HarmNone]

It's up to Stanley, that's for sure. Sometimes, it's a bitter pill when we learn what it means to be responsible for our choices.

Stanley and I did some talking about this some time ago. Hopefully, he's learned a few things, and will learn a few more. I'll be pulling for him.

Try this one stan, quit being a loser and stop doing drugs. It's a positive thing.

[peam]

Ignore the nay-sayers, Stan.

Accept responsibility, go through the program, get clean, pick back up, and start new.

This will be a good thing for you, and I'm sure you can do it.

[Edited on 3-7-2005 by peam]

[Sean]

Originally posted by HarmNone
It's up to Stanley, that's for sure. Sometimes, it's a bitter pill when we learn what it means to be responsible for our choices.

Stanley and I did some talking about this some time ago. Hopefully, he's learned a few things, and will learn a few more. I'll be pulling for him.

Don't get me wrong I really do hope he gets better, but reading this thread or threads in the past where hes rebuked what doctors have told him about his addictions I don't think I've ever seen him say he wants to get better. Which is why I ask ... why go through with the program.

[HarmNone]

I don't think, from the sounds of it, that he has a choice, Tijay.

[Sean]

Originally posted by HarmNone
I don't think, from the sounds of it, that he has a choice, Tijay.

That may be the case, but neither you nor I know. I'd rather not assume that he was forced to go through a program if thats not the case. If he wanted to go through with it and self admitted I think it would go a long way to making his case for wanting to get better.

[HarmNone]

Whatever his reasons, I just hope Stanley can get the help he needs. He's got so much potential. I'd hate to see it wasted. :(

[GSTamral]

I've got no sympathies for you here. People make their own beds. Stanley, grow the fuck up and do something with yourself. Or don't. It really doesn't matter to anyone but yourself.

The only people I do feel a bit sorry for is your parents. You're costing them all kinds of money, giving them all kinds of grief, and helping to ensure that they may have to work more years before retiring, and you don't even give a shit.

Fucking pathetic.

Edited to add:
Stanley, if you decide not to move forward and grow up, for the love of all that is sane, let your parents know so they can cut their losses with you. Don't make them pay for the fact that you keep fucking up.

[Edited on 3-7-2005 by GSTamral]

Originally posted by GSTamral
I've got no sympathies for you here. People make their own beds. Stanley, grow the fuck up and do something with yourself. Or don't. It really doesn't matter to anyone but yourself.

The only people I do feel a bit sorry for is your parents. You're costing them all kinds of money, giving them all kinds of grief, and helping to ensure that they may have to work more years before retiring, and you don't even give a shit.

Fucking pathetic.

Edited to add:
Stanley, if you decide not to move forward and grow up, for the love of all that is sane, let your parents know so they can cut their losses with you. Don't make them pay for the fact that you keep fucking up.

[Edited on 3-7-2005 by GSTamral]

:clap:

[peam]

That's more than enough negative posts.

Any others will be deleted.

[GSTamral]

Negative posts?

There's nothing negative about it.

It's called reality.

It's called showing you actually care for the welfare of those you keep hurting when you make bad decisions over and over again.

It's called either choosing to fix what you've fucked up and taking responsibility, or choosing not to, but letting those people know so they can plan their lives accordingly.

Not everyone has the safety net of the parents if they keep fucking up, and actively choose to fuck up more even though they have learned the lesson once.

You just sit there idly and tell him it's going to be ok. No, its not. You can never fix everything that you destroyed. All you can do is try. And that isn't happening on his part. Just a couple months ago, he was posting lamenting how he kept using his father's credit card to buy himself stuff. How many times does a person need to fuck up before you recognize the person as a fuck up?

I never said stanley will permanently be a fuck up. He has the option to choose not to be one. But that takes a tremendous amount of time and effort, because the perception is that he already is one. His parents are willing, yet again, to pay for HIS mistakes, and all I am saying is if he doesn't plan on making use of his parents love and efforts, then he should let them know so that they don't spend more time crying and feeling sorry for themselves over it. His FUCKING PARENTS deserve better. He's not a kid anymore.

My opinion on this situation is this:

1. If you plan on unfucking yourself, then good work. Take the steps and the get the help you need. I've had good friends piss their potential away with drugs and it wasn't great to see. Try and beat it and be glad you have parents to support you.

2. If you choose not to, then it is pretty pathetic. Look to the future and try to improve on it. You're there for a reason. Don't be the guy that everyone spits on.

- Arkans

[longshot]

Quitter!!

[HarmNone]

I didn't see one post in this thread that did not make it clear to Stanley that it is his responsibility, not only for the position in which he now finds himself, but for getting himself straight and becoming a productive human being.

All of a sudden, Tamral, you roll in like you just invented the idea of taking responsibility for one's actions. Actually, that's what the rest of us had been saying.

Stanley is responsible for what's happened to him. Stanley is responsible for what happens to him henceforth. This is not a concept invented by you.

[HarmNone]

:axe: Longshot!

[GSTamral]

<<
I didn't see one post in this thread that did not make it clear to Stanley that it is his responsibility, not only for the position in which he now finds himself, but for getting himself straight and becoming a productive human being.
>>

Which is something he's been doing a really good job of following up on. I never said I invented such a concept. I simply choose to stress it in a much stronger way, while at the same time, making him realize (because many people don't) that he is dragging other people into it, namely his parents, and they deserve better.

<<
Stanley is responsible for what's happened to him. Stanley is responsible for what happens to him henceforth. This is not a concept invented by you.
>>

Nor has that concept been invented by anyone else. Obviously, however, the people he trusts and confides in have not been able to get it through his head enough to make him stop though. Him knowing that he is responsible means nothing if he doesn't act upon it.

Maybe if you tried to read a little bit more into things, you'd realize that I do care that he puts his life together, so long as he is trying to. Unlike you, however, I cut my losses with people who don't care enough to help themselves, and he is dangerously teetering on that line.

[Gan]

<Getting clean is a good thing and I hope you succeed. I'd wish you good luck except that what you need is not luck at all but rather determination, willpower and a genuine desire to do it.>

And a strong friend or two who cares enough about you to help pull you up when you need it in the months/years to come.

I hope you pull through this Stan. Once you decide that its time for a change then you're on the right path to making that happen.

G.

[HarmNone]

By "cutting your losses", what exactly do you mean, Tamral? You have no investment of any kind in Stanley's welfare, now or in the future. I don't see what "losses" you could possibly be cutting. :rolleyes:

If the people Stanley trusts and confides in haven't been able to get through to him, it's damned arrogant of you to think you can. It's up to Stanley. That's all anybody has been saying.

If his parents "cut their losses" it woud make me sick. Parents should be there for their kids no matter what.

- Arkans

[GSTamral]

<<
By "cutting your losses", what exactly do you mean, Tamral? You have no investment of any kind in Stanley's welfare, now or in the future. I don't see what "losses" you could possibly be cutting.
>>

I was referring to a state of mind Harmnone. Many people choose to cut their losses when it is a lost cause.

<<
If the people Stanley trusts and confides in haven't been able to get through to him, it's damned arrogant of you to think you can. It's up to Stanley. That's all anybody has been saying.
>>

And it is quite arrogant of you to assume that is what I was saying. I said its his choice. I simply asked him to tell his parents if he plans on continuing to be a fuck up, so THEY have the opportunity to decide how they want to handle it. It is extremely arrogant on Stanley's part to keep wasting his parents time and efforts like this.

I'd like to see him pull out of this. But that's his choice. If he chooses to keep fucking up, he should at least stop costing his parents more money and time, because that much, he DOES owe.

[longshot]

http://embracingthefever.com/media/klonopinac.jpg

Stanley, I baked you some cookies.

It has been mandated to me that as Harmnone noted, after an interview process at the ER, it was determined that I had no chance of a self-admittance and that I would in no way be elligable for 3-day release papers, which I was in quite the hurry to sign my first night on the dual-diagnosis unit. The day-program that is in direct association with the main unit has made it quite clear that I *must* go through with this program or there will be legal repercussions.

That being said, I do not intend to incur any of the repercussions that would be a result of me not attending said program. As far as the questioning of how this will play into my future, that was a selfish thing to say and I am hopeful that it is these selfish and defeatist mentallities, amongst many other things, will be treated properly through this program and further psychological treatment.

On the spectrum of addiction, it is quite obvious that this type of intervening is needed. Every day, sessions are held in which each individual within a group is asked to judge their cravings for substances on a scale of 1-10, in which progress reports, as well as feedback from Rns and clients can be made. I have answered questions old and new with absolute honesty throughout this process as I do wish to be provided with the best results through treatment and be able to come out of this a better person with zero chances of ever having a relapse.

As far parents go, this entire process has made me realize how lucky I am to have a mother and a father who are willing to make tremendous sacrifices for their son to get him serious help. I know that the magnitude of caring and support, witnessing the patience, and respecting the determination of these compassionate people, that I can always use this as a motivation factor to never, ever slip into this kind of destructive, downward spiral again. It is in somewhat of a sick way, that this incident has brought us together now more so than ever. Lastly, I am thankful that my insurance company is covering most aspects of this treatment.

[GSTamral]

Hold that attitude for the rest of your life. Keep with that train of thought not just through the program but afterwards. Over time, opinions can change. Negative is harder to erase than positive, but over the course of time if you keep at it, you won't be a fuckup any more.

Bottom Line: You've got work to do. A lot of it.

[longshot]

Stanley, your school called.

They want to know what to do with your keyboard?


http://www.inflict.org/images/drug/klonopin.jpg

[HarmNone]

Sounds good, Stanley. Now, it's all up to you to make it good.

Your parents sound like good people. Like most parents of any worth at all, they are going to be there for you through thick and thin. Nobody "plans to be a fuckup". People make mistakes. It's part of being human. Responsibility is the key to rectifying those mistakes, picking up your life, making something of it, and giving something back to the parents who have given your their hope, their love, and their trust.

I wish you all the best, Stanley. I really want you to come through this with a new lease on life. I'm convinced you CAN do it if you want it badly enough. It's not going to be easy, and it's not going to be quick. Yet, very few things of worth ever are.

[HarmNone]

Longshot, that's enough.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I don't get it, why are the mods treating Stainley unlike any other poster here (by mods I mean Peam and Harmnone). I understand you like Stainley, but what warrants the special treatment that says any post deemed negative will be deleted?

Since when has the PC ever had that rule? Hell, 50% the posts would be gone were that the case.

Just curious why we should treat one fuck up different from any other fuck up.

Edit to add: Good luck getting clean. Hope it works for you.

[Edited on 3-7-2005 by Suppa Hobbit Mage]

[peam]

I can.

You're more than welcome to start another facist moderator thread. I don't think I've had one in my honor yet.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by peam
I can.

You're more than welcome to start another facist moderator thread. I don't think I've had one in my honor yet.

I <3 martyrs. Just wanted a straight answer. So it's a power thing with you, cool. Tells me a lot about a person.

[longshot]

Okay,... too far.

Stanley, if people here sound harsh, it's because we care and want to see you pull through.

Don't look at this as a problem. Think of it as an opportunity. You have a real opportunity to change your life.

I know you're concerned about your future. Everyone is, it's only natuaral. However, you really have to focus on getting well now.

A member of my family has gone through this. I do understand it's difficult.

I hope the pictures didn't make you want to get high again, and that they gave you a chuckle. You can call me a dickhead too if you feel like it.

Just come out of there fired up to do something good with your life. You still have tons of opportunities.

Just come out of there fired up to do something good.

[HarmNone]

Okay, SHM, I'm going to be honest with you. Stanley has been a pain in my backside since he came to these boards. I don't hesitate to say that, since Stanley is already well aware of it. So, don't go assuming any special liking on my part for dear Stanley. Such doesn't exist.

I did not tell anybody not to post negative posts. I have asked Longshot to stop posting with nothing more than a picture of drugs and a stupid comment. It's not relevant to the conversation in any way and is, therefore, off topic. If he has something to contribute to the discussion that is ongoing, more power to him.

Edited since Longshot posted something that contributed very much to the conversation. Thanks, Longshot. That was very well said. :)

[Edited on 3-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[MPSorc]

I have wondered where you were the past few days, if it was posted i missed it. Welcome back and good luck cleaning yer system/life out.

How is it not relevant? The original post was about drug use and seeking help. longshot's posts do have something to do with drugs, and in particular, Stanley's case.

- Arkans

[HarmNone]

The original post was about Stanley being mandated to rehab. Pictures of pills, captioned with silly comments, have nothing to do with rehab. Longshot understands it was a bit much. Why is it that you can't understand it?

By the Grove, I get tired of explaining things to you, Arkans. It's like trying to teach a rock to talk. It simply doesn't accomplish anything.

[Edited on 3-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[Diamondback]

There will always be those who like to poke and prod others just to see them squirm.

There will also always be those who like to take a contradictory position and argue technicalities and use every loophole to try to not give in.

You do a great job and show huge reserves of patience in dealing with them all HarmNone.

[HarmNone]

:) Thanks, Diamondback.

Although I've been known to get a bit miffed from time to time, I really do love these boards and most of the people who post here. We've got a pretty lively crew, and a very broad mix of personality types. It keeps things interesting.

[hectomaner]

i'll throw my bit into the mix

first off, i'd like to say that those picture posts, however innapropriate they MAY possibly be, were fucking funny, they made me laugh

stanly, i dont know you, but good luck. dont get too down, its gonna suck for a while, and you'll think its not worth the effort, and various other things along those lines, at least if you take it seriously, you will have those thoughts along your journey.

and as for not knowing if its an oppurtunity, or hinderance, trust me, it is a GREAT oppurtunity. so many people could only wish for the oppurtunity to get clean and start over

its a hard thing to do to get clean, and even harder to stay clean. after 4 years of heavy cocaine/crack abuse, followed by 3 years of heroin abuse, and heavy drinking all along the way, i found myself in the same situation when i was 19 (without the legal issues it sounds like are surrounding your case), a lot of depression, anxiety, insecurities. i didnt know what was going on, how i got to where i was, and i was scared. and i made a few calls looking for help and found an inpatient treatment center that i chose to go to. 60 days, and it was hell, learned a lot, about me, and my addiction, my choices, and that kinda stuff, and moved into a sober living after and stayed sober for like 80 days all together, and then moved back home and went back to doing what i did best. that lasted about 9 months, and i ended up in the hospital for a heroin od, and then 2 days later for a lethal overdose of methadone/diazapam, putting me in a coma for 13 days, and hospitalized another 20 afterwards, and went back into treatment again. luckily, as you said, i had parents willing to make extreme sacrifices for me (the treatment center did not accept insurance, only cash, and 2 runs of 15 grand each, well, thats one hell of a sacrifice to make, especially when the odds werent in my favor) and 6 months later i felt the need to use, yet again, and ended up in a crack motel on Rosecrans in compton for 3 weeks smoking crack with a 44 year old prostitute. luckily that time was enough for me and i have yet to have the need to drink/drug since then.

it took me a long time to actually realize that what i was doing wasnt a waste of my time, and was actually the first thing i was doing right in my life. it seemed like a huge burden over my head doing what i was doing trying to stay clean, mostly because things were kinda bad at first, i was broke, i was living in a house with 10 other guys, no job, no car. but things got better, i found a job, money came in, kept doing the right thing, and i'm still working for the same company, i have my own place now, i have friends again, and i can do things in life that i couldnt do before, because addiction is a full time job.

anyway, just keep one thing in mind, if you stay clean, it gets better. if you dont, it most likely wont, and probably get worse. so either way you choose to go, i wish you good luck

(note: some of the things i say dont apply to all people who drink or use drugs, only the ones that have lost the choice and control over their usage)

[HarmNone]

Thanks for posting that, Hectomaner. It's always good, I think, to hear from someone who's "been there, done that". I'm glad you were able to come through it as well as you have, and I know your parents don't regret one dime of what they spent to get you clean. :)

[hectomaner]

yeah, also when you get IMs from your mom like i did today, you know you are doing the right thing

mom (3:25:12 PM): sending you a little hug
me (3:25:28 PM): ?
mom (3:25:56 PM): doing a lot of cleaning, bringing back bad memories
me (3:26:01 PM): ahh
me (3:26:02 PM): heh
mom (3:26:07 PM): miss ya, so I'm sending a hug
me (3:26:12 PM): thanks
mom (3:26:14 PM): I'm very proud of you

[Keller]

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I don't get it, why are the mods treating Stainley unlike any other poster here (by mods I mean Peam and Harmnone). I understand you like Stainley, but what warrants the special treatment that says any post deemed negative will be deleted?

Since when has the PC ever had that rule? Hell, 50% the posts would be gone were that the case.

Just curious why we should treat one fuck up different from any other fuck up.

Edit to add: Good luck getting clean. Hope it works for you.

[Edited on 3-7-2005 by Suppa Hobbit Mage]

They are trying to keep the hippie-love-fest clean.

I don't blame you for not understanding. It's not your fault; it's your parents fault. Did they ever hug you? Not even once? That's sucks man. :(

To Stanley -- You're too smart and have too much potential to let it go to waste. Your posts so far have been too passive. It's been about hope that the program/drugs work for you. You've got to make it work for yourself. Every morning, mid-day, afternoon, and evening you've got to make the right choice. It's tough. It's really tough. But that's the only way it's going to work. You've got to do it, it's not going to do anything for you. You've got to lose that attitude.

From the sound of it you've got some concerned people in your life who want the best for you. As Tamral inappropriately pointed out, people are bending over backwards hoping against hope that you'll make the right choice. Don't dissapoint them. Don't dissapoint yourself.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by hectomaner
yeah, also when you get IMs from your mom like i did today, you know you are doing the right thing

mom (3:25:12 PM): sending you a little hug
me (3:25:28 PM): ?
mom (3:25:56 PM): doing a lot of cleaning, bringing back bad memories
me (3:26:01 PM): ahh
me (3:26:02 PM): heh
mom (3:26:07 PM): miss ya, so I'm sending a hug
me (3:26:12 PM): thanks
mom (3:26:14 PM): I'm very proud of you

Hectomaner, that post made me smile. I'm sure your mother is very, very proud of all you've done. You should be, too. :)

Haha You loser.

[xtc]

Originally posted by RangerD1
Haha You loser.

Einstein chimes in again.....every time you post a saying comes to mind. "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

Stanley best of luck, it is up to you.

[Back]

You can do it, Stan. You the man, yo.

[DeV]

Yep... good luck with the program, Stan. I hope everything works out for you.

[Miss X]

You are in my thoughts Stan. I really hope the CBT is helping you, it's such a good form of therapy. You have my screen name if you wanna talk, you just need to make this a possitive life changing experience and I'm certain you can do that with a little hard work! :)

Oh.. And ignore the fuckers trying to make you feel bad hon, you can bet your life there is no one looking out for them... Hence the bitterness. ;)

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by peam
That's more than enough negative posts.

Any others will be deleted.

:lol2:

Good luck Stanley. I was actually going to write a nice post until it was mandated that 'mean' posts will be deleted.

So I'll just stick with good luck.

[Arshwikk]

<<If his parents "cut their losses" it woud make me sick. Parents should be there for their kids no matter what.

- Arkans>>


For the most part I agree, and certainly in this case. While a person must take responsability for their decisions, sometimes they need help, and often even prodding. I would certainly support my son if he fell into a similair situation.

Also, I am tired of hearing people blow Stan shit too. I'm not saying he isn't mainly responsible, he is, but it's not so black and white as people make it out to be. I doubt anyone here can say they've never tried some kind of illegal drug (or legal and unprescribed) or in the very least had alcohol. Just because you are not an addict as a result does not make you a better person per say. The fact is, there are chemical and biological differences in all of us, genetic dispositions, if you will. Some of you people are lucky, and that's all there is to it. I am one of those people. Will isn't always some mystical force you produce within yourself, there is actually science behind much of it. Granted, again, we are all responsible for our ultimate decisions to a greater degree then not in my opinion.

Let us also not forgot other people have free will too. If I die in a car collision later today, don't forget not only did I decide to drive, but so did the other person who may have blind sided and killed me. So who's decision killed me then? Both of ours. Often it is not our own decisions alone that will decide our fate, and I applaud Stan's parents for actively deciding to held Stan, as well as Stan himself.

Buck up Stan, it may be a small world, but the alternate endings are infinite. Once you are clean and free, you will still be able to do anything you dream.

-Matt

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Arshwikk
I doubt anyone here can say they've never tried some kind of illegal drug:)
or in the very least had alcohol.A little.

Stan, man! :( At least I know you can beat this, so I don't have to worry too much. Kick some drug ass!! :)

Einstein chimes in again.....every time you post a saying comes to mind. "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

^

Ooooh. You got me again. Do you actually stay up at night thinking up these "witty" insults?

[Edited on 3-8-2005 by RangerD1]

Just because you are not an addict as a result does not make you a better person per say. The fact is, there are chemical and biological differences in all of us, genetic dispositions, if you will
^


Every male member of my family is an alcoholic and there are several drug addicts thrown into good measure, yet...I'm neither. Hmmmm

[Hulkein]

xtc just likes talking shit.

[xtc]

Originally posted by RangerD1
Einstein chimes in again.....every time you post a saying comes to mind. "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

^

Ooooh. You got me again. Do you actually stay up at night thinking up these "witty" insults?

[Edited on 3-8-2005 by RangerD1]

No, it is just that every small minded, ignorant post you make, brings them to mind.

[Parkbandit]

Wow.

I didn't realize that MODs can now censure responses if they personally don't like them or agree with them... regardless if they are not breaking any rules of the board.

Where do I sign up to be a MOD like this? Well, besides www.klaive.net

While I do not agree with the Stanley bashing in this case.. I certainly believe that as long as it's within the guidelines of the Terms of Service, that the content should remain.. regardless if the MOD likes it or not. That is why I frequent these boards.


To Stanley: Clean up. Glad to see you getting help.

To the MODs: Stop it. It's a slope you don't wanna go on, because it's extremely slippery.

[Warriorbird]

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Not sure that was directed at me.. but since I don't believe in God, I'll just remain confused.

"Too weird to understand"

No, it is just that every small minded, ignorant post you make, brings them to mind.

^

Small minded? Ignorant? Okay. so please tell me what I don't know about drugs and their usage. I'm somehow misinformed when I believed that anyone who uses drugs (or anything else for that matter) to the point of dependency is a loser?

I'd love to hear you explain this one.

[The Cat In The Hat]

Stanley, my thoughts are with you and I know you're strong enough to beat this. I'm really proud of you that you stepped up to the plate and came out about it.

We all have our addictions be them Drugs or GEMSTONE or whatever else consumes the hours of our days.

An addiction is an addiction. PERIOD. No matter what it is. Some addictions need help. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Delirium]

They wanted to send me to something like this as well but luckily my insurance didnt cover it so they didnt force it on me. I went to a day treatment thing for a while but it wasnt for drug use solely. It was more of a general mental health thing. Having your personal issues brought up in front of strangers does stink.

12 mgs a day! Thats quite a bit to do on a daily basis. I only got prescribed 30 mgs/month of ativan. How did ya get access to that much benzos? I took 30mgs once and blacked out for 3 days and im pretty tolerant to most meds.

I think everyone who is saying drugs are for losers dont understand mental illness. It isnt as cut and dry. It isnt lethal so if its the only coping method ya have its better than trying to off yourself. It isnt the same as choosing to do drugs to fit in or be cool.

I had the same experience as you with the seroquel. It seems like a powerful sleeping pill that makes you a lil cloudy in the head. I saw no use for it except when i wanted to sleep but my head was too damn loud to accomplish it. When i was first prescribed it i looked online and its an antipsychotic. That freaked me out til i researched a bit and found they use it for other things as well.

Just curious if you have a one-on-one psychologist? To me with my insanity that has been the most helpful. None of the group crap or chemical labotomies they push on everyone(psych meds). Even the inpatient hospital stuff and 72 hour holds wernt all that helpful. Could be im incredibly socially phobic but i saw no benifit from most of the things. Having someone to talk to about it that is trained and can understand did some tho.

You know. I'm pretty fucking tired of people saying that for me to have an opinion that doesn't coincide with theirs that I obviously must have no clue as to what goes into it.

You might as while justify Micheal Jackson by saying look man, you don't know what it's like to crave kiddy sex all the time.

The fact is, you as a person have a responsibility to live your life, no one can do it for you and a real man (or woman) doesn't make fucking excuses.

If you fuck up, then you fuck up. If you have what it takes to do something about it and turn things around then more power to you, but until you do so you're a fucking loser. I'm sorry if that offends anybody..wait...no I'm not.

I don't recall talking to anybody else except the guy who started the thread and you'd like he'd be big enough to accept it with the way he has so vehemently espoused his opinions on these boards in the past.

The point of all this is that I've been there, I have the genetic disposition, the social excuse and people close to me have succombed to addictions, but despite all these valid "reasons" to become a druggie I still haven't and *IF* I ever did I'd be a fucking loser. So please don't get all pissy at me if I don't suscribe to the loser mentality.

[DeV]

I see your point Ranger. I'm also assuming you are referring to the abuse of either an illegally obtained drug or a prescription drug, when someone is purposely over-medicating or taking the drug when they don't have an illness to justify its use. Prescription drugs when properly used to treat a condition/disease/illness of course being the exception and not the rule when we're talking about a subject such as this. Either way some people must rely on certaing types of prescribed drugs and others just have no fucking excuse for their dependency.

Well, lets just say I have no problem with someone taking aspirin for a headache or (whatever) for cancer.

[Hulkein]

:thumbsup:

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by RangerD1
Well, lets just say I have no problem with someone taking aspirin for a headache or (whatever) for cancer.

but after a while when those people become addicted to the opiates perscribed to them they become losers right? or those people perscribed opiates for severe pain that become addicted and end up having to go out and get them by other means and sometime end up on something else, such as say heroin. makes them a loser right?

absolutely

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by RangerD1
absolutely

figured you'd say that. its so sad when people just dont understand things like that, yet cast judgement anyway

I probably understand it more than you think.

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by RangerD1
I probably understand it more than you think.

if you understood it at all, you wouldnt make a comment like you did

[The Cat In The Hat]

My mom tore the rotator cup in her shoulder, very painful. She had to have surgery which led her to taking prescribed painkillers. Doing so at the prescribed rate she became addicted and had to be weened off them eventually. This does not make her a loser, im sorry but that reasoning doesn't hold up in some cases.

[Sean]

In your opinion it doesn't and in his opinion it does. Neither one of you are any more right than the other.

Assume all you want.

[Bobmuhthol]

Jack Bauer used heroin as part of his cover. He became addicted and eventually quit. He lost his job over it, but Jack Bauer is no loser.

She had to have surgery which led her to taking prescribed painkillers. Doing so at the prescribed rate she became addicted and had to be weened off them eventually

^

Well, she obviously had the strength to be better than the drugs. Sounds like she did alright for herself.

[xtc]

Originally posted by RangerD1
No, it is just that every small minded, ignorant post you make, brings them to mind.

^

Small minded? Ignorant? Okay. so please tell me what I don't know about drugs and their usage. I'm somehow misinformed when I believed that anyone who uses drugs (or anything else for that matter) to the point of dependency is a loser?

I'd love to hear you explain this one.

I can see from your posts on Islam that you're smarter than your other posts. What I don't understand is why you would denigrate Stanley who is obviously trying to get clean. Why must you always play the asshole?

how many times does one "TRY" to get clean before its just the SOS?

[The Cat In The Hat]

Originally posted by RangerD1
Well, she obviously had the strength to be better than the drugs. Sounds like she did alright for herself.

Perhaps Stanley does too.

So Stanly can say what he wishes to say about Soldiers, but Ranger says something about drugies and its wrong.....

:cough:Hypocrits:cough:

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Dave
So Stanly can say what he wishes to say about Soldiers, but Ranger says something about drugies and its wrong.....

:cough:Hypocrits:cough:

Agreed.

Well.. I agree with what you are saying, just not your horrible spelling.

:P

[The Cat In The Hat]

Originally posted by Dave
So Stanly can say what he wishes to say about Soldiers, but Ranger says something about drugies and its wrong.....

:cough:Hypocrits:cough:

I musta missed the soldier comments. Soldiers and Drug addiction are hardly in the same catagory though.

I know these forums are a free for all, but there are real people attached to these posts.

[Keller]

I can see where the mercenaries in this thread are coming from. Stanley pissed you off by calling you all bitches, and now you want to call him a loser.

I get it.

Let's drop it.

[TheRoseLady]

Stanley - I hope that you stick to your resolve and make the best of your opportunity. Your decisions dictate the kind of life that you lead, and I hope that at the end of the day - you can be happy with your choices.

I should just cut it short now because I can't think of one decent thing to say to Dave, because I don't think that he would even be able to fully comprehend anything I had to say.

For those who are giving heat to the Mods. There's a time and a place for everything. Sometimes you have to let your common sense of decency take over and guide you. This is one of those times when you should be more judicious of what you have to say, and especially if this is the appropriate time to be trying to make a case. Somethings are best left alone, choose your battles wisely.



[Edited on 3-9-2005 by TheRoseLady]

I thank each and every one one of you for your sympathy and support.

Thank you,

- Stanley.

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by The Cat In The Hat
I musta missed the soldier comments. Soldiers and Drug addiction are hardly in the same catagory though.


Disregard the categories, Stanley made it quite clear that he thinks everyone in the military is a bitch with subpar intelligence.

[Ilvane]

Stan hon, I wish you a lot of luck and will be hoping that it works out for you.

I would delete the negatives too, for the record, because there is a point where common decency kicks in.;) Thanks for posting TRL, you make what I had to say easier to say. Otherwise I'd just be telling off the idiots.

-A

Originally posted by TheRoseLady
Stanley - I hope that you stick to your resolve and make the best of your opportunity. Your decisions dictate the kind of life that you lead, and I hope that at the end of the day - you can be happy with your choices.

I should just cut it short now because I can't think of one decent thing to say to Dave, because I don't think that he would even be able to fully comprehend anything I had to say.

For those who are giving heat to the Mods. There's a time and a place for everything. Sometimes you have to let your common sense of decency take over and guide you. This is one of those times when you should be more judicious of what you have to say, and especially if this is the appropriate time to be trying to make a case. Somethings are best left alone, choose your battles wisely.



[Edited on 3-9-2005 by TheRoseLady]
TRL why sugar coat it? He fucked up and has to face what he has done to himself. Let us hope he does not revert to his old ways and become a drain on society.

He is the one to decide weather he wants to stay a shit bag or become something useful to society. In the end that is his choice, and his alone.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I would delete the negatives too, for the record, because there is a point where common decency kicks in.>>

That is because you are too spineless to deserve to exist. You don't delete negative posts about anyone else.


Typo edited.

[Edited on 3-9-2005 by Bobmuhthol]

[Ilvane]

:asshole:

The American way, isn't it Dave??

I'm glad someone like you is serving the country and having idiot thoughts like yours.

I suppose you're perfect, too.

-A

[Bobmuhthol]

<<The American way, isn't it Dave??

I'm glad someone like you is serving the country and having idiot thoughts like yours.

I suppose you're perfect, too.>>

I can't believe this is the post succeeding your previous.

You: "Nobody should say anything bad about Stanley Burrell because he is a recovering drug addict."

Not You: "Yes they should."

You: "You're an idiot and I dislike having idiots like you volunteering to defend my country."

Join the military, stop complaining about people that don't support drug addicts, or just STFU.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Keller
I can see where the mercenaries in this thread are coming from. Stanley pissed you off by calling you all bitches, and now you want to call him a loser.

I get it.

Let's drop it.


Stan is not the one who pissed us "mercs" off.

It is the selective moderation on the PC that has the mercs pissed

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Ilvane
:asshole:

The American way, isn't it Dave??

I'm glad someone like you is serving the country and having idiot thoughts like yours.

I suppose you're perfect, too.

-A

this is no worse than calling someone useless to society (drug user) or using racial slurs like Bob did

It should be removed and you banned for one month

[Bobmuhthol]

<<or using racial slurs like Bob did>>

Wait, what?

Are you fucking serious?

[Warriorbird]

Not that you'd ever do anything like that, TOJ. I remember a post of yours causing someone to quit running this forum it was so insensitive.

I think the main issue is a question of moderation. Given as to all the recent crap in Off Topic (IE, the return of the joke thread) I'm not seeing where people being an ass to Stanley because he was an ass to them is all that bad.

Sure, hopefully folks'd be above that... but... think about what other stuff gets by.

I'm much rather see insults than the racial and sexual slurs that are freely allowed.

[Edited on 3-9-2005 by Warriorbird]

Originally posted by Ilvane
:asshole:

The American way, isn't it Dave??

I'm glad someone like you is serving the country and having idiot thoughts like yours.

I suppose you're perfect, too.

-A

Perfect, no I am far from it. I have many flaws, but I face them and do my best to correct them. I don't do drugs, because I understand the repercussions and I don't want to be somebody like Stan. I also have better things to do with my time, and my life. Most importantly, people depend on me and that alone is reason enough for me not to become a fuck up.

[Edited on 3-9-2005 by Dave]

[Bobmuhthol]

I'd seriously like to see one racist post of mine.

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Ilvane
Stan hon, I wish you a lot of luck and will be hoping that it works out for you.

I would delete the negatives too, for the record, because there is a point where common decency kicks in.;) Thanks for posting TRL, you make what I had to say easier to say. Otherwise I'd just be telling off the idiots.

-A

How about you show some common decency and stfu.

[Warriorbird]

As little as I agree with the negative posters, I think deleting their posts here would go against the spirit of this place.

I personally wish Stanley good luck. I've seen a lot of my family struggle with addiction of various sorts. I've struggled with it too. It takes a hell of a lot of work to get through.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I don't have any sympathy for you Stainley, though I will say I support your trying to stop being an addict.

I have sympathy for people/things that cannot control their plight. You can. Good for you that you are trying or working towards removing yourself from your addiction.

[Brattt8525]

Stan

Don't let anyone make you feel any worse then you already do. No matter what negative things are said, it is you that has to look at YOU in the mirror. Screw the ones insulting and giving you a kick while your already down. I always thought you were a great <sometimes odd> kind of a guy. Get over this thing and get on with your life, your way too smart to let this beat you!

[Edaarin]

I'd hate to see this place turn into the-spot.

Granted, unless Scott or someone else goes off to start another forum (which probably won't happen), the PC will always have a loyal following.

As far as the opinions in this thread, I'm going to have to echo most of RangerD1's. I'm not going to go and give a hollow "Good luck in life!!11," since that really doesn't mean anything from someone that you only know as a block of text. How far you get with this program depends entirely on you.

Just remember there's no such thing as "self help," this kind of shit is what family is there for.

[Tsa`ah]

I've been staying out of this thread for several reasons, but I'm going to have to echo Ed's echo here and anyone else posting similar thoughts.

You fucked up, but nothing is beyond repair. Also, while I'm sure you're sick of hearing it ... this is a good thing. Eventually that will sink in if you have the fortitude to be stronger than your addiction.

It's a tough lesson to learn and I just hope you learn from it. There's far to much potential in you as a person for you not to.

[Kuyuk]

You are all fucking idiots.

Don't use/abuse drugs. It'll keep you out of rehab.



K.

[Warriorbird]

Observo, Master of the Obvious!

[Keller]

Originally posted by Dave

Originally posted by Ilvane
:asshole:

The American way, isn't it Dave??

I'm glad someone like you is serving the country and having idiot thoughts like yours.

I suppose you're perfect, too.

-A

Perfect, no I am far from it. I have many flaws, but I face them and do my best to correct them. I don't do drugs, because I understand the repercussions and I don't want to be somebody like Stan. I also have better things to do with my time, and my life. Most importantly, people depend on me and that alone is reason enough for me not to become a fuck up.

[Edited on 3-9-2005 by Dave]

You are quite possibly the most complete waste of space I have ever witnessed.

Originally posted by The Cat In The Hat

Originally posted by RangerD1
Well, she obviously had the strength to be better than the drugs. Sounds like she did alright for herself.

Perhaps Stanley does too.

And until he does so hes a fucking loser.

There's an inherent difference between someone who takes medicine for something like chronic pain, or say surgey and becomes addicted to it and a 20 something doing it because well..it makes him feel better.

However, regardless of *why* you chose to take drugs in the first place wether it be legitimite or not so much it is still your responsibility to take control of your life. If you *choose* to use an excuse to justify your fuck up in life than thats your problem.

It's all about accountability, either you take control of your life or you don't. That doesn't mean that shit won't be fucked up or that life won't throw one of its near dependable curses. It means that regardless of what does happen that you step up to the plate and take care of it.

If (you) don't want to take the responsibility of your own life than (I) don't know what to fucking tell you.

[gsplayer]

Pffft, pussy. 12mg a day is nothing. Wait until you're blowing through a bottle of xanax in 36 hours, then it's a drug problem.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by TheRoseLady
For those who are giving heat to the Mods. There's a time and a place for everything. Sometimes you have to let your common sense of decency take over and guide you. This is one of those times when you should be more judicious of what you have to say, and especially if this is the appropriate time to be trying to make a case. Somethings are best left alone, choose your battles wisely.


I believe that the TOS should dictate what posts are allowed and what posts are not allowed. I do not believe it should be at the whim or opinion of the moderators to selectively delete posts because it is something they wouldn't post or something that they disagreed with. That is why there is a TOS on this site.

I don't agree with the Stanley bashing... but this is a public forum and he did open the discussion up.

So, since Wednesday, after 6 weeks of continuous improvement, I am no longer being mandated to attend the intensive outpatient unit.

I have still been attending the program and plan to continue doing so, until I am at full satisfaction that any and all of the skills & rehabilitation offered to me by it have reached their maximum saturation within the confines of my grey matter.

I would like to extend my gratitude to many posters on this forum who took the time to reply thoughtfully, truthfully and kindly in this thread. You have sacrificed your own time in this gesture of benevolence; to make matters short, you know who you are, thank you :)

-Stanley Burrell

[hectomaner]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
So, since Wednesday, after 6 weeks of continuous improvement, I am no longer being mandated to attend the intensive outpatient unit.

I have still been attending the program and plan to continue doing so, until I am at full satisfaction that any and all of the skills & rehabilitation offered to me by it have reached their maximum saturation within the confines of my grey matter.

I would like to extend my gratitude to many posters on this forum who took the time to reply thoughtfully, truthfully and kindly in this thread. You have sacrificed your own time in this gesture of benevolence; to make matters short, you know who you are, thank you :)

-Stanley Burrell

good deal man, glad to hear you are doing well

[Jennaen]

"If I have the belief that I can do it, I shall surely acquire the capacity to do it even if I may not have it at the beginning."
-Mahatma Gandhi

"No one can cheat you out of ultimate success but yourself."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Your past is not your potential."
-Unknown

"The main cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what we want most for what we want at the moment."
-Unknown



Stanley-

We aren't defined by our mistakes, but by what we learn from and do with them. Be strong, be patient, be persistent. Above all, believe in yourself, and your infinite cababilities as a human being to overcome any obstacle you choose to, even when the obstacle is yourself.

[Skeeter]

Good work, keep at it, and try not to fuck it up.

[Edited on 3-21-2005 by Skeeter]

[Warriorbird]

Good luck. We all have our own harrowing roads.

To refresh our memories.

Nice.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Skeeter
Good work, keep at it, and try not to fuck it up.

[Edited on 3-21-2005 by Skeeter]

Looks like he didn't try hard enough.

:lol2:

Get a hobby, old man!

[Skeeter]

Well Stan, as FMJ guy says

Looks like the best part of you ran down the crack of your momma's ass.

[Jennaen]

Hm, I think this quote bears repeating, again.


"The main cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what we want most for what we want at the moment."
-Unknown



I'm sad for you, Stanley.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell

I would like to extend my gratitude to many posters on this forum who took the time to reply thoughtfully, truthfully and kindly in this thread. You have sacrificed your own time in this gesture of benevolence; to make matters short, you know who you are, thank you :)

-Stanley Burrell

Ah hahahahahaha

Fuck you Tayvin

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
I thank each and every one one of you for your sympathy and support.

Thank you,

- Stanley.

You sure are showing that thanks! You go Stainley!

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
It has been mandated to me that as Harmnone noted, after an interview process at the ER, it was determined that I had no chance of a self-admittance and that I would in no way be elligable for 3-day release papers, which I was in quite the hurry to sign my first night on the dual-diagnosis unit. The day-program that is in direct association with the main unit has made it quite clear that I *must* go through with this program or there will be legal repercussions.

That being said, I do not intend to incur any of the repercussions that would be a result of me not attending said program. As far as the questioning of how this will play into my future, that was a selfish thing to say and I am hopeful that it is these selfish and defeatist mentallities, amongst many other things, will be treated properly through this program and further psychological treatment.

On the spectrum of addiction, it is quite obvious that this type of intervening is needed. Every day, sessions are held in which each individual within a group is asked to judge their cravings for substances on a scale of 1-10, in which progress reports, as well as feedback from Rns and clients can be made. I have answered questions old and new with absolute honesty throughout this process as I do wish to be provided with the best results through treatment and be able to come out of this a better person with zero chances of ever having a relapse.

As far parents go, this entire process has made me realize how lucky I am to have a mother and a father who are willing to make tremendous sacrifices for their son to get him serious help. I know that the magnitude of caring and support, witnessing the patience, and respecting the determination of these compassionate people, that I can always use this as a motivation factor to never, ever slip into this kind of destructive, downward spiral again. It is in somewhat of a sick way, that this incident has brought us together now more so than ever. Lastly, I am thankful that my insurance company is covering most aspects of this treatment.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I was surfing and saw this, I thought Stainley would love it!

Bill/Tayvin, please, please shut the fuck up. Don't spam my shit three times in a row.

Instead of making yourself feel better through blog-related text, why not feel physically better by pulling your pants down, reaching down with a finger and start playing around with your ass-hole.

Seriously man, I mean, fuck you. I hope someone in your family did just, or soon will die. Man, fuck you.

Also, because it's kind of funny:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/images/upload/Tayvin%20and%20girl./1190.jpg

Just shut the fuck up. If you know what's good for you, you will. Thanks.

Edited to add: You need some HPV on that little thing between your legs you call a penis, man.

[Edited on 6-6-2005 by Stanley Burrell]

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

ROFL :) Love the photoshop! Isn't my porn doggie cute?

My feelings are hurt that you hope someone in my family dies. I mean, at least you could say "If I was down on my luck in the street and looking for my next rock, I'd rob and kill them for their pocket change, and then lie to my parents and everyone that psuedo likes me on a blog-related webpage, about how I'm coming clean!"

That'd be more realistic, coming from you.

Originally posted by Terminator X

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Bill/Tayvin, please, please shut the fuck up. Don't spam my shit three times in a row.

Instead of making yourself feel better through blog-related text, why not feel physically better by pulling your pants down, reaching down with a finger and start playing around with your ass-hole.

Seriously man, I mean, fuck you. I hope someone in your family did just, or soon will die. Man, fuck you.

Also, because it's kind of funny:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/images/upload/Tayvin%20and%20girl./1190.jpg

Just shut the fuck up. If you know what's good for you, you will. Thanks.

Edited to add: You need some HPV on that little thing between your legs you call a penis, man.

[Edited on 6-6-2005 by Stanley Burrell]

HaHAHAHa . who the fuck that fat fish-belly with janet reno yo???
what are all those flying monkey flying around? :lol::lol2::lolwave:
hahe, fuckin owned

LOL. I'm liking this guy more and more by the second.

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[Snapp]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Bill/Tayvin, please, please shut the fuck up. blah blah blah personal threats, lame insults, blah blah blah

Hey, you asked for it asshole. Next time, go somewhere else for sympathy.

Ps: Thanks for the chuckle, "Tayvin." :lol:

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by Snapp]

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by Tijay posted on 3-6-2005 at 10:31 PM

Originally posted by HarmNone
It's up to Stanley, that's for sure. Sometimes, it's a bitter pill when we learn what it means to be responsible for our choices.

Stanley and I did some talking about this some time ago. Hopefully, he's learned a few things, and will learn a few more. I'll be pulling for him.

Don't get me wrong I really do hope he gets better, but reading this thread or threads in the past where hes rebuked what doctors have told him about his addictions I don't think I've ever seen him say he wants to get better. Which is why I ask ... why go through with the program.

OMG! Tijay is like Nostradamus!

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
ROFL :) Love the photoshop! Isn't my porn doggie cute?

My feelings are hurt that you hope someone in my family dies. I mean, at least you could say "If I was down on my luck in the street and looking for my next rock, I'd rob and kill them for their pocket change, and then lie to my parents and everyone that psuedo likes me on a blog-related webpage, about how I'm coming clean!"

That'd be more realistic, coming from you.

Bill, Suppa Hobbit Mage, Player of Tayvin: A while back you endulged in a thread about how you drove twelve minutes in the rain to your dead dad's house. It was something, at the time, that I gained a great deal of respect for you when you posted about it. Now, that I just happened to remember your self-infatuated post, I only feel happy that some cum-stain named "Bill," who hides behind a computer and calls me 'Stainley' (A bastardization off 80s Rapper MC Hammer's real name -Stanley Burrell-) actually *had* some Real-Fucking-Life fucked up shit happen to them. Bill, I mean, come on, fuck you.

There are human beings, like yourself, hiding behind computer screens, who actually express some degree of emotion when something fucked up happens to you in Real Life. That is not something that a normal person usually feels happy about when they realize.

I mean, all you have ever done on these boards is spew diarrhea in the form of text. Why dude? Do you deliberately act like a piece of garbage to boost your self-esteem? Maybe you post some pictures I've been unfortunate enough to view in order to boost your self-esteem...

Listen, the first thing that any objective observer will notice is how you've gained chins, pounds, age and ugliness. Those pretty green eyes aren't going to save you when reality hits you even harder on the head. But let's keep the personal agendas out of things. Yes, let's do.

Nothing you have ever done on the Gemstone IV Players' Corner has, does, or ever will amount to shit unless you decide to substitute the amount of ass-hole you have for grey matter.

I've always brought more realness to a simple blog and I'll always be more liked. Your one-liners.. Garbage. Your "pwns," garbage. Tayvin on being elaborate and well thought out, garbage: Bill, you're just a fat, old, multiple-chinned, ugly, self-righteous waste of space. Please, just for a while, do everyone on these boards a huge favor and just go away. Heh.

Leave.

.
.
.

Also, just an extra fuck you for making me waste my precious time on a cum-guzzling gutter blog-slut such as yourself.

Thanks if you're still listening.

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by Stanley Burrell]

*The bolded comment is by me. Let's do, indeed, leave the personal comments out of this. If the person being insulted did NOT originally bring the matter to these boards, you won't do so, either.*

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

Originally posted by Snapp

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Bill/Gayvin, please, please shut the fuck up. blah blah blah personal threats, lame insults, blah blah blah

Hey, you asked for it asshole. Next time, go somewhere else for sympathy.

Ps: Thanks for the chuckle, "Tayvin." :lol:

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by Snapp]

Just to clarify, telling Tayvin "blah blah blah personal threats, lame insults, blah blah blah," is *probably* not homologous to drawing sympathy from him.

Thanks for the chuckle, "Snapp." :lolwave:

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
ROFL :) Love the photoshop! Isn't my porn doggie cute?

My feelings are hurt that you hope someone in my family dies. I mean, at least you could say "If I was down on my luck in the street and looking for my next rock, I'd rob and kill them for their pocket change, and then lie to my parents and everyone that psuedo likes me on a blog-related webpage, about how I'm coming clean!"

That'd be more realistic, coming from you.

Bill, Suppa Hobbit Mage, Player of Tayvin: A while back you endulged in a thread about how you drove twelve minutes in the rain to your dead dad's house. It was something, at the time, that I gained a great deal of respect for you when you posted about it. Now, that I just happened to remember your self-infatuated post, I only feel happy that someone who hides behind a computer and calls me Stainley (A bastardization off 80s Rapper MC Hammer's real name [Stanley Burrell]) Actually had some Real-Fucking-Life fucked up shit happen to them. Bill, I mean, come on, fuck you.

There are human beings, like yourself, hiding behind computer screens, who actually express some degree of emotion when something fucked up happens to you in Real Life. That is not something that a normal person usually feels happy about when they realize.

I mean, all you have ever done on these boards is spew diarrhea in the form of text. Why dude? Do you deliberately act like a piece of garbage to boost your self-esteem? Maybe you post some pictures I've been unfortunate enough to view in order to boost your self-esteem...

Listen, the first thing that any objective observer will notice is how you've gained chins, pounds, age and ugliness. Those pretty green eyes aren't going to save you when reality hits you even harder on the head like the last good woman who was smart enough to run out of the house that you essentially kidnapped her in. But let's keep the personal agendas out of things.

Nothing you have ever done on the Gemstone IV Players' Corner has, does, or ever will amount to shit unless you decide to substitute the amount of ass-hole you have for grey matter.

I've always brought more realness to a simple blog and I'll always be more liked. Your one-liners.. Garbage. Your "pwns," garbage. Tayvin on being elaborate and well thought out, garbage: Bill, you're just a fat, old, multiple-chinned, ugly, self-righteous waste of space. Please, just for a while, do everyone on these boards a huge favor and just go away. Heh.

Leave.

.
.
.

Also, just an extra fuck you for making me waste my precious time on a cum-guzzling gutter blog-slut such as yourself.

Thanks if you're still listening.

Is this what you meant by the "if I know what's good for me" post earlier, Stainley?

I'm still chuckling at the photoshop.


How's the parents, they proud of their son today? Or do they just stare into your vacuous pupils and wonder if you even register their being there?

Stainley... you there Stainley? Bra? Mang? Did I get the street lingo right?

I must not know what's good for me :) Please proceed, I like the return to the Stainley of old. Remember? Your first thousand or so posts?

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

I'm here, Tayvin.

I also copied and pasted this, just for you:

Also, just an extra fuck you for making me waste my precious time on a cum-guzzling gutter blog-slut such as yourself.

I made the letters kind of big.

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

When will I find out what's not good for me?

Breathing air doesn't get rid of jowels, age, chins, fat, lard, ugly, jowels, but I hear it's healthy. Give it a shot man, nothing can go wrong.

Annnnd...

I'm going to bump this picture because it makes me feel tingly:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/images/upload/Tayvin%20and%20girl./1190.jpg

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Do you hate Janet because she's leading the war on drugs? I think one of her initiatives was to put deadbeat repeat addicts away for life. I bet that's it.

[HarmNone]

Okay. The sexual orientation slurs will come to an end. I haven't awarded points for any of them in this thread. I've just edited them out. However, that can change at a moment's notice.

Stop. Now.

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Do you hate Janet because she's leading the war on drugs? I think one of her initiatives was to put deadbeat repeat addicts away for life. I bet that's it.

Janet is waaay to good for you Happyvin. You outta yo league, sucka'

http://forum.gsplayers.com/images/upload/Tayvin%20and%20girl./1190.jpg

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I wasn't offended by him calling me Gayvin, HN. I just thought it was funny how it spoke to his homophobia. Sorry if someone else reported it :(

[xtc]

This Stanley thing is going from bad to worse.

[HarmNone]

It's not a matter of who's offended, SHM. It's a matter of TOS being broken.

Additionally, I have removed a very personal comment concerning a purported event in someone's life from one of the above posts. That isn't acceptable and won't be allowed to stand, either.

If you want to fight, fight clean and keep it within TOS. Otherwise, take it elsewhere.

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

At least she edited your posts and you weren't even being as awesome as me: PWNd.

Eh, let them bicker back and forth, both are taking cheap shots. (minus the out of tos stuffs)

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Um, I think she only edited my posts that quoted you breaking TOS. It's ok Stainley, I recognize you can't remember your posts. Lucky for you, they are here for everyone to see!

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Um, I think she only edited my posts that quoted you breaking TOS. It's ok Stainley, I recognize you can't remember your posts. Lucky for you, they are here for everyone to see!


Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I wasn't offended by him calling me Gayvin, HN. I just thought it was funny how it spoke to his homophobia. Sorry if someone else reported it :(

Grin... Even an allegedly-high person can see your hypocrisy. I won't say much more... :whistle:

And just cause I'm bored, I'll move in for the kill:


Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Um, I think she only edited my posts that quoted you breaking TOS. It's ok Stainley, I recognize you can't remember your posts. Lucky for you, they are here for everyone to see!

Is this what you meant by the "if I know what's good for me" post earlier, Stainley?

I'm still chuckling at the photoshop.


How's the parents, they proud of their son today? Or do they just stare into your vacuous pupils and wonder if you even register their being there?

Stainley... you there Stainley? Bra? Mang? Did I get the street lingo right?

I must not know what's good for me Please proceed, I like the return to the Stainley of old. Remember? Your first thousand or so posts?

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]
[/quote]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You realize, in your drug induced state, that she was editing the quote of of yours above my post, right?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Um, I think she only edited my posts that quoted you breaking TOS. It's ok Stainley, I recognize you can't remember your posts. Lucky for you, they are here for everyone to see!


Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I wasn't offended by him calling me Gayvin, HN. I just thought it was funny how it spoke to his homophobia. Sorry if someone else reported it :(

Grin... Even an allegedly-high person can see your hypocrisy. I won't say much more... :whistle:

Please do, what hypocrisy?

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
You realize, in your drug induced state, that she was editing the quote of of yours above my post, right?

I actually didn't realize, in my drug induced state, that she was editing the quote of of yours above my post, right?

I didn't realize it because of of the fact that you are the epitome of PC-women stalking internet shitheads.

But I could be wrong :smilegrin:

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Um, I think she only edited my posts that quoted you breaking TOS. It's ok Stainley, I recognize you can't remember your posts. Lucky for you, they are here for everyone to see!


Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I wasn't offended by him calling me Gayvin, HN. I just thought it was funny how it spoke to his homophobia. Sorry if someone else reported it :(

Grin... Even an allegedly-high person can see your hypocrisy. I won't say much more... :whistle:

Please do, what hypocrisy?

When you say someone has done something bad, or not-good and evil, and then you do the exact same thing that is bad, not-good and evil, it makes you look hypocritical. Maybe you actually do need these drugs you're infatuated with others taking in order to understand these things more clearly? Hm?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Still not getting you, nope. I think it is whatever is you are taking, talking. The best you can do at this time is quote me with a typo, and make up stuff. Oh, and talk about my dead father, who I just got off the phone with. Good times, Stainley, good times.

You still haven't answered, do the parents think your recent binge drug use is the shit, mang, or what? How about all your supporters you thanked here? Can we expect a repeat "I'm back in the program" post in the near future? Inquiring minds want to know.

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Still not getting you, nope. I think it is whatever is (fragment) you are taking, talking (fragment). The best you can do at this time is quote me with a typo, (unnecessary comma) and make up stuff. Oh, (unnecessary comma) and talk about my dead father, who I just got off (of [fragment]) the phone with. Good times, Stainley, good times.

You still haven't answered, do the parents think your recent binge drug use is the shit, mang, or what? How about all your supporters you thanked here? Can we expect a repeat "I'm back in the program" post in the near future? Inquiring minds want to know.

Stupid much?

Thanks for actually trying to make sense this time, Bill/Suppa Hobbit Mage, Player of Tayvin. Hmmm, I really do not know. He (your father) should, in fact, be dead on the account that he most certainly would have made the world a better place had he vouched to use some certain much, much more viable holes. Because of your daddy, all of the PC-dwellers suffer the reciprocation. Damn you Happyvin.

Ummm... Okay, that's about it for now.

Thanks again, everybody.

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by HarmNone]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Lemme help you out Stainley...


Originally posted by Stanley Burrell

I would like to extend my gratitude to many posters on this forum who took the time to reply thoughtfully, truthfully and kindly in this thread. You have sacrificed your own time in this gesture of benevolence; to make matters short, you know who you are, thank you :)

-Stanley Burrell

I copied that from a few months ago when you went "clean".

As to everything else, well, everyone has their own story, don't they? I'm ok with my own.

Holy deleted posts!

[Parkbandit]

Classic bump... well done bot!

:rofl:

[Jahira]

So glad they brought this back up!

[Nieninque]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

Awesome Bot. This is fucking gold.
Whether it's the awesome dramafest of Stainley's addiction/rehab/addiction, or trying to guess which dramawhore who was unable to stop themselves posting without having their username deleted (like that worked :duh: ) or Arkans calling Stainley a loser for being an addict.

Top class thread.

Top class bump.

Top class bot.

[Parkbandit]

This bot should be given a chance to live and flourish.. who knows what other old classic threads it will bump back for entertainment.

DON'T KILL THIS BOT! IT IS ALIVE!

[Parkbandit]

That's more than enough negative posts.

Any others will be deleted.

:rofl:

Those were the days. No negative posts (posts the mods didn't agree with) or they will get deleted.


This thread is full of comedy gold.

[Sean of the Thread]

Rofl greatness.

God I hope no wheelchair sales site bots come our way.

[Stanley Burrell]

...

Dead sister, bad father, and chronic alcoholic.

This was a pretty decent bump though, lol.

[Nieninque]

...

Dead sister

What? That's some kind of insult? Supposed to hurt?
ROFL
When this thread got bumped, I figured you at least are not (currently) as pitiful as you have shown yourself to be in the past.

Amazing how wrong you can be sometimes.

Yes, my sister is dead.
She died in Iraq, November 12th 2006 on active service for the Army.
Her life, as short as it was, was a million times more worthwhile than the joke of an existence yours will only ever be.
That, you point out she is dead as some sorry attempt at "banter" on a message board says loads more about you than I.

[Stanley Burrell]

Without even reading whatever it is you replied with, that took roughly 15 minutes of your viewing this page to come up with.

[Stanley Burrell]

What? That's some kind of insult? Supposed to hurt?
ROFL
When this thread got bumped, I figured you at least are not (currently) as pitiful as you have shown yourself to be in the past.

Amazing how wrong you can be sometimes.

Yes, my sister is dead.
She died in Iraq, November 12th 2006 on active service for the Army.
Her life, as short as it was, was a million times more worthwhile than the joke of an existence yours will only ever be.
That, you point out she is dead as some sorry attempt at "banter" on a message board says loads more about you than I.

I will have sex with you if it makes you any less of a bitch.

[Stanley Burrell]

Edited to Add: And PB + Xyelin, if they play catcher for the most part.

P.S. Follow family tradition, Nien.

[Nieninque]

Without even reading whatever it is you replied with, that took roughly 15 minutes of your viewing this page to come up with.

Because clearly, I must have been at the computer for the entire time my browser was on the reply page.

Funny that you are so pathetically ego-centric that you sit there on the "Who's Online" page wanking off to the fact that someone might be replying to one of your fuck-ups of a post.

[Stanley Burrell]

Yeah. Die.

[Nieninque]

P.S. Follow family tradition, Nien.

Would be proud to.
Follow your own history Stainley.
Oh, and those ideations you speak of? Follow them through, too. The light is pretty...

[Nieninque]

I will have sex with you if it makes you any less of a bitch.

I'm fed up, not hard up.

[Stanley Burrell]

Do the opposite of being alive?

[Back]

You can do it, Stan. You the man, yo.

In retrospect I’d like to point out my one post in this thread... and I have to ask... wtf is up with SHM?

The Black Crowes - Evergreen (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the+black+crowes/track/evergreen)

[Stanley Burrell]

In retrospect I’d like to point out my one post in this thread... and I have to ask... wtf is up with SHM?

I don't know. But I do know he's the bigger man for not letting petty internet shit throw him into the pen with the rest of us e-zoo animals. I was basically expecting him to start jerking off with the Marine, the ginger and hotel management, but only I could be drug-addled enough to venture into the realm of bringing personal insults involving the lives of others onto an online message board.

Also, Backlash, can you re-visit your hard on for Nieninque and make her a well-rounded human being? She's really weird.

[Asha]

A bot revived this? Wow.
LOL at Peam aswell.

[Back]

I don't know. But I do know he's the bigger man for not letting petty internet shit throw him into the pen with the rest of us e-zoo animals. I was basically expecting him to start jerking off with the Marine, the ginger and hotel management, but only I could be drug-addled enough to venture into the realm of bringing personal insults involving the lives of others onto an online message board.

Also, Backlash, can you re-visit your hard on for Nieninque and make her a well-rounded human being? She's really weird.

I only asked because he seemed really harsh for no particular reason. Yeah, you got nasty, but why the fuck does he care to throttle you when you are down, or about to get back up?

As for Nien... I suspect shes doing fine on her own.

The Black Crowes - Locust Street (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the+black+crowes/track/locust+street)

[sst]

There are some lines not worth crossing Stanley, and that shit you just pulled with Nien was one of them. You owe her an apology in the least.

[Stanley Burrell]

There are some lines not worth crossing Stanley, and that shit you just pulled with Nien was one of them. You owe her an apology in the least.

I am so sorry about talking about people's personal lives on vBulletin. Man, what a line to cross.

[sst]

your own stupidity vs. losing a loved one in a war

Come on Stanley even you're not that messed up, are you?

[Stanley Burrell]

I mean, I must be, what with all those illicit hardcore drugs everyone claims I'm on. Undeniable fact. Especially coming from Nieninque and ParkBandit. Where's the sympathy card my way, Dave?

[sst]

Are you truly that offended by them saying you still do drugs? Hopefully you keep it in mind and don't revert back to that shit again. It's not something I will give you sympathy for.

You doing something that was for nobody but yourself VS. somebody doing something for the greater good, and ultimately gave their life

Sorry, its far different.

EDIT: i was not referring to you doing drugs in the post before this BTW

[Stanley Burrell]

Are you truly that offended by them saying you still do drugs?

I think if I was ever offended by anything either of those retards said, I'd promptly pull a Nieninque's sister and get my own arms blown the fuck off.


Sorry, its far different.

Sure: You can continue to say that, and I can still not believe it.

Look at this pixelated text, man. In fact, OH NOEZ, here comes a realer-than-life image-link.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2540/internetseriousvq1.jpg

HEAD FOR THE HILLS.

[sst]

oh well my opinion of you just dropped a bit more.

[Stanley Burrell]

oh well my opinion of you just dropped a bit more.

Lay off, son.

http://myskitch.com/kalisurfer/youtube_-_leave_britney_alone_-20070918-114214.jpg

^ Which is what this thread amounts to, now.

[Stanley Burrell]

Oh, no...please don't be harsh with me...what would I do?

I thought you were being sarcastic.

[Nieninque]

You're pitiful.

And that's not sarcasm.

[Stanley Burrell]

You're pitiful.

And that's not sarcasm.

Great.

Make some more threads about me.

[Nieninque]

I don't think I have ever made a thread about you.
I leave that kind of stuff to you. Carry on...

[Stanley Burrell]

I'm just talking drug-induced dribbled.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=32360

Take some anti-depressants, you're so vehemently against, and stop being a fucking cunt. Or at least be one of those cool cunts, like, who knows that they're a cunt; but not an uncool cunt, who's just a cunt but doesn't think she is.

Look, let's just have sex.

[Nieninque]

I'm just talking drug-induced dribbled.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=32360

Poor little smack-head, thinks that I was talking about him.
I know the title has your name in it, but the thread was never about you. Of course, any opportunity to laugh at you is taken up obligingly, but that doesnt mean you are the subject of the thread.

Poor fuck.

[Asha]

/Diethread.

[Stanley Burrell]

Poor little smack-head, thinks that I was talking about him.
I know the title has your name in it, but the thread was never about you. Of course, any opportunity to laugh at you is taken up obligingly, but that doesnt mean you are the subject of the thread.

Poor fuck.

Can we just fucking sleep with each other for fuck's sake?

Jesus Christ, you play hard to get.

[Nieninque]

ROFL...bots are drawn to bumping this thread.

[Stanley Burrell]

I just find it strange that someone would actually unlock it and have a person who has one post reiterate this point the same day.

[Stanley Burrell]

Check your hotmail, Kranar.

Edit: Check your hotmail. But I'm not 100% certain.