View Full Version : Mounts: Fast Travel
Taernath
06-14-2019, 07:05 PM
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Mounts: Fast Travel on 06/14/2019 03:57 PM MST
Mounts will have 2 separate unlocks for Fast Travel. Each unlock is tied to the character ("riding skill"), so if you have more than one mount, it works for all of them.
The first Fast Travel unlock is Town to Hunting Grounds. You will be able to use your mount from within town to instantly go to any number of hunting grounds for your local area. As an example (and this is purely an example, any or all the locations listed below are not guaranteed to be available in the end product), you will get a list of locations and be able to pick one of these while in the Landing:
Cavernhold, Main Hall (gnoll workers, gnoll thiefs, gnoll rangers, gnoll guards, gnoll priests)
Spider Temple, Entry Hall
Upper Trollfang (lesser orcs, cockatrices, forest trolls)
Graveyard, Crypt
Mine Road (manticores, lesser orcs, goblins, kobolds, thraks)
Mine (cave trolls, troglodytes, cave gnomes, cave nippers, greater spiders, cave worms, crystal golems)
Upper Trollfang, Glatoph (ice trolls, steel golems, snow crones, ice skeletons, fire guardians, ice trolls
firephantoms, frost giants)
Lysierian Hills, Valley (pumas, krolvin warriors, krolvin mercenaries, krolvin warfarers)
Monastery, Misty Chamber (monastic liches, spectral monks)
Kobold Village, Commons (kobolds, big ugly kobolds)
Darkstone, Outer Chamber (troll kings, harbingers)
Sea Caverns (goblins)
Wehntoph, Labyrinth (minotaurs)
Wehnimer's Sewer, Nexus (giant rats)
Castle Anwyn Gatehouse (carcerises, hornets, arch wights, moaning spirits)
Stronghold, Entry (stone giants, Illoke mystics, stone mastiffs, Illoke shamans, stone giants)
In most cases, the mount will not allow you to circumvent normal obstacles (skill and level checks), but can get you closer to the desired area than as if you had to walk all the way. A common exception to that rule is if you can teleport there with a gold ring, a mount will probably be able to take you there too. After your hunt, you can return to the same room, then Fast Travel back to town. You may use this type of Fast Travel with no cooldown.
The second type of Fast Travel will be Town to Town. Your mount will take you on a relatively short journey as you move from one town's stables to another. It will be similar to the caravan system that is used to travel from Solhaven to the Sanctum of Scales (but with no bandits). It will be quicker than walking and will only take a few minutes to go to most towns. This type of travel is taxing on your mount and may only be performed once per day.
Both unlocks will be available to purchase for 50,000 raikhen at each town's local stables once released in the near future.
GameMaster Estild
boy oh boy only 100k raikhen!
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audioserf
06-14-2019, 07:11 PM
And limited to once a day for town to town
Fucking lmao
I'll use go2
wetsand
06-14-2019, 07:44 PM
After your hunt, you can return to the same room, then Fast Travel back to town.
Why force you to return to the starting room? Is it really game breaking to say travel from any room in the hunting area?
All these updates and time spent "coding" and they still won't address disarm mechanics.
Fortybox
06-14-2019, 07:54 PM
Why is Estild so retarded?
So 100K to unlock is $800 (cheaper if books bought in bulk and Premium). All that money for something that ;go2 already solves for and is better.
Landing to Solhaven = [go2: travel time: 0:00:12]
Astray
06-14-2019, 07:59 PM
Pffft.
Yeah, this confirms Mounts are specifically for whales. Who else would even bother?
rolfard
06-14-2019, 08:05 PM
My 5k gold ring needs an upgrade, I'm thinking make it 100 simucoins
Gelston
06-14-2019, 08:24 PM
So it can walk to Teras or RR on the second unlock?
Taernath
06-14-2019, 08:50 PM
So it can walk to Teras or RR on the second unlock?
Estild: *to himself* (Oh shit, he's right.) We're proud to introduce a third tier unlock for only 50k raiken!
https://i.imgur.com/qM48yq4.jpg
Gelston
06-14-2019, 08:56 PM
lolz
Murrandii
06-14-2019, 09:00 PM
When we speculated the worst updates they'd do, we said about quick travel… but nobody expected 1 time a day cause it was too dumb.
Well they did it LOL
Tgo01
06-14-2019, 09:25 PM
Once per day fast travel between towns?
I sometimes wonder why Simu even bothers.
Gelston
06-14-2019, 09:30 PM
Once per day fast travel between towns?
I sometimes wonder why Simu even bothers.
I think it should be unlimited for Solhaven/Landing/Icemule/Pinefar and TI/Cysaegir/TV. I can see the once a day between EN and Landing and stuff.
Fortybox
06-14-2019, 09:59 PM
You can easily make 100K in silver per day to cover the cost of a chronomage travel. Even if you didn't, at current silver prices and once a day travel, that's 36.5m silvers total or about $164.25 @ $4.50. Fast travel costs between $600-$800 depending on Premium status and how you are buying your books. So not assuming you earn silver (which people do), at the earliest, buying a mount is worth it after 1.83-4.87 years. Earning of silvers extends when buying a mount would eventually be worth it.
Net net, Simu is retarded.
Tgo01
06-14-2019, 11:21 PM
I think it should be unlimited for Solhaven/Landing/Icemule/Pinefar and TI/Cysaegir/TV. I can see the once a day between EN and Landing and stuff.
Shouldn't these things at least be able to do a round trip?
Whale: Hey, look how fast I can get to EN.
Non-whale: How fast?
30 seconds later.
Whale over lnet: See me take off on my epic horse? I just arrived in EN!
Non-whale over lnet: That's awesome! So want to do some bounties?
Whale over lnet: ...maybe tomorrow.
Velfi
06-15-2019, 01:59 AM
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Donquix
06-15-2019, 10:30 AM
At the cheapest you can buy simucoins, and assuming the average of 125 Yen per activity, That's ~285 dollars per unlock. In addition to the what, was it, 70+ for a horse? I forget what the cheapest was. And character bound instead of even account wide so you can't even pass that between characters.
Yeah i'm good. Thanks for wasting all of our time though.
Merzbow
06-15-2019, 02:26 PM
Multi setting ring is a much more flexible option.
Astray
06-15-2019, 03:15 PM
Watch them try to actively shut down ;go2 somehow.
"Oh, your free script that shits all over our crappy implementation for the whales and it hurt sales. There will now be a hard RT of 500 seconds if you move more than 5 rooms in succession without a mount." -Simu, probably.
Fortybox
06-15-2019, 03:18 PM
Multi setting ring is a much more flexible option.
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Methais
06-15-2019, 03:29 PM
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Taernath
06-15-2019, 03:31 PM
Watch them try to actively shut down ;go2 somehow.
"Oh, your free script that shits all over our crappy implementation for the whales and it hurt sales. There will now be a hard RT of 500 seconds if you move more than 5 rooms in succession without a mount." -Simu, probably.
"We have added long-term movement scripts to our long-term scripting policy. If you movement script more than 10 rooms you will be in violation."
Donquix
06-15-2019, 03:39 PM
Wait until we find out mounts can't traverse Zul at all and its just intra TP zone.
Fortybox
06-15-2019, 04:06 PM
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Methais
06-15-2019, 04:08 PM
Wait until we find out mounts can't traverse Zul at all and its just intra TP zone.
Wait until mounts have to be fed in order to keep functioning and the only way to get horse food is in the Simucoin store.
nocturnix
06-15-2019, 04:40 PM
Sure glad i didnt buy any horse.
Must say i normally defend Simu on alot of stuff but this is pretty bad. They started an event focused around these horses but didnt have them finished. The event is quite expensive/and the horses. Now they start to finally release info on the horses and its more than underwhelming. I'll stick to my chronomage capsules, thanks!
Donquix
06-15-2019, 05:30 PM
Imagine WoW classic being released and being charged 200 dollars per player to use flightpaths.
Yeahhhhhh.
Tgo01
06-15-2019, 06:07 PM
fast travel 3
You have selected to fast travel to the Elven Nations. Is this correct?
yes
And how will you be paying today; credit card or up the ass with no lube?
nocturnix
06-15-2019, 06:27 PM
Mobile storage would be something interesting.
Tgo01
06-15-2019, 06:28 PM
Mobile storage would be something interesting.
Taking bets!
If Simu someday adds mobile storage to mounts will it:
A) Be a free upgrade
B) Be an unlockable upgrade that costs real life money, either directly or indirectly?
Wrathbringer
06-15-2019, 06:33 PM
Taking bets!
If Simu someday adds mobile storage to mounts will it:
A) Be a free upgrade
B) Be an unlockable upgrade that costs real life money, either directly or indirectly?
I'm going with B, indirectly via a massive suck ass grind that takes days and $100+ in simucoins to achieve.
Tgo01
06-15-2019, 06:42 PM
tfw...you realize an in game mount costs more real money than a real mount...
Gelston
06-15-2019, 11:07 PM
tfw...you realize an in game mount costs more real money than a real mount...
RL horses can't take you across the US once a day though.
Donquix
06-16-2019, 02:23 AM
Be honest though.. how many of you fucktards got a horse! fess up!
Literally 0 dollars on this event. I was bullish on this bullshit microtransaction slippery slope to begin with, but I did break down the most recent DR (previously i bought a couple things with silver, which is supporting simucoins via proxy i know)
If a "fast travel" mount or WR containers would have been reasonably priced, I would have probably bit. But ~150 dollars for the "cheap" tier of WR on an epic deep, and ~300 for once a day caravan like travel that unless I'm reading it wrong is character bound...are you out of your fucking mind? Fuck you people with barbrie dream horses reinforcing this behavior. This is ridiculous pricing. If there was consistent dev happening outside of these events, i'd get it. You could roll that value prop all together, but the only fucking thing of note released in the last year consisted of like, 1 new spell for clerics and really minor tweaks to existing things. That's it. The end. Nothing else outside of more microtransctions funding dev work for microtransactions.
Gelston
06-16-2019, 03:11 AM
Literally 0 dollars on this event. I was bullish on this bullshit microtransaction slippery slope to begin with, but I did break down the most recent DR (previously i bought a couple things with silver, which is supporting simucoins via proxy i know)
If a "fast travel" mount or WR containers would have been reasonably priced, I would have probably bit. But ~150 dollars for the "cheap" tier of WR on an epic deep, and ~300 for once a day caravan like travel that unless I'm reading it wrong is character bound...are you out of your fucking mind? Fuck you people with barbrie dream horses reinforcing this behavior. This is ridiculous pricing. If there was consistent dev happening outside of these events, i'd get it. You could roll that value prop all together, but the only fucking thing of note released in the last year consisted of like, 1 new spell for clerics and really minor tweaks to existing things. That's it. The end. Nothing else outside of more microtransctions funding dev work for microtransactions.
Shit like this festival is really what is keeping me from staying around. I'd imagine it isn't just me that feels this way. I don't mind pay festivals, but these ridiculous and blatant cash grabs are just fucking stupid.
nocturnix
06-16-2019, 06:37 AM
You have to be really careful these days investing in new items they release. They often release buggy stuff and never fix it. ie. Treasure Sacks, I probably spent 30-40m on mine, which is not a ton, but still alot for me. Items with the same exact name dont stack, basically very few things actually stack inside these sacks, making them kind of pointless. Especially now that they are offering weight reduction as a service now at Rumor Woods. The treasure sack is pretty much a piece of junk now. Not really any point to them at all, so from now on I will wait until after-market or until second round of an event to invest in something. It's just too risky with all of the shitty items they never fix out there now.
audioserf
06-16-2019, 06:59 AM
Literally 0 dollars on this event. I was bullish on this bullshit microtransaction slippery slope to begin with, but I did break down the most recent DR (previously i bought a couple things with silver, which is supporting simucoins via proxy i know)
If a "fast travel" mount or WR containers would have been reasonably priced, I would have probably bit. But ~150 dollars for the "cheap" tier of WR on an epic deep, and ~300 for once a day caravan like travel that unless I'm reading it wrong is character bound...are you out of your fucking mind? Fuck you people with barbrie dream horses reinforcing this behavior. This is ridiculous pricing. If there was consistent dev happening outside of these events, i'd get it. You could roll that value prop all together, but the only fucking thing of note released in the last year consisted of like, 1 new spell for clerics and really minor tweaks to existing things. That's it. The end. Nothing else outside of more microtransctions funding dev work for microtransactions.
Pretty much same. The pricing at this event was so insane that it wasn't enough to entice me to bite the bullet on an 11th currency. I'll wait for DR.
Taernath
06-16-2019, 11:03 AM
Shit like this festival is really what is keeping me from staying around. I'd imagine it isn't just me that feels this way. I don't mind pay festivals, but these ridiculous and blatant cash grabs are just fucking stupid.
Yeah, same. I don't feel comfortable giving Simu any money since none of it leads to more game dev, just continually increasing paid events. There are people on discord saying that this stuff is what keeps the doors open. What's your subscription for, then?
Donquix
06-16-2019, 11:22 AM
Yeah, same. I don't feel comfortable giving Simu any money since none of it leads to more game dev, just continually increasing paid events. There are people on discord saying that this stuff is what keeps the doors open. What's your subscription for, then?
paying for the enchant change that was so poorly done it had to be nearly entirely scrapped and rewritten and we're over a month in for it and still don't even have some of the basic functionality promised like the potion vendor! TADAAAAAA
Astray
06-16-2019, 11:31 AM
There are people on discord saying that this stuff is what keeps the doors open. What's your subscription for, then?
When you point out that a sub is meant to cover development cost, do you catch a ban?
Taernath
06-16-2019, 12:08 PM
When you point out that a sub is meant to cover development cost, do you catch a ban?
Mostly just "feel free to unsub then" comments.
Gelston
06-16-2019, 12:12 PM
Yeah, same. I don't feel comfortable giving Simu any money since none of it leads to more game dev, just continually increasing paid events. There are people on discord saying that this stuff is what keeps the doors open. What's your subscription for, then?
Which is fucking retarded. There are MUDs out without sub fees that manage to stay open. Fucking Aardwolf has 245 people on right now and is free from what I can tell. Some people drank too much kool-aide.
Astray
06-16-2019, 12:33 PM
Mostly just "feel free to unsub then" comments.
Poor bastards.
Mikalmas
06-16-2019, 01:14 PM
Gonna go ahead and guess the 200k raikhen stables are infinite inter-town fast travel prop. For 200k it better be a super-node as well.
stables are now 50k raikhen.
Methais
06-16-2019, 04:16 PM
There are people on discord saying that this stuff is what keeps the doors open. What's your subscription for, then?
Is it Simu saying this or just retard players who suck on Simu's shart splattered asshole all day hoping a GM will give them attention?
Methais
06-16-2019, 04:25 PM
Rohese who quit recently came back and now owns 2 horses and a fucking stable (and probably a shit ton of accessories to go with). Let’s face the fact that Simuhas a cult. They have a fucking cult who are willing to give any amounts to the church of Simu.
insert GS P2W starter pack meme that I'm too lazy to actually create but contains pictures of 12 cats, xanax, box wine, SS/disability/crazy checks, pajamas that are worn all day, and text horses
Fortybox
06-16-2019, 04:26 PM
Is it Simu saying this or just retard players who suck on Simu's shart splattered asshole all day hoping a GM will give them attention?
This is why Wyrom left the PC and removed feedback to Simutronics via the crappy officials. He literally surrounds himself by a small group of players on Discord who consistently validate his world view.
Taernath
06-16-2019, 04:39 PM
Is it Simu saying this or just retard players who suck on Simu's shart splattered asshole all day hoping a GM will give them attention?
It was the same person who argued Blizzard spends half a billion on server costs, but I have seen others echo the sentiment.
Methais
06-16-2019, 04:43 PM
It was the same person who argued Blizzard spends half a billion on server costs, but I have seen others echo the sentiment.
Sounds about right. Next P2W event they'll be selling tit milk that came from males.
Astray
06-16-2019, 05:41 PM
Literal, actual horse armor is coming and it will be literally useless.
Gelston
06-16-2019, 06:29 PM
Literal, actual horse armor is coming and it will be literally useless.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, bet it'll cost way more than the Oblivion Horse Armor DLC though.
Elvenlady
06-16-2019, 06:51 PM
Rohese who quit recently came back and now owns 2 horses and a fucking stable (and probably a shit ton of accessories to go with). Let’s face the fact that Simuhas a cult. They have a fucking cult who are willing to give any amounts to the church of Simu.
If you're going to throw my name around, at least get your facts straight and stop exaggerating.
Gelston
06-16-2019, 06:54 PM
If you're going to throw my name around, at least get your facts straight and stop exaggerating.
Don't mind him. He is the resident moron.
Fortybox
06-16-2019, 07:13 PM
If you're going to throw my name around, at least get your facts straight and stop exaggerating.
It's really 4 horses and 2 stalls? :)
Astray
06-16-2019, 07:31 PM
It's really 4 horses and 2 stalls? :)
Beats 2 girls and a cup.
Ososis
06-17-2019, 03:27 AM
Don't mind him. He is the resident moron.
Who, again, is dropping names of people he doesn't know, spreading rumors that aren't true, and creepily seems to be collecting information on people without their knowledge, or at least trying. He is certainly a moron, but its his malicious intent that really sets him apart.
Don't pay attention to him sure, but you should totally mind.
Gelston
06-17-2019, 03:35 AM
Who, again, is dropping names of people he doesn't know, spreading rumors that aren't true, and creepily seems to be collecting information on people without their knowledge, or at least trying. He is certainly a moron, but its his malicious intent that really sets him apart.
Don't pay attention to him sure, but you should totally mind.
Shut up bitch
Ososis
06-17-2019, 03:53 AM
Shut up bitch
Well that seems like an appropriate response.
Murrandii
06-17-2019, 07:40 AM
lol
audioserf
06-17-2019, 08:47 AM
The repeated panic price drops at RW really paint a picture of it being an abject failure. I'm glad of it.
Methais
06-17-2019, 10:17 AM
Well that seems like an appropriate response.
Shut up gayguyver.
lol
Shut up gayguyver.
Methais
06-17-2019, 10:18 AM
The repeated panic price drops at RW really paint a picture of it being an abject failure. I'm glad of it.
I wonder how the tards who paid full price feel about it and how gaping and flaccid their anuses are this week.
Taernath
06-17-2019, 10:31 AM
The repeated panic price drops at RW really paint a picture of it being an abject failure. I'm glad of it.
I want that to be true, but Paidfestivalstone's profit margins are massive.
Methais
06-17-2019, 10:38 AM
I want that to be true, but Paidfestivalstone's profit margins are massive.
That's easy when your business model is centered around voluntary slave labor due to people being retarded.
audioserf
06-17-2019, 10:43 AM
If it's voluntary it can't be slave labor because you can just stop doing it.
Reported for posting a logical fallacy (phallusy).
Methais
06-17-2019, 10:46 AM
If it's voluntary it can't be slave labor because you can just stop doing it.
Reported for posting a logical fallacy (phallusy).
My bad, I apologize. Please replace "voluntary slave labor" with "unpaid employees who are stupid as fuck."
Gelston
06-17-2019, 10:48 AM
My bad, I apologize. Please replace "voluntary slave labor" with "unpaid employees who are stupid as fuck."
They get paid. I mean not like PAAAAAAAID, but they get money.
Taernath
06-17-2019, 10:55 AM
They get paid. I mean not like PAAAAAAAID, but they get money.
Now they get a cut of paid festival money based on participation. Go figure that's what everyone wants to work on, now.
Gelston
06-17-2019, 11:00 AM
Now they get a cut of paid festival money based on participation. Go figure that's what everyone wants to work on, now.
Honestly, I have no idea how that works. How much they get from SimuCoins or any of that. I was out of there just before SimuCoins became a thing. I'd imagine they get something though.
Gelston
06-17-2019, 11:01 AM
I do know at the start, when it was just the little things like potions or whatever, they got nothing though.
Donquix
06-17-2019, 11:21 AM
I do know at the start, when it was just the little things like potions or whatever, they got nothing though.
It's nothing for simucoins in general. It's specifically a cut from festival participation, i assume relative to how much your shops / events draw.
Gelston
06-17-2019, 11:52 AM
It's nothing for simucoins in general. It's specifically a cut from festival participation, i assume relative to how much your shops / events draw.
Yeah, that is sorta how it was with EG and festivals prior to buying passes with SimuCoins. Wasn't sure how they worked that now.Especially when you consider crap like diving and the other games take a bit of coding, I'd hope the GMs who made those get something from the purchases made specifically for that.
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