A very insensitive moment

Okay, so I end up hosting a dinner last night. A few people showed up and some unexpected guests show up as well. Either way, it turned into less of a dinner and more of "just drink some beers"

Well, as things were winding down this girl starts taking tape off the door that I was painting earlier.

She was all like, "Well, you need a razor to cut the rest off"

I say, "Okay, I think I'll just leave it to you"

She's all like, "You don't want to put a razor in my hands!"

I'm all like, "WTF?!"

And then she shows me her scarred up arms. I was like.. "WTF!?!" it was obviously cry for help bullshit so I told her exactly how I felt.

"That shit belongs in highschool. Cut that loose. Though if you're going to keep on doing it, at the very least go vertically and not horizontally and do the job right!"

My friend Alex quickly told me to be quiet. Apparantly I have no tolerance for that emo shit. Anyway, that's my story. Insensitive or the right thing, YOU decide!

- Arkans

[Edaarin]

You should have given her a loaded gun.

What was that statistic? Girls "attempt" suicide several times more than guys, but guys actually kill themselves four or five times more than girls? Stupid drama queens.

I couldn't agree more. If I had a loaded gun I would have given it to her and told her to go outside not to fuck up my carpets.

- Arkans

:clap:

[Kainen]

Unless the chick was a CLOSE friend of your's she should have kept that shit to herself. Fucking people don't know how to suck it up in public and save that stuff for when you are alone.. or with someone you can talk to. I think she got exacty what she deserved, you aren't her damn counseler. There's a time and a place for everything.. and she missed the mark.

I've seen her a total of like.. 4 times in my life and for no longer than like 30 min apiece.

- Arkans

[Warriorbird]

I had a chick attempt suicide in front of me once. It was one of the most pathetic things ever. She was angry I stopped her. Drunk out of my mind, hauling this stupid drunk chick up the hill and away from the dam and she's yelling at me. Knocked my glasses off and over the dam.

Back at the cabin she's like, "I bet you really want to fuck me now."

I told her she was a crazy whore who should be thankful (we'd been broken up about a month at that point).

The morning after she threatened to turn us all in for underage drinking... when she'd drunk two bottles of Boones Farm herself the previous evening before her attempt. Then she decided she wanted to carve her best friends name into her arm and try to slit her wrists while we weren't paying attention.

I punched her arm and took away the damn razor blade. I'm not a Ben style advocate of violence towards women, but damn, sometimes it is necessary.

Later that day she burned about a years worth of my creative work.... fiction/poetry while some of the rest of us were off hiking and her and another girl and guy were supposedly roasting marshmallows for S'mores.

Later still, when I got into college my parents would constantly try to set me up on dates with her. She apparently "constantly" asked about me (she went to the college they teach at.)

I think it all contributed to me being a lot less of a feminist. I have a hard time tolerating emo crap either. If you're going to do yourself in there ought to be a decent reason.... not "I'm depressed because nobody likes me in high school." "My heart is a pit of black blackness" or any of that bullshit.

[Edited on 3-4-2005 by Warriorbird]

I would have let her do the deed. To each their own though. There is nothing I tolerate less than this shit.

- Arkans

[Warriorbird]

Yeah. I've got an overblown and misplaced sense of justice at times.

[Skeeter]

Should have hit her in the head with a brick. woulda looked like an accident.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Warriorbird

The morning after she threatened to turn us all in for underage drinking... when she'd drunk two bottles of Boones Farm herself the previous evening before her attempt.


Just reading about teens drinking Boones Farm makes me laugh

And remember folks..

Friends don't let friend go goth/emo

- Arkans

[Miss X]

Awww, gotta love the compassion. I hope in the same situation I would have done my best to help the girl but then, I'm a sucker for people in need!

On a different note... Emo guys = yummy.

[Sylph]

Somes you are just my fucking hero, Arkans.

[Slingblade]

Originally posted by Miss X
Awww, gotta love the compassion. I hope in the same situation I would have done my best to help the girl but then, I'm a sucker for people in need!

There's a big difference between being in need and being a stupid attention whore with issues.

I agree with the above statement. I think is someone REALLY wants to snuff it, then they will. This was just some lame high school shit and I would have been more than glad to tell her correct and working ways of suicide.

- Arkans

[Alarke]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by Warriorbird

The morning after she threatened to turn us all in for underage drinking... when she'd drunk two bottles of Boones Farm herself the previous evening before her attempt.


Just reading about teens drinking Boones Farm makes me laugh
Funny... I was thinking the same thing. Especially the fact that one bottle of Boones is about as alcoholic as a beer.

[Jadewolff]

Though I may not have handled things exactly that way, I do agree that her need to come clean with Arkans was one of those "Please feel sorry for me because I hurt myself." was inappropriate.

Maybe she's hoping you're one of those "hero" types.

[Edited on 3-4-2005 by Jadewolff]

[Warriorbird]

She weighed about oh 98 pounds.

[Skeeter]

I can't be your Superman

[Tsa`ah]

He has met her 4 times and I'm guessing none of those were dates?

You don't advertise failed suicide attempts to people that don't know you.

[Brattt8525]

I think that anyone who spouts off crap like that to someone they don't even know are useless wastes of skin and my time. Anyone who is honestly serious about killing themselves generally just do it, and people are shocked because it wasn't advertised.

[Edited on 3-4-2005 by Brattt8525]

[Revalos]

If you had let her do it Arkans, would you have looked over the body and said FUCKING PWNED!!!!!1!1!!!?

Seriously, if someone you don't even know well fricking shows you their scarred up arms, that is emo lameness at its best.

Now other scars...well they can get you the laydeys! "Oh yeah, I got these three running from the cops when I was hopping a fence (melanoma removal)" Not that I would have ever done that...

I would have yelled those exact words.

- Arkans

[Alfster]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/pottymouth30/6bd3fa27.jpg

I want this made as a t-shirt and give to her as a gift.

- Arkans

[Latrinsorm]

With a lil swastika on the back, like the Hallmark crown. Only a swastika.

[Divinity]

:wow: Chicks are crazy, but sheesh. What was the point? I mean I've spoken to a lot of people that are like this and people that do things like this are emotional vampires.

I still feel sorry for her though.

Why feel sorry? That's what I don't understand. Bitches just thrive on shit like that and SLICE SLICE SLICE. Psychos.. all of them.

- Arkans

I agree. If your gonna do it then do it. Save the shit for someone who cares

[Keller]

OMG.

I've had friends who've killed themselves and how can you be so insensitive. Dave, Arkans, and RANGER can talk when they've had a buddy with one too many facial piercings succeed in piercing their own skull.

blah blah blah



For serious though: :whocares: Life really sucks when all you have to do is sit in school 6 hours a day and jerk off to TRL before your parents get home to cook you dinner. At least that's what I thought in the eleventh grade.

[Kainen]

Being compassionate is nice.. but come on. She's practically a stranger and she's boo hooing all over him. It's not his job to help her. Besides ine the words of Stabbing Westard "I can't save you.. I can't even save myself."

[Asha]

It was a silly attempt at sucking for sympathy.
Still a call for help is still a call for help.
I hope someone does eventually listen to her before she feels the scars are not enough. She'll probably actually kill herself by accident one day.
Sad.

[Nieninque]

The girl was stupid.
On the other hand, her stupidity was equally matched by the first four posts in this thread

:shrug:

[Asha]

Agreed , completely.

[Slingblade]

Originally posted by Nieninque
The girl was stupid.
On the other hand, her stupidity was equally matched by the first four posts in this thread

:shrug:

The first four posts basically said she's stupid (though not in those words), which you agree with. That makes the "stupidity" of the first four posts equally matched by your own.

[Back]

Your sig is stupid.

[HarmNone]

Heh. Consider the source, Backlash. ;)

Oh, and Arkans....let us know if you ever have a sensitive moment. I'm sure that will give us a lot more to discuss. :lol:

[Killer Kitten]

Maybe she was just saying she's clumsy with tools and didn't want to scratch up your paint job.:?:

[Nakiro]

Next time get a pin, mark her veins, and write "Cut on the dotted lines" on her forearm.

[Sylph]

I agree with writing directions for her.

[OreoElf]

Maybe it was a cry for help... maybe it was a cry for attention. Was she joking and laughing at herself... or was the prospect of holding a razor disturbing enough to her that she had to find a way to not take it and try to laugh it off without freaking out...

You never can know what goes on in someone's mind. What she did was incredibly inapropriate, yes I agree with that entirely. Who hasn't said and done stupid things in their life especially when nervous. I am sure she made everyone there uncomfortable to say the least.

Not all goth people are all suicidal and want to die by the way. I got typed as a goth cause of the way I dressed (I like black and certain styles that some goths tend to wear/wore) and never really meant to be considered a goth.

Bah I'm rambling. Anyway what I mean to say is there's a difference in being compassionate, tactless and a total ass...

Do you feel like an ass?

[Drew]

Arkans, I wish you played a lovable halfling with an intense affection for bunny rabbits instead of the "evil sorcerer" you do now. I'm just beginning to think that there is almost no work involved, you just play yourself.



The bunny-loving halfling, on the other hand, would be fun to watch.

[Sylph]

Drew... It'd be a bunny-loving halfling with a love for playing Dodge the Meteor in populated places Im sure...

[Warriorbird]

That sounds like an awesome euphemism.

"Hey baby, wanna 'Dodge the Meteor'"?

[Jazuela]

There was this girl who used to work with me like that..she showed up one day wearing a tank top just so she could show off the bruises on her shoulders and neck, to brag about how her boyfriend beat her up.

She thought she was so cool because she was "playing the tough guy" who could take anything...

And the rest of us just stared at her for a moment..

She was fired from the job because she was really causing problems, bragging to the customers about her ability to take whatever her boyfriend dished out..really a sick puppy, ya know?

I felt sorry for her, that she was that twisted to not realize what was happening to her was wrong, but no way in hell was I gonna try and help her. The chick needed psychiatric help, not a friend.

[Divinity]

Originally posted by Drayal
It was a silly attempt at sucking for sympathy.
Still a call for help is still a call for help.
I hope someone does eventually listen to her before she feels the scars are not enough. She'll probably actually kill herself by accident one day.
Sad.

Yeah, that. That's why I feel sorry for her.

I don't know her, and I don't know her intentions. If she did say it like that and such, I wouldn't know whether to slap her with my hand or a razor. Thing is, she's got issues and that's why I feel bad for her.

[Divinity]

Also wanted to say that sometimes a friend can help someone on the way to get psychiatric help.

I probably would have stepped in and done just that. That's me though.

[Skeeter]

Originally posted by Jazuela
There was this girl who used to work with me like that..she showed up one day wearing a tank top just so she could show off the bruises on her shoulders and neck, to brag about how her boyfriend beat her up.

She thought she was so cool because she was "playing the tough guy" who could take anything...

And the rest of us just stared at her for a moment..

She was fired from the job because she was really causing problems, bragging to the customers about her ability to take whatever her boyfriend dished out..really a sick puppy, ya know?

I felt sorry for her, that she was that twisted to not realize what was happening to her was wrong, but no way in hell was I gonna try and help her. The chick needed psychiatric help, not a friend.


Now we know where Ben finds his women.

It definatly takes no effort. I am most definatley a fascist RL and I am most definately a Dark Elf, not only that, but I am a super nationalist from New Ta'Faendryl. Oh, yeah, I'm also part of a military unit that spread violence and fear.. Noooo effort.

I just don't see why I should feel sorry for a stranger. I've had my problems and I was normal enough to deal with them. She should just grow the fuck up, I'm sorry.

- Arkans

[Jadewolff]

There is a such a thing as having compassion for those that don't have the strength of will that you do. I think that's what everyone else is trying to get at.

I have enough compassion for my friends, loved ones and myself. I'm sorry if I'm just one person. Perhaps the ubermensch that propose this could pick up the slack.

- Arkans

[xtc]

The girl is a head case with severe problems. It is massively inappropriate for her to be "sharing" this you. That said it is massively inappropriate for her to be slashing at her wrists.

Yes I have sympathy for clinically depressed people who are suicidal. However these emotional vampire, drama queens can be trying. I am glad I am not her. Maybe one day she will end up killing herself by default. The girl needs help.

Arkans wouldn't be my first choice to go to if I was depressed.

[Jadewolff]

Having compassion does not necessarily equate to playing hero. Regardless of how inappropriate her plea for help was, you have no sympathy at all for how messed up she might be. It just makes you seem like a bit of a jerk when all you do is harp on how stupid she is instead of just feeling sorry for the girl.

Why on Earth should I feel sorry for idiots? I don't see anybody being sorry for Warclaidhm.

- Arkans

[Slingblade]

:yeahthat:

Awe, I'm honestly hurt by that, xtc :( Haha

- Arkans

[xtc]

Originally posted by Arkans
Awe, I'm honestly hurt by that, xtc :( Haha

- Arkans

Don't worry you're still Barney to the kids in your neighbourhood.

Teaching kids to say, "NO TO EMO!"

- Arkans

[Sylph]

Heh... I think everyone is too annoyed to feel sorry for Warclaidhm.

And I'm too annoyed by emos. By that reasoning, this excuses me and everyone else needs to admit they are wrong.

- Arkans

[DeV]

Originally posted by Arkans
My friend Alex quickly told me to be quiet. Apparantly I have no tolerance for that emo shit. Anyway, that's my story. Insensitive or the right thing, YOU decide!

- Arkans Insensitive, yes, but seriously I'd expect nothing different. The girl has obvious *mental* issues and hopefully she gets help for them instead of talking about them to complete strangers who probably care less. Dumb move.

On who's part?

- Arkans

[DeV]

Originally posted by Arkans
On who's part?

- Arkans On her part.

[Kyra]

And then she shows me her scarred up arms. I was like.. "WTF!?!" it was obviously cry for help bullshit so I told her exactly how I felt.


Out of curiosity, did she come out and say she had attempted suicide or not? SI was actually my first thought, but most people who do that don't go around flaunting it to strangers either :rolleyes:

K.