View Full Version : The 925 Clusterfuck
mgoddess
05-14-2019, 03:24 PM
Okay, quick poll to see what players of wizards think....
How do you think wizards should acquire essence?
1) Hunting only, where only damage from AS/CS spells counts.
2) Hunting only, where any damage the wizard does counts.
3) Active in general, whether hunting (option number 2) or not; hunting would give more essence than normal, interactive activity
4) Semi-passive, where the wizard needs to be in-game, to acquire a small amount of essense per pulse; hunting would still give more essence.
5) Passive, where all wizards gain a small amount of essense each pulse, no matter if they are in-game or not; hunting would still give more essence.
(Edit: Working on poll, never done this before. :P )
mgoddess
05-14-2019, 03:29 PM
Okay, I fail at polls... should have 6 options, instead of 4.... 5th being the 'Passive' option, 6th being 'Tacos', because you can't have a PC poll without Tacos. :P
Gelston
05-14-2019, 03:32 PM
A mixture would be cool. All spells should accrue essence, but attack spells accrue the most and there is also a much slower passive route where it just builds up over time. So I voted for all the options.
Taernath
05-14-2019, 03:40 PM
Any damage the wizard does + small amount naturally. I'm not sure they should have to be in-game or not, as parking wizards at a table afk isn't a great look, but maybe if it's just small amount with a weekly/daily cap.
Double if they train in taco lore.
Stumplicker
05-14-2019, 03:46 PM
I think it works fine as is. My wizard caps his essence in a reasonable time with normal hunting with minor steam. If you want to throw a bone to the whiners though, 250 essence at midnight when you get the 250 longterm absorb, but only if you have the longterm exp in your pool. That ensures you were at least online and getting exp at some point.
Murrandii
05-14-2019, 04:41 PM
Are mages considered violent in their manipulation of mana like sorcerers?
Sorceres get their juice by KILLING
Us, mages, are we centered with killing as our way to understand and get more comprehension and power from the very nature of essence / mana?
Are mages tradionaly a profession of knowledge?
Why would a mage get more power to enchant via destructive powers? How about spelling others? You don't manipulate mana better each cast? If my 503 or my 911 is saving others by making them harder to kill, why am I not getting more essence than slowing a damn critter?
I'd set a cap per cast per unique target (friendly or unfriendly) per x minutes.
So it'S good for everyone and the grinding will remain
bunnymustdie
05-14-2019, 06:24 PM
Okay, quick poll to see what players of wizards think....
How do you think wizards should acquire essence?
1) Hunting only, where only damage from AS/CS spells counts.
2) Hunting only, where any damage the wizard does counts.
3) Active in general, whether hunting (option number 2) or not; hunting would give more essence than normal, interactive activity
4) Semi-passive, where the wizard needs to be in-game, to acquire a small amount of essense per pulse; hunting would still give more essence.
5) Passive, where all wizards gain a small amount of essense each pulse, no matter if they are in-game or not; hunting would still give more essence.
(Edit: Working on poll, never done this before. :P )
I'm for 5. Voted 4 because it's the closest thing you got in the poll.
Also, your option 4 just means I park my wizard at a table all day long while I go off my business in life.
mgoddess
05-14-2019, 06:40 PM
Are mages considered violent in their manipulation of mana like sorcerers?
Sorceres get their juice by KILLING
Us, mages, are we centered with killing as our way to understand and get more comprehension and power from the very nature of essence / mana?
Are mages tradionaly a profession of knowledge?
Why would a mage get more power to enchant via destructive powers? How about spelling others? You don't manipulate mana better each cast? If my 503 or my 911 is saving others by making them harder to kill, why am I not getting more essence than slowing a damn critter?
I'd set a cap per cast per unique target (friendly or unfriendly) per x minutes.
So it'S good for everyone and the grinding will remain
I'm for 5. Voted 4 because it's the closest thing you got in the poll.
Also, your option 4 just means I park my wizard at a table all day long while I go off my business in life.
Agreed, with both. And, yeah, option 4 is pretty much a recipe for afk-table wizards, but it's certainly better, and more likely a scenario, than option 5.
bunnymustdie
05-14-2019, 08:08 PM
Agreed, with both. And, yeah, option 4 is pretty much a recipe for afk-table wizards, but it's certainly better, and more likely a scenario, than option 5.
I don't see 4 as better than 5, though. I can see the idea behind 4 as being an attempt to get people to participate or something, but on simu's end, it's just something easily exploited by the players and would not serve its intended purpose. On the player's end, it's just an extra hassle. Nothing good comes out of it either way, just half hearted lip service toward pocket enchanters being somehow bad.
5 is realistic and has no weird hoops to jump through or tedium to deal with. I've never had a kill poached by a pocket enchanter, nor had one zip around on my screen obnoxiously when I'm anywhere in game, or annoyed in any other way by one. They seem largely a non-issue to me.
Wrathbringer
05-14-2019, 08:11 PM
I vote passive, in game or out, no bonus for hunting.
Astray
05-14-2019, 10:04 PM
Every spell should give you a form/number of essence, with combat and kills being far more rewarding than a pocket mage just throwing buffs at people.
Neveragain
05-15-2019, 07:47 AM
Or just reduce tempering times.
: Dusts hands :
Next!
gsplayer413
05-15-2019, 07:57 AM
Speaking as a non-capped wizard main, I agree with this.
Every spell should give you a form/number of essence, with combat and kills being far more rewarding than a pocket mage just throwing buffs at people.
I don't care if it takes me all week, hunting a few hours here and there, but, I was able to cap my mana or come close with my current build every week without issue. I didn't cap it last week with the change, and I likely won't this week. People should not have to tweak their builds to use a class defining ability. More effective, yes, just to use it, no.
I love the insta +1 and not having the item locked from use but I'm a bit upset that if I get bored with my wizard, they've now taken away the ability for me to enchant items for my alt in the background unless I also spend a ridiculous amount of time farming essence.
yesicj
05-15-2019, 08:12 AM
I like the idea of 5 because it strikes me as most similar to the most recent version; you want to go crazy maxing out, more power to you. Sometimes I'll play a bunch for a few weeks/months, but also go for long stretches where I can't/won't play or do more than just log in to check on an enchant, and I'd hate to be unable to do anything worthwhile, enchant-wise, during those latter times.
Also, just because I love that someone said this, here's a reply to a krakii post from the officials:
9341
bunnymustdie
05-15-2019, 08:18 AM
I like the idea of 5 because it strikes me as most similar to the most recent version; you want to go crazy maxing out, more power to you. Sometimes I'll play a bunch for a few weeks/months, but also go for long stretches where I can't/won't play or do more than just log in to check on an enchant, and I'd hate to be unable to do anything worthwhile, enchant-wise, during those latter times.
Also, just because I love that someone said this, here's a reply to a krakii post from the officials:
9341
He had it coming. The rest of that post goes on to pwn him pretty good too.
Gelston
05-15-2019, 09:15 AM
They should give enchanting to warriors and rename wizards to nerds and take away all their magic and make them wear glasses.
BriarFox
05-15-2019, 09:20 AM
They should give enchanting to warriors and rename wizards to nerds and take away all their magic and make them wear glasses.
Warrior enchanting: Put two suits of armor on top of each other and hit them with a hammer until they either fall apart (Boom! Catastrophic failure!) or merge into a supersuit (Outstanding attempt! +1 DS).
Gelston
05-15-2019, 09:23 AM
Warrior enchanting: Put two suits of armor on top of each other and hit them with a hammer until they either fall apart (Boom! Catastrophic failure!) or merge into a supersuit (Outstanding attempt! +1 DS).
Sounds like a plan! Route that through Wyrom and get this project up and running.
Wrathbringer
05-15-2019, 09:51 AM
Warrior enchanting: Put two suits of armor on top of each other and hit them with a hammer until they either fall apart (Boom! Catastrophic failure!) or merge into a supersuit (Outstanding attempt! +1 DS).
lol @ your rep
BriarFox
05-15-2019, 10:04 AM
lol @ your rep
?
yesicj
05-15-2019, 10:37 AM
He had it coming. The rest of that post goes on to pwn him pretty good too.
Oh for sure, the whole post was well put, I just really enjoyed the "no one gives a shit about your talk of how it used to be" bit.
Methais
05-15-2019, 03:01 PM
Are mages considered violent in their manipulation of mana like sorcerers?
Sorceres get their juice by KILLING
Us, mages, are we centered with killing as our way to understand and get more comprehension and power from the very nature of essence / mana?
Are mages tradionaly a profession of knowledge?
Why would a mage get more power to enchant via destructive powers? How about spelling others? You don't manipulate mana better each cast? If my 503 or my 911 is saving others by making them harder to kill, why am I not getting more essence than slowing a damn critter?
I'd set a cap per cast per unique target (friendly or unfriendly) per x minutes.
So it'S good for everyone and the grinding will remain
It’s because the weapons and armor you’re enchanting are used for killing. Or something.
kutter
05-15-2019, 04:18 PM
It will never be so that you can just sit in town and cast buffs on people, otherwise, just script an alt sitting at a table and continually casting buff spells at them. To easy to manipulate that system.
As much as it sucks for people with pocket enchanters, overall I think the idea behind the change is good even if the actual implementation sucks.
Gelston
05-15-2019, 06:07 PM
Eh, it destroys the image of an enchanter to me. Mage that just sits in a tower doing magic shit.
Methais
05-15-2019, 06:29 PM
Eh, it destroys the image of an enchanter to me. Mage that just sits in a tower doing magic shit.
https://i.imgur.com/ByxboOx.png
Taernath
05-15-2019, 06:33 PM
The. Rules. Changed.
No more infuse n' chill. 😩💦💦
yesicj
05-15-2019, 07:07 PM
The. Rules. Changed.
No more infuse n' chill.
The last week I spent looking at the officials reminds me why I stopped even reading them, let alone posting, for so long. Jesus, what a bunch of sanctimonious wangs.
Derex
05-15-2019, 07:18 PM
The last week I spent looking at the officials reminds me why I stopped even reading them, let alone posting, for so long. Jesus, what a bunch of sanctimonious wangs.
For some reason I never got into officials ever.... that being said does Simu not listen forreal? Why aren’t they taking polls when doing big mechanic changes to the game and already working systems?
mgoddess
05-15-2019, 07:21 PM
The. Rules. Changed.
No more infuse n' chill.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Taernath again.
bunnymustdie
05-15-2019, 07:55 PM
The last week I spent looking at the officials reminds me why I stopped even reading them, let alone posting, for so long. Jesus, what a bunch of sanctimonious wangs.
Yeah I mostly stay away from the officials on account of autists like that as well.
Astray
05-15-2019, 08:49 PM
The smart thing would be to have a cumulative Elemental Defense that unlocks a threshold at higher levels and replace 406 or 414 with an Essence boost of some manner. The idea that you have damaging spells with no other supplemental methods to boost it is poor optics and even poorer planning.
So...basically Simu doing Simu shit.
Winter
05-15-2019, 10:14 PM
I reached the cap rapid firing 519 with wracking, and even with capped magic skills the amount of time it took was absolutley bonkers. Imo the changes has pretty much killed off enchanting for anyone under lvl 100. The dev team should have really just copied and pasted 735's collection time frame.
Wrathbringer
05-15-2019, 10:21 PM
The last week I spent looking at the officials reminds me why I stopped even reading them, let alone posting, for so long. Jesus, what a bunch of sanctimonious wangs.
This is correct.
Neveragain
05-16-2019, 06:46 AM
I reached the cap rapid firing 519 with wracking, and even with capped magic skills the amount of time it took was absolutley bonkers. Imo the changes has pretty much killed off enchanting for anyone under lvl 100. The dev team should have really just copied and pasted 735's collection time frame.
This is correct.
It should be pretty obvious by now that this was done to cause scarcity so they can sell more enchanting services at their cash grab events.
Neveragain
05-16-2019, 07:29 AM
IF and that’s a big ‘IF’ this is true, that Simu did this all to make enchanting more labor and time intensive in order to sell enchanting certs (even lower end certs like 5x->6x) then that is really fucked up.
Have the well run so dry that Wyrom needs to sponge up on what was a Wizard’s birthright since forever. I don’t believe even Simu will stoop that low.
There's no "big if" to it.
If you accept after testing that they thought "Oh yea this is totally legit, grinding out 40 hours a week is exactly what they want!". You just may be retarded.
If this is to punish table wizards, where is that exact same feelings towards pocket clerics, empaths, bards etc? Should they not also be required to build some form of energy to perform their services?
Plain and simple, they are cannibalizing their customers time investments so they can bilk them for more money.
Congrats, you have reached level 25. You now have a spell you can't use.
Murrandii
05-16-2019, 07:48 AM
We're mostly intelligent people here. I am good faith too by saying they got bright people at simu too.
I am under the impression Wyrom gave 2 conditions for 925 tweaking: annihilate pocket wizards AND put a grinding system related to the amount of skills you have (the higher skills = better at getting essence).
Why those 2 conditions? Objectivaly, it's to answer to a 2019 condition: MOST PEOPLE ARE LAZY AND ARE WILLING TO PAY TO SAVE TIME
It's a marketing concept a lot of companies know: people would rather pay to save time than to do it themselves.
I find those 925 changes to fall completely in that concept WITH the elimination of the pocket wizard ( therefore, forcing an effort in time to enchant).
Methais
05-16-2019, 09:55 AM
I reached the cap rapid firing 519 with wracking, and even with capped magic skills the amount of time it took was absolutley bonkers. Imo the changes has pretty much killed off enchanting for anyone under lvl 100. The dev team should have really just copied and pasted 735's collection time frame.
The current dev crew is all about making things super slow and tedious. And being held accountable for anything at all doesn't exist, so they literally just do whatever the fuck they want no matter how trash it is for the game.
Methais
05-16-2019, 10:00 AM
There's no "big if" to it.
If you accept after testing that they thought "Oh yea this is totally legit, grinding out 40 hours a week is exactly what they want!". You just may be retarded.
If this is to punish table wizards, where is that exact same feelings towards pocket clerics, empaths, bards etc? Should they not also be required to build some form of energy to perform their services?
Plain and simple, they are cannibalizing their customers time investments so they can bilk them for more money.
Congrats, you have reached level 25. You now have a spell you can't use.
As far as I know, Naos's testing consisted of running a script with unlimited mana and it took him 8 hours to hit the weekly cap.
He also has no idea what his lore setup was during this per his own words on Discord, because he's such a pro and all.
I think Naos means well. The problem is he's still stuck in GS3 where everything has to be a super secret formula because reasons, and follows the same general retarded make-everything-slow-and-tedious-and-boring-as-fuck-because-that's-how-we-did-it-playing-pen-and-paper-rpgs-and-by-golly-we-loved-it thought process that people like Doug and Krakii are all about.
I'm pretty sure Krakii's rl job is to just read the forums, because he's in every thread in every folder every day posting retarded shit about how the way things worked in 1993 is somehow still relevant today.
Methais
05-16-2019, 10:02 AM
We're mostly intelligent people here. I am good faith too by saying they got bright people at simu too.
I am under the impression Wyrom gave 2 conditions for 925 tweaking: annihilate pocket wizards AND put a grinding system related to the amount of skills you have (the higher skills = better at getting essence).
Why those 2 conditions? Objectivaly, it's to answer to a 2019 condition: MOST PEOPLE ARE LAZY AND ARE WILLING TO PAY TO SAVE TIME
It's a marketing concept a lot of companies know: people would rather pay to save time than to do it themselves.
I find those 925 changes to fall completely in that concept WITH the elimination of the pocket wizard ( therefore, forcing an effort in time to enchant).
I doubt Wyrom was involved in the dev process for 925 at all. He's pretty hands off with dev for the most part.
Astray
05-16-2019, 10:04 AM
At least Wyrom had the good grace to stay in his lane. The lane of being a useless PM.
bunnymustdie
05-16-2019, 10:21 AM
I think Naos means well. The problem is he's still stuck in GS3 where everything has to be a super secret formula because reasons, and follows the same general retarded make-everything-slow-and-tedious-and-boring-as-fuck-because-that's-how-we-did-it-playing-pen-and-paper-rpgs-and-by-golly-we-loved-it thought process that people like Doug and Krakii are all about.
It was genuinely worrisome when he expressed surprise at someone's figure at how much demand there was for plain 4x noob gear in their shop. Also equally worrisome that he seemed confused that someone would refer to their lvl 96 wizard that they no longer hunted on as worthless after this update.
It's like he means well, but the autism just prevents him from understanding common sense expectations and such the players have. Or he did understand, and was just being passive aggressive. Who knows.
Donquix
05-16-2019, 11:35 AM
It was genuinely worrisome when he expressed surprise at someone's figure at how much demand there was for plain 4x noob gear in their shop. Also equally worrisome that he seemed confused that someone would refer to their lvl 96 wizard that they no longer hunted on as worthless after this update.
It's like he means well, but the autism just prevents him from understanding common sense expectations and such the players have. Or he did understand, and was just being passive aggressive. Who knows.
"why would you want to know how much energy you have?"
fucking what?
Side note, being fixskilled to lolenchanter build to dump all my infused pots (509 + 414 + rest in wizard) before the grace period is hilarious when you spell people up.
multicasting 9 (lol) for mne/ mje, but 1 cast of blurs and your ass is SET from here to eternity.
Taernath
05-16-2019, 11:55 AM
I'm pretty sure Krakii's rl job is to just read the forums, because he's in every thread in every folder every day posting retarded shit about how the way things worked in 1993 is somehow still relevant today.
Do you want to be corrected in an email? Because this is how you get corrected in an email.
Gelston
05-16-2019, 12:00 PM
Do you want to be corrected in an email? Because this is how you get corrected in an email.
Is that how Krakii "takes action"?
Taernath
05-16-2019, 12:10 PM
Is that how Krakii "takes action"?
Possibly. But Matic's reply seems to have ejected him from the thread:
<<<<I corrected him in email.>>
It was given the attention it deserves. Which was being deleted without opening. I'm sure the treatise it contained on how Lord Whosemajunkit dealt with Enchant True back in '89 was super helpful to the discussion. My loss.
https://i.imgur.com/uvFkpkz.gif
Donquix
05-16-2019, 12:18 PM
Possibly. But Matic's reply seems to have ejected him from the thread:
https://i.imgur.com/uvFkpkz.gif
You're welcome. Normally I post on a different account and the only reason I ever saw Krakii's bullshit was they weren't ignored on that account. Which they are now, so i had no clue if they were still whining in the thread or not. I only saw that "i corrected them in email" bullshit because Methais quoted it. Lol
bunnymustdie
05-16-2019, 12:25 PM
Possibly. But Matic's reply seems to have ejected him from the thread:
Did they really eject Matic when Krakii was practically screaming at someone else who was providing constructive feedback to shut up because "durhurr the good old days"? When in the very same thread Wyrom asked for people to provide feedback?
Taernath
05-16-2019, 12:31 PM
Did they really reject Matic when Krakii was practically screaming at someone else who was providing constructive feedback to shut up because "durhurr the good old days"? When in the very same thread Wyrom asked for people to provide feedback?
No, I meant Matic's reply to Krakii was so brutal Krakii was ejected from the thread.
bunnymustdie
05-16-2019, 12:35 PM
No, I meant Matic's reply to Krakii was so brutal Krakii was ejected from the thread.
Good on him then.
Methais
05-16-2019, 12:46 PM
Possibly. But Matic's reply seems to have ejected him from the thread:
https://i.imgur.com/uvFkpkz.gif
Honorable mention goes to this post (http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Professions/Wizard/view/1012) too:
https://i.imgur.com/z34Wt9Y.png
https://i.imgflip.com/314oop.jpg
Krakii in a nutshell:
Person A: “I like PS4 better than XBox.”
Person B: “I like XBox better than PS4!”
Krakii: “Silly children, I had an Atari 2600.”
Person A: “???”
Person B: “???”
Krakii: “That’s right.”
Methais
05-16-2019, 01:02 PM
You're welcome. Normally I post on a different account and the only reason I ever saw Krakii's bullshit was they weren't ignored on that account. Which they are now, so i had no clue if they were still whining in the thread or not. I only saw that "i corrected them in email" bullshit because Methais quoted it. Lol
Krakii hasn't posted again yet, but Doug has since stepped in to pick up the slack for Krakii, though Doug is staying uncharacteristically reasonable for the most part, at least in this thread.
Except for this gem, though it's pretty much irrelevant to the actual topic:
I do like the fact that 'activity' is required. I don't mind that the 'primary' activity selected is hunting. I do like the fact that all of the 100 plus active pocket-enchanting wizards (leading to 400-600 major projects annually, which could arguably be said to be game-breaking) are disadvantaged - not sure how I feel about 'totally removed'. But that is an entirely different topic.
When asked if GS is currently broken...
>>Is GS currently broken?
Not sure. . . I would say it was - but the signal will be the increase in silver prices. AmIRite?!
No, wait. . . let me try again. Not sure. . . I would say it is - but the signal will be converting Immolation to its former glory. AmIRite?!
No, not quite it. . . let's see. Not sure. . . I would say it is - but Meteor Swarm will soon be great again! AmIRite?
So many options to choose from, so little response space.
/facepalm
Here we go again. Let me try rephrasing the question since you seem to have forgotten what I was quoting when I asked it.
>(leading to 400-600 major projects annually, which could arguably be said to be game-breaking) -Doug
Have said 400-600 projects annually broken GS? If so, what did they break and how?
Oh, was SRS BZNS! Sorry, the hyperbole often thrown around gets confusing to me, but I chose to believe it was all in good fun. So FER SRS. . .
Yeah, I would think that left unchecked it did / would. 400 to 600 major projects (or even half that, I would submit) is certainly not in the 'rare' happenstance bucket. Neither you nor I see the actual numbers, so this is only an inference. But in a game where there are about 500-1000-ish active player characters (you know, those that hunt), anything approaching 50% of that population isn't 'rare' at all from my perspective. Queue up all the relevant discussions about costs of items, baseline moving to 6x in game, effects of dumping large quantities of uber items, etc., etc. I can respect if you personally feel for you it is totally rare - you know, from a single mage's perspective. But game wide. . .
Having said that. .
/facepalm
Why you NO FUN bro?
Doug
Apparently all these 7x and higher enchants existing are breaking the game or something. Which he's been saying for a while now, way before these enchant changes happened. I wanna say a while back he made the claim that if wizards could enchant to 10x without super rare potions, then everyone running around with 10x gear would become the norm. :lol:
The officials are so bad that they're good.
Donquix
05-16-2019, 01:27 PM
I like doug and he's nowhere near Krakii. I don't always agree with him, and sometimes I think he's just playing devil's advocate / both sidsing to a fault in addition to those genuine disagreements. He just has a different opinion that trends towards more old school design paradigms, and that's fine.
Krakii is literally a black hole of logic whose brain ceased accepting new information 25 years ago.
Murrandii
05-16-2019, 01:37 PM
Doug is my bro since he called MEthais Bro.
Neveragain
05-16-2019, 02:21 PM
Krakii hasn't posted again yet, but Doug has since stepped in to pick up the slack for Krakii, though Doug is staying uncharacteristically reasonable for the most part, at least in this thread.
Except for this gem, though it's pretty much irrelevant to the actual topic:
When asked if GS is currently broken...
Apparently all these 7x and higher enchants existing are breaking the game or something. Which he's been saying for a while now, way before these enchant changes happened. I wanna say a while back he made the claim that if wizards could enchant to 10x without super rare potions, then everyone running around with 10x gear would become the norm. :lol:
The officials are so bad that they're good.
It's awesome when demons invade and you can't do shit, it's fun as fuck.
Methais
05-16-2019, 02:40 PM
I like doug and he's nowhere near Krakii. I don't always agree with him, and sometimes I think he's just playing devil's advocate / both sidsing to a fault in addition to those genuine disagreements. He just has a different opinion that trends towards more old school design paradigms, and that's fine.
Krakii is literally a black hole of logic whose brain ceased accepting new information 25 years ago.
Yeah Doug is ok, he just tends to take 40 paragraphs to say something that could be done in like 6 words and then half the time you have no idea what he was even talking about by the time you get to the end.
Doug at least has some clue what he's talking about most of the time though whereas Krakii can't make a post without typing at least 6 paragraphs about how things were in GS2 and insisting it's relevant to whatever the current topic is.
I think Doug thinks I hate him. I don't, I just disagree with most of his ideas because they tend to promote tedium, and some of the other stuff he says like high enchants breaking the game, etc.
Krakii though good god he's such a chode. Probably a nice guy irl but total cancer on the forums and usually full of all kinds of misinformation on top of his shitty ideas and insatiable need to be involved in every thread in every folder every day whether he knows what he's talking about or not.
Doug is my bro since he called MEthais Bro.
Douglollione just arrived.
Murrandii
05-16-2019, 02:42 PM
Yeah Doug is ok, he just tends to take 40 paragraphs to say something that could be done in like 6 words and then half the time you have no idea what he was even talking about by the time you get to the end.
Doug at least has some clue what he's talking about most of the time though whereas Krakii can't make a post without typing at least 6 paragraphs about how things were in GS2 and insisting it's relevant to whatever the current topic is.
I think Doug thinks I hate him. I don't, I just disagree with most of his ideas because they tend to promote tedium, and some of the other stuff he says like high enchants breaking the game, etc.
Krakii though good god he's such a chode. Probably a nice guy irl but total cancer on the forums and usually full of all kinds of misinformation on top of his shitty ideas and insatiable need to be involved in every thread in every folder every day whether he knows what he's talking about or not.
Douglollione just arrived.
You tend to see patterns with people saying a lot of words about something that could be said with fewer words: They tend to bullshit / protect interests
Donquix
05-16-2019, 02:43 PM
Krakii:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rzao52ndNA
Methais
05-16-2019, 03:09 PM
Krakii:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rzao52ndNA
:lol:
https://www.universitytranscriptions.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Depositphotos_114818368_xl-2015-825x500.jpg
I wonder if he ever caught onto the krakiipedia joke or if he thinks it was a genuine tribute.
Taernath
05-16-2019, 03:15 PM
I'm sure people have explained it to him over the years, otherwise he'd always be bringing it up.
yesicj
05-16-2019, 03:22 PM
Yeah Doug is ok, he just tends to take 40 paragraphs to say something that could be done in like 6 words and then half the time you have no idea what he was even talking about by the time you get to the end.
Doug at least has some clue what he's talking about most of the time though whereas Krakii can't make a post without typing at least 6 paragraphs about how things were in GS2 and insisting it's relevant to whatever the current topic is.
I think Doug thinks I hate him. I don't, I just disagree with most of his ideas because they tend to promote tedium, and some of the other stuff he says like high enchants breaking the game, etc.
Krakii though good god he's such a chode. Probably a nice guy irl but total cancer on the forums and usually full of all kinds of misinformation on top of his shitty ideas and insatiable need to be involved in every thread in every folder every day whether he knows what he's talking about or not.
Douglollione just arrived.
Aaand like fuckin clockwork
9344
Gelston
05-16-2019, 03:23 PM
I wonder if Krakii still plays, or if he just keeps a sub so he can post.
Donquix
05-16-2019, 03:29 PM
That can't be a real person. That has to be some kind of Markov chain bot someone fed the forums and the old ICE/D&D manuals to.
Methais
05-16-2019, 03:30 PM
Aaand like fuckin clockwork
9344
Hahahahahaha.
For posterity:
I think Naos means well. The problem is he's still stuck in GS3 where everything has to be a super secret formula because reasons, and follows the same general retarded make-everything-slow-and-tedious-and-boring-as-fuck-because-that's-how-we-did-it-playing-pen-and-paper-rpgs-and-by-golly-we-loved-it thought process that people like Doug and Krakii are all about.
I'm pretty sure Krakii's rl job is to just read the forums, because he's in every thread in every folder every day posting retarded shit about how the way things worked in 1993 is somehow still relevant today.
I wonder if Krakii still plays, or if he just keeps a sub so he can post.
According to his forum posts, he still plays, and one of his characters is a wizard, but "playing" to him might just mean something like spamming the forums while being logged into the game.
bunnymustdie
05-16-2019, 04:27 PM
Aaand like fuckin clockwork
9344
Instead of ancient Gemstone history, he's now talking about a whole different game altogether, and suggesting that we balance off of it. Is this an improvement? Or has he been broken?
Taernath
05-16-2019, 04:34 PM
Aaand like fuckin clockwork
9344
The only response that post warrants is another 'yes Krakii, we see you're here'
Otherwise:
I started responding to him like this:
http://i.imgur.com/XBGsTAn.png
Pretty sure it went over his head though...
http://i.imgur.com/Wf3Xdaj.png
Astray
05-16-2019, 04:56 PM
Krakii is a fucking retard.
Donquix
05-16-2019, 05:09 PM
The only response that post warrants is another 'yes Krakii, we see you're here'
Otherwise:
jesus at first i thought that was a screen cap from the current enchant topic and i was like you have got to be shitting me...
audioserf
05-16-2019, 05:45 PM
Aaand like fuckin clockwork
9344
Thanks, I hate it
Wrathbringer
05-16-2019, 09:15 PM
Krakii is a fucking retard.
This is correct.
Tgo01
05-17-2019, 04:35 AM
This is my favorite Krakii story that I never get tired of telling.
This was 8 or 9 years ago but I still remember most of it. Someone on the officials asked a general question about shields, I forget what about exactly. But Krakii responds with about 5 or 6 paragraphs, going into detail about how "back in the day" you used to be able to dual wield shields and shields used to give like +20 TD or some shit, so dual wielding them meant you received +40 TD! So this is how he used to hunt you see, dual wielding shields! He never even came close to answering the guy's question. It was like he saw the keyword "shield" so he copy and pasted over a story from his past about shields.
So the guy asking the question responded with "Hey that's great. Does anyone have an answer to my question?"
I laughed.
Hard.
audioserf
05-17-2019, 07:14 AM
This is my favorite Krakii story that I never get tired of telling.
This was 8 or 9 years ago but I still remember most of it. Someone on the officials asked a general question about shields, I forget what about exactly. But Krakii responds with about 5 or 6 paragraphs, going into detail about how "back in the day" you used to be able to dual wield shields and shields used to give like +20 TD or some shit, so dual wielding them meant you received +40 TD! So this is how he used to hunt you see, dual wielding shields! He never even came close to answering the guy's question. It was like he saw the keyword "shield" so he copy and pasted over a story from his past about shields.
So the guy asking the question responded with "Hey that's great. Does anyone have an answer to my question?"
I laughed.
Hard.
You know the stereotype of the highschool jock who peaked at 17 and never shuts the fuck up about the BIG GAME and wears his Varsity jacket at age 42 and shit? Krakii is that guy but early 1990s Gemstone 3 was his peak and he's going to be trying to get it back forever. Dude probably wears a GSIII t shirt that is just haggard as FUCK by now and hopes someone will ask him a question about it down at the Piggly Wiggly or wherever the fuck.
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 07:51 AM
Due to the deal he made with Simu when he sold Krakiipedia, he has a free lifetime premium sub to the game.
seriously?
Stumplicker
05-17-2019, 08:04 AM
You know the stereotype of the highschool jock who peaked at 17 and never shuts the fuck up about the BIG GAME and wears his Varsity jacket at age 42 and shit? Krakii is that guy but early 1990s Gemstone 3 was his peak and he's going to be trying to get it back forever. Dude probably wears a GSIII t shirt that is just haggard as FUCK by now and hopes someone will ask him a question about it down at the Piggly Wiggly or wherever the fuck.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/528a6756e6382365de46277fac30c61b/tenor.gif?itemid=11805404
Gelston
05-17-2019, 08:56 AM
seriously?
No you fucking retard. He had nothing to do with krakiipedia.
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 09:03 AM
No you fucking retard. He had nothing to do with krakiipedia.
TAke a walk bro
Methais
05-17-2019, 09:04 AM
Instead of ancient Gemstone history, he's now talking about a whole different game altogether, and suggesting that we balance off of it. Is this an improvement? Or has he been broken?
This is regular Krakii behavior.
You know the stereotype of the highschool jock who peaked at 17 and never shuts the fuck up about the BIG GAME and wears his Varsity jacket at age 42 and shit? Krakii is that guy but early 1990s Gemstone 3 was his peak and he's going to be trying to get it back forever. Dude probably wears a GSIII t shirt that is just haggard as FUCK by now and hopes someone will ask him a question about it down at the Piggly Wiggly or wherever the fuck.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/e0/8a/2de08a93b188a0a74437a4104330b769.jpg
Gelston
05-17-2019, 09:11 AM
TAke a walk bro
Stop being a fucking retard, idiot.
Methais
05-17-2019, 09:19 AM
Quit blaming shit on your phone.
Phoneist.
Gelston
05-17-2019, 09:24 AM
Quit blaming shit on your phone.
Phoneist.
Your mom goes to college.
Donquix
05-17-2019, 09:37 AM
You know the stereotype of the highschool jock who peaked at 17 and never shuts the fuck up about the BIG GAME and wears his Varsity jacket at age 42 and shit? Krakii is that guy but early 1990s Gemstone 3 was his peak and he's going to be trying to get it back forever. Dude probably wears a GSIII t shirt that is just haggard as FUCK by now and hopes someone will ask him a question about it down at the Piggly Wiggly or wherever the fuck.
Nah. Krakii is too senile for that.
Drizzdt is Uncle Rico. "you noobs. remember that time i picked locks for 5 years so i could win a pvp tournament 30 years ago? How much you bet I could throw this ensorcellable veil iron axe over them mountains?"
Gemstone is a game where people who played the game off and on for 30 years condescend people who played the game off and on for 28 years by treating them like the noobs that have only played off and on for 25 years.
Stumplicker
05-17-2019, 09:39 AM
I don't buy Drizzsdt as Uncle Rico. Some people actually like Uncle Rico.
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 09:54 AM
Stop being a fucking retard, idiot.
Ah ok, since it's becoming more peaceful on PC, you decided to play the role of the "frustrated angry white man always throwing insults on others"
Your decision man!
Astray
05-17-2019, 09:56 AM
Ah ok, since it's becoming more peaceful on PC, you decided to play the role of the "frustrated angry white man always throwing insults on others"
Your decision man!
No, you're constant idiocy is pretty annoying. Nobody here, except maybe Ososis, gives a shit about you but you insist on being a retard and staying. So here we are.
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 09:58 AM
No, you're constant idiocy is pretty annoying. Nobody here, except maybe Ososis, gives a shit about you but you insist on being a retard and staying. So here we are.
I get you speak on the behalf of everyone on pc except maybe Ososis, I am right?
Taernath
05-17-2019, 09:59 AM
I get you speak on the behalf of everyone on pc except maybe Ososis, I am right?
Right.
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 10:01 AM
I get the contrary, he speaks on the behalf of a few stick-up rednecks like Taenarth, Gelston, ososis and maybe 2-3 other frustrated at life old grampy white men unable to have pleasure in life.
Astray
05-17-2019, 10:03 AM
I get you speak on the behalf of everyone on pc except maybe Ososis, I am right?
You're an absolute, genuine idiot. That's the reason many people look at your excessive bullshit and just move along. Now I'll be joining them again, because you're stupid. Oh so very stupid.
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 10:05 AM
Define stupid and genuine idiot and please give an example per definition.
My hypothese on each definition you'll throw with example will point toward a form of racism and or uncompability with my view of values and or the world vs yours. That's why I say you guys are a bunch of rednecks.
No wonder why people on lnet says PC is not what it was before, it is now a "I-hate-everything".
Cause of guys like you.
On lnet, with the bro attitude, we're trying to make the thing funner. You get what I mean? PEople having FUN, having a good time. Not just renting against their faillure at life like y'all do
Taernath
05-17-2019, 10:07 AM
Define stupid and genuine idiot and please give an example per definition.
My hypothese on each definition you'll throw with example will point toward a form of racism and or uncompability with my view of values and or the world vs yours. That's why I say you guys are a bunch of rednecks.
No wonder why people on lnet says PC is not what it was before, it is now a "I-hate-everything".
Cause of guys like you.
On lnet, with the bro attitude, we're trying to make the thing funner. You get what I mean? PEople having FUN, having a good time. Not just renting against their faillure at life like y'all do
Lol the poutine packer thinks you're racist against Canadians, Astray
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 10:09 AM
Lol the poutine packer thinks you're racist against Canadians, Astray
BANG, taenorth is cornered and is demonstrating what I'm saying: a mere caricature of the archetype definied
Astray
05-17-2019, 10:11 AM
Lol the poutine packer thinks you're racist against Canadians, Astray
That's fine, because like I said, he's a genuine idiot.
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 10:13 AM
That's fine, because like I said, he's a genuine idiot.
Thanks for not wanting to enter the dance, in case you'd be proven how narrow minded you are with your insults.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
05-17-2019, 10:40 AM
I like poutine.
Methais
05-17-2019, 12:27 PM
I like poutine.
https://i.imgflip.com/3182lr.jpg
PROTIP: POUTINE is only 2 letters away from PUTIN.
https://pics.me.me/rootin-tootin-vladimir-putin-7351792.png
Donquix
05-17-2019, 01:48 PM
I'll make fun of Canada all day, until I get bored of it. It's so easy (it's fine, they can go see a psychiatrist for free with their universal healthcare and talk it out)
But poutine is fucking delicious.
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 02:13 PM
.https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/03/30/cd/34/frites-alors.jpg
Astray
05-17-2019, 02:20 PM
I'll make fun of Canada all day, until I get bored of it. It's so easy (it's fine, they can go see a psychiatrist for free with their universal healthcare and talk it out)
But poutine is fucking delicious.
I get a ton of business from Canadians in the winter. They run from the cold then run from the heat when summer rolls through here.
mgoddess
05-17-2019, 03:29 PM
Poutine is fucking delicious.
This is correct.
Methais
05-17-2019, 03:32 PM
Poutine looks like shart fries.
https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/11873576_f520.jpg
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 03:53 PM
see bro methais, that poutine is what we used to eat in the 80s-90s. I ate so much of that crap, I can't eat anymore
We need more stuff in it, otherwise it's just a pound of fat LOL
Methais
05-17-2019, 04:10 PM
I ate so much of that crap
So they are shart fries after all...
Neveragain
05-17-2019, 04:22 PM
see bro methais, that poutine is what we used to eat in the 80s-90s. I ate so much of that crap, I can't eat anymore
We need more stuff in it, otherwise it's just a pound of fat LOL
See, Americans would throw a pile of bacon on that shit and it would be vastly superior. Sadly, Canadians can't do that because even their bacon is fake. Just like "French" Canadians.
Methais
05-17-2019, 04:23 PM
See, Americans would throw a pile of bacon on that shit and it would be vastly superior. Sadly, Canadians can't do that because even their bacon is fake. Just like "French" Canadians.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/352/547/8e2.jpg
kutter
05-17-2019, 04:27 PM
See, Americans would throw a pile of bacon on that shit and it would be vastly superior. Sadly, Canadians can't do that because even their bacon is fake. Just like "French" Canadians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsyJb8d4YCY
Sorry for the poor quality, but it was all youtube had.
Murrandii
05-17-2019, 04:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsyJb8d4YCY
Sorry for the poor quality, but it was all youtube had.
I don't get it… ok had to put the headphone on and listened to it like 10 times.
Sometimes she'S canadian, sometimes she's french.
Ok, well, I never heard about that kind of joke before LOL
mgoddess
05-17-2019, 06:27 PM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/352/547/8e2.jpg
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, oh my gods.......
Gelston
05-17-2019, 06:53 PM
Puerto Rican Food >>>>>>> Canadian Food.
gs4-PauperSid
05-17-2019, 09:15 PM
Puerto Rican Food >>>>>>> Canadian Food.
From tonight..[emoji16]
-J
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Fortybox
05-20-2019, 06:30 PM
.https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/03/30/cd/34/frites-alors.jpg
Looks like you took a massive dump in a pot. Gross.
Merzbow
05-20-2019, 06:56 PM
Why the fuck are you eating fries out of a dog bowl?
Gelston
05-20-2019, 06:59 PM
Why the fuck are you eating fries out of a dog bowl?
because he is a canadian. They also eat 60% of the world's supply of kraft dinner every week.
Fortybox
05-20-2019, 07:13 PM
Poutine looks like shart fries.
https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/11873576_f520.jpg
https://a0.fanbread.com/uploads/blog/featured_image/81910/large_cropped_Untitled-1.jpg
Murrandii
05-20-2019, 07:16 PM
because he is a canadian. They also eat 60% of the world's supply of kraft dinner every week.
I do not wish to be your friend, you can stop talking about me.
Gelston
05-20-2019, 07:22 PM
I do not wish to be your friend, you can stop talking about me.
I wasn't talking to you, I was talking about you. This is me talking to you.
Murrandii
05-20-2019, 07:36 PM
I wasn't talking to you, I was talking about you. This is me talking to you.
Tell me why it is important for you to do so
Gelston
05-20-2019, 07:41 PM
Tell me why it is important for you to do so
it isn't
Murrandii
05-20-2019, 08:00 PM
it isn't
Gotcha.
I expect now you will stop talking about it.
Gelston
05-20-2019, 08:01 PM
Gotcha.
I expect now you will stop talking about it.
You can expect whatever you want, it won't be reality.
Murrandii
05-20-2019, 08:05 PM
Opposition syndrom here. Interesting.
Do you always feel the urge to oppose yourself or it'S only when you're at your computer?
If the latter, tell me how you feel when the thought is in your head.
Gelston
05-20-2019, 08:05 PM
Opposition syndrom here. Interesting.
Do you always feel the urge to oppose yourself or it'S only when you're at your computer?
If the latter, tell me how you feel when the thought is in your head.
I'm not opposing myself, I'm calling you a fucking retard.
Fortybox
05-20-2019, 08:26 PM
Geez you two, get a room.
In a horse costume, which one of you would be the head and the other the butt? I'm curious.
https://media.giphy.com/media/VZ7iUiwSCsagU/giphy.gif
Murrandii
05-20-2019, 08:26 PM
I'm not opposing myself, I'm calling you a fucking retard.
Why?
Do you feel the urge to insult perfect stranges often or it's only when you're in security and feel strong (in front of your computer)
Gelston
05-20-2019, 08:28 PM
Why?
Do you feel the urge to insult perfect stranges often or it's only when you're in security and feel strong (in front of your computer)
Because you're a moron.
Murrandii
05-20-2019, 08:37 PM
Because you're a moron.
What's your criteras to determin if someone is a moron?
Gelston
05-20-2019, 08:40 PM
What's your criteras to determin if someone is a moron?
Go back and read all your posts. That is the criteria.
Murrandii
05-20-2019, 08:42 PM
Resume that in 4-5 well structured sentences. Please adjectives to reinforce your idea,
Gelston
05-20-2019, 08:48 PM
Resume that in 4-5 well structured sentences. Please adjectives to reinforce your idea,
It doesn't take 4-5 sentences or adjectives. You're a moron. A fucking moron. And idiotic dumbass shartsucking moron.
Murrandii
05-20-2019, 09:45 PM
It doesn't take 4-5 sentences or adjectives. You're a moron. A fucking moron. And idiotic dumbass shartsucking moron.
Why?
Suppa Hobbit Mage
05-20-2019, 09:46 PM
Geez you two, get a room.
In a horse costume, which one of you would be the head and the other the butt? I'm curious.
https://media.giphy.com/media/VZ7iUiwSCsagU/giphy.gif
I would probably pay a few bucks to watch the zebra dance live.
Fortybox
05-20-2019, 10:00 PM
I would probably pay a few bucks to watch the zebra dance live.
Me too.
kutter
05-21-2019, 07:58 AM
Geez you two, get a room.
In a horse costume, which one of you would be the head and the other the butt? I'm curious.
https://media.giphy.com/media/VZ7iUiwSCsagU/giphy.gif
Can't see that without thinking of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMauGc2oy7w
Methais
05-21-2019, 08:51 AM
perfect stranges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbnLYROCj8
Parkbandit
05-21-2019, 08:58 AM
Define stupid and genuine idiot
http://forum.gsplayers.com/image.php?u=11602&dateline=1550613289
http://forum.gsplayers.com/member.php?11602-Murrandii
Murrandii
05-21-2019, 09:12 AM
http://forum.gsplayers.com/image.php?u=11602&dateline=1550613289
http://forum.gsplayers.com/member.php?11602-Murrandii
I get you find people you don't agree with "stupid".
There's really a consensus among you, people, LOL.
You share the same kind of mentality.
Astray
05-21-2019, 09:22 AM
I get you find people you don't agree with "stupid".
There's really a consensus among you, people, LOL.
You share the same kind of mentality.
You are stupid. Plenty of people call you a fucking idiot and every day, with your fractured English, you prove them right. Weird, that.
Murrandii
05-21-2019, 09:28 AM
You are stupid. Plenty of people call you a fucking idiot and every day, with your fractured English, you prove them right. Weird, that.
Ahh there we go
Fractured English = stupid
Source: https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/how-many-people-speak-english-and-where-is-it-spoken
Out of the world’s approximately 7.5 billion inhabitants, 1.5 billion speak English — that’s 20% of the Earth’s population. However, most of those people aren’t native English speakers. About 360 million people speak English as their first language. In addition to being widely spoken, English is by far the most commonly studied foreign language in the world, followed by French at a distant second.
360m / 7500m = 4,8% aren't stupid
You guys share the same mental patterns, share the same view of the world. That alone, for me, is more probant as a qualification to "stupidity" than being "stupid" cause your third language is broken
LOL
Astray
05-21-2019, 09:32 AM
Ahh there we go
Fractured English = stupid
Source: https://www.babbel.com/en/magazine/how-many-people-speak-english-and-where-is-it-spoken
Out of the world’s approximately 7.5 billion inhabitants, 1.5 billion speak English — that’s 20% of the Earth’s population. However, most of those people aren’t native English speakers. About 360 million people speak English as their first language. In addition to being widely spoken, English is by far the most commonly studied foreign language in the world, followed by French at a distant second.
360m / 7500m = 4,8% aren't stupid
You guys share the same mental patterns, share the same view of the world. That alone, for me, is more probant as a qualification to "stupidity" than being "stupid" cause your third language is broken
LOL
See, you missed the point. Stupid ass.
Murrandii
05-21-2019, 09:34 AM
Yes, yes, I did.
Keep your narrowed thicked point of view, in case you'd change and become something else… wooooow
Cause it'S proven, change = bad
Astray
05-21-2019, 09:36 AM
Yes, yes, I did.
Yep, you're downright fucking retarded.
Makkah
05-21-2019, 09:46 AM
Yep, you're downright fucking retarded.
You're actually coming off as quite the douchebag.
Astray
05-21-2019, 09:48 AM
You're actually coming off as quite the douchebag.
I'm aware.
Murrandii
05-21-2019, 09:49 AM
IT's old stuff, it's white oriented point of view stuff, so you should feel secured:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_(psychology)
It was once applied to people with an IQ of 51–70, being superior in one degree to "imbecile" (IQ of 26–50) and superior in two degrees to "idiot" (IQ of 0–25). The word moron, along with others including, "idiotic", "imbecilic", "stupid", and "feeble-minded", was formerly considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, but it is now deprecated in use by psychologists.[7]Moron" and other words like it — such as "idiot" — were used to support racists, classist ideas and to advance white supremacy behind the mask of scientific advancement.[8]
In the obsolete medical classification (ICD-9, 1977), these people (morons and feeble-minded) were said to have "mild mental retardation", "mild mental subnormality" or "high-grade defect" with IQ 50–70.[9]
For university studies (that I have);
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-general-IQ-of-university-students-Can-a-person-study-at-a-university-with-an-average-IQ/answer/Thomas-B-Walsh
In short, there's a correlation with IQ and studies.
Another point: there's also a correlation with the amount of languages you speak and your IQ ( https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/03/the-advantages-of-speaking-two-languages/ ( 1 american out of 4 speaks another language LOL)
Another point: I'm considered an "expert" in my field for my work stuff. That means, people consult me. (definition: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/expert.html )
How about you?
Oh, sorry, you're just angry white male in a random forum LOL
Astray
05-21-2019, 09:50 AM
Oh, sorry, you're just angry white male in a random forum LOL
LOL, you played a race card when I'm not even white. Oh God, that's incredible. You really are genuinely stupid.
Saving that for later.
RichardCranium
05-21-2019, 09:51 AM
You're actually coming off as quite the douchebag.
All I really got out of this thread is that Taernath is a redneck.
Murrandii
05-21-2019, 09:51 AM
LOL, you played a race card when I'm not even white. Oh God, that's incredible. You really are genuinely stupid.
Ain't fun to generalize huh? ;)
Methais
05-21-2019, 09:53 AM
You're actually coming off as quite the douchebag.
FT10 FGT
Astray
05-21-2019, 09:54 AM
Ain't fun to generalize huh? ;)
I have no problem with being called white. I'm not but the classification doesn't bother me. Just hilarious that you're so incapable of an insult you go to 'CUZ YOU'RE WHITE'. You dumbass.
Methais
05-21-2019, 09:55 AM
Ain't fun to generalize huh? ;)
Astray is Mexican. Or one of those taco people from down that way.
Astray
05-21-2019, 09:55 AM
Astray is Mexican. Or one of those taco people from down that way.
Mexican and Native American! Plenty of ammo there but I'm heading out to work so I won't see it till I get back.
Tag out!
Taernath
05-21-2019, 09:57 AM
All I really got out of this thread is that Taernath is a redneck.
The reddest.
Murrandii
05-21-2019, 09:58 AM
I have no problem with being called white. I'm not but the classification doesn't bother me. Just hilarious that you're so incapable of an insult you go to 'CUZ YOU'RE WHITE'. You dumbass.
lol
You are stupid. Plenty of people call you a fucking idiot and every day, with your fractured English, you prove them right. Weird, that.
Taernath
05-21-2019, 10:00 AM
I have no problem with being called white. I'm not but the classification doesn't bother me. Just hilarious that you're so incapable of an insult you go to 'CUZ YOU'RE WHITE'. You dumbass.
I sent you some reputation reparations.
Methais
05-21-2019, 10:01 AM
Mexican and Native American! Plenty of ammo there but I'm heading out to work so I won't see it till I get back.
Tag out!
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Methais
05-21-2019, 11:40 AM
Hit weekly cap in about 2 hours today between Confluence cold side which is base level 95 and then moved to hot side which is base level 100 for probably the last 45 minutes. Cold side using 502 & 903 steam, hot side spamming 907, and 2 deaths which probably added an extra 15-20 minutes.
Harness Power......................| 403 303
Elemental Mana Control.............| 302 202
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 187 87
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 160 60
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 90 20
Elemental Lore - Water.............| 130 35
Which is probably 10-20x faster than I hit it last week and week before. Which is probably why they made actual enchants 73289042x more difficult.
Maerit
05-21-2019, 11:49 AM
Testing on the test server demonstrated that 202 ranks in lores and 202 ranks in EMC was a significant boost in power. Things that were a miracle at 303 wiz, 202 AS/MIU became moderately difficult with 101 AS/MI and 202 EMC/Lores.
rolfard
05-21-2019, 12:34 PM
Is it confirmed how inferior 202 ranks of one lore is compared to the 50 50 50 52 split?
drauz
05-21-2019, 12:43 PM
Is it confirmed how inferior 202 ranks of one lore is compared to the 50 50 50 52 split?
Yes, Tysong did a test and it made a huge difference.
Methais
05-21-2019, 02:10 PM
Yes, Tysong did a test and it made a huge difference.
They're pushing this "strive for mediocrity" thing pretty hard.
Donquix
05-21-2019, 03:38 PM
Is it confirmed how inferior 202 ranks of one lore is compared to the 50 50 50 52 split?
it seems to be based on bonus. so 202 of 1 = 302 bonus
even just 40 of each is 560 bonus
so... a lot.
Murrandii
05-21-2019, 03:44 PM
Yaku on teras told me with the recent changes, his axe I was able to do at 97% is impossible. I checked, and it was impossible.
So with the changes, they force people to hunt to get mana but made the formula harder to enchant if you're not specialized… and ultra specialized makes hunting harder (a little like those pocket wizards were trained to get those ultra high items).
So now, you gain more essences but items are harder unless you become less efficient to gather essence?
OUatte de phoque?
Parkbandit
05-21-2019, 06:24 PM
I get you find people you don't agree with "stupid".
There's really a consensus among you, people, LOL.
You share the same kind of mentality.
There are plenty of people I disagree with whom I don't consider stupid.
You just aren't one of them.
Murrandii
05-21-2019, 06:56 PM
There are plenty of people I disagree with whom I don't consider stupid.
You just aren't one of them.
Ok.
I don't know you so I cannot have a true opinion of you. So I'll leave you with your opinion and I'll keep mine.
Parkbandit
05-21-2019, 07:05 PM
Ok.
I don't know you so I cannot have a true opinion of you. So I'll leave you with your opinion and I'll keep mine.
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Murrandii
05-21-2019, 08:37 PM
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Tell me how you felt when you:
1) took the time to search for the meme
2) copied the URL
3) went back to this forum
4) pasted the url after quoting me
5) pressed the "Post quick reply" button (that part is important, please focus more on this part)
Fortybox
05-21-2019, 09:42 PM
Tell me how you felt when you:
1) took the time to search for the meme
2) copied the URL
3) went back to this forum
4) pasted the url after quoting me
5) pressed the "Post quick reply" button (that part is important, please focus more on this part)
Your quoted post above is why I don't believe your command of the English language is as poor as you make it out to be. Some posts are just fine vs. others are obviously faked. You may be French speaking but your English is better than you pretend it to be.
You slipped up brah.
Murrandii
05-21-2019, 10:39 PM
Thanks man.
When you'll be a french speaker and you'll learn another language, i.e. English, we'll talk about the general difficulties we encounter, mainly the damn frustrating adjective you guys put BEFORE the noun ( a blue car) when us, french speakers, put AFTER the noun (une voiture bleue).
When you'll be french speaker and you'll learn another language, i.e. English, we'll talk about some other general difficulties we encounter, mainly the gender and number of words in general. In french, the noun has a gender, EVERY damn noun has a gender and that gender determine the gender of the determinant (the) and the adjective.
So, for example, you can say la table bleue (table is feminine, the determine is accorded to the noun, so feminine, and the adjective is feminine). Moreever, some verb tense ARE INFLUENCED by it. La table bleue est briséE (notice the E at the end of past participle).
And I just spoke about gender, plural is ANOTHER iteration. And it's jsut adjective, plural and gender rules here. I could throw other rules my kids are struggling with when learning English and they say: Dad, you're so good in English. I laugh when they say so.. LOL.
Why this? You'll notice, if you care, I got issues on lnet with plural, for example. You guys DON'T use a determinant when using plural (horses are cool, women are beautiful). We do so often I'll say: the horses are cool, the women are beautiful. It makes no sense for you, it does for me with my mind thinking in french.
So, usually, my English is better in the morning and gets worst in evening cause my brain tends to speak more in french and stick to it mainly the rules I'm conditioned (like you guys are with English).
But thanks again man, next time on discord, don't be shy and get a mike. I'll speak to you and you'll be surprised how good my English is good verbally. And then you'll find I do some mistakes here and there. It's fascinating, isn't?
n.b. According to my job, I'm considered FULLY bilingual. I can do workshops in English for half a day. I can prepare business cases and busines requirements with the right vocabulary. As you can imagine, the wording used is very technical so "easier" than the day-to-day words I exchange with you guys.
ARE YOU THINKING … THAT…? Am I arguing with some of you, speaking nicely with others to improve myself? I AM USING SOME OF YOU? OH DAMN! I GOT CAUGHT! LOL
Fortybox
05-21-2019, 10:50 PM
Thanks man.
When you'll be a french speaker and you'll learn another language, i.e. English, we'll talk about the general difficulties we encounter, mainly the damn frustrating adjective you guys put BEFORE the noun ( a blue car) when us, french speakers, put AFTER the noun (une voiture bleue).
When you'll be french speaker and you'll learn another language, i.e. English, we'll talk about some other general difficulties we encounter, mainly the gender and number of words in general. In french, the noun has a gender, EVERY damn noun has a gender and that gender determine the gender of the determinant (the) and the adjective.
So, for example, you can say la table bleue (table is feminine, the determine is accorded to the noun, so feminine, and the adjective is feminine). Moreever, some verb tense ARE INFLUENCED by it. La table bleue est briséE (notice the E at the end of past participle).
And I just spoke about gender, plural is ANOTHER iteration. And it's jsut adjective, plural and gender rules here. I could throw other rules my kids are struggling with when learning English and they say: Dad, you're so good in English. I laugh when they say so.. LOL.
Why this? You'll notice, if you care, I got issues on lnet with plural, for example. You guys DON'T use a determinant when using plural (horses are cool, women are beautiful). We do so often I'll say: the horses are cool, the women are beautiful. It makes no sense for you, it does for me with my mind thinking in french.
So, usually, my English is better in the morning and gets worst in evening cause my brain tends to speak more in french and stick to it mainly the rules I'm conditioned (like you guys are with English).
But thanks again man, next time on discord, don't be shy and get a mike. I'll speak to you and you'll be surprised how good my English is good verbally. And then you'll find I do some mistakes here and there. It's fascinating, isn't?
n.b. According to my job, I'm considered FULLY bilingual. I can do workshops in English for half a day. I can prepare business cases and busines requirements with the right vocabulary. As you can imagine, the wording used is very technical so "easier" than the day-to-day words I exchange with you guys.
ARE YOU THINKING … THAT…? Am I arguing with some of you, speaking nicely with others to improve myself? I AM USING SOME OF YOU? OH DAMN! I GOT CAUGHT! LOL
...wut? This is too long - I didn't read bro.
Parkbandit
05-22-2019, 06:40 AM
Tell me how you felt when you:
1) took the time to search for the meme
2) copied the URL
3) went back to this forum
4) pasted the url after quoting me
5) pressed the "Post quick reply" button (that part is important, please focus more on this part)
It took you 4x as long to post this list as it did for me to actually do it.
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Parkbandit
05-22-2019, 06:41 AM
n.b. According to my job, I'm considered FULLY bilingual.
You spelled retarded wrong.
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 07:04 AM
...wut? This is too long - I didn't read bro.
read it, it's worth it.
Flimbro (MEthais) would understand what I mean and even throw some examples at it. For us, french speakers, you guys, English speakers, do the same kind of mistakes everytime (gender and plural).
So instead of saying: la table, you will often say LE table. LOL
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 07:05 AM
It took you 4x as long to post this list as it did for me to actually do it.
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For someone throwing retard bombs everywhere, you seem to have problems understanding. I'll repeat:
Tell me how you felt when you:
1) took the time to search for the meme
2) copied the URL
3) went back to this forum
4) pasted the url after quoting me
5) pressed the "Post quick reply" button (that part is important, please focus more on this part)
Parkbandit
05-22-2019, 07:50 AM
For someone throwing retard bombs everywhere, you seem to have problems understanding. I'll repeat:
Tell me how you felt when you:
1) took the time to search for the meme
2) copied the URL
3) went back to this forum
4) pasted the url after quoting me
5) pressed the "Post quick reply" button (that part is important, please focus more on this part)
Retard
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 07:56 AM
A moment in falgrin's life:
His wife: supper time, Falgrin! Come eat!
Falgrin: Won't be long, I'm telling someone he's a retard
His wife: Again?
Falgrin: Yeah but I like to decompress my stress on this forum, it does me good. And I'm educating people there. Cause it'S important.
Wife: Your meal is ready!
Falgrin: One last post, I swear!
Who's the retard bro? Me that REALLY enjoy this forum, make gemstone a better game on lnet and improve myself with you guys or YOU that just throw your thick minded opinion (as if someone will change his with your narrow minded stuff) and call others (mostly those you disagree with) retards?
Parkbandit
05-22-2019, 07:57 AM
A moment in falgrin's life:
His wife: supper time, Falgrin! Come eat!
Falgrin: Won't be long, I'm telling someone he's a retard
His wife: Again?
Falgrin: Yeah but I like to decompress my stress on this forum, it does me good. And I'm educating people there. Cause it'S important.
Wife: Your meal is ready!
Falgrin: One last post, I swear!
Who's the retard bro? Me that REALLY enjoy this forum, make gemstone a better game on lnet and improve myself with you guys or YOU that just throw your thick minded opinion (as if someone will change his with your narrow minded stuff) and call others (mostly those you disagree with) retards?
Retard.
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 07:59 AM
Retard.
LOL
You're like 50 years old… REMEMBER... LOL!!!
LOL
Gelston
05-22-2019, 08:01 AM
LOL
You're like 50 years old… REMEMBER... LOL!!!
LOL
And you're retarded. lol
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 08:05 AM
9348
LOL! You 2 genious don't even understand the definition of the word and repeat it ad nauseam like … like… I won't say it ;)
Gelston
05-22-2019, 08:06 AM
9348
LOL! You 2 genious don't even understand the definition of the word and repeat it ad nauseam like … like… I won't say it ;)
I know what the word means. You are mentally deficient. Slow. U r StUpId. We came to this consensus because you post in the manner of a retard.
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 08:10 AM
I know what the word means. You are mentally deficient. Slow. U r StUpId. We came to this consensus because you post in the manner of a retard.
Interesting.
The consensus from you (and Falgrin and that other astrat guy) is there cause I post in the manner of a retard
Define the word "MANNER" with your point in mind please
Gelston
05-22-2019, 08:12 AM
Interesting.
The consensus from you (and Falgrin and that other astrat guy) is there cause I post in the manner of a retard
Define the word "MANNER" with your point in mind please
Like I said, you're retarded.
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 08:18 AM
Like I said, you're retarded.
You know where I'm going and you know I'll throw many genious of the world who worked in English but had problems with it (most famous: Einstein).
You know I'll go there but you just stop cause you don't have any other argument and you'll be proven wrong. So keep going in circle with your insult, I'm sure you feel stronger just repeating this overtime LOL.
Gelston
05-22-2019, 08:20 AM
You know where I'm going and you know I'll throw many genious of the world who worked in English but had problems with it (most famous: Einstein).
You know I'll go there but you just stop cause you don't have any other argument and you'll be proven wrong. So keep going in circle with your insult, I'm sure you feel stronger just repeating this overtime LOL.
You keep proving the point that you are, in fact, retarded.
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 08:21 AM
You keep proving the point that you are, in fact, retarded.
Envious little boy;)
Gelston
05-22-2019, 08:21 AM
Envious little boy;)
Retarded little canadian
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 08:23 AM
Retarded little canadian
That you envy, LOL
Gelston
05-22-2019, 08:24 AM
That you envy, LOL
I don't know where you got that idea, because I don't. Must be your severe case of retardation.
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 08:33 AM
I don't know where you got that idea, because I don't. Must be your severe case of retardation.
You're envious.
You smell it, you clearly demonstrate a pattern of envy:
You're just average, like everyone around you. You're an average average guy that spend his time on average forum. When something out of the ordinary comes (like me), you feel the urge to oppose it. Why? Cause you envy the difference.
Instead of bringing changes in your life that would bring you insecurity at first but happiness in the end, you demonstrate a mix of anger and denial to secure yourself in your "choices" (notice the " = you didn't choose).
So instead of focusing on yourself, you just throw envy on others.
Gelston
05-22-2019, 08:34 AM
You're envious.
You smell it, you clearly demonstrate a pattern of envy:
You're just average, like everyone around you. You're an average average guy that spend his time on average forum. When something out of the ordinary comes (like me), you feel the urge to oppose it. Why? Cause you envy the difference.
Instead of bringing changes in your life that would bring you insecurity at first but happiness in the end, you demonstrate a mix of anger and denial to secure yourself in your "choices" (notice the " = you didn't choose).
So instead of focusing on yourself, you just throw envy on others.
More of that retard logic.
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 08:39 AM
More of that retard logic.
Denial
Gelston
05-22-2019, 08:42 AM
Denial
Retardial.
Parkbandit
05-22-2019, 08:48 AM
You're envious.
You smell it, you clearly demonstrate a pattern of envy:
You're just average, like everyone around you. You're an average average guy that spend his time on average forum. When something out of the ordinary comes (like me), you feel the urge to oppose it. Why? Cause you envy the difference.
Instead of bringing changes in your life that would bring you insecurity at first but happiness in the end, you demonstrate a mix of anger and denial to secure yourself in your "choices" (notice the " = you didn't choose).
So instead of focusing on yourself, you just throw envy on others.
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Taernath
05-22-2019, 09:46 AM
When something out of the ordinary comes (like me)
I laughed.
Murrandii
05-22-2019, 09:54 AM
I laughed.
I know, you aren't like them. You're more like dalabrac, probably just bored or with an old teen pattern that just won't die. I'm sure both of you are pricks to your friends too.
Astra guy, gelston and falgrin aren't like that.
Ososis is your average flat earther guy we all know and generaly avoid too LOL
Stumplicker
05-22-2019, 09:56 AM
Ososis is your average flat earther guy we all know and generaly avoid too LOL
I found a picture of him in his natural habitat.
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Methais
05-22-2019, 10:13 AM
...wut? This is too long - I didn't read bro.
Shut up Fortybro(x)
Parkbandit
05-22-2019, 10:44 AM
I found a picture of him in his natural habitat.
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LOL that would explain his rage.
Fortybox
05-22-2019, 09:59 PM
Shut up Fortybro(x)
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