Enchant Certs

[Askip]

Per Wyrom:

Enchanting certs are retired at this point from Duskruin. The enchanting updates had nothing to do with events, and I do not want it associated at all with the idea that it's linked. We'll need to get the issue with scripted items sorted out before it ever returns at events.

[Methais]

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[Murrandii]

LOL!!!

yeah right, no link between the two..

They don't want a major boycott of people: you fudged 925 and now you sell certs to compensate and make money out of it… YEAH DAMN RIGHT

[Stumplicker]

He's just trying to buy good will before he dumps his 12th alternative currency on the playerbase. It's another marketing tactic he's employed pretty frequently. Throw a small bone, then stick a bigger one someplace uncomfortable (like the back of a Volkswagen).

The difference I've been seeing lately though is positive. People have started to get wise in larger numbers and I guarantee you the company is feeling the pinch in sales based on Mario's slight alterations in rhetoric this last six months or so.

[Amerek]

I foresee Duskruin revenue going down the pooper.

[Methais]

I foresee Duskruin revenue going down the pooper.

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[Murrandii]

He's just trying to buy good will before he dumps his 12th alternative currency on the playerbase. It's another marketing tactic he's employed pretty frequently. Throw a small bone, then stick a bigger one someplace uncomfortable (like the back of a Volkswagen).

The difference I've been seeing lately though is positive. People have started to get wise in larger numbers and I guarantee you the company is feeling the pinch in sales based on Mario's slight alterations in rhetoric this last six months or so.

I agree with you bro Flimbo.

So, instead of focusing in another way to increase revenue, he's stick up in the microcurrency model. No, he cannot go back to developement in general to increase the player bases, NO. HE CANNOT! It'd be a failure statement, right?

[Methais]

I agree with you bro Flimbo.

So, instead of focusing in another way to increase revenue, he's stick up in the microcurrency model. No, he cannot go back to developement in general to increase the player bases, NO. HE CANNOT! It'd be a failure statement, right?

Reported for not realizing the opportunity to refer to Flimbo as Flimbro.

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[Methais]

Also in before they release an enchant smithy.

[Murrandii]

Flimbro… LOL

[audioserf]

Reported for not realizing the opportunity to refer to Flimbo as Flimbro.



NICE.

[audioserf]

This actually pisses me off properly, too. The enchant certs weren't cheap and were a good use of 100k BS if you had a wild item you wanted to finish off or if you didn't feel like dealing with finding a wizard and then (prior to now) being without your item for 9 months. I was going to get a couple for my armor next run. Fucking figures. If they don't add some good shit to HESS there won't be much point left to DR unless you just really enjoy nearly risk free exp.

[Astray]

Reported for not realizing the opportunity to refer to Flimbo as Flimbro.

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I call him Flimboi.

[Stumplicker]

This actually pisses me off properly, too. The enchant certs weren't cheap and were a good use of 100k BS if you had a wild item you wanted to finish off or if you didn't feel like dealing with finding a wizard and then (prior to now) being without your item for 9 months. I was going to get a couple for my armor next run. Fucking figures. If they don't add some good shit to HESS there won't be much point left to DR unless you just really enjoy nearly risk free exp.

There's about a 99.9% chance that while "enchant certs" are going away, high tier enchanting potions for bloodscrip or other alternate currency replace them after a few months.

[Alastir]

I think it's nothing more than a game.

People accused them of making things harder for profit, so they "remove" the certs in response.

Then they'll say that people asked for the certs to come back, so they're only giving people what they ask for.

It's a joke, making things impossible to enchant is retarded. There were already limits via rare potions.

[Donquix]

They alluded to potentially removing the enchant certs after the last DR. This isn't a direct response to people bitching, though I'm sure it's not helping. At the time I think a few of us assumed the "flat rate" certs were going to be removed and something taking into account a gear score similar to WPS would be used, or the "normal" certs would cut at 7x and then a more potent version for 8-10x, etc.

[Merzbow]

Told y'all multiple times this would happen. And I'm glad to see them gone, enchanting should remain the realm of player wizards. I'm fine with making it take longer or take more resources to enchant uber items, as long as it's not made impossible (as they did with some scripted items, hopefully Wyrom follows through on his almost-promise to remedy that).

[Alastir]

Told y'all multiple times this would happen. And I'm glad to see them gone, enchanting should remain the realm of player wizards. I'm fine with making it take longer or take more resources to enchant uber items, as long as it's not made impossible (as they did with some scripted items, hopefully Wyrom follows through on his almost-promise to remedy that).

He's not making the decision.

It would take enough account cancellations for the office to say, fix this.

It's either Coase or Estild.

[Fortybox]

LOL at Simu's response to wizard tears. This is progressively getting worse and worse the more you all complain.

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[Astray]

Can't complain about a class if nobody plays it. Just look at Monks.

[Fortybox]

Can't complain about a class if nobody plays it. Just look at Monks.

Wrong. I won't play my monk because they suck. I still complain and am all salty and emo over it.

[beldannon5]

removing enchanting certificates is assinine! That is all

[Methais]

Told y'all multiple times this would happen. And I'm glad to see them gone, enchanting should remain the realm of player wizards. I'm fine with making it take longer or take more resources to enchant uber items, as long as it's not made impossible (as they did with some scripted items, hopefully Wyrom follows through on his almost-promise to remedy that).

lol like Wyrom has any control over dev

Would be nice if he did, but dev does whatever they want.

[Murrandii]

lol like Wyrom has any control over dev

Would be nice if he did, but dev does whatever they want.

why?

Who is their boss?

Problems in pyramidal hierarchy is very often in the first tier of the said pyramid.

[Methais]

removing enchanting certificates is assinine! That is all

What if they replaced them with T6 ensorcell certs?

[Methais]

LOL at Simu's response to wizard tears. This is progressively getting worse and worse the more you all complain.

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This is typically what happens when they roll out a gigantic update like that with no warning and apparently no testing other than the equivalent of "Does it power on?" and then expect the players to do all the testing and data gathering for them so they can figure out how to make it not be stupid and suck greasy ass chunklings.

[Archigeek]

Told y'all multiple times this would happen. And I'm glad to see them gone, enchanting should remain the realm of player wizards. I'm fine with making it take longer or take more resources to enchant uber items, as long as it's not made impossible (as they did with some scripted items, hopefully Wyrom follows through on his almost-promise to remedy that).

Nearly zero enchant certs were being used on items that a wizard could enchant. This change just means there will again be no way to enchant most uber items. Or did you think they were going to just hand the gravy train over to the players of one class without figuring out a way for SIMU to get a piece of the pie?

They'll be back in 2-3 Duskruins, once they figure out their plan for scaling them.

[neimanz1]

Nearly zero enchant certs were being used on items that a wizard could enchant. This change just means there will again be no way to enchant most uber items. Or did you think they were going to just hand the gravy train over to the players of one class without figuring out a way for SIMU to get a piece of the pie?

They'll be back in 2-3 Duskruins, once they figure out their plan for scaling them.

The Kerl is wise! I would be shock if some sort of enchant isn't back by the end of the year

**besides they could always just raise the price on resist certificate**

I heard the +/- is set at 40k bloodscrip

[Methais]

Nearly zero enchant certs were being used on items that a wizard could enchant. This change just means there will again be no way to enchant most uber items. Or did you think they were going to just hand the gravy train over to the players of one class without figuring out a way for SIMU to get a piece of the pie?

They'll be back in 2-3 Duskruins, once they figure out their plan for scaling them.

Didn't they say that the reason for the script change was to allow more items to be enchanted by wizards that previously couldn't be, barring items that they flat out don't want to be enchanted at all? There's a recent post by Naos saying something along those lines that I'm too lazy to find.

[Donquix]

Something like that, but effectively if they don't change the difficulty significantly those things are still effectively not enchantable.

Seems like a lot of this could be solved by setting a MAX difficulty value on things that aren't the "fuck you, no" variant of difficulty (like coraesine and all that)

like difficulty is a + b +c + x +y +z + what the fuck ever, cap at: (theorhetical max enchant ability - 97)

If you spend 5m bloodscrip on adding things to your sick mithril whip blade and wanna pay for fixskills end enhancives to bring it up to 10x, more power to you.