The Bible Code

[The Cat In The Hat]

I was watching the History channel the other day and there was a show on about The Bible Code. I had never heard about this but aparently some "experts" are saying that world events are encoded in the bible and it's sort of like a future telling device. Aparently the Sept. 11th attacks, Clinton's near impeachment and a ton of other things have been found in this code. Anyone else see this or read about it? Was just wondering what others might think.

http://www.biblecodedigest.com/page.php/24

[Warriorbird]

It's sort've like what Ross Perot said about voodoo economics.

[4a6c1]

Infinate possibilities. Anythings possible.

Except bouncing a football lengthwise. That just dosnt work.

[crazymage]

Who cares, but constantine kicked ass

[Back]

I dunno. I mean, there is the I-Ching philosophy that dates back 1000 years BC. Basically, its reading the microverse within the macroverse. A Bible code is similar in that probably any book, using the same methods employed to divine the Bible, would give some kind of message.

But all that is nothing compared to the BLACK BOX (http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=126649).

[Hulkein]

That article was awesome, Backlash.

[Latrinsorm]

a) Constantine did, in fact, rule.

b) The one time I've ever agreed with Penn and Teller about anything: if these people really are predicting these awful events, where the hell were they on September 10th? This doesn't really apply to the Black Box or similar phenomenon, because "something's going to happen in 4 hours" isn't exactly the best warning ever.

[The Cat In The Hat]

I hacn't seen Constantine yet, I take it it's about a code?

They did say they found some things in Moby Dick :lol:

[Parkbandit]

Hindsite is always 20/20.. and that is what the so called "Bible Code" is doing. Much like the interpretations of Nostradamus.

[Alfster]

I watched that show and found it interesting, at least the way that they explained how they were attempting to unlock this code (I don't believe it exists)

I think in order for me to believe there was a code within the bible, I would then have to believe in a god.

[Warriorbird]

I'd believe a code in the Bible before I'd believe in "God." It wouldn't be anything holy, however, considering the number of translations of the damn thing.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by The Cat In The Hat
I hacn't seen Constantine yet, I take it it's about a code?No. It is about religious(esque) stuff.
Originally posted by Warriorbird
It wouldn't be anything holy, however, considering the number of translations of the damn thing. I believe the point of the skip codes is that they are applied to the original, unchanged Hebrew, not the massively translated New Testament. Also, I don't know how much sense it makes to refer to the Bible as a "damn thing". :devil::saint:

[Caiylania]

Enjoy finding your own Bible codes.
Bible code search software available in our on line store.

That says it all. :D

[peam]

Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.

[xtc]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
i]Originally posted by Warriorbird
It wouldn't be anything holy, however, considering the number of translations of the damn thing. I believe the point of the skip codes is that they are applied to the original, unchanged Hebrew [/quote]

I believe the Bible (New Testament) was orginally written in Aramaic.

[Edited on 3-3-2005 by xtc]

[Enceladus]

Most of the Old Testament was in ancient Hebrew, though I'm not sure if that was the Aramaic or some other language at the time.

I think the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and John would have been in Aramaic. Luke was in Greek. He wrote the book from eyewitness accounts from the other disciples. His purpose in writing the book was for the people that were outside of Judea that the apostles were reaching after the death of Jesus.

Paul was both Jewish and a Roman citizen (his parents raised enough money to purchase Roman citizenship, thus ensuring their children would be born citizens), and was originally part of the Jewish Sanhedrin. He was a very educated man, and most of his letters (books) were written in both Aramaic and Greek, I think.

Another thing to note is that by the time Jesus lived, most people in Jerusalem and the rest of Judea knew both Aramaic and Greek, due to Roman influence.

[Enceladus]

Another thing too is that portions of the Pentateuch (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy) were written in the old Hebrew language that lacked some of the letters we have now, namely vowels. You could combine certain letters to get the vowel sound, but the actual letter didn't exist. An example is Yaweh, which was written as YHWH. If spoken, it had the sound, but not if it was written.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by The Cat In The Hat
I was watching the History channel the other day and there was a show on about The Bible Code. I had never heard about this but aparently some "experts" are saying that world events are encoded in the bible and it's sort of like a future telling device. Aparently the Sept. 11th attacks, Clinton's near impeachment and a ton of other things have been found in this code. Anyone else see this or read about it? Was just wondering what others might think.

http://www.biblecodedigest.com/page.php/24

Code received... loud and clear.

:smug:

[The Cat In The Hat]

:lol:

Oh baby you know it's true...

[xtc]

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by The Cat In The Hat
I was watching the History channel the other day and there was a show on about The Bible Code. I had never heard about this but aparently some "experts" are saying that world events are encoded in the bible and it's sort of like a future telling device. Aparently the Sept. 11th attacks, Clinton's near impeachment and a ton of other things have been found in this code. Anyone else see this or read about it? Was just wondering what others might think.

http://www.biblecodedigest.com/page.php/24

Code received... loud and clear.

:smug:

lol, great one PB

[Keller]

Originally posted by xtc

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
i]Originally posted by Warriorbird
It wouldn't be anything holy, however, considering the number of translations of the damn thing. I believe the point of the skip codes is that they are applied to the original, unchanged Hebrew

I believe the Bible (New Testament) was orginally written in Aramaic.

[Edited on 3-3-2005 by xtc] [/quote]

It was actually written in the Koine dialect of Greek.

[Keller]

Originally posted by Enceladus
An example is Yaweh, which was written as YHWH. If spoken, it had the sound, but not if it was written.

I always learned that writting the name of God without vowels was to avoid making an idol of the written word.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Enceladus
Most of the Old Testament was in ancient Hebrew, though I'm not sure if that was the Aramaic or some other language at the time.

Hebrew, similar to the Moabite dialect.


Another thing to note is that by the time Jesus lived, most people in Jerusalem and the rest of Judea knew both Aramaic and Greek, due to Roman influence.

Aramaic was more of a universal language that everyone could understand. Think of it as the success that Esperanto (sp) never was.


Originally posted by Enceladus
Another thing too is that portions of the Pentateuch (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy)

:( Torah.


were written in the old Hebrew language that lacked some of the letters we have now, namely vowels. You could combine certain letters to get the vowel sound, but the actual letter didn't exist. An example is Yaweh, which was written as YHWH. If spoken, it had the sound, but not if it was written.

Biblical Hebrew, and in fact nearly all Hebrew dialects during that era, lacked vowel pointers.


Originally posted by Keller
I always learned that writting the name of God without vowels was to avoid making an idol of the written word.

More along the lines of making sure the sanctity of the name is preserved. The name is sacrosanct.

Tradition holds that scrolls or anything sporting a name of god (aside from stone and metal) is to be burned when it's time has passed, instead of soiled in a dump, discarded or buried.

[Warriorbird]

Considering that you and other Christians use "some" stuff from Leviticus even though you aren't Cohenim, Latrin, I won't get into all the trouble with the notion of building a "code" out of the "original Bible". Suffice it to say, does anyone even know the order it'd supposably be in?

:snickers:

In all the multiple "original languages"

I'll refer to it as a damned thing if I damn well want to.

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
I'd believe a code in the Bible before I'd believe in "God." It wouldn't be anything holy, however, considering the number of translations of the damn thing.

Uh, they said they examine the non-translated versions of it.

[Warriorbird]

The point is, their code would have to be written in multiple languages at different times...

[Hulkein]

Anything is possible through God!

[Warriorbird]

If he can raise the dead and light bushes on fire and turn people into salt.... doesn't it seem a little oblique and lame? Especially post Jesus?

[The Cat In The Hat]

Someone on that show actually suggested aliens from the future wrote the code into it and time traveled it back to our past :lol:

[Warriorbird]

Aliens for Jesus.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
Considering that you and other Christians use "some" stuff from Leviticus even though you aren't Cohenim, LatrinI do not now use nor have I ever used "stuff" from Leviticus. :)

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
If he can raise the dead and light bushes on fire and turn people into salt.... doesn't it seem a little oblique and lame? Especially post Jesus?

I was kind of joking around with the '...possible with God!'

I'm not sold on this code, though this is all I've heard of it, and it was basically an infomercial... I'd like to read a real article on it.

[Warriorbird]

Oh? Favor gay marriage then, Latrin?

[xtc]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
If he can raise the dead and light bushes on fire and turn people into salt.... doesn't it seem a little oblique and lame? Especially post Jesus?

He has mellowed with age. A softer gentler God.

[xtc]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
Aliens for Jesus.

Do illegal immigrants have freedom of religion?

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
Oh? Favor gay marriage then, Latrin? Favor in the sense of "it's really not worth arguing over, the government has better things to do, language already sucks pretty bad anyway". In Church, no, because Jesus specifically defined marriage, and it doesn't include gays.

[Warriorbird]

Eh. So much hate and nonsense is based in Leviticus and the Old Testament in general. More religiously conservative conservatives might likely give some different answers.

[Edited on 3-4-2005 by Warriorbird]

[Xcalibur]

Human being can interprate anything from anything.

If you write down the alphabet 10 times, you'll see what's in your future by removing X numbers of letter multiplied by Y number of time you thought about your greatest fear

And stuff like that.