spell ranks distribution

[Kupak]

I tend to see:

77 Minor Ele
64 Minor Spirit
162 Sorc

Why though? Why is minor ele always 77 when 76 gets the last benefit to DS/TD? CS benefit ends at 75 ranks. And why 64 specifically for minor spirit?

[drauz]

I tend to see:

77 Minor Ele
64 Minor Spirit
162 Sorc

Why though? Why is minor ele always 77 when 76 gets the last benefit to DS/TD? CS benefit ends at 75 ranks. And why 64 specifically for minor spirit?

I would guess that is the next CS gain from the "off" circle.

[neimanz1]

I tend to see:

77 Minor Ele
64 Minor Spirit
162 Sorc

Why though? Why is minor ele always 77 when 76 gets the last benefit to DS/TD? CS benefit ends at 75 ranks. And why 64 specifically for minor spirit?

you need to stop questioning and just accept it, you will be happier in the end. but with this build i think you get +2td and lose like -2ds while still getting max cs. but the information pretty dated though

[Murrandii]

Wiz = 77 rank in 400 circle too to get 1 extra CS

You want the extra CS? that's the price

[Maerit]

It's always 162 sorc (max CS). A lot of people have slight variations on the MnE and MnS for sorcerer. I think my sorcerer is at 73 MnE and 68 MnS - still have max CS for sorcerer spells. I'm not entirely sure what I traded since I think the DS gains from 120 and 430 are pretty equal?

[Roiken]

i'm at 170 76 57.... i'm sure i have reasons... I dont remember them though.

[Kupak]

Bahhhhh... I want to know the gritty details of the maths. The 77 vs 76 ele thing I can test easily enough to see if it changes my CS. What's up with spirit being at 64? or 57? or 68?

[drauz]

It's always 162 sorc (max CS). A lot of people have slight variations on the MnE and MnS for sorcerer. I think my sorcerer is at 73 MnE and 68 MnS - still have max CS for sorcerer spells. I'm not entirely sure what I traded since I think the DS gains from 120 and 430 are pretty equal?

I believe you gain more DS from spirit circle than elemental. 102 and 120 vs 430.

[Dantx]

It's always 162 sorc (max CS). A lot of people have slight variations on the MnE and MnS for sorcerer. I think my sorcerer is at 73 MnE and 68 MnS - still have max CS for sorcerer spells. I'm not entirely sure what I traded since I think the DS gains from 120 and 430 are pretty equal?

This is the optimal build, IMO


I believe you gain more DS from spirit circle than elemental. 102 and 120 vs 430.

This is the reason

Unless you really care about Bolt AS, then you can make a case for:


77 Minor Ele
64 Minor Spirit
162 Sorc

But I would rather take the permanent DS gain over +2 bolt AS.

I think the difference is +2 DS.

[Delarock]

What would the difference be with 163 sorc 73 Mne and 67 MnS?

My understanding is the last rank is a "free" placement. Is the 1 sorcerer rank negligible in terms of gaining necro/735? Should I just go 162/73/68?

[Methais]

I tend to see:

77 Minor Ele
64 Minor Spirit
162 Sorc

Why though? Why is minor ele always 77 when 76 gets the last benefit to DS/TD? CS benefit ends at 75 ranks. And why 64 specifically for minor spirit?

The answer is very simple...
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[Dantx]

What would the difference be with 163 sorc 73 Mne and 67 MnS?

My understanding is the last rank is a "free" placement. Is the 1 sorcerer rank negligible in terms of gaining necro/735? Should I just go 162/73/68?

You gain +1 in ensorcelling difficulty, but lose +2 DS since MnS only gives +2 DS per even rank and you're now ending on an odd rank.

Considering 1x DB items sell for millions and +1 ensorcelling difficulty is pretty meaningless, I think 68 MnS is the better choice.