Official: Earthen Fury Update (discord)

[Maerit]

From the mechanics channel in discord.


KonaconToday at 1:53 PM
Hi everybody!

In an effort to make critters with 917 a little more palatable to hunt, we've reduced the critical damage of the first cycle of 917 when cast against players. The hope is that this should make the spell a little easier to work with.

We'll be watching how this affects 917 when cast against players closely, and may continue to work with the spell if deemed necessary.

Thanks, and let me know what you think! (If you have the guts to go check it out)

Early April Fool's to get a bunch of people killed via Earthen Fury?

[Methais]

Early April Fool's to get a bunch of people killed via Earthen Fury?

Now that you mention it, I hope so.

[Taernath]

From the mechanics channel in discord.



Early April Fool's to get a bunch of people killed via Earthen Fury?

Man I don't even know anymore. Maybe he means 'first damage cycle when critters cast against players'. That would at least make some sense since critter-cast 917 royally fucks you up.

[Donquix]

Man I don't even know anymore. Maybe he means 'first damage cycle when critters cast against players'. That would at least make some sense since critter-cast 917 royally fucks you up.

I think that's what he means as that is exactly what they said yes.

[Methais]

Man I don't even know anymore. Maybe he means 'first damage cycle when critters cast against players'. That would at least make some sense since critter-cast 917 royally fucks you up.

The way I read it was the first hit of the first cycle (no idea if critters can get the extra hit from fire lore like players) doesn't hit as hard as it used to, but everything after that is unchanged.

[Maerit]

Basically, (assuming real, testing to be performed by masochists at a later time), less getting stunned for 8-10 rounds when you fail to avoid the 1st earthen fury cycle, which ultimately leads to your demise.

Also, this is all forms of Earthen Fury vs players. CvC included. Described as "player resistance" to 1st round of earthen fury.

Indirect nerf to 620 and resistance!

[Taernath]

I think that's what he means as that is exactly what they said yes.

Yeah I missed the 'make critters more palatable to hunt' part.


The way I read it was the first hit of the first cycle (no idea if critters can get the extra hit from fire lore like players) doesn't hit as hard as it used to, but everything after that is unchanged.

Aren't critters maxed in every relevant lore?

[Wrathbringer]

I've avoided hunting anything that uses Earthen fury since its implementation due to the fact that it's severely retarded. Sounds like now it's just retarded. Still not interested.

[Methais]

Yeah I missed the 'make critters more palatable to hunt' part.



Aren't critters maxed in every relevant lore?

Critters are 0.5x in lores I think.

[drumpel]

Critters are 0.5x in lores I think.

Wyrom had a post some time back about how they can set it to what they want, but most creatures are generally around .25x to 5x in lores. Fair to say, expect the creatures you go against to be at least .5x in lores.

[adred]

I've avoided hunting anything that uses Earthen fury since its implementation due to the fact that I'm severely retarded. Sounds like now it's just me that is retarded. Still not interested.

Sounds about right.

[Astray]

This sounds like it won't last the moment people start to actively farm these creatures.

[Merzbow]

Nice, shit was OPness for way too long.

[Roiken]

more gay... ewave, 703, fient, plenty of ways to stop creatures from casting.. there is not enough ways to stop the vagina's from bleeding though.

[Roiken]

Wraithbringer licks my taint.. fuck off bitch.

[Fallen]

Someone please post logs if/when they get the chance.

[Wrathbringer]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaah I got neg repped and it makes me soooooooooooooo mad waaaaaaaaaaaaah

:lol:

[Roiken]

get a life man

[Gelston]

more gay... ewave, 703, fient, plenty of ways to stop creatures from casting.. there is not enough ways to stop the vagina's from bleeding though.

Yeah, most professions cant reliably stop that shit at level 20 when Arch Wights are fucking them up or even at level 17 with wood wights. 3x pf warrior still getting fucked in the first round of them, worse for pures.

[Maerit]

more gay... ewave, 703, fient, plenty of ways to stop creatures from casting.. there is not enough ways to stop the vagina's from bleeding though.

True! Unless it's a skayl... Only 703 works on them.

[Archigeek]

Yeah, most professions cant reliably stop that shit at level 20 when Arch Wights are fucking them up or even at level 17 with wood wights. 3x pf warrior still getting fucked in the first round of them, worse for pures.

A well trained warrior doesn't have too much trouble with it. I can't speak for low level ones, though arch wights always did fuck people up.

[Donquix]

A well trained warrior doesn't have too much trouble with it. I can't speak for low level ones, though arch wights always did fuck people up.

I was in fire mages not that long ago, on a very run of the mill warrior build, with some SWCP armor, and GoS padding. If they got a cast off, the hunt was pretty much over half of the time. Obviously I avoided berserking / mstriking so they couldn't walk in on me, feinted them, etc. etc. But it was certainly way, way, way more punishing than anything else around that level. I was going to get some leather greaves ranger resisted to help but it can still trigger that impact crit and circumvent that and just ended up moving on (for other reasons) so I didn't have to worry about it. And that's just like, their normal casts had +60 roll differential or something, not even accounting for the ridiculousness of getting openrolled. And i swear to god there is some code that gives feint like -50 to the d100 if you're feinting a target that just arrived.

[Fortybox]

https://img.memecdn.com/lol-the-floor-is-lava_fb_2581793.jpg

[Stumplicker]

Part of me strongly suspects that this is a change that Mario's been holding in his pocket to release directly after he's ruined his credibility and gotten a lot of bad press.

[Methais]

Nice, shit was OPness for way too long.

https://i.imgflip.com/2x96g6.jpg
https://media1.tenor.com/images/761cb20dde494652e469b7e569655621/tenor.gif?itemid=5550772

[Dantx]

I've hunted lots of 917 targets since it became earthened fury. I doubt this change will make much difference.

What happens most of the time is that you get wounded in the leg or stunned / knocked down from the first or 2nd cycle.

Then the next damage cycle comes and gets a huge bonus and continues to wreck you,

The problem is, that the 2nd cycle comes so fast after the first one, that a lot of PCs will still be in RT - or not react fast enough, or even if you get stunned for 1 round or knocked over, you're gonna get wrecked still from the remaining cycles like normal.

The only feasible way I ever found to do well there was to disable, and if that fails, have a script running in the background to run you away as soon as it detects a cast on you so that you don't eat 3 cycles before you realize what is going on.

[Wrathbringer]

A well trained warrior doesn't have too much trouble with it. I can't speak for low level ones, though arch wights always did fuck people up.

Wrong.

[Stumplicker]

Wrong.

I can see warriors being somewhat okay, but the plate really hurts them eventually, not to mention occasional long RTs to potentially make you take multiple rounds to get out. Monks on the other hand... You almost always get at least a round or two to walk away before one hits you. And post cap you could ignore it if it weren't for the over 100 rolls that happen occasionally. The over 100 rolls still make it total BS though. Every hunt is RNG.

[audioserf]

I have a level 40 monk who hasn't ever been hit by this spell once. Halfling racial bonuses plus robes and 3x dodge/2x CM/2x PF is a hell of a drug.

[Methais]

Part of me strongly suspects that this is a change that Mario's been holding in his pocket to release directly after he's ruined his credibility and gotten a lot of bad press.

https://i.imgur.com/mwVPnEI.gif?noredirect

[Stumplicker]

https://i.imgur.com/mwVPnEI.gif?noredirect

Shame on you for making me turn my images on just to see a gif of Will Sasso failing to stick his head all the way into a bag of popcorn.

[Fortybox]

I have a level 40 monk who hasn't ever been hit by this spell once. Halfling racial bonuses plus robes and 3x dodge/2x CM/2x PF is a hell of a drug.

You haven’t hunted in the area long enough then. The stupidity of this spell is that it is open ended. No matter your training there is always a chance to get wrecked.

[wetsand]

You haven’t hunted in the area long enough then. The stupidity of this spell is that it is open ended. No matter your training there is always a chance to get wrecked.

My halfling monk is 3x dodge/2x CM/2.5x PF. Hell he even has agl bonus of 50 but all it takes is a lolz open roll and its all over. I've successfully dodged the first/second cycle multiple times and get wrecked by a stupid 150 or 250 roll on the third cycle.

[Maerit]

The wizard I have hunting some very nasty level 80+ earthen fury targets is able to survive, but he's a burghal gnome w/ +39 CER (520, Sigil of Major Protection and HCP armor) to mitigate the 1st explosion. Leaving the room as soon as the messaging shows up to avoid impending doom is the best strategy if you don't get stunned on the 1st damage cycle.

[Gelston]

The wizard I have hunting some very nasty level 80+ earthen fury targets is able to survive, but he's a burghal gnome w/ +39 CER (520, Sigil of Major Protection and HCP armor) to mitigate the 1st explosion. Leaving the room as soon as the messaging shows up to avoid impending doom is the best strategy if you don't get stunned on the 1st damage cycle.

The first damage cycle usually stuns and floors any pure I have, if not outright killing them my squares can usually make it out, but my hunt is still usually fucked from injuries.

[Fortybox]

There is always a chance the spell will kill you. That's what is dumb about it - there is nothing anyone can do. The GMs basically made a "Got ya!" spell.

[Merzbow]

There is always a chance the spell will kill you. That's what is dumb about it - there is nothing anyone can do. The GMs basically made a "Got ya!" spell.

To be fair, without "got y'all" mechanics, a significant percentage of players would never be able to die, even theoretically, because of all the uber 10x, padded, and otherwise OP shit they now have.

[IorakeWarhammer]

Wraithbringer licks my taint.. fuck off bitch.

/messageboard

Truer words have never been spoken! Keep that anal expulsive rep coming!

[Methais]

I don’t even notice 99% of the 917s that Fire elementals cast at me in the Confluence. I must be super l33t.

[gilchristr]

If you have the training to avoid this spell most of the time, its effective to get resists on your armor to cover the times you get screwed with an open roll. I have found the following combo gives resist on every hit:
- 30% impact resist on main armor;
- 95% ranger fire resist on main armor;
- warrior puncture resist on main armor; and
- 47% ranger cold resist on enhancive leg greaves, arm greaves, and greathelm.

It all stacks you will get the resist messaging on all hits to any location (except cold flares to the torso).

[Fortybox]

If you have the training to avoid this spell most of the time, its effective to get resists on your armor to cover the times you get screwed with an open roll. I have found the following combo gives resist on every hit:
- 30% impact resist on main armor;
- 95% ranger fire resist on main armor;
- warrior puncture resist on main armor; and
- 47% ranger cold resist on enhancive leg greaves, arm greaves, and greathelm.

It all stacks you will get the resist messaging on all hits to any location (except cold flares to the torso).
https://www.awesomew.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/guy-wraps-himself-in-a-giant-bubble-wrap-suit-and-extremely-test-it.jpg

[Methais]

Orrrr get 100% resistance by not hunting them at all.

cLoSe Ur Gs AcCoUnT aNd HaVe 1o0% iMmUnItY aGaInSt EvErYtHiNg r0x0r OMG!!!!!!!!

https://arikia.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/133tbreakfast.jpg?w=625